For people don't know, in traditional Vietnamese singing, we use 5 nature elements to discribe how the singing sound like: Water (agile,, smooth, soft), Fire (husky, raspy, dark), Plant (easy to ears, soft, having some thickness), Earth (thick, a lot of weigh, loud) an Metal (thin, light, bright)
I'm so sorry that it does not have any video to explain but it also says that everybody does have 5 elements in their voice, it is more or less some thing. For example, Vocal Trinity is one the most balance elenmet in their voice. Whitney has most of her voice belong to Earth (weigh), next is Fire (power,) , Plant (warm), Metal (so much bright at het uper belt) and water (agile). Mariah with most water (agile), Plant (warm), Metal (bright), earth (weigh) and fire (power). Celines is Plant (warm), water (agile), earth (weigh) , Metal (bright), and fire (husky, raps, power)
Well vocal enthusiasts have been describing voices this way for a long time in order to cast operatic singers and i think there’s something to it . Its a lot more interesting than just saying soprano or mezzo
This is 100% true, especially for Opera and bel canto music. Directors want to make sure the cast has the right voices in technique and timbre in order to handle each character they portraying.
Now I get it why when Red Velvet makes a comeback whether Red or Velvet side, Wendy mostly gets to shine in Red concepts because of her warm voice then Seulgi shines in their Velvet concepts because hers is more cooler. Thanks for this analysis.
I used to think that Wendy's and Seulgi's voices are almost impossible to differentiate and now I cringe so much at myself If you listen to the first verse of "Beg For Me", you'll notice the difference in their temperatures and brightness
Hi, I have no idea that the concepts were divided like that...could you give me an example of reds and velvet songs? or is there a place where I could find more info? that´s interesting
Wendy has more depth than seulgi tho. I think both do sultry styles better but wendy is the only one that belts so she might appear "brighter". Joy and Yeri sing more in Red concepts.
Aurora I think is the **perfect** example of cool bright. Her voice is like an icy wind, you should definitely check her out! (She was the wooohooo's in into the unknown)
Warm Neutral is my absolute favorite. Kelly / Whitney / Morisette and Perrie just all have this sweet warm voice that feels like it can hit a switch & become dark powerful and commanding. It translates so usefully to live singing because it feels like they can sing anything.
@@kng001 That's sort of what "neutral" means though lol. Whitney (like Morisette / Kelly Clarkson / Perrie) were warm neutral hence that extreme versatility, they can sound either dark or bright on command. But cold? Never imo. If you hear Whitney even so much as speak she clearly has a naturally warm, cozy friendly tone that I don't think anyone would ever describe as cold.
It still fascinated me how beyonce can sing in her darkness till it makes you think that she went to mezzo but after I listen to plastic of the sofa and Virgo groove I lost it like her voice became so light like it reminded me of her dangerously in love Era
Everyone described as "cool" I noticed had strong nasal resonance, and didn't tend to "smile" to "brighten" up their voice the way I was told to do in voice lessons to cut through the darkness! Also we can't overstate the contribution of mixing! I once heard a studio recording of my voice that "shaved off the dark" around my voice and made me sound warm bright, when I know I'm warm dark!
There are many technical ways of modifying the tone of your voice, however everyone has a place in their voice, which is the most neutral and is the closest to their true tone. For example, I can sing with a darker and cooler tone to my voice by lowering my larynx and different vowel shaping, even though my voice is naturally on the warm neutral/warm bright side.
It's weird to think that there are singers in the same archetype that I both love and dislike, but as you said, that isn't the only thing to a singers voice. Amazing video as always I love it so much!
I think Taylor Swift would be perfect representation for Neutral category, her voice can sounds pretty warm but also quite cool at times and her tone isn't that bright or dark either, to me she sounds like she's right in the middle. That's probably why is her voice so versatile for so many styles and genres. This is probably why i love her voice so much.
If selection of people in the video is any indication, I think it was meant to be actual vocalists only although I'm pretty sure I heard Olivia Rodrigo snuck in there but she's like Taylor 2.0 so I guess he dumped the out dated model
would be cool to see a comparison of each archetype singing the same song while changing only one variable. for ex comparing cool bright, cool neutral and cool dark singing the same song. just to really see the difference
This feels like a sequel to the "The Problem With Unique Voices In Pop" video; great way of describing vocalists. It adds more individuality to classifying than voices than solely calling one a Light Lyric Soprano because some in the same fach and somewhat the same level of vocal development sound different eg. Ariana Grande & Demi Lovato, but these colors provide some reasons.
@@aintnootherfan You don't miss 🎯 Have you heard about Rolling Stone calling Harry Styles "The New King of Pop" & the backlash that ensued? Someone even posted a video comparing Harry Styles singing at 16 vs Michael Jackson singing at 10.
@@GarageStudio7 "Oh wow" It reminds of those dark times when Dua Lipa was called the new Madonna lol But I didn't know about this one! And the comparison must have been... YIKES
@@aintnootherfan "Those dark times" 😂😂 Oh wow, love that description 😅 I'm wondering if they're doing this just to get clicks because it doesn't add up. At least choose people who are somewhat close in renown, success, impact, talent etc.
Morissette is very versatile..She can go from warmth bright dark or neutral timbre of her voice..Thank u for recognizing Morissette...The Phenominal diva!!!
I really appreciate that you bring up korean vocalists for comparison too. personally, singing in Korean is a lot easier since they are a phonetic language to begin with. not sure how people will take that, but I hope you can touch on this when you can, like sprinkle such information where you can. appreciate you!!
Donna Summer is the Queen Of Vocal Colors because she sang various genres and changed up her voice to fit the character of the songs she sang. For example, compare her vocal approaches on Love To Love You Baby, Hot Stuff, Dinner With Gershwin, Stop Me, Sometimes Like Butterflies, etc.
My goodness, I'm honored yet again! Your knowledge and insight on vocal technique has actually helped so much! Your essays are immaculate (not that I expect anything less) Warm neutral is definitely my favorite, Perrie Edwards is one of my favorite vocalists of all time. And of course the great Whitney Houston!
Very nice video bestie. I love how both my favorite RUclipsrs are somewhat supporting each other's channels like this hehe. And yeah, as someone who is bilingual, I tend to speak English in a higher voice register + sounding a bit feminine in comparison to when I speak in my native language where I talk in my more neutral and somewhat masculine voice. I guess that's just how our minds work when it comes to languages lmaooo
I genuinely wish this was an official categorization system because I feel that it makes so much sense. I watch this video over and over because enjoy it so much. 🥰
omg thanks for the video again! You made me realize that all my faves are all in cool tone: Miley, Seulgi, Karina, and Jennie. But I do love Wendy's warm tone that's why 'Written in the stars ft. John Legend' was such a heartwarming song🥺
I love the term "Cool Neutral", I usually use the term "Silver" to capture bright voices that have that dark husk Jojo, Tori Kelly, &Michelle Williams.
Very interesting. I'm a little confused, but from what i've noticed, i think the warm voices have an asmr'ish whisper layer behind their main vocals, and neutrals can also have that whisper layer sometimes but not always. The cool ones are less asmr'ish to me, if that makes sense
Imo Beyoncé is pure warm to me , her voice is like DEEP RICH HONEY . The coldest one for me could have been miss Lorde cause if I think about her the first thing that comes to mind is something very dreamy yet very dry . I also think Mariah is really difficult to put in a category and also her fellow diva Whitney
Neutral Darks are absolutely my favourites; they have this sense of mystery to their voices, but also that very grounded maturity. They also sound good as rappers eg when Beyoncé rap-sings.
Miley gives me warm dark. I lowkey feel a blankie of warm air on my skin in my mind when i hear her Sohyang gives me cool bright everyday. Her performances of Wild flower, and Bridge over trouble water gave that to me.
15:09 Yess can we please explore them? I'm very interested in textures in the voice. This was such a fun video because sometimes I do feel some voices are 'warm' while others are 'cool'. I totally thought Beyonce would be warm dark xD. And Tori Kelly and Mariah Carey definitely fit the warm bright category. Oh no, I really loved this kind of video, hope you'll be making more! And just a question, as someone matures, can their voice go from bright to dark?
ahhh this can also explain why certain covers just sound so much better than others. i guess there's probably a better chance of if one chooses to cover a song of someone with the similar archetype. using this, i also agree with you that ailee is probably a very neutral tone!
ooo this is interesting! I love this concept. I feel like Toni Braxton is a warm dark voice. Her voice has alot of warmth to it. Sade has a cool warm tone to her voice. Jennifer Hudson voice is warm neutral cause sometimes she has alot of depth and weight to her voice but she can also brighten it up as well. Mariah Carey voice is smooth but I think its neutral cause her voice can be bright as well as warm or cool. Christina Aguilera tone is cool dark to me. Wonderful topic I love this. First person that came to mind was Bebe Winans in the gospel realm with a warm voice. Also Luther Vandross and Donny Hathaway.
This was such a beautiful video, I would think Taylor Swift might be a straight neutral. Mariah Carey would fit in a majority of these categories when looking at different eras
Warm Neutral are the most beautiful tones/colors/textures, you definitely can't imitate them, and their version will always be superior to any other cover. My opinion.
What I like most about your channel is how you describe in words the voices of kpop singers. I hope to one day hear a description of STAYC, I like your opinions.
Warm/Neutral, Warm/Dark and Warm Bright are my favorites. I think that Lisa Fischer has a Warm/Dark or Warm/Neutral voice. It's gorgeous! I really liked this video!
ur videos have rlly helped discover my own voice and evaluate what assets I have as a singer so i rlly appreciate ur channel :)) literally get so excited every time u post!
Irene voice in Cool Bright catergory? Cool,that's explain why I love her and Wendy's voice so much. Both are bright~ And since there's John Legend clip, I wanna put it here: Wendy x John Legend "Written in the stars" Wendy x Ricky Martin "Vente pa ca" RV x Ellie Goulding "Close to me"
My favourite women vocalist and voice in k-pop are: 1) Ella in Pixy she has similar voice as Ariana Grande, can do bright angelic high note or powerful high note, she can sing with her chest with her low voice, she can rap, her facial expression is amazing, 2) Yeongjung from WJSN, can do very high note, 3) Ningning of Aespa
Wonderful topic and wonderful video! Question for you: do you think a singer's quality (brightness, darkness...) can change depending on the register in which they're singing?
Im not him, but I think that's very possible. There are singers with dark mid and lows and bright high notes/head voices. Same with cool - warm and other qualities.
Depending how you sing, you can definitely change qualities. For example, I’m a bass and I mostly sing with a rounder and open mouth for the low notes. But when I do sing higher keys or just pop songs, I switch to my higher register which thins and sounds twangy. In other words, my vocal quality is considered cool bright but when I change it, I’m a warm bright.
It does change. I'm a guy and my voice sounds naturally somewhat husky, raspy and really warm. But usually my voice seems to be much lighter than it naturally is, because I mainly mix my registers instead of belting, and tbh I struggle with poor chest voice development xD
I think changing vocal color is easier for neutral tones. For example Beyonce was a Cool/Neutral but her upper belts sound very bright. Whitney and Kelly were Warm Neutral but their upper belts are known for being dark, meaty and piercing. A dark or bright voice tends to keep its tone but neutral toned voices tend to have more versatility in changing their tone while maintaining the same quality of sound.
There are many technical ways of modifying the tone of your voice, however everyone has a place in their voice, which is the most neutral and is the closest to their true tone. For example, I can sing with a darker and cooler tone to my voice even though my voice is naturally on the warm neutral/warm bright side.
I love this video!! Thanks for explaining Irene's tone of voice, I love it 💝 Red Velvet is an excellent group because of how their different tones complement each other 💝💛💙💚💜
Bright voices usually uses head/falsetto. Dark uses chest a lot of time. Gaga is insane when it comes to her chest and you can feel it's gravity but has an unsupported head sometimes. Katy is the opposite. She doesn't have much chest and uses brighter tones most often
I agree that Perries very versatile cause she can manipulate her vibrato to be a bit faster for a more upbeat song or slow it down in a sense for a ballad and same w Whitney she can be dark at times in a sense, but was very versatile in the Sense that she could switch up and sing and genre And I agree mariah has that warm and bright colour she showed it a lot during butterfly era and music box era imo And the neutral bright i love how u chose Ariana grande and Justin bieber bc they’re both singers who represent that kind of colour Yk
Mariah done had just about every tone on here 😭 because a album like glitter or music box are way brighter then debut era same with Beyoncé her was was always darker but more bright earlier on
What category would you put: Annie Lennox. Alison Moyet. Lisa Stansfield. George Michael. Rick Astley. Phil Collins. Enya. Amy Winehouse. Luther Vandross. Freddie Mercury.
It's definitely possible for some singers voices to go through several categories if they sing through hormonal changes from their youth over a span of decades like my girl Whitney! She was girly bright in the 80s... then we got a smooth but darker tone on Bodyguard (being pregnant her voice dropped an octave)... which was nice but my personal fav was her full rich mature sound (The Preachers Wife mid late 90s/early 2000)! Whitney trademark at the height of her career. ❤️ P.s. While Aretha is Queen of soul, her voice also changed. Dionne Warwick too.
You should do a version for R&B 90s style (i..e. Toni, Whitney, Deborah, Tamia, Kelli Price )!! 👏🏼 🙌🏽 And stop talking about your voice. You sound fine But if you want more bass, just drop your jaw and project from the back of your throat or bee bop like old school rappers (pulsing from the base side of your throat/ singers vein)😆
LOVED THIS 🤍 Also, under which archetype would you put these singers: 1. Demi Lovato (I'm thinking Neutral, like Ailee and Jade, because her voice isn't always too bright but isn't that dark either; she is also a very versatile singer and has hints of warmth and a more cool, sexy quality to her voice) 2. Leigh-Anne Pinnock (from Little Mix; would probably put Leigh in Warm Bright or Neutral Bright but I'm honestly not very sure) 3. Taylor Swift (definitely Neutral Bright) 4. Celine Dion (probably Warm Neutral but I can't be too sure) 5. Zayn Malik (I'm thinking Warm Neutral since Zayn's voice is quite dark for a tenor but isn't dark or low enough for him to be a baritone; his voice does carry quite a bit of warmth but also a piercing quality, especially when he uses his falsetto) 6. Harry Styles (I suppose he would come under Neutral or Warm Neutral since he seems to be able to access most of his range with ease and a sometimes warm, sometimes cool tone, albeit his vocal technique isn't great)
Warm neutral is my favorite, which explains why I always loved Whitney and Kelly. I don’t know Perrie but the little I’ve heard of her, it sounds like it’d describe her voice too. Mori on the other hand sounds more warm bright to me, along the lines of Mariah and Tori.
Nice concept. I'd like to use it for three of my faves who didn't get to be in this video : Lara Fabian : I would put her in Warm Neutral Celine Dion : I think Warm Bright is fitting Faouzia : I'm less sure of it, but I would say Cool Neutral Do you agree ?
I enjoyed this video; it felt like a taster to a lot more though! It would be good to hear your opinion on other major, iconic vocalists like Barry White, Stevie Wonder, Michael Jackson, Prince, Donna Summer, George Michael, Jennifer Hudson, Lauryn Hill and also Kelly Rowland. In the early days of Destiny's Child Kelly sounded a lot like Beyonce tone-wise but that changed in her mid 20's.
hm from my own limited understanding of these archetypes, it seems like neutral brights are the most common in pop music. (or at least the current pop music landscape
I’ve been trying to classify my voice in one of these. I think I might be Cool bright. Or warm dark. I can have some sweetness however have a darkness to my voice in my show choir that stands out.
Mariah's voice went thru like multiple changes over the years, so she can be in many catagories imo. Buterfly era voice is totally different from Emotions era voice. Whitney's voice from the 1980's, is a much different voice from the mid 90's.
I came here hoping tofigure out which one fits me, but it's almost impossible to categorize myself 😅 I am very sure I am dark, but then I can also sound very clear and light in my higher register. Help?
I think it would be good to get into how these voices can actually be characterized. Like "dark" can mean so many things. And the temperature of the voice? For example, I noticed most of the "bright" singers are in the the highest vocal range, aka soprano/tenor, and most of the dark singers had deeper voices.
I expected to see where you would put Celine Dion's voice, she is the most versatile singer of the trinity! She can sing practically everything pop, jazz, opera, rock, gospel, soul.
and not too them convincingly.. the delusion....gospel hahahah, jazzhahahahah, soul hahahah. you are deluded...and I am a huge fan of her. black people would laugh at you
@@odumosuolusegun2781 black people would laugh at you for thinking different races own different music. "What makes me sound black? How do I sound more white?" - Whitney Houston.
I get the difference between bright vs dark (basically bright voices have a bit of a higher sitting voice while darker voices sits a bit lower; bright voices also seem to emphasize higher notes and dark voices lower notes), but what is cool vs warm?? I'm guessing it's sharper vs rounder vowels but I'm not sure
Dark vs Bright tone doesn’t effect range. Tone is relative and separate from pitch. Dark voices tend to sound more dramatic, metallic and imposing. Bright voices tend to sound more sweet, youthful and relatable. There’s many singers with dark tone that sing very high such as Sam Smith, Jennifer Hudson & Patti label, but it can be more polarizing because of how powerful and piercing it sounds. Likewise many bright voiced singers have lower range such as Michael Buble or Billie Eilish but it can be polarizing because it’s perceived as boring and overly casual / conversational. The over all goal is to either achieve a neutral tone, or lean into your strengths if you have a very dark or bright voice. This is why John Legend isn’t singing Bruno Mars-ish songs. TLDR; depth of tone determines your vocal color and is very habitual / unique. Pitch is vocal range. Women can hit the baritone just as men can hit the soprano, pitch just has more to do with finding the correct method.
@@Sloppyjoey1 You're right that the brightness or darkness of a voice does not determine the range, but it is related to the natural height and depth of the voice. The lower a voice is, the bigger, denser and darker it will be. The higher a voice is, the brighter, "smaller" and less naturally dense it will be. Hence why a Dramatic Soprano would sound darker than a Lyric Soprano, a Baritone darker than a Tenor, etc, if theyre all singing "naturally", however it is of course possible to manipulate tone color. But the natural darkness or brightness has to do with vocal chord mass. And I wouldn't describe Patti as having a particularly dark voice. Quite bright to me
@@cameron7644 "Natural" is relative, habitual and makes an assumption that 'natural' = universal. A Soprano can live all day in headvoice and a Baritone can live all day in chestvoice, and that's what's "natural" to them. The assumption that a Mezzo/Baritone *has* to have a darker, bigger, denser voice than a Tenor/Soprano is verrrrry outdated. And I say this as a 2nd Tenor (Spinto/Dramatic) who's always taken for a baritone until they can no longer explain the easy B4-D5 belts. If you compare Jennifer Hudson (Soprano) to say, Brandy or Beyonce (Mezzo), the system immediately breaks down and it doesn't even explain half the story. Jhud's voice is clearly denser, darker & bigger than Brandy, yet higher. And Brandy's voice is clearly brighter, smaller & more agile, but lower. Yet they have incredible stamina and it forces us to (inaccurately) assume one or the other is singing incorrectly or doing something unnatural. I won't debate Patti's timbre because it's not really needed to make my point that range and tone are largely separate things. The fach / classical timbre system is an imperialistic, European standard that is largely unfamiliar with higher / darker range & timbre combinations more commonly found in people of African & Asian ancestry. Pitch isn't tone, and correlation isn't cause.
I believe Seulgi has to be in the cool bright side and Katy has to be leaning to warm dark. Seulgi voice tone is too extreme light soft and feminine why Katy's tone is thicker, warmer and heavy Other than that i guess: -Taylor: cool neutral or cool bright -Selena Gomez: cool dark -Britney: cool bright -Xtina: warm neutral -Jihyo (Twice): Warm bright -Winter, Rosé: cool bright -NingNing: neutral bright An interesting topic!
Suggestion. Nature spirits as tribes Fire Tribe-the Salamanders Water Tribe- the Undines Air Tribe- the Sylphs Earth Tribe- the Gnomes Chieftains- Prime Salamander: Whitney Houston Prime Undine: Celine Dion Prime Sylph: Mariah Carey Prime Gnome: Lara Fabian Hahaha for Halloween videos
I would describe myself as warm/ bright. I like to manipulate my sounds but my speaking voice is "naturally" higher for a male. It is my habitual voice but I "could " speak lower. It's not just my pitch but the vowels I tend to choose. I love smiley vowels when singing e aye etc. I love adding nasal qualities. I could add more depth but it doesn't feel right for me sometimes. It isn't the sound I go for ( sorry I'm not Adele.)
For people don't know, in traditional Vietnamese singing, we use 5 nature elements to discribe how the singing sound like: Water (agile,, smooth, soft), Fire (husky, raspy, dark), Plant (easy to ears, soft, having some thickness), Earth (thick, a lot of weigh, loud) an Metal (thin, light, bright)
I'm so sorry that it does not have any video to explain but it also says that everybody does have 5 elements in their voice, it is more or less some thing. For example, Vocal Trinity is one the most balance elenmet in their voice. Whitney has most of her voice belong to Earth (weigh), next is Fire (power,) , Plant (warm), Metal (so much bright at het uper belt) and water (agile). Mariah with most water (agile), Plant (warm), Metal (bright), earth (weigh) and fire (power). Celines is Plant (warm), water (agile), earth (weigh) , Metal (bright), and fire (husky, raps, power)
whoa 😲
That's such a pretty way to see it
This made a lot of sense to me
What if you’re the Avatar?…
Well vocal enthusiasts have been describing voices this way for a long time in order to cast operatic singers and i think there’s something to it . Its a lot more interesting than just saying soprano or mezzo
Agreed. It’s less linear than facher
This is 100% true, especially for Opera and bel canto music. Directors want to make sure the cast has the right voices in technique and timbre in order to handle each character they portraying.
All so true, this changed my perspective of how I see singers now
Soprano or mezzo only tell you about how high or low a voice is. There is more to a voice than just how high or low...
Now I get it why when Red Velvet makes a comeback whether Red or Velvet side, Wendy mostly gets to shine in Red concepts because of her warm voice then Seulgi shines in their Velvet concepts because hers is more cooler. Thanks for this analysis.
I used to think that Wendy's and Seulgi's voices are almost impossible to differentiate and now I cringe so much at myself
If you listen to the first verse of "Beg For Me", you'll notice the difference in their temperatures and brightness
Hi, I have no idea that the concepts were divided like that...could you give me an example of reds and velvet songs? or is there a place where I could find more info? that´s interesting
Wendy has more depth than seulgi tho.
I think both do sultry styles better but wendy is the only one that belts so she might appear "brighter".
Joy and Yeri sing more in Red concepts.
Aurora I think is the **perfect** example of cool bright. Her voice is like an icy wind, you should definitely check her out!
(She was the wooohooo's in into the unknown)
her voice is so cold and soothing at the same time
Oh yeah, cool bright voices tend to be cooling and almost ethereal!
And Aurora is a PERFECT example!
Yes!! Another one that definitely has a cool bright voice is Rosé
her voice sounds like the northern lights look
Outside of English singers, REOL is a really good cool bright voice too!
Warm Neutral is my absolute favorite. Kelly / Whitney / Morisette and Perrie just all have this sweet warm voice that feels like it can hit a switch & become dark powerful and commanding. It translates so usefully to live singing because it feels like they can sing anything.
Righttt
But to me Whitney is much more than that. Her tone can be everything in this
@@kng001 That's sort of what "neutral" means though lol. Whitney (like Morisette / Kelly Clarkson / Perrie) were warm neutral hence that extreme versatility, they can sound either dark or bright on command.
But cold? Never imo. If you hear Whitney even so much as speak she clearly has a naturally warm, cozy friendly tone that I don't think anyone would ever describe as cold.
It still fascinated me how beyonce can sing in her darkness till it makes you think that she went to mezzo but after I listen to plastic of the sofa and Virgo groove I lost it like her voice became so light like it reminded me of her dangerously in love Era
@Day not to mention she's a coloratura mezzo-soprano so that adds up even more
Everyone described as "cool" I noticed had strong nasal resonance, and didn't tend to "smile" to "brighten" up their voice the way I was told to do in voice lessons to cut through the darkness!
Also we can't overstate the contribution of mixing! I once heard a studio recording of my voice that "shaved off the dark" around my voice and made me sound warm bright, when I know I'm warm dark!
There are many technical ways of modifying the tone of your voice, however everyone has a place in their voice, which is the most neutral and is the closest to their true tone.
For example, I can sing with a darker and cooler tone to my voice by lowering my larynx and different vowel shaping, even though my voice is naturally on the warm neutral/warm bright side.
@@aintnootherfan So true! thanks for this-- I always look forward to (and share) your videos!
@@aintnootherfan Hey 👋🏽 there - I have a question for you - who will you say is a better vocalist out of Ally Brooke & Perrie Edwards ⁉️⁉️
@@JoCurKRAZE perrin obviously but ally is a vocal beast also
It's weird to think that there are singers in the same archetype that I both love and dislike, but as you said, that isn't the only thing to a singers voice. Amazing video as always I love it so much!
I think Taylor Swift would be perfect representation for Neutral category, her voice can sounds pretty warm but also quite cool at times and her tone isn't that bright or dark either, to me she sounds like she's right in the middle. That's probably why is her voice so versatile for so many styles and genres. This is probably why i love her voice so much.
If selection of people in the video is any indication, I think it was meant to be actual vocalists only although I'm pretty sure I heard Olivia Rodrigo snuck in there but she's like Taylor 2.0 so I guess he dumped the out dated model
all it can sound is pretty bad
@@OpinionatedZoomer69 I’m like 90 percent sure Olivia rodrigo has a much better sense of support than Tay
hmmm Taylor could be a nice pick for the neutral archetype!
@@OpinionatedZoomer69 I don't think so. Cuz there are Jennie & Irene in there who don't support. So they'll be non vocalists but he added them.
When you can't even determine your personal color for clothes but you're trying to determine your vocals
I feel like Mariah Carey could be in any category depending on the album... especially with how much her tone fluctuates
She deserves a whole video on her own
No
Because she explores her voice, rather than just sitting steady in it. Not an easy feat, but anyone can if they seek to maximize themselves vocally
@@mohammedbenhammou3901 try listening to all of her albums first before saying "no".
@@DaydreamCarey1234 exactly also hey bestie
would be cool to see a comparison of each archetype singing the same song while changing only one variable. for ex comparing cool bright, cool neutral and cool dark singing the same song. just to really see the difference
This feels like a sequel to the "The Problem With Unique Voices In Pop" video; great way of describing vocalists. It adds more individuality to classifying than voices than solely calling one a Light Lyric Soprano because some in the same fach and somewhat the same level of vocal development sound different eg. Ariana Grande & Demi Lovato, but these colors provide some reasons.
Omg thank you! Yeah it's kinda like a sequel I guess haha
@@aintnootherfan You don't miss 🎯
Have you heard about Rolling Stone calling Harry Styles "The New King of Pop" & the backlash that ensued? Someone even posted a video comparing Harry Styles singing at 16 vs Michael Jackson singing at 10.
@@GarageStudio7 "Oh wow"
It reminds of those dark times when Dua Lipa was called the new Madonna lol
But I didn't know about this one!
And the comparison must have been... YIKES
@@aintnootherfan "Those dark times" 😂😂 Oh wow, love that description 😅
I'm wondering if they're doing this just to get clicks because it doesn't add up. At least choose people who are somewhat close in renown, success, impact, talent etc.
@@GarageStudio7 Hello there my friend - just to ask a question - who do you think is a better vocalist out of Ally Brooke & Perrie Edwards ⁉️⁉️
Morissette is very versatile..She can go from warmth bright dark or neutral timbre of her voice..Thank u for recognizing Morissette...The Phenominal diva!!!
Haven’t even watched the video and I already gave the “like” button a thumb up because I know you ALWAYS deliver content!
I really appreciate that you bring up korean vocalists for comparison too. personally, singing in Korean is a lot easier since they are a phonetic language to begin with. not sure how people will take that, but I hope you can touch on this when you can, like sprinkle such information where you can. appreciate you!!
for blackpink, i personally think:
jisoo: cool dark
jennie: i completely agree w cool natural
rosé: warm bright
lisa: neutral bright
Jisoo is warm dark for me
Donna Summer is the Queen Of Vocal Colors because she sang various genres and changed up her voice to fit the character of the songs she sang. For example, compare her vocal approaches on Love To Love You Baby, Hot Stuff, Dinner With Gershwin, Stop Me, Sometimes Like Butterflies, etc.
I'd say Donna Summer had a very cool neutral voice which might be a reason she's not often considered alongside other Soul singers.
My goodness, I'm honored yet again! Your knowledge and insight on vocal technique has actually helped so much! Your essays are immaculate (not that I expect anything less)
Warm neutral is definitely my favorite, Perrie Edwards is one of my favorite vocalists of all time. And of course the great Whitney Houston!
Omg it means a lot to me, thank you!
Oh yeah, I can't decide between warm neutral and warm bright!
This video made me realize how nuanced voice tones are, I always knew they were but never knew how to describe them
Very nice video bestie. I love how both my favorite RUclipsrs are somewhat supporting each other's channels like this hehe. And yeah, as someone who is bilingual, I tend to speak English in a higher voice register + sounding a bit feminine in comparison to when I speak in my native language where I talk in my more neutral and somewhat masculine voice. I guess that's just how our minds work when it comes to languages lmaooo
I genuinely wish this was an official categorization system because I feel that it makes so much sense. I watch this video over and over because enjoy it so much. 🥰
YESSS FINALLY!! we love a pro of colors of voices 😍 you add so much to this community! can’t wait to watch
omg thanks for the video again! You made me realize that all my faves are all in cool tone: Miley, Seulgi, Karina, and Jennie. But I do love Wendy's warm tone that's why 'Written in the stars ft. John Legend' was such a heartwarming song🥺
I love the term "Cool Neutral", I usually use the term "Silver" to capture bright voices that have that dark husk Jojo, Tori Kelly, &Michelle Williams.
Very interesting. I'm a little confused, but from what i've noticed, i think the warm voices have an asmr'ish whisper layer behind their main vocals, and neutrals can also have that whisper layer sometimes but not always. The cool ones are less asmr'ish to me, if that makes sense
Imo Beyoncé is pure warm to me , her voice is like DEEP RICH HONEY . The coldest one for me could have been miss Lorde cause if I think about her the first thing that comes to mind is something very dreamy yet very dry . I also think Mariah is really difficult to put in a category and also her fellow diva Whitney
Neutral Darks are absolutely my favourites; they have this sense of mystery to their voices, but also that very grounded maturity. They also sound good as rappers eg when Beyoncé rap-sings.
Miley gives me warm dark. I lowkey feel a blankie of warm air on my skin in my mind when i hear her
Sohyang gives me cool bright everyday. Her performances of Wild flower, and Bridge over trouble water gave that to me.
Totally agree.
I agree with you. Especially about Miley she sounds warm. But I'd say she is more of a dark neutral tbh she is really versatile.
@@xylypotatohead3947 also there is an aspect of weight too, as well as tessitura,hope people dont think heavy means dark or low means dark.
15:09 Yess can we please explore them? I'm very interested in textures in the voice.
This was such a fun video because sometimes I do feel some voices are 'warm' while others are 'cool'.
I totally thought Beyonce would be warm dark xD. And Tori Kelly and Mariah Carey definitely fit the warm bright category.
Oh no, I really loved this kind of video, hope you'll be making more!
And just a question, as someone matures, can their voice go from bright to dark?
I like that you mentioned Anastacia. She's so great to me. Also nice shoutout to the amazing everglow up.
That snippet of her singing "I'm outta love" without background music sounds so gorgeous!
ahhh this can also explain why certain covers just sound so much better than others. i guess there's probably a better chance of if one chooses to cover a song of someone with the similar archetype. using this, i also agree with you that ailee is probably a very neutral tone!
seeing and hearing Mariah instantly makes me smile.
as usual, amazing video.
btw, tag yourselves guys. I'm neutral bright - I guess.
Omgggg what a BRILLIANT video idea. I’d love to know what timbre/color you’d give my voice eeee I live for these videos 😂♥️
ooo this is interesting! I love this concept. I feel like Toni Braxton is a warm dark voice. Her voice has alot of warmth to it. Sade has a cool warm tone to her voice. Jennifer Hudson voice is warm neutral cause sometimes she has alot of depth and weight to her voice but she can also brighten it up as well. Mariah Carey voice is smooth but I think its neutral cause her voice can be bright as well as warm or cool. Christina Aguilera tone is cool dark to me. Wonderful topic I love this. First person that came to mind was Bebe Winans in the gospel realm with a warm voice. Also Luther Vandross and Donny Hathaway.
This was such a beautiful video, I would think Taylor Swift might be a straight neutral. Mariah Carey would fit in a majority of these categories when looking at different eras
Yeah, Mariah is a freaking chameleon over the years!
And Taylor seems like a pretty good pick for Neutral:)
Seulgi always stood out to me ❤️
80s Whitney warm bright
90s Whitney warm dark
Warm Neutral are the most beautiful tones/colors/textures, you definitely can't imitate them, and their version will always be superior to any other cover. My opinion.
Loved this video! :D
My FAVOURITES are; Whitney, Mariah, Tori, Perrie and Beyoncé!!!!♥️♥️♥️♥️
Can I just say that I love your Channel Bro! Always well thought out entertaining content
What I like most about your channel is how you describe in words the voices of kpop singers. I hope to one day hear a description of STAYC, I like your opinions.
Warm/Neutral, Warm/Dark and Warm Bright are my favorites. I think that Lisa Fischer has a Warm/Dark or Warm/Neutral voice. It's gorgeous! I really liked this video!
Lisa Fischer is one of the greatest vocalist of all time imo .
ur videos have rlly helped discover my own voice and evaluate what assets I have as a singer so i rlly appreciate ur channel :)) literally get so excited every time u post!
Irene voice in Cool Bright catergory? Cool,that's explain why I love her and Wendy's voice so much. Both are bright~ And since there's John Legend clip, I wanna put it here:
Wendy x John Legend "Written in the stars"
Wendy x Ricky Martin "Vente pa ca"
RV x Ellie Goulding "Close to me"
My favourite women vocalist and voice in k-pop are: 1) Ella in Pixy she has similar voice as Ariana Grande, can do bright angelic high note or powerful high note, she can sing with her chest with her low voice, she can rap, her facial expression is amazing, 2) Yeongjung from WJSN, can do very high note, 3) Ningning of Aespa
This is my favourite video of yours!! I can tell you took so much time making it Thankyouu
Your video concepts are always 😍😍. That outro run was smooth🙌🏽
Amazes me how Beyonce's vocals are getting better...like the richness now
Wonderful topic and wonderful video! Question for you: do you think a singer's quality (brightness, darkness...) can change depending on the register in which they're singing?
Im not him, but I think that's very possible. There are singers with dark mid and lows and bright high notes/head voices. Same with cool - warm and other qualities.
Depending how you sing, you can definitely change qualities. For example, I’m a bass and I mostly sing with a rounder and open mouth for the low notes. But when I do sing higher keys or just pop songs, I switch to my higher register which thins and sounds twangy. In other words, my vocal quality is considered cool bright but when I change it, I’m a warm bright.
It does change. I'm a guy and my voice sounds naturally somewhat husky, raspy and really warm. But usually my voice seems to be much lighter than it naturally is, because I mainly mix my registers instead of belting, and tbh I struggle with poor chest voice development xD
I think changing vocal color is easier for neutral tones. For example Beyonce was a Cool/Neutral but her upper belts sound very bright. Whitney and Kelly were Warm Neutral but their upper belts are known for being dark, meaty and piercing.
A dark or bright voice tends to keep its tone but neutral toned voices tend to have more versatility in changing their tone while maintaining the same quality of sound.
There are many technical ways of modifying the tone of your voice, however everyone has a place in their voice, which is the most neutral and is the closest to their true tone.
For example, I can sing with a darker and cooler tone to my voice even though my voice is naturally on the warm neutral/warm bright side.
I love this video!! Thanks for explaining Irene's tone of voice, I love it 💝
Red Velvet is an excellent group because of how their different tones complement each other 💝💛💙💚💜
Bright voices usually uses head/falsetto. Dark uses chest a lot of time. Gaga is insane when it comes to her chest and you can feel it's gravity but has an unsupported head sometimes. Katy is the opposite. She doesn't have much chest and uses brighter tones most often
Nice concept! And you added back the run at the end 🙏🏽
According to this essay, Ado's voice is Cool-Dark! Thanks for doing this essay video I hope you do new videos where you describe voices.
Maybe hwasa would be a good addition to the warm dark archetype , when you explained it, her song with loco "dont give it" came right to my mind
Interesting video. 👏
I agree that Perries very versatile cause she can manipulate her vibrato to be a bit faster for a more upbeat song or slow it down in a sense for a ballad and same w Whitney she can be dark at times in a sense, but was very versatile in the Sense that she could switch up and sing and genre
And I agree mariah has that warm and bright colour she showed it a lot during butterfly era and music box era imo
And the neutral bright i love how u chose Ariana grande and Justin bieber bc they’re both singers who represent that kind of colour Yk
Mariah done had just about every tone on here 😭 because a album like glitter or music box are way brighter then debut era same with Beyoncé her was was always darker but more bright earlier on
What category would you put: Annie Lennox. Alison Moyet. Lisa Stansfield. George Michael. Rick Astley. Phil Collins. Enya. Amy Winehouse. Luther Vandross. Freddie Mercury.
It's definitely possible for some singers voices to go through several categories if they sing through hormonal changes from their youth over a span of decades like my girl Whitney! She was girly bright in the 80s... then we got a smooth but darker tone on Bodyguard (being pregnant her voice dropped an octave)... which was nice but my personal fav was her full rich mature sound (The Preachers Wife mid late 90s/early 2000)! Whitney trademark at the height of her career. ❤️
P.s. While Aretha is Queen of soul, her voice also changed. Dionne Warwick too.
Very true!
You should do a version for R&B 90s style (i..e. Toni, Whitney, Deborah, Tamia, Kelli Price )!! 👏🏼 🙌🏽
And stop talking about your voice. You sound fine But if you want more bass, just drop your jaw and project from the back of your throat or bee bop like old school rappers (pulsing from the base side of your throat/ singers vein)😆
By the way I couldn't roll my Rs speaking Spanish for a while but got it down now!! 😃
@@theofficialchriscraig hahaha I think it's mostly because I speak in a foreign language and I try to focus on the pronunciation the most
Enjoy the rest of your day!
LOVED THIS 🤍
Also, under which archetype would you put these singers:
1. Demi Lovato (I'm thinking Neutral, like Ailee and Jade, because her voice isn't always too bright but isn't that dark either; she is also a very versatile singer and has hints of warmth and a more cool, sexy quality to her voice)
2. Leigh-Anne Pinnock (from Little Mix; would probably put Leigh in Warm Bright or Neutral Bright but I'm honestly not very sure)
3. Taylor Swift (definitely Neutral Bright)
4. Celine Dion (probably Warm Neutral but I can't be too sure)
5. Zayn Malik (I'm thinking Warm Neutral since Zayn's voice is quite dark for a tenor but isn't dark or low enough for him to be a baritone; his voice does carry quite a bit of warmth but also a piercing quality, especially when he uses his falsetto)
6. Harry Styles (I suppose he would come under Neutral or Warm Neutral since he seems to be able to access most of his range with ease and a sometimes warm, sometimes cool tone, albeit his vocal technique isn't great)
I’d put Celine as bright somewhere…not sure precisely where but that voice of hers is piercing and powerful.
Warm neutral is my favorite, which explains why I always loved Whitney and Kelly. I don’t know Perrie but the little I’ve heard of her, it sounds like it’d describe her voice too. Mori on the other hand sounds more warm bright to me, along the lines of Mariah and Tori.
This was such a good video concept
astounding analysis, vivid.
Nice concept. I'd like to use it for three of my faves who didn't get to be in this video :
Lara Fabian : I would put her in Warm Neutral
Celine Dion : I think Warm Bright is fitting
Faouzia : I'm less sure of it, but I would say Cool Neutral
Do you agree ?
Pretty accurate I think :)
Ariana and Justin have such bright tones it’s crazy
Very interesting video. Just out of curiosity, where would u put Michael Bublé and Christina Aguilera?
Imo, Buble is warm neutral. Christina is cool neutral (not sure)
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Beyoncé, Mariah and Whitney could fit in every category they’re very versatile vocally.
Yeah I don’t agree with the category for Beyoncé. Her new song Plastic off the sofa reminds of her DIL days.
i dont think you understand vocal tones lol
Remember, Beyonce's voice got darker after child birth
@@mbaprecious3332her brighter voice was beautiful, but her dark voice is just luxurious and my fav voice ever, alongside gaga
I enjoyed this video; it felt like a taster to a lot more though!
It would be good to hear your opinion on other major, iconic vocalists like Barry White, Stevie Wonder, Michael Jackson, Prince, Donna Summer, George Michael, Jennifer Hudson, Lauryn Hill and also Kelly Rowland. In the early days of Destiny's Child Kelly sounded a lot like Beyonce tone-wise but that changed in her mid 20's.
This is a great video concept!
Literally waited for this topic, cause you often use words like "сold" or "warm" to decribe voices.
hm from my own limited understanding of these archetypes, it seems like neutral brights are the most common in pop music. (or at least the current pop music landscape
Can you list some neutral brights? There's only Ariana Grande in the video and I'd love to know who else is in this category!
I’ve been trying to classify my voice in one of these. I think I might be Cool bright. Or warm dark. I can have some sweetness however have a darkness to my voice in my show choir that stands out.
Ariana her voice is very warm and natrul she can turn her voice in every category
No hahahaha
Will...i know i came to the right place, LLLOOOVE your content and for the last one I think soyong is what you looking for
I wonder in what category Lana Del Rey will be? She has very unique voice never heard anyone like her
I've asked myself the same thing, because her voice can go very high and pretty low as well. It tends to sound more warm, at times quite bright...
Mariah's voice went thru like multiple changes over the years, so she can be in many catagories imo. Buterfly era voice is totally different from Emotions era voice. Whitney's voice from the 1980's, is a much different voice from the mid 90's.
What do you all think for Girls' Generation?
Taeyeon - Neutral Neutral (truly encompasses both warm and cool, dark and bright)
Jessica - Neutral Bright (leaning warm)
Sunny - Cool Bright
Tiffany - Neutral Dark (leaning cool)
Hyoyeon - Cool Dark
Yuri - Warm Bright
Sooyoung - Cool Neutral
Yoona - Cool Neutral
Seohyun - Warm Neutral
Anyone else a warm bright?
I came here hoping tofigure out which one fits me, but it's almost impossible to categorize myself 😅 I am very sure I am dark, but then I can also sound very clear and light in my higher register. Help?
I think it would be good to get into how these voices can actually be characterized. Like "dark" can mean so many things. And the temperature of the voice? For example, I noticed most of the "bright" singers are in the the highest vocal range, aka soprano/tenor, and most of the dark singers had deeper voices.
What about the singers who posseses “sharp bright” voices, for example Zara Larson, Ashley Tisdale, Kesha, Rosé and many more…
Just a thougth but I feel like Miley is not actually a dark voice but rather a quite bright one that sits very confortably on a lower register.
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Great video
you should do one for kpop only
it's the smae vocals
I think warm dark is my favorite. So lush.
I expected to see where you would put Celine Dion's voice, she is the most versatile singer of the trinity! She can sing practically everything pop, jazz, opera, rock, gospel, soul.
and not too them convincingly.. the delusion....gospel hahahah, jazzhahahahah, soul hahahah. you are deluded...and I am a huge fan of her. black people would laugh at you
Absolutely not lmao
@@odumosuolusegun2781 black people would laugh at you for thinking different races own different music. "What makes me sound black? How do I sound more white?" - Whitney Houston.
I get the difference between bright vs dark (basically bright voices have a bit of a higher sitting voice while darker voices sits a bit lower; bright voices also seem to emphasize higher notes and dark voices lower notes), but what is cool vs warm?? I'm guessing it's sharper vs rounder vowels but I'm not sure
That's exactly what it is. Colder voices sound metallic and somewhat thin, whereas warmer voices are rounder, and more velvety.
Dark vs Bright tone doesn’t effect range. Tone is relative and separate from pitch. Dark voices tend to sound more dramatic, metallic and imposing. Bright voices tend to sound more sweet, youthful and relatable.
There’s many singers with dark tone that sing very high such as Sam Smith, Jennifer Hudson & Patti label, but it can be more polarizing because of how powerful and piercing it sounds.
Likewise many bright voiced singers have lower range such as Michael Buble or Billie Eilish but it can be polarizing because it’s perceived as boring and overly casual / conversational.
The over all goal is to either achieve a neutral tone, or lean into your strengths if you have a very dark or bright voice. This is why John Legend isn’t singing Bruno Mars-ish songs.
TLDR; depth of tone determines your vocal color and is very habitual / unique. Pitch is vocal range. Women can hit the baritone just as men can hit the soprano, pitch just has more to do with finding the correct method.
@@Sloppyjoey1 You're right that the brightness or darkness of a voice does not determine the range, but it is related to the natural height and depth of the voice. The lower a voice is, the bigger, denser and darker it will be. The higher a voice is, the brighter, "smaller" and less naturally dense it will be. Hence why a Dramatic Soprano would sound darker than a Lyric Soprano, a Baritone darker than a Tenor, etc, if theyre all singing "naturally", however it is of course possible to manipulate tone color. But the natural darkness or brightness has to do with vocal chord mass. And I wouldn't describe Patti as having a particularly dark voice. Quite bright to me
@@cameron7644 "Natural" is relative, habitual and makes an assumption that 'natural' = universal. A Soprano can live all day in headvoice and a Baritone can live all day in chestvoice, and that's what's "natural" to them.
The assumption that a Mezzo/Baritone *has* to have a darker, bigger, denser voice than a Tenor/Soprano is verrrrry outdated. And I say this as a 2nd Tenor (Spinto/Dramatic) who's always taken for a baritone until they can no longer explain the easy B4-D5 belts.
If you compare Jennifer Hudson (Soprano) to say, Brandy or Beyonce (Mezzo), the system immediately breaks down and it doesn't even explain half the story.
Jhud's voice is clearly denser, darker & bigger than Brandy, yet higher. And Brandy's voice is clearly brighter, smaller & more agile, but lower. Yet they have incredible stamina and it forces us to (inaccurately) assume one or the other is singing incorrectly or doing something unnatural.
I won't debate Patti's timbre because it's not really needed to make my point that range and tone are largely separate things.
The fach / classical timbre system is an imperialistic, European standard that is largely unfamiliar with higher / darker range & timbre combinations more commonly found in people of African & Asian ancestry.
Pitch isn't tone, and correlation isn't cause.
I love this kind of content 👀
beyonce's voice really changed throughout the years
I believe Seulgi has to be in the cool bright side and Katy has to be leaning to warm dark. Seulgi voice tone is too extreme light soft and feminine why Katy's tone is thicker, warmer and heavy
Other than that i guess:
-Taylor: cool neutral or cool bright
-Selena Gomez: cool dark
-Britney: cool bright
-Xtina: warm neutral
-Jihyo (Twice): Warm bright
-Winter, Rosé: cool bright
-NingNing: neutral bright
An interesting topic!
I think jihyo suits with more warm neutral
Irene and beyonce in the thumbnail ? Automaticaly click
Suggestion.
Nature spirits as tribes
Fire Tribe-the Salamanders
Water Tribe- the Undines
Air Tribe- the Sylphs
Earth Tribe- the Gnomes
Chieftains-
Prime Salamander: Whitney Houston
Prime Undine: Celine Dion
Prime Sylph: Mariah Carey
Prime Gnome: Lara Fabian
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I would describe myself as warm/ bright. I like to manipulate my sounds but my speaking voice is "naturally" higher for a male. It is my habitual voice but I "could " speak lower. It's not just my pitch but the vowels I tend to choose. I love smiley vowels when singing e aye etc. I love adding nasal qualities. I could add more depth but it doesn't feel right for me sometimes. It isn't the sound I go for ( sorry I'm not Adele.)
I heard my voice is a cool brigjt kinda voice ong im in love 😍😍
yeah tbh i always felt like beyoncé’s is warm
but i see why you think neutral
Katy Perry: cool bright
Lady Gaga, dua lipa, Miley cyrus: Cool dark.
Cool warm (smooth and comfy, warm) : Adele, John legend
Cool bright (vibrant, sound effortlessly joyful charismatic and romantic) : Mariah Carey.
I think you mean warm bright for the last one :)
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