Kia's Un-Minivan | 2022 Kia Carnival First Drive
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- Опубликовано: 9 сен 2024
- Is "Carnival" an odd sounding name to the American ear? Yes. On the other hand, Kia's renamed minivan has a great deal to offer and might just be the best boxy people transporter in America. You'll be happy to know there's only one "Carnival" badge on the back and it looks easy to remove...
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I gotta be honest. When I first discovered Alex's channel, i felt it was boring. But now, whenever i see a car that i am interested, I always come check Alex's channel first. It's very informative.
He treats reviews like a professional... so his information is concise , informative, and occasionally funny.
Yo tbh tho same with me love this dude, he’s always goes in depth
and he always does his homework!
100 same
It certainly helps that he’s become much more relaxed and would occasionally jokes around too!
Should I ever have a family, I know what used van I will want in the future. Very nice kia!
I'm still blown away by the fact the second row sunroof opens lol
I'm not sure why this blows you away over the reclining and ottoman 2nd row. That is, like Alex said, a taste of "luxurious minivan" from Asia. That to me is far more awesome than a moonroof that opens up.
@@dailyrant4068 reclining seats with footrests have been optional on minivans for years. Those kinds of features don’t appeal to common minivan buyers, though, so no one ever sees those features.
The moonroof is amazing, though
I don't even think I've ever seen that before!!!
@@AKP101 Hmm, definitely not recliner with that kind of footrest. It is better than a premium economy seat. You might be right that it doesn't appeal to common buyers, but it is amazing to have that. The only other class of vehicle that has comparable seats would be full size luxury cars like S-class. The sun roof isn't that amazing unless your kid really wants to open up the sunroof....
Wish the seats could fold flat for camping mode. Lol
I may be the only senior citizen commenting, but as I've gotten older and have some difficulty walking and getting into and out of most vehicles, this seems a great alternative. I don't have kids but I do like to go places and take friends. I currently drive a Mazda 5 (no longer made) and really think that, although a bit larger, I could live with this vehicle.
I have had the SX for almost a week and my whole family is obsessed we are so happy with it we got it in ceramic silver and have gotten to many compliments even from strangers
I'm glad a US based reviewer finally discussed that the sedona/carnival is not targeted primarily at US based consumers, but the ones in Asia. Asian markets see these big vans as VIP transportation and even status symbols of wealth (the owner rides in the 2nd row, you have a personal driver Ofc). I'm saying this because the design priorities will be different than something like a sienna or pacifica. That's why some of the interior appointments can seem more akin to a limo (adult comfort, interior quality, etc) rather than the 'family-oriented' vans (storage holes, on board vaccuum, cargo oriented to carrying children and their stuff).
Not true at all. They treat this as a family vehicle in Korea. Hyundai Kia are a bunch of gangsters. They use native consumers as beta testers so they can point out problems and then sell the new models in the USA.
I am from Asia, VIPs dont ride minivan. they ride in German luxury suvs and Italian hypercars.
한국에서 이 차량은 '30대 아빠들의 차' 의 대명사 입니다. 고급 차량으로 인식되고 있지 않습니다. 종종 난폭운전을 한다는 인식 또한 가지고 있습니다😅
일반적으로 한국에서 부의 상징이 될수 있는 고급차량은 s클래스, 벤틀리, 롤스로이스 정도 입니다. 미니밴은 전혀 아닌...ㅋㅋ
The reclining second row with the sunroof would be a great place to space out. It looks like a nice ride for sure.
I got one 3 weeks ago. Absolutely love it. Drives like a dream and the cargo room is enormous. The 12.5 inch screen is a pleasure to use and navigate with. Overall they have hit this one out of the ballpark. One ding is that it does not have wireless carplay. They could have easily added it. Not sure why the did not. The lane centering also works well on freeways including most curves. Stop and go works great as well. Great Job Kia.
And no usb-c, and no sunroof on SX or below, and faux leather on SX and below, and no digital instrument with blind view monitor. Really like thisvsn, but Kia made some very weird omissions on the SX.
@@jmarston4 Personally I don't like sun roof and not into usb-C. I love the leatherette very much and don't care for blind view monitor. Their instrument panel is fine for me. So I am very happy with this MPV. Personally, I would prefer a rotary or button gearshift and make it like Toyota sienna center panel. May be in their next revision.
I appreciate your feedback on your experience after purchasing one. I’m glad it’s been positive. I’m considering this.
I keep thinking how comfortable this car is for my parents and my grandma. The back seats look so comfortable for elderly people. Will consider buying this for them
The most Suv-looking minivan out there✨
Kinda-like the anti-Pilot, because the Pilot looks like a Minivan lol
Or it IS an suv w/ sliding doors
@@navinstrument8353 that's a good one.
"The SUV with sliding doors✨"
Sienna still would people first choice because of better fuel economy, reliability and quality
@@westisinmyblood1240 Well, that is the story of history. Not anymore my friend.
The absolute best automotive review I have ever seen. Not just focusing on speed and slalom numbers. But instead on what the vehicle was made for. Thank you Sir. I am a new fan.
If you have 3 kids, the middle seat in the middle row going way back makes a lot of sense. No one wants to sit in the back row, and the offset seating gives all 3 kids their own mini privacy. Lots of room for luggage then too.
This guy gets it.
I could also imagine a scenario where you have a lot of luggage. You need to fit 3 people in the back, but you also need to carry a lot of stuff, and may not have room for the 3rd row. So why not move the middle seat back, and get a bit more space.
If u have 3 kids why wouldn't u just get an SUV?
@@christopherroy9360 suvs tend to have sucky cargo space compared to minivans.
@@christopherroy9360 Because sliding doors can't be slammed into the car next to yours in a parking lot or the garage wall by kids overzealous to get where they're going.
The middle seat sliding all the way back makes perfect sense. It improves comfort for 3 adults riding in the middle row as the shoulders aren't up against each other. Another logical reason would be having two adults outboard and an infant in the middle, with them back a little further they are easier to interact with, being able to face them.
I see it as most flexible 2nd row seating for when you have 5 large passengers and want the 3rd row down for max luggage space. It seems the outer 2nd row seats can be spread wider apart leaving even more room in the middle for feet as all 3 have more shoulder room. What's not clear is if all 3 second row seats can be in line al the way back as far as the outer ones can travel.
I love the idea of it doubling as a table for up to 5 people in the 2nd and 3rd rows when you are only taking 7 people, and it is removable (as are the other 2nd row seats, so you can have a more easily accessible 3rd row if you want to make different trade offs in passenger seats and luggage space ).
Sometimes I just want seating for 2 (1st Row with 3nd row seats removed for maximum cargo space), sometimes I just want 1 extra seat so 3 people can leave the most luggage/cargo space (just 1 second row seat installed and third row folded down, which can easily be changed to 6 people as row 1 with 2, row 2 with 1 seat, and row 3 with 3 seats).
I can't tell you how many times cars with only 5 seats meant we had to take two cars, or leave out a person (really frustrating when we have find an available bigger vehicle to rent for any longer trips)
Great as a Plug-in Hybrid option since I hope to never again purchase a car that isn't at the very least a hybrid, and I am in favor of the electric AWD to get just a enough extra traction for Maine winters (especially if it has regenerative capability on the rear drive). Mechanical AWD may be better for some but is a seemingly a lot more expensive to repair (and more likely to need repair if you put on over 306,000 miles like I did on my Prius. Even just the FWD on my early Prius had enough regenerative capability to slow the car on long downhill runs letting the brake pads to last 275,000 miles. They would have lasted even longer if I had kept the sliders properly greased, since the right front inside pad took the full braking load on that wheel since the stuck slider kept the outer pad from making full contact. I hadn't noticed it since you can't see it from the outside and I only saw the inside when I replaced tires.
This minivan definitely amazes me
I think this one looks better than the sienna but to me the sienna is more practical. I live up north, having all wheel drive drive is really good because of snow and hybrid is good because gas prices are going way up.
Hyundai engines will go out some where between 50k-75k miles.
amazing reliability.
@@business-us1zl my 2015 sonata with 150k disagrees
@@business-us1zl Not true. If you take care of your car and stop believing others when they say Hyundai/Kia/Genesis is unreliable, it will last. My mother has a 2013 Kia Optima with over 100k miles.
@@business-us1zl that’s a bunch of cap
I’ve been watching reviews on this MVP and you by far have one of the BEST! Thank you from Hawaii 🤙🏽
I saw one yesterday and was shocked at how awesome it looked!
I believe the 2nd row seats can be fully removed then flipped around (left to right, and right to left) and reinserted to face backwards to make a face to face limo like backseat.
I saw that too, but wonder if that's blocked in the US market for some reason as no US reviewer has mentioned it.
@@TheAndyCAK could be because of safety reasons. I could see it honestly.
Didnt the honda odyssey previously have that as a feature before
@@lozano41182 I don't think so. But way back in the 90s the egg shaped Toyota Previa you could spin the second row seats to face rearwards. I think current US safety regulations do not allow for this type of feature. What I really like is European camper vans like the Benz Marco Polo or VW California where you can rotate the front seat to face rearwards, and set up a table in between the front and rear seats so the whole family can sit together around a dining/gaming table!
I stopped a guy in a parking lot a week ago that had one of these. It was either a '22 or '23. It did have the seat in the middle row that you could turn around. I am definitely interested in one of these. I looked at his Carnival on 6/16/23
For those with many kids in carseats, I saw lower anchors on all 3 middle row seats and the two outboard third row seats with rear tethers for all three third row seats. This would let you install up to 6 carseats if kids can magically teleport through the middle row. So far this is the only vehicle that I have seen with so many options for child seating. A family with four children could take out the passenger side middle seat and fit two children in the middle row and have two in the back with potentially enough room for an adult to join them if the carseats are narrow enough. This is remarkably uncommon in three row vehicles!
Other than the Pilot, I agree! 2 thumbs up from a car seat technician!
Yeah, something I dislike about my Pacifica is for some reason, the latches in the third row are now equally on each side. One is firmly in the right seat and the other is right next to it, sort of straddling the middle and left seat. This makes it pretty much impossible to squeeze a third, non-car-seat person because the two car seats wind up taking most of the space. It's a weird design choice that bothers me a lot.
i have a 2007 sportage and still running strong, can't wait to get this one, is really amazing!!!
I'm exhausted after watching this. Excellent and thorough review and a very stylish design.
This sells a lot here in the Philippines. It's probably the second-best-selling Minivan here after the Honda Odyssey (Asian version). We have the diesel variant as well, since diesel is much cheaper than gas here.
Edit: And yes, our Odyssey has Ottoman seats. The Alphard sold here also has them. We require those in our minivans. :)
In Canada, Kia markets this as a LUV (?!): Life Utility Vehicle. Very appropriate in my opinion.
That’s awesome
So cute love that
@@herbieonline_ You mean LUV that
Low utility vehicle
Meh😒
Hyundai and Kia are killing it with their car designs lately. They even made a good looking minivan.
They are killing with their designs but the option packaging sucks!!!
@@brianb7844 Agreed. I DESPISE that if I choose to get a nav system, I'm forced to buy one of the idiotic vista roofs.... in Florida! I hate them.
Finally! :) been waiting for this review for a while
Alex with the subtle flex that he definitely lift weights. "Oh it's just 60lbs no big deal"
60 lbs 😆 is nothing.. gone are the days my child was 60 lbs and want me to throw them in the air.. 75 lbs that's a different story
@@joebrown9621 k.
If I did that I'd be like "oh yeah no biggie" than flop to the ground haha! In all honesty though if you're trying to get healthier all power to ya including you if you see this Alex
how about carbon fiber seats cause they're light
It's not nothing but do note that a 60lb object that's an awkward shape or doesn't have good grab handles is significantly more difficult then something with good grips and easily manuervable shape.
@22:18 deer. Anyway, for those that say they do not like minivans, try driving one. They're roomy and for me, much more better to drive around than a truck or SUV. I love the space. I never feel crowded like I do in some trucks and cars. You can fit more stuff in a mini van than a truck. Usually, the minivan has more tech as well.
I want one of these so badly, it's my attainable dream car right now. The only problem is I want both cooled seats and removable middle row, and that's not an available configuration. I'll 'settle' for a Pacifica limited, but commend Kia for building this gorgeous machine.
In south Korea, middle row cooled seats are equipped. It starts with 34,142 Dollar(noblesse trim). Maybe you can modify middle row.
@@snowball_ing The combination I want is cooled front seats, and removable middle row seats from the lower trim levels. I love the middle seats in the SX trim but I need a flat floor too often
@@mikeomgwtf Between lower trim and high trim, their differences could be modified after repair shops or DIY, but I'm not sure whether the repair shop is near to you. If you really want to, check the disassembly manual for Carnival. In korea, one of youtuber makes base trim Elantra to highest trim with buying and installing part of highest trim.
Another fantastic review filled with facts and impressions.
This is by far the best looking Van to be ever sold in US.
Such damn luxury feel with top notch reliability.
Kia/hyundai/genesis are hitting home runs out of the park with every new vehicle or the refresh they coming up with.
I would be worried if I was Honda/Toyota tbh.
Best review channel. Thank you for still giving us your honest opinion, without being afraid of getting cut from the next press release.
I’ve never seen anyone talk that long without inhaling.😁
My God right? Like I should hold my breath just listening to him.
It must be all that fresh mountain air. Otherwise, I'd say very skilled editing!
They sell heaps in Australia...by miles the leading 'mini van'. Also been called carnival here for years.
I think you have missed what Kia have done here Alex. I have read quite a few reviews from different countries and they are all blown away with the appearance and functionality. Maybe its an odd USA thing...the minivan stigma. People here just see it for what it is....a very attractive , safe, comfortable vehicle for larger families.
I find your “out-of-ten” scoring system for trunk comfort much more understandable than whatever goes on in the ambiguous DougScore.
Having actual roller bags stuffed in there for a visual also helps a great deal for real-world practicality. Suspiciously measured "cu ft" numbers provided by manufacturers can be VERY misleading.
DougScore is designed for people that wear two t-shirts only.
@@JoesBrandonomics lol
IF this vehicle actually had "Stow-N-Go" 2nd row seating and a HIDDEN sliding door track, ala Chrysler minivans for decades, the Pacifica would be toast. Having owned several Chrysler minivans, I can't underestimate the value of Stow-N-Go seating. Not only practical for QUICK trips to the lumber yard, but also offering abundant "In Floor Storage" when used as a 7 passenger vehicle or vacationmobile.
I've owned 2 Hyundai Sonatas and a Kia Niro and have been thoroughly impressed by the Korean engineering and amenities. BUT for a truly multipurpose functionality vehicle, the Chrysler balance in their minivan designs is hard to beat. Their patent/s on Stow-N-Go technology must be close to expiring soon.
Good place to hide Christmas presents when the seats are up
I think the minivan competitors don't implement stow and go not due to any patent, but rather they prioritize 2nd row seat comfort over stowability. Stow and go seats need to be thinly padded by design, and since most people don't carry cargo that often, Honda/Toyota and now Kia have continued to go with removable 2nd row seats over stow and go.
My colleague did buy a Pacifica specifically for stow and go, but interestingly not for storage. He has 3 young children and the van is used for drop off and pick up from daycare. So he puts one child seat in the 2nd row and two seats in the third row, then stows the other 2nd row seat into the floor so it makes is super easy to get all 3 kids into their seats. Then when you do need to carry another passenger, it is easy to pop the seat out from below the floor.
@@tren133 I owned a 2014 FULLY loaded Dodge Grand Caravan Crew with cloth seats. I've ridden substantial distance sitting in the 2nd row seats, (which are heated by the way) and didn't find them particularly uncomfortable at all, nor would I say that they are "Thinly Padded". I've certainly ridden in cars which are far worse.
@@claytonroot806 the Caravan i have rented for years plus my brother owned one if u think those seats are comfortable then I'm going to ask u to step up into a Sedona those plush 2nd row seats are luxury in comparison to 😁 even nicer the Dodges first row.. even the older Caravans had more comfortable seats b4 stow n go
My LX 2023 has complete stow and go.
Such a fun and honest review. Can tell you enjoyed making this one. Thanks Alex - helps a lot with our next purchase!
I’m here for the minivan reviews! Bring on that comparison video 😄
Minivan, never understood that term from the US. It’s a people mover. A mini van would be a “mini” van, like a transit connect.
@@zoltrix7779 Wikipedia says the term "minivan" was coined to avoid confusion between vans like the Ford E-Series, Dodge RAM Van, and the Chevrolet Van because they were just called vans back then.
I have to commend Kia for really thinking about what type of product they're putting into the market and how it correlates to their brand ethos. This Carnival is such a bold, stylish, and unique offering in the class. I would not be surprised if the SX Prestige becomes as sought after as the Telluride SX-L. Minivan buyers often spring for loaded versions, plus they're not always for young families. Seniors love them. The incandescent bulbs in the rear bumper are the only things spoiling the fun.
Info: the reason for middle seat track going far back is when rear seats are turned facing each other, center seat is folded down slid back and used as a table for 2nd and 3rd row riders.
What do you mean rear seats turned facing each other? Which row, 2nd or 3rd? Do you have a link that shows this feature, a video or a picture?
@@koraytugaythis is from a quick Google search. Scroll through the photos. 2nd row are turned facing 3rd row. It's actually my favorite feature but I believe not available with the SX
www.carscoops.com/2020/08/kia-fully-reveals-2022-sedona-in-korea-as-all-new-carnival/
@@SupreemSPGamer Interesting, this is not mentioned in any reviews and I did not see it mentioned in Kia webpage either.. Thank you, I wish I could find a video that mentions this feature and know which trims allows this.
@@koraytugay I've seen a couple actually, if I come across it, I'll post it
@@koraytugay ruclips.net/video/gkX5q-4wczo/видео.html
I wasn't looking for mini-van reviews, I am not in the market for mini-vans, I am a single male who drives a Hybrid-Sedan. I could not stop watching this video. Very well presented, and VERY detailed.
Subscribed.
I keep coming back to the channel even though I'm not in the market for a car. I like your calm presentation style. As for this car, storage and fitting adults is important. This might be a good van for my parents. My dad had knee replacement surgery this year. He's tall, so not having to climb down into his sedan would be nice. He misses the towing capacity. Now that one of my three brothers is married, if we all go somewhere together, it would be nice to fit several adults comfortably.
The middle seat goes back that far so that you can use the cup holders on the back when the second row is fully reclined.
I love your super technical analysis of each aspect, really helps with comparisons!
Another reason for the center seat to slide that far: if you have three wide-shouldered adults, you could slide the middle seat back a bit so there is more shoulder/hip room for everyone
I own it. I LOVE IT. Period. Tough to get though. Took the color I could get, not what I wanted, because, according to all of the Kia Dealers here in TX, 85% sell before they make it to the dealers. GIANT inside, but put it in Sport mode, and it handles like a Mercedes coupe.
10:26 That's hilarious. It's like the reverse McLaren sitting.
What I don't understand is why the middle seat goes back so far but the 2nd row lounge seats in the top trim do not. I have the current gen Sedona with those lounge seats and they are very nice, but they only go back enough for someone I'd say 5'9" or under to be able to fully stretch out. If it went back another 6 to 9 inches a 6 footer would be able to fully stretch his legs. I had assumed the reason it didn't go back so far on my van is the seat belts are attached to the B-pillar so it is not safe for the seat to go back so far, but on the new van the belts are attached to the seat itself, so you'd think they could now make the seat go back even further.
Alex offers fantastic reviews. .I love the interior size charts since I am 6'3 and have kids. Interior space is so important
It’s a kind of vehicle that I wouldn’t own but would definitely wanna ride in one.
Dude, love your commentary on vehicles. Very informative and to the point. Love that.
I’m not really into minivans but if I ever had kids and needed one id definitely be interested in this one. It’s pretty sweet
As usual, Alex hits the ground running with what is important like the seating configuration. Thank you!
Here we get it with diesel engine that gets 40mpg, and honestly this looks way too good for being a minivan.
I used to say I would never buy a KIA. Never. The brand name was not exuding quality. Their new is terrific and their products are very nice and attractive. I would now buy a KIA. Good work!
It shows the way Ford should have gone with the second gen Flex.
Thanks Alex. You’re my go to reviewer when I need the facts on new cars. ❤️🙏🏼
This is an excellent introduction to the new Kia Sedona, er Carnival. Love the cargo testing and description, as well as the seat demos.
Great news: Every trim has acoustic windshield and front window glass.
lol
Greetings from South Korea. To answer your question, the reason the 2nd row middle seat slides so far back is for its use as a drinks table. Stay with me. The left and right 2nd row middle seats are taken out during a car camping trip or beach party. You take the left seat around to the right side of the car, and the right seat around to the left side of the car and install the seats backwards. You will know when they are installed properly when you see the green light come on at the bottom of the seat. With the turned seats, and middle seat down as a table...you now have a drinks lounge or conversation booth in the back of the car. You're welcome!
Fully agree with Alex that the SX trim should be able to option some of the Prestige trims features. Wish all trims had the cool sognature lighting on them. The Carnival looks stunning. I love that it has a NA V6 and the interior as well. Solid offering to fight against the Pacifica which is also great
The reason for the large trunk in the US is due to the fact that in Korea you can get a Carnival with 4 rows for up to 11 passengers.
I seen that but how ??? Do people fit?
@@Smileydudekxy actually it’s rather ingenious but at the same time very simple. They simply do away with the trunk when the 4th row is being used. So that row is right up against that tailgate. The next clever trick has to do with that very long center seat track that we see on the 8 passenger North America model. In the 11 seater models, that track is shared by the middle seats of the 2nd and third row. And in the 9 and 11 seater models all the seats in the second and third row can move backwards and forwards. Thus allowing the passengers to better allocate the available combined legroom.
Kinda like a Toyota hiace
Really awesome review! The longest video yet about carnival 2022 on youtube!!!
I absolutely love your presentation! This is my dream vehicle! Looking forward to buying one this Spring actually.
I have been waiting for carnival review from Alex, awesome review as always. Could you also include the drivers seating position, reliability in your next video. The only thing which I miss is the sunroof in SX.
In hot climates I will take cloth over imitation leather any day.
But wouldn’t the seats soak up sweat in that case?
@@supriyasou3722 Yes. Cloth seats suck in any climate. And when your kid leaves a Kit Kat on your cloth seat in the summer, good luck with that.
I'm with you. I hate sticking to the seats. Cloth breathes much better.
@@supriyasou3722 "But wouldn’t the seats soak up sweat in that case?" -- No, cloth seats let your skin breath, so (1) initial perspiration evaporates, and (2) because your skin can breath, it stops perspiring as badly as it would be on polyvinyl chloride, or whatever vile plastic they use for the 'imitation leather'.
@@mountainhobo Interesting. So getting dirty is the only concern then.
Alex, I'm surprised you didn't mention the other class-exclusive safety oriented feature, the blind view camera. Anything to differentiate minivans from one another would be very helpful, especially when it comes to convenience and safety. Might as well show the 360 cam too. And in the 8 passenger, just out of curiosity, can you mount the second row seats backwards so you can set up a lounge? Then you could push the middle seat way into the middle in it's down position to use as a table.
If you're referring to a camera for the blind spot it's really not necessary if you set the side mirrors correctly.
Good call!
@@baddriversofcolga as cool as the camera is, the feed is also placed outside the line of sight, especially since you're not looking at your gauge cluster when you change lanes
@@ShaiyanHossain Exactly. It's a solution for a problem that already has a better solution that's built into every car.
With all off the douchebaggery Hyundai has done and still is doing to their own customers, I'll never again buy anything from them or their sub brands.
Powered rear doors are extremely underrated, IMO. And this looks great. Only missing items are wireless Carplay and AWD.
This would be great with a solid AWD system
You don't really need it (with very little exceptions). All you are doing is carrying extra weight and parts that increase maintenance. And I live in Canada... good snow tires do the trick.
And it takes up trunk space, and axel makes floor not flat. You don't need AWD to drive in snow. If you don't drive with winter tires, you don't need awd period
Tell that to my driveway in February. All wheel drive is a must in Pennsylvania.
@@nickposten4847 In MN here and unless your driveway is icy (which is bad no matter what) then a set of snow tires works well if not better than AWD. They have the added benefit of aiding in stopping in slick conditions as well. I've got an Outback on All Seasons and a Honda Fit on snow tires in the winter and both work well--in fact the factory standard All Seasons on the Subaru were an detriment prior to them wearing out and getting a better set.
There hasn't been a *MINI* van in the US market for many years. The last one I'd consider a *MINI* van is Mazda5.
When you compare it to the 9 to 15 passenger vans, this is mini.
turn signals on the bottom bumper should be ILLEGAL !!!!
The name Hardik should be illegal! 😱 and I love the blinker being on the bottom bumper. Looks better that way.
@@jennad4093 great answer
Just saw one of those in person next to me at a stoplight. Didn’t recognize it till I saw the logo on side and thought “whoa now that’s different”
This is the very first minivan that doesn't look ugly.
In other markets, the second row of the 8 passenger models are reversible, though I'm not sure if they are for the American market.
I just bought the Kia Grand Carnival GLS Plus with 11 Seats in Pakistan. Made here by Kia Lucky Pakistan Motors. It’s the most SUV looking Van.
Its crazy how big of a difference powertrains are in minivans. You have the sienna which is a hybrid, the pacifica has a plug in hybrid and most have v6 engines which is nice.
here i am on a monday, fully engaged in a minivan review. great work alex
I really like what KIA is doing with their current exterior designs.
Every reviewer is also forgetting that the middle seats also be rotated to face back and one can install a rear facing seat on the center seat with the seat turned around.
ruclips.net/video/Nn4PG84wKIA/видео.html
What is with Hyundai/Kia's love with putting the rear turn signals into the bumper? It looks so cheap
Here in northeast all of their turn signals are covered in snow and salt.
Terrible and not a safe design
Looking forward to that mega-comparison! Halarious video today, Alex! You rock!
This was a great review. We have a Palisades Calligraphy and just love it. We are looking for in SUV type vehicle to replace my Durango Citadel, but didn't want to spend 50+ thousand dollars for it. I really like the folding second row and it still leaves room for luggage and golf clubs.
I will never buy a minivan with the spare tire mounted underneath the vehicle. I saw that become a real problem with a Chrysler minivan where we had to cut the cable and dig the spare out because it was froze to the bottom. This was not an easy thing to do because of the small ground clearance on the typical minivan. The Honda Odyssey has really got this feature figured out with where they store the spare inside away from the elements.
Interesting vehicle. I'll wait to see if it later comes in a PHEV.
10:35 The reason for the extreme sliding center second row is for shoulder room and child seat room. Three across can sit comfortably in the second row, with shoulder clearance with the sliding center seat, should you fold the third row for a good amount of cargo.
Interesting. I also thought this would be a good way to give the rear seat a center table/cup holder/ console if it was folded down and shoved all the way back. It definitely is unusual and I’m sure you would find many reasons to appreciate it.
Wow, very nice !!! Well done Kia!
Love the new kia badge!
I'm not a big fan. The current one is boring but classier imo. They should have just went with the stylized K that you get in Korean market Kia models that they've been using forever.
not a fan of it, I like KIA cars but I feel they would sell much more cars if they would change their branding, and this new logo is on the wrong direction imho
I don't really understand how a tall SUV is "cooler" than a much more efficient minivan or a stylish wagon. Minivans are excellent vehicles that do a solid job of carry people and cargo and more time than not does it better than crossovers and SUVs. The buying public has lost its mind to think SUV/crossovers are cooler than minivans.
By far the best and most professional car review channel on RUclips
always liked your reviews on cars.
Lol ..I don’t even like mini vans but wow 😳 these vehicles are ballin 😎 awesome 👏
Great video 👍🏾
KIA is killin it, great work!
if you noticed the new logo, there's no i. Kia more like kn
I really enjoyed your review 😁. This was an amazing, especially with 2 trims on hand. Thank you for your hard work.
This thing should be called a Genesis. This absolutely blows the Odyssey away
I saw somewhere that the second row can face backwards but I haven’t seen it in any review videos. Since the second row can entirely come out, can the seats be put back in facing backwards?
The seats come with usb charging plugs too so I’m curious on how it’s possible to make the seats removable, reversible AND apparently contact free powered. I tried accessing the owners manual from Kia but says it’s unavailable.
ruclips.net/video/fcsBdN-VCU8/видео.html - the review you were looking for
Not in the US unfortunately
Phenomenal review, as always, Alex! Great-looking vehicle and incredible seating arrangement!
Bought one. Best new car purchase ever. Toyota owner here all my life and tell you this vehicle is amazing. It's basically a telluride with mini van doors. It nothing like a mini driving wise or look wise. It looks like an suv with mini van space. Sexy af in panthera metal..
It's look amazing, interior is like a Mercedes Benz and drives like a Lexus over bump. 12 inch crisp high resolution infotainment screen on the Ex and above and top notch back up camera.
I went to actually buy a Toyota highlander or a Sienna and I stop by the Kia dealership also which was across the road... I test drive everything and I couldn't stop thinking about the Kia Carnival.
The highlander was way too small for my needs and the sienna transmission was jerky, infotainment system was small and back up was low resolution and grainy.
Man this a home run and everyone is asking what it is because inventory limited and they are about to mark up price because of the demand... I was lucky to grab it the same day came off the truck..
Carnival also means sexy party around the world...
Yes I tested a Sienna back in the day, and the backup camera is hilariously grainy, and I guess hasn't improved with the new van. Sienna was still a very nice and reliable vehicle though. I ultimately ended up getting a 2016 Sedona but only because dealers were not able to move them so steep discounts were available. There were 2016 models still sitting on my local dealer lot way into the summer of 2017, and we were able to negotiate the price down from $41,000 MSRP all the way to $30,000!
Enjoy the new van! Looking at the reviews I think most of the platform and engine drivetrain is largely carried over from the previous gen. The layout for instance is identical to the one I have, but of course all the tech is updated and the middle seats finally are now able to be removed. I think the good thing is this likely means the new van will not have that many teething issues and reliability should be good.
@@tren133 The tides have turn with hyundai and Kia breaking sales records.. I never thought in a millionaires I would have bought a Kia because I am a Toyota guy..
The first Kia dealership marked it up 3k-5k because it selling like hot cakes and I wasn't willing to pay a mark up price.
The second Kia dealership, I confirm the internet sales price with dealership before I went and it was exactly at retail.
The day I went in they sold all 3 of their inventory and mines just came off the truck and I had grab right away...
Love our Sedona and love all the new features in this carnival...
the base model grill reminds me of a land cruiser prado i like it too.. The out going Sedona 2nd row seat are as large as the Pacifica first row.. The 2nd row in the Pacifica are a small and thinly padded if that's the case the Carnival seats should be way more comfortable than the Pacifica for adults especially if you have to be seated for more than 35 minutes
Yeah, too much weight seems to be put on the stow and go seats. In real life you will need the extra room almost never. Having comfortable seats that you will use 99.9% of the time and suffer removing them once a year beats having uncomfortable seats 99.9% of the time just to make that one time a year "remove" easier. But people overvalue what they don't need and undervalue what they actually need. Go figure...
@@deniscdyck i totally agree..
well said
Kia should put the regular second row door INSTEAD OF SLIDE DOORS and this will be great seller as full size SUV
Hi Alex! @10:20 something, I think the reason why the middle seat of 2nd row can go further back is because you can use that as a table. You can turn turn the 2nd row seat to face the back and have like a lounge where 2nd row faces 3rd row and use the middle seat as a table. Good review! Im looking for a minivan and im torn between the carnival and all its seating features or the sienna with AWD and hybrid. Hoping 2022 sienna will have seating like the carnival or 2023 carnival can offer AWD.
Much better looking than any other minivans out there
I wish Honda and Toyota will take page from Kia’s book. I’m a loyal Japanese brand, but Hyundai and Kia are killing it!