every time i watch this i just start sobbing uncontrollably… i especially love the detail of the screen fading to white instead of black at the end of the movie to represent the “end” of the white swan
Same. I think it's beautiful also. I genuinely, from my heart, think this is a "happy" ending also. She attains perfection with her craft which has been the primary goal of her life, mother/daughter relationship feels like she escapes from right at end. Then acceptance by the audience and other dancers. I think it is "human transcends suffering" to make the suffering itself beautiful. Amazing film.
I wholeheartedly agree, I didn't expect to cry at the ending. But Nina's journey really hit home with me, the ending and her inner struggles really hit me at my core.
Not gonna lie, this movie is a hidden gem. It is sooooooo damn perfect and terrifying in its own way. The pursuit of perfection, is a road to destruction
thats not what its saying. its saying the pursuit of perfection is something that transcends life. most people live their entire lives without ever fulfilling their dreams or achieve any of their goals and they die full of regrets. (kinda like nina's mom). but nina rather than choosing to go out with a wimper chose to die in a blaze of glory. thats why she says 'it was perfect" as in "I have no regrets". yes she is technically destroying herself but it was a beautiful destruction that most people can only dream of
Hidden gem? Portman got best leading actress at the Oscar’s for this. The movie and director were also nominated, alongside cinematography and film editing. This is the opposite of a hidden gem. It’s just a popular movie.
What left me so shocked about this ending is that we never know if she truly stabbed herself and died because we've only ever seen this movie from Nina's point of view, never someone else. We've seen her degenerate into this competitive freak that is a white and black swan irl so much that for a bit we're convinced Lily is some kind of villain while she was always chill and just doing what she's told to do. If she was actually fine, this ending wouldn't be the first time she's ever fantasized about someone dying or getting killed either.
@@Werkvuurin that case that’s a positive view that tells more about the viewer than the real story. White swan finally die to become free of that mother’s idealization.
Yeah that's what I like too! And I relate to Nina a lot that I would think the same of people like Lily because she is like that dark part she was repressing and it's soo frustrating to see when someone else is comfortable being like that
Well, it is as such one of the most profitable films and was even nominated for 5 Oscars at the time and among them for Best Picture (A Biggest Surprise for a Horror/Horror Movie), in addition to Natalie's multiple wins for her performance (Of course she also won the Oscar)... It already has the recognition it deserves, although I agree with you that it deserves a little more
The thing is that there is 2 scenario either she died like the white swan did sacrifice her life to have this perfect moment, or it's her white swan personality that died and she's still alive but now she's reborn as a mix of the 2 swans
In the end of the film she was able to overcome her insecurities and stopped looking outside of herself for approval and stopped trying to convince others or her perspective. She learned to validate herself and realize she was perfect as she was. She went from scared, people pleasing little girl to going though a violent and painful maturing process to became a strong, self possessed woman. She understood that having strengths and weaknesses, and being human, is what makes her perfect. In the end of the movie she didn't care about the applause or Thomas's approval, she accepted that her own opinion of herself, and how she feels about herself is what's most important.
I feel you but… as a performer I know that there is no way she could have seen her mom from that distance and the lights and also the audience is in the dark… so I can’t help but think that whenever I watch the scene 😅
Me too. I love this movie, and The Menu, because it gives this feeling and ideology of going mad for one’s own creations and art. I’m an artist myself, and I almost want to test myself to see how far I’ll go if I just truly commit. Will I lose myself, my relationships, my mind? Will I become an addict? Will what I create be worth it?
I feel like the ending means because shes dying perfect no one can ever surpass her because shes dying perfect, or it counts as the end of her dancing career because there’s this quote about a dancer dies twice, and that the first death will always be more painful.
And we know what happened to Beth. In the end Toma called Nina his little princess, she had to die perfect to break the cycle otherwise she would've lived the life of Beth
@@thevoidstaresback4464it could also mean she k!lled only the white swan i.e. she survived and since she has attained perfection, she leaves ballet and does something that no longer hurts her. She breaks the cycle by not meeting the same fate as Beth and choosing her own life path as being a woman or a black swan also means making your own decisions.
I love the theory that this final moment truly marks the death of Nina’s innocence. I think it’s poignant that she dies(?) as the white swan, literally laying on a mattress (death bed). Another point is that the blood stain on her dress looks like that of a period stain which adds to the death of childhood and innocence. After all, the whole point of the movie is the messy transition between the white swan (innocence/childhood) into the black swan (maturity/adulthood) so it would only make sense for the white swan to die at the end of the movie. Even if Nina survived, she will never be the same person again.
I saw this movie when I was 15 cried then I’m almost30 now I haven’t seen the movie since 2010 just rewatched it and I’m crying even more this movie relates me to as an adult more then ever the strive for a perfect life career to please everyone life isn’t like that sacrifices has to be made….
Incredible attention to detail at 0:43 and 1:00, you can see the stab wound starting to bleed profusely due to the movements, to the point where it's staining the layers of her costume.
Her death is ambiguous. She might not have died. There's a possibility of that. She might have been saved. In that case, only the white swan died and Nina has finally embraced being the black swan. If Nina survived, she would probably realise that she can choose a better future for herself. She might move out of her mother's house and probably leave ballet or keep it as a hobby while being in a different profession. She would no longer care what Thomas has to say (even in this scene she calls herself perfect, she gives herself her own validation), she wouldn't meet the same fate as Beth.
2:32 Ladies and gentlemen, we hope you enjoyed tonight's performance of Swan Lake by Giscard Rasquin and Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky, featuring the London Symphony Orchestra. Funding for tonight's performance was paid by the Corporation for Public Broadcasting and by generous contributions to your PBS station from viewers like you. Thank you and goodnight....
As much as I like 'Black Swan', there's one thing in the ballet 'Swan Lake' that everybody have forgotten which makes that for me, it's hard to totally appreciate the movie because all the symbolism with the white swan and the black swan doesn't work because the ballet 'Swan Lake' doesn't end like it ends in 'Black Swan'. In the original ending of the ballet, Odette is not the only one who dies. In 'Swan Lake', the Prince (who is named Ziegfried) blames himself for having been totally idiot to let Odile tricks him. He still loves Odette who forgives him and kills herself because she will never be a human again. Ziegfried can't imagine a life without Odette and, also, wants to punish himself. So he kills himself too.
that’s kinda the point. it’s not suppose to have the same ending or even stage design. thomas says that in the beginning. it also would make absolutely no sense since we the audience have no connection to the prince and he has no connection to the story. swan lake isn’t the swan lake we know but NINA’S swan lake.
She chose to die because she pretty much cemented her perfection here and knew she would never reach it again? Or seeing how the former lead dancer ended up comvinced her to end it here before she wound up in the same situation.
I cannot express this enough, but this was not Nina's actual death. It was a metaphor of how she killed her own innocence and she's grieving that loss during the entire scene. Her mom who had a huge part in cocooning her is in the audience and knows this. Her *death* in the end signified a sense of loss of her purity and child-like mentality. This is just my interpretation but much like how she thought she killed the other girl, the other scenes right before her death with the people surrounding her were delusions of grandeur and spectacle. It didn't actually happen. She was now facing the real world.
Stabbed herself before the second act of the ballet during a psychotic break. She didn’t even realise what happened until the start of act 3, the black swan’s costume hid the blood so she’s been bleeding for a while by then. But the show must go on. She must be ‘perfect’. The movie really is excellent and unsettling, you should watch it!
every time i watch this i just start sobbing uncontrollably… i especially love the detail of the screen fading to white instead of black at the end of the movie to represent the “end” of the white swan
Same, for me it’s because I know Nina suffered a lot and by herself too
Same. I think it's beautiful also.
I genuinely, from my heart, think this is a "happy" ending also.
She attains perfection with her craft which has been the primary goal of her life, mother/daughter relationship feels like she escapes from right at end.
Then acceptance by the audience and other dancers.
I think it is "human transcends suffering" to make the suffering itself beautiful. Amazing film.
Glad to know I'm not the only one who cried
I wholeheartedly agree, I didn't expect to cry at the ending. But Nina's journey really hit home with me, the ending and her inner struggles really hit me at my core.
Well that its not original, since it comes from perfect blue. The movie is inspired by perfect blue
Portman was perfect in this role. That final descent of Nina couldn’t have been played better by anyone.
gave me chills
0:36 Are we seriously gonna ignore that PRECIOUS camera movement with the actors!?
The cinematography is on another level in this film
@@sweatydjack4397to this day i rewatch and get the same goosebumps, films are not the same today
It accentuates that she’s really there and feeling it. We get to feel graceful and beautiful and perfect right with her. It’s just masterful.
so lovely 7/4/24
Not gonna lie, this movie is a hidden gem. It is sooooooo damn perfect and terrifying in its own way. The pursuit of perfection, is a road to destruction
thats not what its saying. its saying the pursuit of perfection is something that transcends life. most people live their entire lives without ever fulfilling their dreams or achieve any of their goals and they die full of regrets. (kinda like nina's mom). but nina rather than choosing to go out with a wimper chose to die in a blaze of glory. thats why she says 'it was perfect" as in "I have no regrets". yes she is technically destroying herself but it was a beautiful destruction that most people can only dream of
Hidden gem? Portman got best leading actress at the Oscar’s for this. The movie and director were also nominated, alongside cinematography and film editing.
This is the opposite of a hidden gem. It’s just a popular movie.
hidden gem?
You’re not the sharpest tool in the shed pal 😂
This movie is about schizophrenia
13 years late. And holy fuck, the last 10-15 minutes of the movie were just pure chills.
same
What left me so shocked about this ending is that we never know if she truly stabbed herself and died because we've only ever seen this movie from Nina's point of view, never someone else. We've seen her degenerate into this competitive freak that is a white and black swan irl so much that for a bit we're convinced Lily is some kind of villain while she was always chill and just doing what she's told to do. If she was actually fine, this ending wouldn't be the first time she's ever fantasized about someone dying or getting killed either.
I believe Portman herself has said she believes Nina didn't die, so it's probably up to the viewer to decide.
@@Werkvuurin that case that’s a positive view that tells more about the viewer than the real story. White swan finally die to become free of that mother’s idealization.
Lily is not the villain she just threatens ninas position, it was her hearts desire theres no way she lets go of it
Yeah that's what I like too! And I relate to Nina a lot that I would think the same of people like Lily because she is like that dark part she was repressing and it's soo frustrating to see when someone else is comfortable being like that
The kids ate it
I never cried watching this film, but in my recent rewatch, Nina's mom looking at her daughter completely heartbroken really made me tear up.
Natalie Portman's physical resemblance to the actress who plays her mother is extraordinary. They are identical!
Portman was phenomenal in this movie.
A role to die for.
Litereallly..😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
This movie is a masterpiece and needs more recognition
won like 5 oscars or something. best picture, best actress, best score, best costume design, i think? i this movie was a big deal
valid@@RabidDisposition
@@robertyeah2259 Nope… The movie won just one Oscar for Natalie Portman’s performance…
Well, it is as such one of the most profitable films and was even nominated for 5 Oscars at the time and among them for Best Picture (A Biggest Surprise for a Horror/Horror Movie), in addition to Natalie's multiple wins for her performance (Of course she also won the Oscar)... It already has the recognition it deserves, although I agree with you that it deserves a little more
2:08
[last lines]
Thomas Leroy : Nina, what did you do?
Nina : I felt it. Perfect. It was perfect.
The thing is that there is 2 scenario either she died like the white swan did sacrifice her life to have this perfect moment, or it's her white swan personality that died and she's still alive but now she's reborn as a mix of the 2 swans
Nah, she dead.
@@paulsmith9786not dead as confirmed by Darren himself
@@jamescoleman3103when
@@quinbrick8861he’s talking about his drug dealer named Darren, so you know it must be true.
In the end of the film she was able to overcome her insecurities and stopped looking outside of herself for approval and stopped trying to convince others or her perspective. She learned to validate herself and realize she was perfect as she was. She went from scared, people pleasing little girl to going though a violent and painful maturing process to became a strong, self possessed woman. She understood that having strengths and weaknesses, and being human, is what makes her perfect. In the end of the movie she didn't care about the applause or Thomas's approval, she accepted that her own opinion of herself, and how she feels about herself is what's most important.
but it did cost her life
Oh and a life-threatening hemorraghing wound, yeah...
That’s not what happened at all. This girl had a complete psychotic breakdown in the end due to her perfectionism and the pressures of success.
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1:20 when she looks at her mother. God! Feels soo deep 😢 I cried
Me too so powerfull
I feel you but… as a performer I know that there is no way she could have seen her mom from that distance and the lights and also the audience is in the dark… so I can’t help but think that whenever I watch the scene 😅
Every single person who has performed at least a poem at elementary school will look to their mother... and I know that feeling. I'd to the same.
“My little princess” he was full of shit after all 😂 ifykyk
he was the worst fr 😂 looking for a girlfriend in the ballet room
@@hoseokismyhope3351 looking for fuck arounds in the ballet room 😂
A performance that you can't tell if it's art or reality..... It was perfect.... The end 🌎💥
I want my « I was perfect » moment
But at what cost tho
Did you watch the same thing I just watched???
Don’t work so hard; no one ever appreciates it.
Have you actually seen the movie? Lmao. She's totally unhinged.
Me too. I love this movie, and The Menu, because it gives this feeling and ideology of going mad for one’s own creations and art. I’m an artist myself, and I almost want to test myself to see how far I’ll go if I just truly commit. Will I lose myself, my relationships, my mind? Will I become an addict? Will what I create be worth it?
I feel like the ending means because shes dying perfect no one can ever surpass her because shes dying perfect, or it counts as the end of her dancing career because there’s this quote about a dancer dies twice, and that the first death will always be more painful.
And we know what happened to Beth. In the end Toma called Nina his little princess, she had to die perfect to break the cycle otherwise she would've lived the life of Beth
@@thevoidstaresback4464it could also mean she k!lled only the white swan i.e. she survived and since she has attained perfection, she leaves ballet and does something that no longer hurts her. She breaks the cycle by not meeting the same fate as Beth and choosing her own life path as being a woman or a black swan also means making your own decisions.
She danced so beautifully!!!
It was perfect....perfect
La mejor interpretación de Natalie Portman en su mejor película. Muy merecido su Oscar.
So this is how I die... with thunderous applause.
I felt it... it was perfect.
🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺
I love the theory that this final moment truly marks the death of Nina’s innocence. I think it’s poignant that she dies(?) as the white swan, literally laying on a mattress (death bed). Another point is that the blood stain on her dress looks like that of a period stain which adds to the death of childhood and innocence. After all, the whole point of the movie is the messy transition between the white swan (innocence/childhood) into the black swan (maturity/adulthood) so it would only make sense for the white swan to die at the end of the movie. Even if Nina survived, she will never be the same person again.
I think this one was peak Natalie Portman.
Script was mind bending.
My god this is my favorite movie now
I saw this movie when I was 15 cried then I’m almost30 now I haven’t seen the movie since 2010 just rewatched it and I’m crying even more this movie relates me to as an adult more then ever the strive for a perfect life career to please everyone life isn’t like that sacrifices has to be made….
A masterpiece.
Uno de los finales más gloriosos de la historia del cine. Una cumbre.
Yo salí del cine en shock. Fui solo no sabía que decir ni a quién....
Incredible attention to detail at 0:43 and 1:00, you can see the stab wound starting to bleed profusely due to the movements, to the point where it's staining the layers of her costume.
Her obsession with perfection killed her!
The whole theatre erupted at the movies when I saw this! I bawled my eyes out too
At least she didn’t die from a broken heart
she died for being perfect, she was perfect
Her death is ambiguous. She might not have died. There's a possibility of that. She might have been saved. In that case, only the white swan died and Nina has finally embraced being the black swan. If Nina survived, she would probably realise that she can choose a better future for herself. She might move out of her mother's house and probably leave ballet or keep it as a hobby while being in a different profession. She would no longer care what Thomas has to say (even in this scene she calls herself perfect, she gives herself her own validation), she wouldn't meet the same fate as Beth.
No.
That was another Portman character.
2:32 Ladies and gentlemen, we hope you enjoyed tonight's performance of Swan Lake by Giscard Rasquin and Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky, featuring the London Symphony Orchestra. Funding for tonight's performance was paid by the Corporation for Public Broadcasting and by generous contributions to your PBS station from viewers like you. Thank you and goodnight....
no one cares
@@perxgrine it’s joke
It was perfect
Masterpiece
A mother and a teacher who do not love her, and in the end that was all she wanted
me watching this in class 🤭🎀
god this movie was something. thank you love 2/1/24
As much as I like 'Black Swan', there's one thing in the ballet 'Swan Lake' that everybody have forgotten which makes that for me, it's hard to totally appreciate the movie because all the symbolism with the white swan and the black swan doesn't work because the ballet 'Swan Lake' doesn't end like it ends in 'Black Swan'.
In the original ending of the ballet, Odette is not the only one who dies.
In 'Swan Lake', the Prince (who is named Ziegfried) blames himself for having been totally idiot to let Odile tricks him.
He still loves Odette who forgives him and kills herself because she will never be a human again. Ziegfried can't imagine a life without Odette and, also, wants to punish himself. So he kills himself too.
that’s kinda the point. it’s not suppose to have the same ending or even stage design. thomas says that in the beginning. it also would make absolutely no sense since we the audience have no connection to the prince and he has no connection to the story. swan lake isn’t the swan lake we know but NINA’S swan lake.
Это совершенство!
Im shocked to still remember the scenes of this movie from like 10 yrs ago or even 15 years ago
i think there are 2 ending from this scene. 1. She's dead 2. She gave up on ballet or gave up on strict excercise or the old dancing style.
Me gusta mucho el ballet de el lago de los cisnes
... it was perfect ...
U n f o r g e t t a b l e E n d
Um ótimo filme, muito bom!
Mon préférée 😻
Did no one think it was alarming when they saw her bleeding on the stage?
Or did everyone think it was part of the show ?
la fin est manifique .Est elle est vraiment morte ou pas ?
Oui, elle est morte :(
Pour sa l’art
Le cygne blanc et son innocence son morts pas la ballerine en elle même c'est symbolique
@@kiracrystal No she actually died, the swan dance itself is symbolic of her struggles with perfection. She achieved it at the cost of her own life.
@@ninanimble3883 I believe the director said she didn't die, it was her innocence and old self that died.
The last line genuinely gave me chills, holy shit
She chose to die because she pretty much cemented her perfection here and knew she would never reach it again? Or seeing how the former lead dancer ended up comvinced her to end it here before she wound up in the same situation.
PARCONTRE C ETAIT EXTRAORDINNAIRE ET MANIFIQUE
This captures soemthing even a book couldn’t write
I firmly believe Nina's mother played a part in her down spiral 100%
And this is why you should never go full swan.
😂😂😂😂
😭❤
I cannot express this enough, but this was not Nina's actual death. It was a metaphor of how she killed her own innocence and she's grieving that loss during the entire scene. Her mom who had a huge part in cocooning her is in the audience and knows this. Her *death* in the end signified a sense of loss of her purity and child-like mentality. This is just my interpretation but much like how she thought she killed the other girl, the other scenes right before her death with the people surrounding her were delusions of grandeur and spectacle. It didn't actually happen. She was now facing the real world.
Where did the wound come from?
she stabbed herself with a shard from the mirror mistakenly thinking she was stabbing her other self
she embraced her shadow as jung would say
I want to know is she really dead in the end of the movie or she is not because i couldn't understand what happend at the end😅?
She died. Nina stabbed herself in the stomach and was bleeding out for the entire final stretch of the performance.
@@yourstepdad7285 thanks brother
I was today years old when i found out she died at the end
1:33 me every day after work
Why is she bleeding?
Stabbed herself before the second act of the ballet during a psychotic break. She didn’t even realise what happened until the start of act 3, the black swan’s costume hid the blood so she’s been bleeding for a while by then. But the show must go on. She must be ‘perfect’.
The movie really is excellent and unsettling, you should watch it!
Esta parte me traumatizó😢
(Jan 2024)
Diving1:31
I was perfect2:10
The ending was disturbing as fuck
What did we learn from this??? That nina only had 1 role. Upcoming swan lake.
Isn't this seppuku, the ritual suicide of Japanese samurai?
lol why is her mom crying? shouldn't she be happy that her daughter is putting on a great performance?
I think she knew that she was dying
those weren’t tears of sadness but of seeing her daughter on stage
@@alazjaw.8968Those were definitely tears of sadness. She didn't even want Nina to be there that day.
“I was perfect”
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2:04
"I was perfectly stupid."
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