R Lee Ermey himself fought in Vietnam, and was a staff sergeant for a short time during his last years as a Marine. So he was a perfect choice as Drill Sergeant Hartmann.
He was originally going to be just the advisor to the movie and his name is in the credits as the advisor. The actor who played the door gunner who shouted "get-some" was going to be the drill instructor, but the role ended up going to R Lee Ermey. Fun fact, he improvised most of his lines in the movie, the fact he was a drill instructor probably made it all the more easier. He also played a helicopter pilot in the movie "Apocalypse Now" during the famous helicopter scene.
His title gunnery Sargent comes from the day of retirement he is lead to the parade grounds and too his complete surprise after being awarded service medals for his commitment to the corps the master sergeant and the commandant approached he was awarded the rank gunnery sergeant
One comment that R. Lee Ermey made when interviewed about this movie is that stuff like Hartmann did in Full Metal Jacket would *never* fly in actual boot camp. It's harsh, but any sergeant that struck their recruits would very quickly find themselves on the pointy end of a court martial, and would *completely* lose their respect before they got tossed in a military prison. They're also limited in the amount of abuse they can dish out, even for Marine boot camp in a time of war. The way Ermey played Hartmann was deliberately over the top, someone who got into his job too much and became unhinged far, far before Private Pyle did. He'd also pointed out that every single live round was accounted for during gunnery training. You got 6 live rounds, you produced six casings afterward or you'd be held until they were found - for *precisely* the reason that the movie illustrated. Pyle could NEVER have smuggled those live rounds into the barracks had any of the NCOs been doing their job. And even if he had, any Gunnery Sergeant worth their salt would immediately have called out a squad of MPs to take him down. That he thought it appropriate to go after Pyle solo and unarmed, and start out by *insulting him,* showed just how far both of them were gone. That whole boot camp was a cloud of dysfunction, starting with Hartmann. It could only end in one way - death.
I graduated Parris Island in 04. None of our DIs were as rough as Gunny Hartman, but I got roughed up one or twice, and grabbed by the throat when I got into it with another recruit. Before this soft clown world generation, DIs would definitely put their hands on recruits. It was hard training, and we were better for it and so was the Corps.
@@TarawaS2000 Far as I know DIs WERE allowed to put their hands on recruits back then - Ermey was saying they weren't allowed to actually STRIKE them. That's what the infamous blanket parties were for in the first place - to get physical in a way the DI wasn't allowed to even back then.
and countless other marines (as well as an inquiry conducted into marine boot camp training practices in the wake of this film's release) said that it was worse.
@@plasticweapon Apparently at least the real boot camps knew enough to track their live rounds, as AFAIK not too many DIs got themselves shot during that period. It was the idiot COs that got fragged instead.
@@ArchTeryx00and it's absolutely not true that it could "only end in death". i also feel like you overestimate the number of COs who were fragged, and have too fixed an idea about why. marines are not school shooters.
i cried when they beat up pyle. not during the beating but after when he was crying. i was shook up cause he reminded me of a child thay was brutally punished when they cant help it.
I almost did myself because he is almost a clone to my older brother, his smile before being choked, the way he struggles l, all reminds me of my own brother. I plan to go into the service myself, but this movie made me happy my brother got rejected when he tried to get in... If this was the 1970s tho... He wouldn't be, his birthday is on one draft lottery they did back than.
@@lemieux-z8933 Did he get choked by military people or someone else? I'm so sorry for what's happened. If you do go, I hope the DIs or DSs and recruits/peers don't haze or mess with you too much.
@corncobbob2326 I love this country and those who serve, but damn, there's straight up people in the forces that are straight assholes, either for themselves or just... For themselves. Our family has a bit of a history with the military, my late uncle died in Korea in 2007, and the army didn't hold responsibility when in fact they had full responsibility for what happened, my grandpa had to fly all the way there to fly him back when uncle died in his coma because the army wouldn't bring him home. He was a motarman, 101st Airborne. My grandpa was also In the service, he was drafted during Vietnam but with his skills as a mechanic, he stayed home in the states luckily. Anyway, my mother is apprehensive of me going in because of all that. I love my country, even with its darker history, there's still a lot of good. I'm lucky to be born in the United States and I feel like I owe it.
One unspoken aspect of Hartmann that my cousin (also a marine) voiced: Hartmann appears to be doing the work of three people in the film (we see he has two other DIs standing beside him in his opening scene, but there's no indication they ever actually get involved in the training of the recruits), and also was probably under severe pressure himself to get as many bodies to Vietnam as possible. His brutality towards the recruits, and Pyle in particular, may be a sign he's getting just as much brutality from the higher ups, being overworked due to possible staffing shortages and with the greatest insistence being on "Do whatever you have to to meet your quota!"
Went to Bootcamp in late 2020 and into 2021. Micromanaging, nicknames, group punishment, humiliation during drill, getting hit or thrown when you mess up, platoon fuck-up getting beaten in his rack in the middle of the night, all of it's real. The only crazy part is Pyle getting his hands a rifle AND live ammo. You're strip searched at the end of each day at the range, and weapons are locked up every night and gaurded by firewatch. The only time you sleep with your rifle is during field training. Idk how things were during Vietnam, though. RIP Gunny Ermey
Genuine question: what does a guy have to do wrong to 'deserve' to get get that group beating? Like, what's the reasoning behind it? Not saying I'm judging or something, I'm genuinely curious
Any examples of micromanaging, humiliation during drill, hits or throws, and nicknames? Could the nicknames be removed instead of immortalized? And how bad would a mess-up be to lead to hits and throws? Were they even warranted or is it just power being abused? Why would a platoon get beaten in his bed/rack and do the attackers get harsher consequences? How bad could the fuck-up be? Does it end after bootcamp or just get less bad or even worse? Is there a way for a recruit to not go through all those harsh things (asking bc I don't expect a recruit that's completely perfect, esp in the beginning such as bootcamp)? Or do "invisible" recruits get messed with in some way and how?
@@corncobbob2326 Micromanage : a DI taking a interest in one certain recruit and taking full controll of their life's always getting corrected for the slightest things just because they don't like them. Drill humiliation: simply messing a movement to many times can lead you to go run after signs to fire hydrants eventually to just go sit on the side to perform physical activity for how ever long the DI wishes
My ds ( army) clarified that the reason for such strict restrictions around the weapons was because of this film and privates successful doing it. Though during my training I had several opportunities to get live ammo without a check up.
Because Lyndon B Johnson wanted a definitive Military Victory by 1970, the Military was actively drafting soldiers including kids who were barely in their teens. Marin boot camp typically is 12 weeks long. They shortened it to 8 weeks (Joker refers to the Marines as an 8-week college for the Phony tough) so they could rapidly deploy soldiers. To compensate they made these training camps more brutal mentally and physically. As an end result, not only was Uncle Sam sending substandard soldiers, some were already experiencing PTSD already even before they did any fighting just as you see here. Adding insult to the Injury, corrupt politicians and their business partners wanted to profit from the war, they were rush manufacturing weapons and equipment. Many of those M16 rifles would malfunction after a little dust. So in the end, Johnson really ruined a lot of American lives.
Just to add, that's always why our Military wants young adolescent boys/men to enlist. They have no fear of combat thinking they're invincible. You're not going to get that same mentality with a fourty year old man having his job to support him and his family. Me? I'm 60. I tried to enlist back in 1983 but failed the physical - too nearsighted. Back then I wasn't afraid and would look the devil in the face and laugh. Now? You couldn't pay me enough to enlist and likely fight in a useless war all for the sake of the Military Industrial Complex and big business making unimaginable amounts of money.
As a former Army Soldier, I always saw Marines as the guys who maybe like the job too much. And for a lot of it, that's true. You don't make E5 in the Marines unless you're gung-ho as fuck. They don't like half-assers like me in their branch at all lol. But the reality past that? There's a lot of guys who find themselves signing up for it and realizing very much that isn't what they want, and the Marines are basically designed as a psy-op to break guys like that down to re-form them out of clay. Which is the unique condition in that branch that the other branches just don't do. So I've always been a little wary of the people who do that job. They feel like there's a little boy on a milk carton somewhere that represents the person a Marine used to be.
No, a lot of them hate it. That's why the Marine Corps has the lowest re-enlistment rate in the US military. Don't fall for the hype. The USMC has the same issues, worse in some ways, with leadership as the Army. The reason it's harder to make rank in the USMC is because the bottleneck is lower than the Army and the Marine Corps assigns more responsibility at lower ranks (some think that's a bragging point, it's actually being paid less for the same job, while being less experienced and mature).
@@MG-wk2eh I went to the Marine recruiter and all I could think is 'and they pay you guys the SAME for this?'. That guy was such an aggressive jerk, too. They definitely don't want empathetic or compassionate people in their ranks. That guy was in that job of recruiter to weed out Jojo Rabbits like me. Not even kidding. The Army can handle people like me because it's about team effort but the Marines needs killers who can operate independently. And I like myself knowing that it's not for me.
@@Stand_By_For_Mind_Control Bro, anyone in infantry/combat arms is a killer. Army or Marine Corps. Marine POGs are not killers, no matter how much shit they talk about all Marines being riflemen because they went to shortened and easy version of SOI after boot camp and never drilled again.
Its hard for me to appreciate this film as an anti-war film because as a 90s kid who went to highschool in the 2000s it was pretty much the favorite of all the JROTC kids who ended up fighting in Iraq despite the fact we all graduated well after we discovered the war was started on false pretenses and there were no weapons of mass destruction. The message was completely lost.
What gets me is hearing so many Conservative radio talk show hosts saying it's all the illegal immigrants draining the system of medical benefits and affecting Social Security and Medicare. Most untrue. It's our troops that went into a war we had no business starting and countless soldiers and Marines coming home disabled and requiring benefits. I'm not belittling our Military. But if we didn't have so many troops coming back disabled, the Government benefits would still be plentiful. I blame our Government for our troops permanently scarred for life with physical disabilities as well as PTSD.
The Mickey Mouse song has often been sung in our household when the kids were on the edge of succumbing to peer pressure. It was always a wonderful "step back and have a frank conversation" moment for the family. Along the way it was definitely played back on us. It also lasted long enough to influence our eldest grandkid, too.
It's been acknowledged recently that during the Vietnam War there were recruits who were brought into the ranks who normally would not have been taken due to their intelligence or maturity levels. It was the plan of Secretary of Defense McNamara who adopted it from a different program which was actually intended to give jobs and training through the military for such people rather than use them as cannon fodder. However, they became cannon fodder because that was how they were used. They were called "McNamara's Idiots" and like Gomer they often needed assistance doing things and became targets. As in the movie some turned on their superior officers killing them which in Vietnam (maybe other wars as well) was called "Fragging" due to the fact fragmentation grenades were often used. I think now days they might simply discharge someone like Gomer rather than risk him being somewhere where is a threat to himself and other, but from what I hear they still get people who shouldn't be in the service who get in anyways.
Yep - they did the same thing during Iraq, except the Iraqi people ended up in the crosshairs. A ton of American soldiers died in really horrific ways because *other* American soldiers allowed into the service when they lowered standards committed horrific war crimes (most of which the US military decided the Iraqis were responsible for and lying about). You basically required proof beyond a reasonable doubt before they would *investigate* and whistleblowers were generally harrassed, threatened, killed, or scared out of the service after succeeding in those rare cases with any justice. Look up Stephen Green.
Gotta stick up for some of the war correspondents. It's not always about getting the scoop. It's about documenting history. Recording the ugly truth of what's really happening.
Basically spreading propaganda. You really think the U.S of all places gives a shit about recording history like that? Sure, if it doesnt invovle themselves and it benefits their end goals.
I think this film is a fascinating study into the demystification of being a soldier, in most war stories war is seen as a brave thing where you will be thanked and given medals and even get to varnish a salute with your coat of gold and honours but full metal shows the cold reality of what its like to have your humanity stripped as instinct of the killing machine of man and the urge to survive takes over. a really powerful film indeed and thank you guys for covering it 👍😊 Also can I request that you look at the film Barefoot Gen at some point it takes place in Japan during the second world war and it focuses on a family after surviving the hiroshima bomb its an anime
There are a few things I'd like to point out from experience, having graduated from Parris Island in 1975 (Battalion A, Company A, Series 168, Platoon 169...some things you never forget). There were three drill instructors per platoon. The Senior Drill Instructor is not the nastiest DI, it is the second, or what we would call the Heavy. The third DI was also rough, but not as rough, sort of a very bad cop/bad cop situation. The SDI ran the operation and was tough for sure, but the DI directly under him was the meanest, at least in my training platoon. Also, these men are not soldiers--soldiers are in the Army, and in fact they are not marines until they graduate. Until graduation day, they are recruits. At 5:43 Pyle is shown totally screwing up at the first obstacle on the 11-obstacle confidence course (it may have been 10 back in the time period shown). That was given the name "ball buster." If you look closely, you will see large bolts protruding from the metal straps used to mount the top log to the bottom logs. If you try to climb over the obstacle by using that area (so your legs won't swing under and pull you down), the protrusions are just at the right height to smash your balls if not careful. The best way to clear that obstacle is to approach just to the right of the post, jump up while kicking out a leg to catch the post and stop the forward momentum of your legs while pulling yourself up with your arms. Easy. The confidence course was fun actually. 1:16 is most likely showing part of the initial physical fitness test (PFT). 3:03 and 3:14 is also part of the confidence course, though the 1x10's were replaced with actual logs by the time I was there.
I believe it was Emery who said that a Gunnery Sergeant who behaves as sadistically as Hartman, would not get away with his antics, even during wartime.
I served in the Marine Corps and I went to Boot Camp at Parris Island, South Carolina. This was a very accurate depiction of what Marine Corps recruits have to deal with. But there were 2 more Drill Instructors or in my case 3 Drill Instructors because I was in 3rd Battalion. I also served in Operation Desert Storm but it was much different that the Vietnam War as depicted in this movie.
Sometimes I wonder how many times a young Wes Anderson watched this movie, specifically the first half - the square framed shots, the relatively pastel colour schemes, the moments that are so uncomfortable that you kind of laugh about it - it does feel like a psychotic Anderson movie to me at times.
My dad made me watch Full Metal Jacket when I was a kid. That last scene where Pyle became deranged, shot the drill instructor and then himself, that part clinged in my memory for years. Now I finally know what the movie was called and I can watch it again.
Just found this channel whilst binging Stalingrad (1993). Too tired to write a long comment rn so I’ll just say that I’m glad to have found the channel and your analysis on movies is great
These are Marines, not soldiers. A soldier would never say "I'm an Army", A sailor would never say "I'm a Navy", an airman would never say "I'm an Air Force"... but every Marine is proud to say "I'm a Marine". It's a title that is earned, not a job that is applied for.
The only thing inaccurate I notice about this movie is there are multiple DIs training and destroying recruits and making them into Marines instead of just one DI doing all the work
The movie is inherently showing the duo/trio of aspects of childhood being worn away by war. Pyle was a naive child turned killing machine, and his awareness of that made him see his life as no longer worth to live. Joker was a happy/fun child turned also into a killing machine, also aware yet embracing the “world of shit”. A third aspect could be argued to be that Vietnamese girl, who is a more literal idea than the first two: that war strips and steals the youth of children and forces them to grow up and die too fast
I argue that Pyle was acting a little too young for his age, and I respectfully disagree. Sure, I guess you shouldn’t have to go through hell to become a man, but we live in an era full of infantilized 18 year olds. I argue otherwise.
I went through basic training in 1989 and totally loved the first half of this movie because it's true. The drill instructors' job is to wear down the soldier and then build them up. I guess it went sideways for Pyle and Hartman, but the situation rings true. Damn, you made me want to watch the film again, you Ghoul😂.
Somewhere I read that Joker was supposed to diin the end of the movie. But the actor and Kubrick talked and decided that living with all those experiences might have been worse than a “peaceful” deathin the war. As he will habe to carry that weight for the rest of his life
I'm pretty sure that the nickname of "Private Pyle" was a reference to the "Gomer Pyle Show", where he was literally a private in the Marine corps, not to his character on the "Andy Griffith Show". It's the same character, played by the same person, but the situation in the later show matches the movie way more.
I had to pause at the 1:52 mark simply to say that's exactly how bootcamp is. At least when I was there in 2000. I was Navy and it wasn't any better. The only thing they don't mention in Full Metal Jacket is the 3 months of sleep deprivation they put us (and me) through. True story. Also not to pick your excellent video to pieces but they were Marines not Soldiers. I say that because any Jarhead I knew would throw a bitch fit if they watched this video.
During the Vietnam era you had a program called McNamara’s Morons which allows low-IQ troops to be there. PVT Pile can very well be a true story as McNamara’s Morons actually happened.
I can remember the first time I watched this movie when it was released on VHS. My brother and I said these guys have all got a screw loose to join up knowing that they are going to the worst of veitmam, and marines are bad ass.
Vincent D'Onofrio is a great actor. You could see him in 5 different movies and think you were watching 5 different actors. Gary Oldman is the same way.
As an Army veteran, I loved the Boot Camp sequence. The stuff with Gomer Pyle is for film making narrative. The rest of the verbal abuse and intense control of the platoon was SOP in my 1980s Basic Training experience. It was a rite of passage. It starts fierce but eases up as training progresses.
You know, sergeant Hartman reminds me of someone. I’ll give you a hint….. “It’d be funny if it weren’t so pathetic. Oh, what the heck, I’ll laugh anyway!”
If you read the book, nobody ever gets the sniper. After the snippets eight all and the medic, cowboy comes to help and the sniper wounds cowboy to suck in more of the squad. Joker shoots cowboy to stop anyone else exposing themselves 😳
1:54 This is the norm in basic training for most combat jobs in the military (particularly the army and marine corps). In order to be an effective killer, you have to be broken dow and rebuilt into one.
The one thing as a kid my dad always bitched about was Pyle having a full magazine. Not how it works in any branch. You get a few rounds for the exercise you are doing, and you have to turn in your brass at that point. So you would get like, idk, say 20 rounds for the shooting drill and you had to turn in 20 brass casings
The peace sign is close to his heart, but the "born to kill" is close to his head. Your brain will always could what your heart may feel, and especially for a situation like Vietnam, the brain took over
I finally got around to watching this one yesterday, and all I can say is, The Shining was not the only horror film Kubrick made. The first 40 minute section at the boot camp, and the final scene are just bone chilling. It’s a very unique take on an anti war message conveyed through the filmmaking and characterisation, I’ve heard some detractors of the film state the film is unsatisfying, and that is the point, ultimately showing the futility of war.
In my own experience, the drill instructor stood on a bed rail to point down at a taller Pvt. Pyle ish basic military trainee. It would’ve fit right in to this movie.
If I recall correctly in the book the character representing Hartman (he has a different name which I don't remember) in his last breaths after being shot congratulates Pyle because he's finally become a killer. Hartman has somehow succeeded in making a good-hearted simpleton into a ruthless monster which was his objective from the start.
Lock socking is different and the same. Locks (master combo locks) were put in socks for the same result, however it is done because soap in towels leaves residue and chunky soap bits
@@williamriley5118 but the two comments above me also say “drill Sargent” also, in the movie “Jarhead” with Jake Gyllenhaal? All the crew recruits say “yes drill, sergeant!”
@@williamriley5118 Well i don’t understand why every Marine movie they say “YES. DRILL. SARG. ANT!” Maybe because “YES. DRILL.INSTRUCTOR”!! doesn’t roll off the tongue lol. Who knows. 🤷🏼♀️
I didnt understand the movie when I was young, but I started to understand it 20 years later, then I would not stop watching some of the scenes, specially when Hartmann is killed by Gomer Pyle.
I thought he should have answered Hartman calling him Pyle in the latrine,"My name is Leonard Lawrence!"I think if there had been a background story on Pyle,it would have been his father was a Marine and twisted his son's arm to join The Peace Corps would have been a better fit for Leonard Lawrence,a.k.a. Gomer Pyle.
3:50 this was Nam Draft, fit or not, he was going to war on the front lines.(if you made it to boot camp, you were going to war, period) Drill Sgt knew this, tried to get him ready the way he knew how, only the way he knew wasn't really best for everyone
Idk about other the services but every Marine I served with, went by the nickname they got in USMC Boot Camp. Not everyone recieves one, only the ones that stand out to the DIs. I was Recuit Comedian, I also had to tell a joke every night and if the Drill Instructor on duty doesnt laugh, I'll have to pay for it in the morning.
I seen several boys be conditioned into unhinged killing machines if you allow yourself to be brainwashed you certainly will become a robot . I just followed all instructions and made sure I was pristine at PT and my boot camp was reasonable and even though i rarely made a mistake I got my fair share of screaming in my face DI Thomas was my DI he was a midnight black guy 5”9 155 pound little tyrant and I can still hear his screaming 30 years later in my nightmares 😂 they have a really hard job making boys into soldiers there’s many of the recruits that had no business being in the military let alone the marines my poor nephew was unable to graduate and was sent home after 3 weeks and 2 weeks in a mental health facility they really did a number on him mentall I tried to convince him to join the air force but he insisted on USMC because of me
Another big theme in the movie is the forced equalization of sexual desire with desire to kill. You can see in the boot camp scenes of how they were being indoctrinated into treating their weapon as their lover, they were made to sing "this is my rifle, this is my gun, this is for fighting, this is for fun" while holding their weapon with one hand and their private parts with the other" . There is probably a few more instances that i cant remember in the first half but these are the ones i remember. This has clear results in the 2nd act, when they talk about killing someone , they say "f$ck him/her" like in the last scene with the nva girl. This is something that was actually used in the past because the military wanted to take advantage of the fact that sexual instinct is a natural desire and indoctrinate the men into equating it with killing. That way they are really made "born to kill"
Basic Training/Bootcamp and your first year in your first command will be the worst years in your military career. You are trying to adjust in an environment that you are required to know while facing ongoing pressure.
R Lee Ermey himself fought in Vietnam, and was a staff sergeant for a short time during his last years as a Marine. So he was a perfect choice as Drill Sergeant Hartmann.
No he was an actual Drill Sergeant as well.
He was originally going to be just the advisor to the movie and his name is in the credits as the advisor. The actor who played the door gunner who shouted "get-some" was going to be the drill instructor, but the role ended up going to R Lee Ermey. Fun fact, he improvised most of his lines in the movie, the fact he was a drill instructor probably made it all the more easier. He also played a helicopter pilot in the movie "Apocalypse Now" during the famous helicopter scene.
His title gunnery Sargent comes from the day of retirement he is lead to the parade grounds and too his complete surprise after being awarded service medals for his commitment to the corps the master sergeant and the commandant approached he was awarded the rank gunnery sergeant
His honorary promotion to Gunnery Sergeant was well-deserved. His actual retired rank was E-6, Staff Sergeant.
He was a Drill Instructor. Drill Sergeants are in the Army.
One comment that R. Lee Ermey made when interviewed about this movie is that stuff like Hartmann did in Full Metal Jacket would *never* fly in actual boot camp. It's harsh, but any sergeant that struck their recruits would very quickly find themselves on the pointy end of a court martial, and would *completely* lose their respect before they got tossed in a military prison. They're also limited in the amount of abuse they can dish out, even for Marine boot camp in a time of war. The way Ermey played Hartmann was deliberately over the top, someone who got into his job too much and became unhinged far, far before Private Pyle did.
He'd also pointed out that every single live round was accounted for during gunnery training. You got 6 live rounds, you produced six casings afterward or you'd be held until they were found - for *precisely* the reason that the movie illustrated. Pyle could NEVER have smuggled those live rounds into the barracks had any of the NCOs been doing their job. And even if he had, any Gunnery Sergeant worth their salt would immediately have called out a squad of MPs to take him down. That he thought it appropriate to go after Pyle solo and unarmed, and start out by *insulting him,* showed just how far both of them were gone. That whole boot camp was a cloud of dysfunction, starting with Hartmann. It could only end in one way - death.
I graduated Parris Island in 04. None of our DIs were as rough as Gunny Hartman, but I got roughed up one or twice, and grabbed by the throat when I got into it with another recruit. Before this soft clown world generation, DIs would definitely put their hands on recruits. It was hard training, and we were better for it and so was the Corps.
@@TarawaS2000 Far as I know DIs WERE allowed to put their hands on recruits back then - Ermey was saying they weren't allowed to actually STRIKE them. That's what the infamous blanket parties were for in the first place - to get physical in a way the DI wasn't allowed to even back then.
and countless other marines (as well as an inquiry conducted into marine boot camp training practices in the wake of this film's release) said that it was worse.
@@plasticweapon Apparently at least the real boot camps knew enough to track their live rounds, as AFAIK not too many DIs got themselves shot during that period. It was the idiot COs that got fragged instead.
@@ArchTeryx00and it's absolutely not true that it could "only end in death". i also feel like you overestimate the number of COs who were fragged, and have too fixed an idea about why. marines are not school shooters.
i cried when they beat up pyle. not during the beating but after when he was crying. i was shook up cause he reminded me of a child thay was brutally punished when they cant help it.
I almost did myself because he is almost a clone to my older brother, his smile before being choked, the way he struggles l, all reminds me of my own brother.
I plan to go into the service myself, but this movie made me happy my brother got rejected when he tried to get in... If this was the 1970s tho... He wouldn't be, his birthday is on one draft lottery they did back than.
@@lemieux-z8933 Did he get choked by military people or someone else? I'm so sorry for what's happened. If you do go, I hope the DIs or DSs and recruits/peers don't haze or mess with you too much.
@corncobbob2326 I love this country and those who serve, but damn, there's straight up people in the forces that are straight assholes, either for themselves or just... For themselves.
Our family has a bit of a history with the military, my late uncle died in Korea in 2007, and the army didn't hold responsibility when in fact they had full responsibility for what happened, my grandpa had to fly all the way there to fly him back when uncle died in his coma because the army wouldn't bring him home.
He was a motarman, 101st Airborne.
My grandpa was also In the service, he was drafted during Vietnam but with his skills as a mechanic, he stayed home in the states luckily.
Anyway, my mother is apprehensive of me going in because of all that.
I love my country, even with its darker history, there's still a lot of good. I'm lucky to be born in the United States and I feel like I owe it.
We did the same shit to a guy who told us he would laugh if we died and it was on his watch
@@greatgallade well yea but thats different. leonard was just a child really
Finally, someone calls Hartman a Drill Instructor and not a Drill Sergeant.
Yup. A Senior Drill Instructor to boot.
What exactly is the difference?
@datguymiller a drill instructor is in the Marines. A drill Sergeant is in the army.
@@prometheusstarr5103 thank you
But then he calls Joker a soldier when he's a marine.
One unspoken aspect of Hartmann that my cousin (also a marine) voiced: Hartmann appears to be doing the work of three people in the film (we see he has two other DIs standing beside him in his opening scene, but there's no indication they ever actually get involved in the training of the recruits), and also was probably under severe pressure himself to get as many bodies to Vietnam as possible. His brutality towards the recruits, and Pyle in particular, may be a sign he's getting just as much brutality from the higher ups, being overworked due to possible staffing shortages and with the greatest insistence being on "Do whatever you have to to meet your quota!"
Went to Bootcamp in late 2020 and into 2021. Micromanaging, nicknames, group punishment, humiliation during drill, getting hit or thrown when you mess up, platoon fuck-up getting beaten in his rack in the middle of the night, all of it's real. The only crazy part is Pyle getting his hands a rifle AND live ammo. You're strip searched at the end of each day at the range, and weapons are locked up every night and gaurded by firewatch. The only time you sleep with your rifle is during field training. Idk how things were during Vietnam, though.
RIP Gunny Ermey
Genuine question: what does a guy have to do wrong to 'deserve' to get get that group beating? Like, what's the reasoning behind it? Not saying I'm judging or something, I'm genuinely curious
@@bertje7113 In the military you are a group, not one person, group punishment is meant to teach you that if one member fails, everyone fails
Any examples of micromanaging, humiliation during drill, hits or throws, and nicknames? Could the nicknames be removed instead of immortalized? And how bad would a mess-up be to lead to hits and throws? Were they even warranted or is it just power being abused? Why would a platoon get beaten in his bed/rack and do the attackers get harsher consequences? How bad could the fuck-up be? Does it end after bootcamp or just get less bad or even worse? Is there a way for a recruit to not go through all those harsh things (asking bc I don't expect a recruit that's completely perfect, esp in the beginning such as bootcamp)? Or do "invisible" recruits get messed with in some way and how?
@@corncobbob2326 Micromanage : a DI taking a interest in one certain recruit and taking full controll of their life's always getting corrected for the slightest things just because they don't like them.
Drill humiliation: simply messing a movement to many times can lead you to go run after signs to fire hydrants eventually to just go sit on the side to perform physical activity for how ever long the DI wishes
My ds ( army) clarified that the reason for such strict restrictions around the weapons was because of this film and privates successful doing it. Though during my training I had several opportunities to get live ammo without a check up.
Because Lyndon B Johnson wanted a definitive Military Victory by 1970, the Military was actively drafting soldiers including kids who were barely in their teens. Marin boot camp typically is 12 weeks long. They shortened it to 8 weeks (Joker refers to the Marines as an 8-week college for the Phony tough) so they could rapidly deploy soldiers. To compensate they made these training camps more brutal mentally and physically. As an end result, not only was Uncle Sam sending substandard soldiers, some were already experiencing PTSD already even before they did any fighting just as you see here. Adding insult to the Injury, corrupt politicians and their business partners wanted to profit from the war, they were rush manufacturing weapons and equipment. Many of those M16 rifles would malfunction after a little dust. So in the end, Johnson really ruined a lot of American lives.
Just to add, that's always why our Military wants young adolescent boys/men to enlist. They have no fear of combat thinking they're invincible. You're not going to get that same mentality with a fourty year old man having his job to support him and his family. Me? I'm 60. I tried to enlist back in 1983 but failed the physical - too nearsighted. Back then I wasn't afraid and would look the devil in the face and laugh. Now? You couldn't pay me enough to enlist and likely fight in a useless war all for the sake of the Military Industrial Complex and big business making unimaginable amounts of money.
@stanlee-eq7lu “The industrial complex” it’s much deeper than that fella. It’s a whole ass deep state.
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Don't forget that Macnamra would have an initiative to bring men with mental disabilities and fight in the war dubbed "MacNamaras idiots"
@@hereticalpaintjobs Yeah I remember that. Mg grandfather said, there were really illiterate people being sent to the field
I just now realized how f***ing scary this movie really is.
Don't worry it's not exactly realisitc psychology... Besides, even if it somehow was, you're immune now.
You only just realised that?
Prvt.Pile was the direct result of McNamara’s Morons. It was a real thing.
Yeah, the DOD purposely sent. People who were unfit for combat into combat for a quota.
Except Leonard becomes the best in his barracks. Animal Mother is another.
As a former Army Soldier, I always saw Marines as the guys who maybe like the job too much. And for a lot of it, that's true. You don't make E5 in the Marines unless you're gung-ho as fuck. They don't like half-assers like me in their branch at all lol. But the reality past that? There's a lot of guys who find themselves signing up for it and realizing very much that isn't what they want, and the Marines are basically designed as a psy-op to break guys like that down to re-form them out of clay. Which is the unique condition in that branch that the other branches just don't do.
So I've always been a little wary of the people who do that job. They feel like there's a little boy on a milk carton somewhere that represents the person a Marine used to be.
"They feel like there's a little boy on a milk carton somewhere that represents the person a Marine used to be."
Damn, that's deep...
@@duglife2230that’s what she said
No, a lot of them hate it. That's why the Marine Corps has the lowest re-enlistment rate in the US military.
Don't fall for the hype. The USMC has the same issues, worse in some ways, with leadership as the Army.
The reason it's harder to make rank in the USMC is because the bottleneck is lower than the Army and the Marine Corps assigns more responsibility at lower ranks (some think that's a bragging point, it's actually being paid less for the same job, while being less experienced and mature).
@@MG-wk2eh I went to the Marine recruiter and all I could think is 'and they pay you guys the SAME for this?'. That guy was such an aggressive jerk, too.
They definitely don't want empathetic or compassionate people in their ranks. That guy was in that job of recruiter to weed out Jojo Rabbits like me. Not even kidding. The Army can handle people like me because it's about team effort but the Marines needs killers who can operate independently. And I like myself knowing that it's not for me.
@@Stand_By_For_Mind_Control Bro, anyone in infantry/combat arms is a killer. Army or Marine Corps. Marine POGs are not killers, no matter how much shit they talk about all Marines being riflemen because they went to shortened and easy version of SOI after boot camp and never drilled again.
Its hard for me to appreciate this film as an anti-war film because as a 90s kid who went to highschool in the 2000s it was pretty much the favorite of all the JROTC kids who ended up fighting in Iraq despite the fact we all graduated well after we discovered the war was started on false pretenses and there were no weapons of mass destruction. The message was completely lost.
Same as with _Wall Street_ ... everybody thinks Gekko is a hero when he's really a loser.
What gets me is hearing so many Conservative radio talk show hosts saying it's all the illegal immigrants draining the system of medical benefits and affecting Social Security and Medicare. Most untrue. It's our troops that went into a war we had no business starting and countless soldiers and Marines coming home disabled and requiring benefits. I'm not belittling our Military. But if we didn't have so many troops coming back disabled, the Government benefits would still be plentiful. I blame our Government for our troops permanently scarred for life with physical disabilities as well as PTSD.
Except there's a stark difference between iraq and vietnam
What’s JROTC?
@@teamblue2431junior reserve officers training corps. Simple Google search my dude
The Mickey Mouse song has often been sung in our household when the kids were on the edge of succumbing to peer pressure. It was always a wonderful "step back and have a frank conversation" moment for the family.
Along the way it was definitely played back on us. It also lasted long enough to influence our eldest grandkid, too.
one of the best war movies ever
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One of the best movies ever period
It's been acknowledged recently that during the Vietnam War there were recruits who were brought into the ranks who normally would not have been taken due to their intelligence or maturity levels. It was the plan of Secretary of Defense McNamara who adopted it from a different program which was actually intended to give jobs and training through the military for such people rather than use them as cannon fodder. However, they became cannon fodder because that was how they were used. They were called "McNamara's Idiots" and like Gomer they often needed assistance doing things and became targets. As in the movie some turned on their superior officers killing them which in Vietnam (maybe other wars as well) was called "Fragging" due to the fact fragmentation grenades were often used. I think now days they might simply discharge someone like Gomer rather than risk him being somewhere where is a threat to himself and other, but from what I hear they still get people who shouldn't be in the service who get in anyways.
"mcnamara's morons"
They get it because recruiters are under a lot of pressure to meet their quotas.
Yep - they did the same thing during Iraq, except the Iraqi people ended up in the crosshairs. A ton of American soldiers died in really horrific ways because *other* American soldiers allowed into the service when they lowered standards committed horrific war crimes (most of which the US military decided the Iraqis were responsible for and lying about). You basically required proof beyond a reasonable doubt before they would *investigate* and whistleblowers were generally harrassed, threatened, killed, or scared out of the service after succeeding in those rare cases with any justice. Look up Stephen Green.
Gomer? You mean Leonard?
Great analysis of one of the most searing examinations of war ever
Thank you Soul! It's a fascinating film
This is my most favorite movie of all time
Gotta stick up for some of the war correspondents. It's not always about getting the scoop. It's about documenting history. Recording the ugly truth of what's really happening.
Thank you for saying this as it wasn't an angle I'd previously considered!
Basically spreading propaganda. You really think the U.S of all places gives a shit about recording history like that? Sure, if it doesnt invovle themselves and it benefits their end goals.
Can you believe R lee almost didnt get that role he was an advisor and he showed how he would do it and kubrick hired him on the spot
I think this film is a fascinating study into the demystification of being a soldier, in most war stories war is seen as a brave thing where you will be thanked and given medals and even get to varnish a salute with your coat of gold and honours but full metal shows the cold reality of what its like to have your humanity stripped as instinct of the killing machine of man and the urge to survive takes over. a really powerful film indeed and thank you guys for covering it 👍😊
Also can I request that you look at the film Barefoot Gen at some point it takes place in Japan during the second world war and it focuses on a family after surviving the hiroshima bomb its an anime
That's a brilliant outlook Josh!
Being a Marine is to give up yourself. We go through a lot so others don't have to go through it
There are a few things I'd like to point out from experience, having graduated from Parris Island in 1975 (Battalion A, Company A, Series 168, Platoon 169...some things you never forget). There were three drill instructors per platoon. The Senior Drill Instructor is not the nastiest DI, it is the second, or what we would call the Heavy. The third DI was also rough, but not as rough, sort of a very bad cop/bad cop situation. The SDI ran the operation and was tough for sure, but the DI directly under him was the meanest, at least in my training platoon. Also, these men are not soldiers--soldiers are in the Army, and in fact they are not marines until they graduate. Until graduation day, they are recruits. At 5:43 Pyle is shown totally screwing up at the first obstacle on the 11-obstacle confidence course (it may have been 10 back in the time period shown). That was given the name "ball buster." If you look closely, you will see large bolts protruding from the metal straps used to mount the top log to the bottom logs. If you try to climb over the obstacle by using that area (so your legs won't swing under and pull you down), the protrusions are just at the right height to smash your balls if not careful. The best way to clear that obstacle is to approach just to the right of the post, jump up while kicking out a leg to catch the post and stop the forward momentum of your legs while pulling yourself up with your arms. Easy. The confidence course was fun actually. 1:16 is most likely showing part of the initial physical fitness test (PFT). 3:03 and 3:14 is also part of the confidence course, though the 1x10's were replaced with actual logs by the time I was there.
I believe it was Emery who said that a Gunnery Sergeant who behaves as sadistically as Hartman, would not get away with his antics, even during wartime.
I didn´t find Hartmann sadistic, but really caring for his men. He was preparing them for war, not for a pic-nic!
Welcome to life in the Corps
I served in the Marine Corps and I went to Boot Camp at Parris Island, South Carolina. This was a very accurate depiction of what Marine Corps recruits have to deal with. But there were 2 more Drill Instructors or in my case 3 Drill Instructors because I was in 3rd Battalion. I also served in Operation Desert Storm but it was much different that the Vietnam War as depicted in this movie.
I was in 3rd battalion kilo company, I had 4 drill instructors and we had a couple of people that was like the recruit !! They got discharge so fast
@@deoncarlton9096yeah, I had a fellow recruit off himself in the rain room with IP scissors while I was on firewatch
9:19 I met the dead NVA actor's son during my training in the British army.
Sometimes I wonder how many times a young Wes Anderson watched this movie, specifically the first half - the square framed shots, the relatively pastel colour schemes, the moments that are so uncomfortable that you kind of laugh about it - it does feel like a psychotic Anderson movie to me at times.
YAS! Been waiting for this one.
Hope it was worth the wait Jaq!
My dad made me watch Full Metal Jacket when I was a kid. That last scene where Pyle became deranged, shot the drill instructor and then himself, that part clinged in my memory for years. Now I finally know what the movie was called and I can watch it again.
Full Metal Jacket was beyond amazing. Great analysis on this topic. We will always support you.
Thank you Sophia!
I bet most people forgot the movie exists after bootcamp.
Just found this channel whilst binging Stalingrad (1993). Too tired to write a long comment rn so I’ll just say that I’m glad to have found the channel and your analysis on movies is great
These are Marines, not soldiers. A soldier would never say "I'm an Army", A sailor would never say "I'm a Navy", an airman would never say "I'm an Air Force"... but every Marine is proud to say "I'm a Marine". It's a title that is earned, not a job that is applied for.
Plus they have the best smelling crayons, semper fi
"From a young man with a clouded mind, to his mind being splattered all over the tiles"
Someone should have told him "friendly fire" was on.
i read that as he said that lol
The only thing inaccurate I notice about this movie is there are multiple DIs training and destroying recruits and making them into Marines instead of just one DI doing all the work
The movie is inherently showing the duo/trio of aspects of childhood being worn away by war.
Pyle was a naive child turned killing machine, and his awareness of that made him see his life as no longer worth to live.
Joker was a happy/fun child turned also into a killing machine, also aware yet embracing the “world of shit”.
A third aspect could be argued to be that Vietnamese girl, who is a more literal idea than the first two: that war strips and steals the youth of children and forces them to grow up and die too fast
I argue that Pyle was acting a little too young for his age, and I respectfully disagree. Sure, I guess you shouldn’t have to go through hell to become a man, but we live in an era full of infantilized 18 year olds. I argue otherwise.
I went through basic training in 1989 and totally loved the first half of this movie because it's true. The drill instructors' job is to wear down the soldier and then build them up. I guess it went sideways for Pyle and Hartman, but the situation rings true.
Damn, you made me want to watch the film again, you Ghoul😂.
If you do watch it again, I hope you enjoy it! Unleash The Jules!
Somewhere I read that Joker was supposed to diin the end of the movie. But the actor and Kubrick talked and decided that living with all those experiences might have been worse than a “peaceful” deathin the war. As he will habe to carry that weight for the rest of his life
I'm pretty sure that the nickname of "Private Pyle" was a reference to the "Gomer Pyle Show", where he was literally a private in the Marine corps, not to his character on the "Andy Griffith Show".
It's the same character, played by the same person, but the situation in the later show matches the movie way more.
I had to pause at the 1:52 mark simply to say that's exactly how bootcamp is. At least when I was there in 2000. I was Navy and it wasn't any better. The only thing they don't mention in Full Metal Jacket is the 3 months of sleep deprivation they put us (and me) through. True story. Also not to pick your excellent video to pieces but they were Marines not Soldiers. I say that because any Jarhead I knew would throw a bitch fit if they watched this video.
During the Vietnam era you had a program called McNamara’s Morons which allows low-IQ troops to be there. PVT Pile can very well be a true story as McNamara’s Morons actually happened.
8:33 it's literally like those people that can watch someone fall to a train track and just pull out their phone and starts recording
I can remember the first time I watched this movie when it was released on VHS.
My brother and I said these guys have all got a screw loose to join up knowing that they are going to the worst of veitmam, and marines are bad ass.
not all. :)@Eidelmania
This movie is so deep like all Kubricks best. Master piece after master peice.
Man pyle death scene will always haunt me man. Straight up madness
Vincent D'Onofrio is a great actor. You could see him in 5 different movies and think you were watching 5 different actors. Gary Oldman is the same way.
As an Army veteran, I loved the Boot Camp sequence. The stuff with Gomer Pyle is for film making narrative. The rest of the verbal abuse and intense control of the platoon was SOP in my 1980s Basic Training experience. It was a rite of passage. It starts fierce but eases up as training progresses.
You NEED to do a Nightmare Fuel on Requiem For A Dream pls!
It's planned in!
You know, sergeant Hartman reminds me of someone. I’ll give you a hint…..
“It’d be funny if it weren’t so pathetic. Oh, what the heck, I’ll laugh anyway!”
Met him.
If you read the book, nobody ever gets the sniper. After the snippets eight all and the medic, cowboy comes to help and the sniper wounds cowboy to suck in more of the squad. Joker shoots cowboy to stop anyone else exposing themselves 😳
1:54 This is the norm in basic training for most combat jobs in the military (particularly the army and marine corps). In order to be an effective killer, you have to be broken dow and rebuilt into one.
The one thing as a kid my dad always bitched about was Pyle having a full magazine. Not how it works in any branch. You get a few rounds for the exercise you are doing, and you have to turn in your brass at that point. So you would get like, idk, say 20 rounds for the shooting drill and you had to turn in 20 brass casings
The greatest military movie ever made.
We really getting Vietnam experts with a Scottish accent before GTA VI
GTA 4? You mean GTA VI
Yes dammit 😩 I’m embarrassed that I only noticed just now
@@ares.arctic it's alright it was funny though to think even GTA 4 hasn't came out somehow
The peace sign is close to his heart, but the "born to kill" is close to his head. Your brain will always could what your heart may feel, and especially for a situation like Vietnam, the brain took over
Awesome video! Always loved this movie
Hope you do one about Casualties of War that there is real nightmare fuel. What those guys did to that woman is unforgivable.
HELL YEAH!!!!!
I finally got around to watching this one yesterday, and all I can say is, The Shining was not the only horror film Kubrick made. The first 40 minute section at the boot camp, and the final scene are just bone chilling. It’s a very unique take on an anti war message conveyed through the filmmaking and characterisation, I’ve heard some detractors of the film state the film is unsatisfying, and that is the point, ultimately showing the futility of war.
Very well done,
Thank you.
In my own experience, the drill instructor stood on a bed rail to point down at a taller Pvt. Pyle ish basic military trainee. It would’ve fit right in to this movie.
"when you hit a already broken rock, it breaks more."
If I recall correctly in the book the character representing Hartman (he has a different name which I don't remember) in his last breaths after being shot congratulates Pyle because he's finally become a killer. Hartman has somehow succeeded in making a good-hearted simpleton into a ruthless monster which was his objective from the start.
Lock socking is different and the same. Locks (master combo locks) were put in socks for the same result, however it is done because soap in towels leaves residue and chunky soap bits
Nightmare fuel next episode, American History X
Yes!
One reason R. Lee Ermy plays such a great Drill Sergeant?…..He was a real Marine Drill Sergeant irl
He was a Drill Instructor. Drill Sergeants are in the Army.
@@williamriley5118 oh i see.
@@williamriley5118 but the two comments above me also say “drill Sargent” also, in the movie “Jarhead” with Jake Gyllenhaal? All the crew recruits say “yes drill, sergeant!”
@@ckotcher1 I’m a former Marine. This I know.
@@williamriley5118 Well i don’t understand why every Marine movie they say “YES. DRILL. SARG. ANT!” Maybe because “YES. DRILL.INSTRUCTOR”!! doesn’t roll off the tongue lol. Who knows. 🤷🏼♀️
I didnt understand the movie when I was young, but I started to understand it 20 years later, then I would not stop watching some of the scenes, specially when Hartmann is killed by Gomer Pyle.
"Man, I hope they're fucking with us. I'm not ready for this shit."
Everyone coming in here like "did you know he was a drill instructor???" LITERALLY EVERYONE KNOWS
may i reccoment a move to make one of these videos on, a movie called emancipation set in 1863 louisiana
Thank you for the recommendation Tomcat!
I thought he should have answered Hartman calling him Pyle in the latrine,"My name is Leonard Lawrence!"I think if there had been a background story on Pyle,it would have been his father was a Marine and twisted his son's arm to join The Peace Corps would have been a better fit for Leonard Lawrence,a.k.a. Gomer Pyle.
FMJ also portrays soldiers as sociopathic predators who run in packs
Some of them are. Especially in the infantry and other combat units. Don't think they are boy scouts.
no it doesn't, and marines don't like to be called soldiers.
"in packs"? as opposed to what, alone?
@@plasticweaponmoron, he’s saying they lose their humanity and become like pack like Animals.
With all he went through, I'm honestly surprised he didn't take it out on the whole Platoon.
3:50 this was Nam Draft, fit or not, he was going to war on the front lines.(if you made it to boot camp, you were going to war, period) Drill Sgt knew this, tried to get him ready the way he knew how, only the way he knew wasn't really best for everyone
At 13:29 that soldiers finger is in the wrong place on a idle M-60 pig . movie spoiler LOL
It is Stress Innoculation, a nessesary component to survive in combat.
Idk about other the services but every Marine I served with, went by the nickname they got in USMC Boot Camp. Not everyone recieves one, only the ones that stand out to the DIs. I was Recuit Comedian, I also had to tell a joke every night and if the Drill Instructor on duty doesnt laugh, I'll have to pay for it in the morning.
Their matresses are REALLY really good for military standarts, i had like a 4th of that
Do military barrack quarter restrooms have partitions?
The best British Vietnam war film ever.
I was at Parris Island 1972
Fucking great video guys👍🏽💪🏽
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Quality video! So unfortunate that these aren't fantasy but reality moments and characters from our past and likely future.
thank you for listing the events of a movie
When Siran Siran says he doesn't remember shooting RFK, I believe that implicitly. It's quite simple. Pavlov knew.
pleas make a video on the movie the beast of war, it is servery underrated and not many people know of it but it is really good in my opinion
Hartmann would've been on the fraggers list
Everyone will say, the beginning is the bes tpart, and it is all because of Vincent
I actually like the name private cowboy 😂 since im from Texas, i would use that name loud and proud
I seen several boys be conditioned into unhinged killing machines if you allow yourself to be brainwashed you certainly will become a robot . I just followed all instructions and made sure I was pristine at PT and my boot camp was reasonable and even though i rarely made a mistake I got my fair share of screaming in my face DI Thomas was my DI he was a midnight black guy 5”9 155 pound little tyrant and I can still hear his screaming 30 years later in my nightmares 😂 they have a really hard job making boys into soldiers there’s many of the recruits that had no business being in the military let alone the marines my poor nephew was unable to graduate and was sent home after 3 weeks and 2 weeks in a mental health facility they really did a number on him mentall I tried to convince him to join the air force but he insisted on USMC because of me
And 9 year old me didn't realise that sh t.
Now 10 years later on the other side...
Another big theme in the movie is the forced equalization of sexual desire with desire to kill. You can see in the boot camp scenes of how they were being indoctrinated into treating their weapon as their lover, they were made to sing "this is my rifle, this is my gun, this is for fighting, this is for fun" while holding their weapon with one hand and their private parts with the other" . There is probably a few more instances that i cant remember in the first half but these are the ones i remember. This has clear results in the 2nd act, when they talk about killing someone , they say "f$ck him/her" like in the last scene with the nva girl.
This is something that was actually used in the past because the military wanted to take advantage of the fact that sexual instinct is a natural desire and indoctrinate the men into equating it with killing. That way they are really made "born to kill"
In the book the sargent congratates pile on becoming a killer because his training had worked.
Great movie but what advisor on set suggested using an AK47 as a sniper's weapon?
it's a Czech-made Sa vz. 58.
Basic Training/Bootcamp and your first year in your first command will be the worst years in your military career. You are trying to adjust in an environment that you are required to know while facing ongoing pressure.
I don’t like looking too deep into movies… but that last quote was some Socrates shit.
wait until this bloke finds out usmc boot camp is exactly like this
Personally, i always thought he named him "Pyle" because he viewed him as a Pile of Shit
Have you watched jarhead yet?
Not for the channel! Though can certainly be covered!
Full metal Micky
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Ha, yeah, that’s Marine Corps boot camp
Pretty close to the army, too