BEYOND THE SEA | Black Mirror's Bleakest Episode Ever?
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🎬 In one of Black Mirror's most shocking episodes of all time, Beyond the Sea takes Aaron Paul and Josh Hartnett into a battleground of heartbreak and rage. The spaceship they work on just may very well run on Nightmare Fuel...
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I've a question with regards to horror movies- have you ever watched Malignant? Or plan to do a review on it?
The mindset of "I suffered, so you should suffer as well" is something that frightens me to my core.
**cough** the boomer mentality **cough**
I mean, that's why anyone is unkind, right? I feel pain, feel my pain.
Some just want to watch the world burn, some are sadistic, and some just don't care if they cause pain.
Yes, some are unkind because they suffered and want others to suffer, but that's not always the case. Or at least, that's how I view things, at least.
@@labyrinthgirl17 nicely put!
I don't think it's really quite that simple. To strip David's decision making and artistry away from the character is gross negligence, the episode made very clear what type of person he is.
I got the feeling that Cliff wasnt always distant with his family, only that he was distant because he didnt feel right being intimate using his replica. David seemed so much more comfortable in the replica of himself.
agreed. i feel like this is reflected in their work ethic. david is always manning the station computers and cameras while cliff is the one who goes out and does repairs with his own body. great writing
i read what lana said when cliff confronted her about the drawings as her feeling that he drifted away from her over the years, becoming more and more distant. i suppose whether or not that started before or after he was replaced by his replica is up to interpretation but it's heartbreaking regardless. (it does also seem that he was a lot less comfortable in his replica in general than david was - david enjoyed living a very public life and talking to strangers asking about him, whereas cliff deliberately moved his family to a remote area and didn't even want to get in touch with the neighbours.)
Ok but one thing I don’t see brought up is that Lana’s face is much more detailed than her body!! So even if we’re to take as fact that he draws from memory, you can tell they never went that far because her face is detailed while the body is just sketched
True omg
Also, skilled artists can sketch a person nude even if they've never seen them undressed because they learn about shapes.
@@ifetayodavidson-cade5613 right! Like it was giving generic female figure lol he ain’t have to jump to conclusions like that
As a teenager (about 20 years ago) I was scolded by the school board for having drawn a naked woman (the detail is that I had never seen her naked. I was a pervert. Nowadays I hardly know how to draw).
He seemed to have a short-ish fuse to start with....his kid and all.
i was fully expecting david to leave cliff stranded out there while he was doing repairs. my thought was that david just stole his replica and took over his life in earth but the twist had be in absolute shock.
Definitely! This was Huw’s initial thoughts in his Honest Review
The ship would have not worked if he did that
And David seemed crazy but not enough to kill hisself for 4 years with cliff’s family
If he let his human body on the ship die, his consciousness would die in the replica. That’s my interpretation
I think it was the best worst option for David. Even if he killed Cliff’s real body, he’d have to live a lie. Can’t paint, can’t be charming, can’t be David. Might as well make the other suffer as much as you I guess.
@@taintedtapper Cliff did his best to make himself and Lana devils to David. He earned his suffering.
The way this episode toyed with the horrors of isolation isn't spoken about enough
This is the important thing. The story is kinda dumb and doesn’t make sense. Why wouldn’t cliffs family be protected? I did enjoy it but my susepension of disbelief wasn’t in place.
Ironically enough I believe this episode was written during our own isolation when the world was lockdown in 2020.
Imagine having a suicidal guy on board with you while you are helpless in a coma while using the replica on earth. How is Cliff not getting scared that David wouldn't kill his motionless body
Because the ship needs 2 people to operate. Killing Cliff would ultimately kill himself
@@sambook2 But he wouldn't care if he is suicidal
I mean they are more or less friends right.. Sure the guy is depressed and suicidal but I dont think there is any reason to think that he would wanna harm Cliff for most of the episode..
Why Cliff is allowed to go on living most of his life on earth, leaving his buddy alone is kinda strange though. Surely the robot bodies were invented to avoid the astronauts suffering from being isolated and now they are fine with one of them being alone and depressed most of the time? Id expect them to ask Cliff to hang around the station atleast a few days a week.
@@MaMastoastagreed but you will notice they don't show "Mission Control" at all. All their messages are through their watch. It is almost as if there is no Mission Control. I guess they wanted to focus only on the two men and their families.
@@kirielbranson4843 Yea it does seem odd, but as you suggested, I think its mostly just limit the scope of the universe
David "making a replica" of his own life by killing Cliff's family is SUCH a good observation
I literally got goosebumps when he said that. WOW! Such a profound and intuitive analysis of this episode. My review on Beyond The Sea.
Absolutely loved this episode. The first act set up the concept perfectly and efficiently, with the twist of David’s family being killed really catching me off guard, the second act was the most predictable but was really enjoyable as it allowed Aaron Paul to show off his acting skills by effortlessly playing two people, and the final act did a great job of showing where this situation would realistically go with a final twist that genuinely caught me off gaud.
I really Hope Aaron Paul gets more work. He's really an amazingly dynamic actor. Hate to be that guy but Breaking Bad showed off just how much range he has and how quickly he can go from one end to the other.
@@wonder_platypus8337 watch him in Black Mirror
He’s easily one of the top 5 most evil villains in the series
That psycho bitch from Crocodile was much worse. The White Bear couple was bad too. The dude from White Christmas was bad too but not as much. He got screwed over but took it too far.
Selma Hayek is definitely my 1# villain. Her atrocious acting I see as an act of aggression. And then for her to be "aware" of herself to the point where we have to endure Hayek attempting to be funny for half the episodes running time, was probably the most offensively villainous things I've ever observed in a show before and offensively unfunny.
@@LibertyRapsher She was supposed to be over the top in that episode, she succeeded. Pretty good actually to be able to pull that off.
@@JesperJoustra - Watching Selmi Hyak doing stand up comedy for half the episode was one of the most painful things I've ever watched. There's a blatantly obvious reason why Hyak doesn't do stand up and isn't known for her comedy, so why the clowns who wrote this episode thought it was a good idea to have Hyak horrifically attempting comedy is anyone's guess. I hear they're starting to use Selma Hyak doing comedy to torture people at Guantanomo Bay, which I'm against all forms of torture, but that's taking things way too far.
Who?
Poor Jesse Pinkman ..they always kill his girls.
,,They can't keep getting away with it!"
You bastards
Honestly the twist at the end where he dosen’t kill him has more significance than if he did
I like the subversion of expectations with a story about replicas in this episode. It's not a narrative about replicas becoming evil or dangerous, but rather a tool used by troubled and misguided people. This is when Black Mirror is at his best: not with the message of technology = bad but the relationship between technology and human failings.
this exactly. i think charlie brooker even said something like this himself, that what he wants to explore isn't how technology itself can be dangerous but how people may use technology for evil. there are a lot of great examples of this throughout the show, like in the entire history of you and in arkangel.
I personally found it not believable enough that the space mission had such little supervision. Especially since the 2 of them seem to be so well known and they are recognised by people commenting about their replicas. But then Cliff gets a call from their command (only time we hear from them) and doesn't get any guidance from them - instead he has to rely his wife. Nothing bad with consulting your wife btw (😄), but I've been on military deployment where situations developed and they will be ON you, coaching you and talking to you. Moreover, only having a crew of 2 people, which seems to be the absolute minimum, is risky all by itself. There's always something that can happen on such a long journey, especially on space walks. They would need at least double the crew IMO and if they don't have the money for 4 replicas, then don't launch a mission.
couldnt agree more. I even noticed that, humans are still human, that possess feelings and emotions. So therefore, there might be some unexpected moments between them two happen, unpredictably. So the room where they live should have a door with password or better security, at least for utter privacy. And especially for moment like this, they still have their own rights to do their own things.
Loved the episode, but found it a bit crazy that they only sent two men on this mission. I mean, to be safe they should send at least 3 people right if not 4.. even if it is a 2 man ship. What if one of them gets sick? Or die in a space accident? It's kind of crazy that there were only 2 of them
I liked it a lot too but the main plot hole that I found was that why didn’t they send their replica version to space so they could stay at earth. Seems like that would make more sense if it was realistic. But I thought it was cool nonetheless
This was definitely the most disturbing black mirror episode I can remember watching
really liked this episode never thought david would kill cliff's family I would have killed him when I got back to the ship we're both dying no way I could live with him after that 🎬
Fr. That’s what my husband said too
Right 😬 especially considering when cliff returns he’ll be arrested!
@@cherie..cherry @jbb8261 Right, but you are both forgetting that they both need each other to man the spaceship. The film alludes to this several times.
No matter how bad both were sabotaging/confused about their lives, they were always in survival mode and set everything aside so that they wouldn't die. Yeah, it sounds horrible and the impulsion to kill might be strong but survival is key. This is what makes the episode so nuanced!
Tbf we never find out what happened after Cliff returned, for all we know he did kill David rightfully so 🤣
@@raymundolopez3816 I’m not forgetting anything. Just saying what my husband said. It’s obvious that he can’t kill him even though he wants to.
For a war film recommendation, I would recommend the classic Das Boot. It’s from the perspective of a German U-boat crew, and it shows the claustrophobic conditions these men had to deal with, knowing that any major damage would result in the cold ocean water flooding in
Josh Hartnett looks fricking amazing. He doesnt age
He does! But his hairdresser be doing him dirty 😮😂
How so no one talks about it Cliff will make it back to Earth, he will be put in prison for killing his familly, because no one will believe that it was not him in his replica.
Would love to see black mirror do a sequel episode sometime
They might have that as some nugget in a future episode. Like some headline in a newspaper article.
@@UnleashTheGhoulsthat’s one thing I don’t like a lot about these anthology shows is that they often ever do a sequel to their story. They just sort of end and we never get a real resolution to it.
wrong. Because you can’t prove who used the replica at either time. Clearly, it’s not DNA restricted so unless he has a shitty lawyer, he can’t be convicted
Eh- I'm good. There was so much wrong with that episode.
Saw this thumbnail before watching the episode and thought "nahhh, we've had super bleak episodes.."
10min into the episode: "yep, this one is DEFINITELY the bleakest!"
The entire episode felt like oh no. Ohh nooo... OH NO! OHHHHH NOOOOOOOOO!!!
i understand that Jesse Pinkman couldn't continue cooking, but then going on a long journey into space didn't really bring him luck either..
This one and the Joan episode actually felt like Black Mirror episodes. This one was easily the best of the season though.
I think the Joan concept was a black mirror concept, but the tone was too lighthearted, it felt like a comedy at times.
It is dumb that man would be smart enough to put man in space and not it’s robot counter part in its stead. I can’t get over it.
in the theater scene it's mentioned that the entire point of the mission is related to life in the space so they actually need to be humans in the space to complete the mission
Part of the mission might be to study the long term effects of being in space on a person.
Also, they might not be entirely confident that the replicas will keep working for the duration of the mission without needing complex repairs. If a replica fails on Earth it can be taken back to the lab it was built in for repairs. If a replica fails in space then you're permanently down a crew member and the mission is doomed to fail.
@@heyangel9526 so why send them so far that they are 3 years away from home and why not abort the mission after what happened?
David finally makes Cliff appreciate his wife and they have the potential to be closer then ever then the last thing lana will experience will be her husband in an unrecognisable psychotic form.
I mean if i returned to the ship after that everyones dying
Crocodile was WAY bleaker than this episode. We saw most the murders in that episode and one of the people was a blind toddler.
There's even more episodes that's bleaker than this episode. Crocodile is by fa the bleakest, but don't forget that soldier episode where they've been shown to execute innocent civilians disguised as horrific beings, then ending with the soldier having his mind wiped to continue with what he's done without guilt, going back to a desolate house disguised to have a loving wife.
@@davidci Oh yeah that was pretty bad too. Some let up in these five episodes would have been nice, like with White Bear, Smithereens (one night stand gets the information she craved), etc.
Oh yeah Hang the DJ ended up actually being a very interesting and positive episode.
No way, 'White Christmas' is the number 1 worst. A guy gets locked in a cabin who doesnt need sleep but is unable to unalive, for OVER ONE MILLION YEARS. (Could have even been closer to 1.8 million as I doubt those crooked detectives would have turned off the click right away. This episode ending is second most horrifying though!!
White Christmas, Crocodile, Shut Up And Dance and Beyond The Sea. Nightmare fuel.
P.S. And the ending of Playtest horrified me too.
David says at one point that Cliff simply doesn't understand what he (David) has gone through, what it feels like to be him. It's pretty understandable and predictable that David would push boundaries while in Cliff's replica, given that he's lost everything and just needs human connection. Cliff's lack of empathy for David, dehumanizing and insulting him, is a large part of what pushes him to kill his copilot's family, so that he'll understand what it's like (which does NOT justify the murders, to be clear, but seems to be part of the episode's message). Pretty surprised to see the OP similarly lacking empathy for David and his motives throughout the whole video.
The bottom line is that Rage doesn't pay off, if Cliff had tried a less angry and more understanding approach to things - it would have ended better for everyone. The situation Cliff finds himself in at the end is that he must work with David to survive, and he also must try to convince David to confess once they returned. Police will be waiting to arrest Cliff when he returns.
i hate david, why did he want to kill cliff's family just so he can share his grief and trauma? honestly sickening
David was traumatised and just had keep on working isolated in a spaceship with seemingly no support or counselling from NASA. His partner would bugger off for a week at a time leaving him alone. Obviously David's brain broke. Most people could not handle that. Then to have a sample of a real life, even though its wrong, and then have it taken away. David had reached peak fuck it. Honestly, if I had been Cliff, there is no way I would left him alone for such long stretches. If my life depends on partners mental health, I would have made alot more effort. I'm not blaming Cliff. Clearly NASA screwed up the whole situation.
David always seemed to have a thing for cliffs wife even when he had a family of his own
You could tell with how he talked about he the first time we see them in space after exiting the replicants
Why? That is the question you are supposed to ask.
"jesse wtf are you doing in space come back WE need to Cook"
I enjoyed this episode I'm actually quite surprised Rory calkin hasn't been featured in one of rob zombie's films great video as always 👍😊
Had Rory been left home alone, half of the town would have ended up dead
I will forever see him as Euronymous from the movie about Mayhem “Lords Of Chaos” 😂 He played this character very similarly.
Beyond The Sea has become the best episode of the entire Black Mirror series. I have 2 more episodes of season 6 to watch, but so far this season has been pretty damn good.
This was such a classic Black Mirror concept; a bleak and unforgiving tech-based storyline with a gut punch that lingers.
The reason why it had to be the humans in space (and not the replicas) has been answered time and again the comments now... However, what isn't clear and seemingly never explained is why Cliff had to take his dog-tag off each time he went outside in the spacesuit? If he'd kept the tag with him, David could not have gone back [without his knowledge] and murdered Cliff's family. That is what I consider the only real plot-hole in what was an otherwise excellent episode/story.
the real questions is how a super advanced robot is answering a rotary phone the year of the moon landing? or how are they instantly transferring from body to robot from whoknowswhere in space to earth? so quickly hes able to get into the robots body, kill his family, and back into his own in about... 10 mins maybe?
probably something to do with metal either interfering with the spacecraft, interfering with the space suit, or possibly being an electrocution risk. he didn’t just take off the tag, but his watch/other metal objects.
@@trashketchum9782 I'm sure that is the reasoning (in the story at least) - however, I wonder if that is case in real life? Do astronauts who are space-walking outside the ship need to remove their watch and any other metal objects? Still seems like a convenient MacGuffin to allow the final act to happen the way it did?
I, for one, don't want everything explained to me. He had to take it off - just tell me that. I don't need a reason. I"m not going to peck at the story like that, how could I ever enjoy it if I did.
I agree this is one of the bleakest episodes ever. It's terrifying how both men change, and specially how David ends up doing what those maniac murderers are so madly against: playing God
but the hippies essentially did the same thing by murdering him in the first place lol
I felt this one could’ve been slightly longer to flesh a few things out more, esp in showing David’s breakdown
Easily the best episode of the season.
Black mirror loves to get all the pieces set up on the chessboard only to start knocking them down one by one.
Great performances from Aaron Paul and Josh Hartnett 👏👏👏
As a person who draws you don’t need to “see” someone naked to be able to draw them naked ..so this was a cop out on the episode , it was long but great in the idea if not the execution
I assumed he never saw her naked but just drew her that way?
@@jamesbell1613 is the most logical thing to think , but because story has to happen and men are irrational beast that never occur to a man who’s smart enough to fix a spaceship! 🥴
@@leoguzman2104 The story was quite dubious with many plot holes and mistakes in the story itself.
Im not sure why its a cop out, it doesnt appear he has ever seen her naked. He charmed her and made a move but she ended up rejecting him.
Also, doesn't Cliff himself know what his wife looks like naked?
Nah pretty mid imo. It kind of recycles the concept of avatar/replica previously seen on USS Callister and Striking Vipers with the difference it never truly develops the concept and has many holes in the context (how did they create replicas? What was the space mission they were? What happened with the "natural order" cultists after the massacre?...). Also although the end was indeed kind of a plot twist it really doesn't deliver for two reasons: the first is that the complete building of the characters pointed that, despite being hurt, all of them actually cared about each other and killing a woman and a child are WAY above his possibilities. The second is that, although it's been widely interpreted as intended to make them both feel the same feeling of loss, its just unrealistic to assume that it could remotely work out since one of those suffered his tragedy on the hands of a psycho club while the other by his crewmate and long time friend.
It just doesn't make sense at all.
I don’t think it’s out of character for the other guy to kill Aaron’s wife. There’s a deep grief that the other man had to deal with up in space because they’ve isolated him. Isolation has a very bad effect on the body. I would look up isolation experiments. The guy felt at home in his robot body. He never felt strange in it. Before the massacre I don’t think he knew what he could do if he did maybe he could’ve made a better attempt to save his family. Now he knows and has nothing to lose which I think was a theme of one of the other episodes or a quote I don’t remember. This episode was never going to go well whether Aaron’s character loaned him his replica or not. This is a story about a man who lost everything who felt powerless and depressed. Honestly didn’t have any real outlet to sort through his feelings effectively. When the other guy killed Aaron’s characters family it wasn’t just feel my pain, it was feel my pain together. A visual representation of what he lost because he felt he wasn’t truly understood. I think this was the perfect set up for the other guy. He knows this woman has children and if walked out to sleep with other women he would look suspicious. The other guy was married to a woman who loved him like his wife did before she died. He could do the body switch to get back to his normal life, but he jumped the gun mostly cause he didn’t ask first and then just did it thinking he could ask for forgiveness. I’m not saying isolation can make a person murderous but coupling that with tragedy and isolation that can’t be a good recipe.
Why couldnt the replicas fly the ship and the originals stay on the earth and transfer the same?
That would make more sense.
Should have been a standalone film
Rory Culkin is also in Swarm…watch the strawberry bowl 👀
me personally if i were either of those men, i wouldnt have lost my family.
if i were david i wouldve:
- clutched that 4v1 with my robot body and baseball bat, dispatching the 2 niggas first then the 2 hoes
if i were jesse pinkman i wouldve:
- never listened to my silly wife about letting david have my replica
- locked my fucking door
- understood that david has lost everything and he is liable to be dangerous or at least unpredictable
It was awful, but Crocodile was worse and darker.
White Christmas, Crocodile, Shut Up And Dance and Beyond The Sea. Nightmare fuel.
P.S. And the ending of Playtest horrified me too.
Why didn't they just send the replica out in space and the real human version on earth?
Because that was, specifically, an experiment on keeping humans on a ship in space for 4 years and sending a robot would give zero information on that.
What happens if the replica breakdown? Nobody can fly the ship or do what needs to be done
I thought about that too. It's obvious the replicas are advanced, but maybe not as advanced as what would be needed in space.
This episode for the most part got me thinking about the mind-body problem.
This was in the Firefly universe and these two were the first reavers
Best episode 💜
Love Black Mirror & its usually brilliant writing, but for me this one had too much "just go with it". Did not make sense that Cliff wd let David continue after he first went bad at Cliff's home . Almost turned it off. Almost
Why couldn’t they send the replicas to space instead ? All their exercise was unnecessary too in space .
They would be saving food and Alot of resources in space and replicas can be replaceable if they have like a few backups there .
What happens when a solar flare hit and the replicas stop working. Failed mission. Replicas might be made of materials that don't work well in space. They also mention something with poor dexterity with the replicas. They mission involves studying how human biology survives a long-distance space travel> You notice the monitor their body meticulously
This is the plotwist we’re not expecting. I bet everyone thinks that David will abandoned Cliff at the space and stole his life and his family. It is more than that. It’s so horrifying and disturbing ending.
This brought bpd and spacing out to a whole new level
Really like your channel breakdowns. thank you
Thank you for watching! 😊
SICK EPISODE. I LIKE IT BUT I HATED IT AT THE SAME TIME.
DUUUUUUMMMMBBB!!! This was SO dumb.
I was hoping they would "subvert expectations" by doing something INTERESTING like - David wakes up with the blood red hands, but surprisingly, it was from Cliff painting an impromptu mural on the side of his house that reads, "Ours Now" or something, meaning... it's THROUPLE-time!!!
I actually liked this episode but there is some lazy writing in it. Didn’t feel like the usual sharp Charlie Brooker. Needed a little refinement to sell it, like maybe saying the replica couldn’t go into space because if it failed they needed a real human or something. Plus why wouldn’t they spend some time together up there just talking and stuff after his wife died? Like Aaron Paul always looked in a rush to get back to his replica life. Plus would you let two not exactly mentally stable men up in space? I get Josh Hartnett probably was stable until his family getting murdered but obviously not that much if he murdered a whole family himself because he got rejected but at least that’s more believable than Aaron Paul’s character who clearly has issues.
I think its that real people could go to space without the isolation of space. If they sent the robots up they couldn’t say the first man to be up in space they’d have to say a robot replica of myself went up to space which doesn’t have the same ring. Also I don’t think the other guy ever disliked being around his family he just didn’t take to being in a robot around his family. He felt the same amount of love for his wife that the other guy did. I think maybe this concept could’ve been explored more with other characters. There’s so many things that the robot could do but it ended up being used as a weapon like everything else in history. I think like you said we needed more context. This episode was a bit more personal than scientific. They could’ve had a small blurb about why the robots were created, what problem they were trying to solve.
No secret Hare's ? ( if you know, you Know )
I liked this episode but found myself thinking "Isn't it crazy that the robot isn't in space, with the human staying on earth? Seems that way they could make another if the first one breaks and send it back out into space...>"
But then, that wouldn't lend to the horror of the episode.
In the episode it's mentioned that the whole mission is about life in space, it's essential that their real versions are there - David says it to the people in the movie theatre
Id like to think that the mission is so critical, it needs humans to physically man it. Sending avatars would be too risky if the connection was broken for whatever reason
@@fefotofefofbgRight, but to me it still seemed like a lazy explanation. Also the fact that they were just 2 of them and had almost no communication with the control center, which made them depend solely on each other, was making the whole plot unrealistic to me. Maybe it was also a psychological experiment, which ended up fatal.
@@ML-hu9liI mean in a sense I don’t think it really needs to make complete logistical sense as it is in essence a spoof of old 60s sci fi and space movies which were often extremely unrealistic.
@@bigcheese2128 Interesting, I didn't think about it that way. Most Black mirror episodes are thought through very well, which make the horror feel more real. Maybe in this one, there was no intention or need to do so.
This was brutal and hard to watch
When I was watching this, I couldn’t help but think, why didn’t they send the replicas to space and leave the pilots on earth.
Because there would be no episode then
I love this episode but pretty predictable. Although I thought the twist would be he stayed and left cliff in space, the murder of the family was a twist I didn’t see
Personally a better ending would have been Cliffs tags in the tray with no suspicion, Cliff coming to terms with how he needs to be a more present husband and entering the pod smiling excited for his chance to make things better
Only for him to find his replica covered in blood and his wife on the floor…
Let me know what you think !
i agree
This ur fav episode?? Loch Henry I felt was amazing but coulda been better I kinda knew once I saw the vhs tapes and mask. Still loved how they did that. I wish we got more than 5 episodes.
Damn Jesse 😢
This was an amazing episode. Well done season 6. Great to see Josh Hartnett again. Both him and Aaron Paul delivered great performances.
Just watched this, it has a lot of plot holes. Like for instance if the autonomous robots were in the ship. This probably wouldn't have resulted in two massacres probably just one. If the teleoperation from Earth and back is instantaneous that means they would have had somewhat of an ability to return to Earth in real life as C is a constant. So, David could have attained access to attend his own families funeral. If a ship was sent out. Little things like this dont make sense.
A signal (like the consciousness) can probably travel in minutes but not the physical bodies. That would take way too long.
You not paying attention to the plot is different from plot holes. Everything you're pointing out has an explanation
Why not replica in the sky?
They should have just sent the replicas to space and logged in for work from earth
Or, they could have just made another replica and allowed dude to try to rebuild his life the way folks normally do on Earth.
These flaws deflated the emotional impact for me.
That's not even close to being the bleakest episode. That's a happy ending compared to white Christmas
Why weren’t the androids on the space ship and the humans on the earth???!!
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You’re wrong. The cult killed Cliff’s family.
1. You will see Cliff is not raging in anger when he got back to his body in space.
2. I think David used Cliff’s replica just to say goodbye but he see Cliff’s family is already dead.
3. You will see the blood in the walls, same thing the cult did in David’s family
4. David kicked the chair to comfort Cliff
Oh thats actually an interesting interpretation, but then again: Why are cliffs hands coverd in blood? Why did the cult didnt destroy the replica this time?
I really thought David would kill Cliff and keep living his life as long as he could until his death in space due to operating the ship alone.
Am I the only one that was quite bothered that the episode never gave any reason as to why the replicas couldn’t go into space while the actual Cliff and David would remain earthbound? Certainly would’ve been a lot less taxing on the pair of them. A quick mention of an important study or a crucial analysis on the physiological effects of a long term low (-or in this case, maybe artificial) gravity environment would’ve sufficed, but alas the logic remained completely unexplained.
The episode gave several reasons, you just need to pay attention
@@radhiadeedou8286and they were?
Why couldn’t the replicas be in space while the humans are on earth?
This is an interesting yet psychologically improbable circumstance. It is well known that victims of one form of trauma or another are less likely to perpetrate that same trauma on someone else. So while it’s interesting it’s also more fantastical than a realistic horror. Perhaps there was a art of David that was sadistic to begin with, why else did he cling to life so deeply despite having lost everything? It makes more sense he would euthanize himself unless deep down he is narcissistic. It would explain his parasitic behavior.
This was the only really good episode of the season for me that actually fit into the black mirror theme, I wasn’t quite expecting that twist
I like loch henry the best but this is super good.
Cliff shoulda never let him. I wouldn’t let him use it once even
Dave wud have destroyed him it's just physics unless cliff had a razor on him hidden and got a lucky shot in
Hands down my favorite black mirror episode
Yeah this was a great ep and super dark. I thought what was going to happen was the sad guy was gonna kill the other at the ship and play as the other guy until the wife either figured it out and killed him and deal with the last remnant of her husband or she was gonna accept it and now have a kind of new husband that she loves more. But the way that it did end, I was hoping the other guy was gonna kill him after what the sad guy did to his family but it just ends. I still liked it but the ending…. Idk maybe I’m just a film snob and think I came up with a better ending haha.
I thought after the cult bit, I lost interest tbh, I think it’s not for me at all but can see why others like it.
Metal Head
I think the bleakest is “shut up and dance” but this one is very close
I'm reserving the term "bleakest" for Crocodile. I still don't know what word best describes Shut up and Dance, I felt lost and empty after watching it, and that's how you know the episode was great.
Sure, lend my body to my friend and let him spend time alone with my wife. What could possibly go wrong? They should call this series “Bleak Mirror.”
Am i the only one this episode is lame for execution ending? Except the play of Jesse Pinkman which is the only one good.
i agree
Its so funny i thought whiles watching. Mucully off the drugs? He looks gd. Didnt know it was his brother
Definitely bleak af!!
shit was hella sad
Why not put the replica in space and the real one on earth? Because there wouldnt be a story? Doesnt make sense to me....
Part of the mission was to study the effects of being in space long term.
everybody saying that it doesn't make sense to not send the replicas the space instead is so dumb, the whole point of the mission was about life in the space for 4 years, they need humans to achieve the goal, robots would not give them any type of information.
Why not send the replicas to space and leave the humans on earth? David lost his replica which is made just for him and no other replica can be created as long as he is not present, however, he can use his collegues replica. Why not duplicate his collegues replica and let him use it? hmm....
I would’ve killed him then drifted off in space 😂
😆😆 Same, no question about it. We'd be both dead
To begin with, why can’t they have the replicas up in space and the real body on earth instead?
Anyone has any idea?
Because the mission was to study the longterm effects of space on the human body. David says so himself in the beginning
I agree
….. why couldn’t they just put the replicas in space..
There are two main things that really bothered me about this episode
1) Why don’t they just put the replicas in space and have the humans on earth? Therefore if there is any damage done to the ship there no risk of human life being lost. And sure, they would have to bring extra stuff up there to maintain them, but why not just store extra replicas just incase something happens? Not really that relevant but it just hit me halfway through the episode and made a lot of the tension feel a bit forced
2) I could already tell where the plot was going to go after Cliff let the other guy borrow his replica, which was made even more annoying by the fact the episode was so long because it just felt like it dragged on and on for a conflict that was really predictable