FULL METAL JACKET | The Consequences of Conditioning
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🍿 Full Metal Jacket (1987) is NIGHTMARE FUEL
🎬 Connor heads back into the Vietnam War with Stanley Kubrick's psychological masterpiece. Starring Matthew Modine, Vincent D'Onofrio, and a career-best performance from R. Lee Ermey, the Nightmare Fuel comes here from multiple directions.
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R Lee Ermey himself fought in Vietnam, and was a staff sergeant for a short time during his last years as a Marine. So he was a perfect choice as Drill Sergeant Hartmann.
No he was an actual Drill Sergeant as well.
He was originally going to be just the advisor to the movie and his name is in the credits as the advisor. The actor who played the door gunner who shouted "get-some" was going to be the drill instructor, but the role ended up going to R Lee Ermey. Fun fact, he improvised most of his lines in the movie, the fact he was a drill instructor probably made it all the more easier. He also played a helicopter pilot in the movie "Apocalypse Now" during the famous helicopter scene.
His title gunnery Sargent comes from the day of retirement he is lead to the parade grounds and too his complete surprise after being awarded service medals for his commitment to the corps the master sergeant and the commandant approached he was awarded the rank gunnery sergeant
His honorary promotion to Gunnery Sergeant was well-deserved. His actual retired rank was E-6, Staff Sergeant.
He was a Drill Instructor. Drill Sergeants are in the Army.
One comment that R. Lee Ermey made when interviewed about this movie is that stuff like Hartmann did in Full Metal Jacket would *never* fly in actual boot camp. It's harsh, but any sergeant that struck their recruits would very quickly find themselves on the pointy end of a court martial, and would *completely* lose their respect before they got tossed in a military prison. They're also limited in the amount of abuse they can dish out, even for Marine boot camp in a time of war. The way Ermey played Hartmann was deliberately over the top, someone who got into his job too much and became unhinged far, far before Private Pyle did.
He'd also pointed out that every single live round was accounted for during gunnery training. You got 6 live rounds, you produced six casings afterward or you'd be held until they were found - for *precisely* the reason that the movie illustrated. Pyle could NEVER have smuggled those live rounds into the barracks had any of the NCOs been doing their job. And even if he had, any Gunnery Sergeant worth their salt would immediately have called out a squad of MPs to take him down. That he thought it appropriate to go after Pyle solo and unarmed, and start out by *insulting him,* showed just how far both of them were gone. That whole boot camp was a cloud of dysfunction, starting with Hartmann. It could only end in one way - death.
I graduated Parris Island in 04. None of our DIs were as rough as Gunny Hartman, but I got roughed up one or twice, and grabbed by the throat when I got into it with another recruit. Before this soft clown world generation, DIs would definitely put their hands on recruits. It was hard training, and we were better for it and so was the Corps.
@@TarawaS2000 Far as I know DIs WERE allowed to put their hands on recruits back then - Ermey was saying they weren't allowed to actually STRIKE them. That's what the infamous blanket parties were for in the first place - to get physical in a way the DI wasn't allowed to even back then.
and countless other marines (as well as an inquiry conducted into marine boot camp training practices in the wake of this film's release) said that it was worse.
@@plasticweapon Apparently at least the real boot camps knew enough to track their live rounds, as AFAIK not too many DIs got themselves shot during that period. It was the idiot COs that got fragged instead.
@@ArchTeryx00and it's absolutely not true that it could "only end in death". i also feel like you overestimate the number of COs who were fragged, and have too fixed an idea about why. marines are not school shooters.
The Mickey Mouse song has often been sung in our household when the kids were on the edge of succumbing to peer pressure. It was always a wonderful "step back and have a frank conversation" moment for the family.
Along the way it was definitely played back on us. It also lasted long enough to influence our eldest grandkid, too.
Its hard for me to appreciate this film as an anti-war film because as a 90s kid who went to highschool in the 2000s it was pretty much the favorite of all the JROTC kids who ended up fighting in Iraq despite the fact we all graduated well after we discovered the war was started on false pretenses and there were no weapons of mass destruction. The message was completely lost.
Same as with _Wall Street_ ... everybody thinks Gekko is a hero when he's really a loser.
As a former Army Soldier, I always saw Marines as the guys who maybe like the job too much. And for a lot of it, that's true. You don't make E5 in the Marines unless you're gung-ho as fuck. They don't like half-assers like me in their branch at all lol. But the reality past that? There's a lot of guys who find themselves signing up for it and realizing very much that isn't what they want, and the Marines are basically designed as a psy-op to break guys like that down to re-form them out of clay. Which is the unique condition in that branch that the other branches just don't do.
So I've always been a little wary of the people who do that job. They feel like there's a little boy on a milk carton somewhere that represents the person a Marine used to be.
"They feel like there's a little boy on a milk carton somewhere that represents the person a Marine used to be."
Damn, that's deep...
@@duglife2230that’s what she said
No, a lot of them hate it. That's why the Marine Corps has the lowest re-enlistment rate in the US military.
Don't fall for the hype. The USMC has the same issues, worse in some ways, with leadership as the Army.
The reason it's harder to make rank in the USMC is because the bottleneck is lower than the Army and the Marine Corps assigns more responsibility at lower ranks (some think that's a bragging point, it's actually being paid less for the same job, while being less experienced and mature).
@@MG-wk2eh I went to the Marine recruiter and all I could think is 'and they pay you guys the SAME for this?'. That guy was such an aggressive jerk, too.
They definitely don't want empathetic or compassionate people in their ranks. That guy was in that job of recruiter to weed out Jojo Rabbits like me. Not even kidding. The Army can handle people like me because it's about team effort but the Marines needs killers who can operate independently. And I like myself knowing that it's not for me.
@@Stand_By_For_Mind_Control Bro, anyone in infantry/combat arms is a killer. Army or Marine Corps. Marine POGs are not killers, no matter how much shit they talk about all Marines being riflemen because they went to shortened and easy version of SOI after boot camp and never drilled again.
Finally, someone calls Hartman a Drill Instructor and not a Drill Sergeant.
Yup. A Senior Drill Instructor to boot.
Gotta stick up for some of the war correspondents. It's not always about getting the scoop. It's about documenting history. Recording the ugly truth of what's really happening.
Thank you for saying this as it wasn't an angle I'd previously considered!
Because Lyndon B Johnson wanted a definitive Military Victory by 1970, the Military was actively drafting soldiers including kids who were barely in their teens. Marin boot camp typically is 12 weeks long. They shortened it to 8 weeks (Joker refers to the Marines as an 8-week college for the Phony tough) so they could rapidly deploy soldiers. To compensate they made these training camps more brutal mentally and physically. As an end result, not only was Uncle Sam sending substandard soldiers, some were already experiencing PTSD already even before they did any fighting just as you see here. Adding insult to the Injury, corrupt politicians and their business partners wanted to profit from the war, they were rush manufacturing weapons and equipment. Many of those M16 rifles would malfunction after a little dust. So in the end, Johnson really ruined a lot of American lives.
It's been acknowledged recently that during the Vietnam War there were recruits who were brought into the ranks who normally would not have been taken due to their intelligence or maturity levels. It was the plan of Secretary of Defense McNamara who adopted it from a different program which was actually intended to give jobs and training through the military for such people rather than use them as cannon fodder. However, they became cannon fodder because that was how they were used. They were called "McNamara's Idiots" and like Gomer they often needed assistance doing things and became targets. As in the movie some turned on their superior officers killing them which in Vietnam (maybe other wars as well) was called "Fragging" due to the fact fragmentation grenades were often used. I think now days they might simply discharge someone like Gomer rather than risk him being somewhere where is a threat to himself and other, but from what I hear they still get people who shouldn't be in the service who get in anyways.
"mcnamara's morons"
Prvt.Pile was the direct result of McNamara’s Morons. It was a real thing.
Yeah, the DOD purposely sent. People who were unfit for combat into combat for a quota.
Except Leonard becomes the best in his barracks. Animal Mother is another.
I went through basic training in 1989 and totally loved the first half of this movie because it's true. The drill instructors' job is to wear down the soldier and then build them up. I guess it went sideways for Pyle and Hartman, but the situation rings true.
Damn, you made me want to watch the film again, you Ghoul😂.
If you do watch it again, I hope you enjoy it! Unleash The Jules!
Can you believe R lee almost didnt get that role he was an advisor and he showed how he would do it and kubrick hired him on the spot
I served in the Marine Corps and I went to Boot Camp at Parris Island, South Carolina. This was a very accurate depiction of what Marine Corps recruits have to deal with. But there were 2 more Drill Instructors or in my case 3 Drill Instructors because I was in 3rd Battalion. I also served in Operation Desert Storm but it was much different that the Vietnam War as depicted in this movie.
one of the best war movies ever
💯💯👍👍
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This is my most favorite movie of all time
I think this film is a fascinating study into the demystification of being a soldier, in most war stories war is seen as a brave thing where you will be thanked and given medals and even get to varnish a salute with your coat of gold and honours but full metal shows the cold reality of what its like to have your humanity stripped as instinct of the killing machine of man and the urge to survive takes over. a really powerful film indeed and thank you guys for covering it 👍😊
Also can I request that you look at the film Barefoot Gen at some point it takes place in Japan during the second world war and it focuses on a family after surviving the hiroshima bomb its an anime
That's a brilliant outlook Josh!
Sometimes I wonder how many times a young Wes Anderson watched this movie, specifically the first half - the square framed shots, the relatively pastel colour schemes, the moments that are so uncomfortable that you kind of laugh about it - it does feel like a psychotic Anderson movie to me at times.
Great analysis of one of the most searing examinations of war ever
Thank you Soul! It's a fascinating film
Just found this channel whilst binging Stalingrad (1993). Too tired to write a long comment rn so I’ll just say that I’m glad to have found the channel and your analysis on movies is great
YAS! Been waiting for this one.
Hope it was worth the wait Jaq!
One reason R. Lee Ermy plays such a great Drill Sergeant?…..He was a real Marine Drill Sergeant irl
He was a Drill Instructor. Drill Sergeants are in the Army.
As an Army veteran, I loved the Boot Camp sequence. The stuff with Gomer Pyle is for film making narrative. The rest of the verbal abuse and intense control of the platoon was SOP in my 1980s Basic Training experience. It was a rite of passage. It starts fierce but eases up as training progresses.
Full Metal Jacket was beyond amazing. Great analysis on this topic. We will always support you.
Thank you Sophia!
thank you for listing the events of a movie
There are a few things I'd like to point out from experience, having graduated from Parris Island in 1975 (Battalion A, Company A, Series 168, Platoon 169...some things you never forget). There were three drill instructors per platoon. The Senior Drill Instructor is not the nastiest DI, it is the second, or what we would call the Heavy. The third DI was also rough, but not as rough, sort of a very bad cop/bad cop situation. The SDI ran the operation and was tough for sure, but the DI directly under him was the meanest, at least in my training platoon. Also, these men are not soldiers--soldiers are in the Army, and in fact they are not marines until they graduate. Until graduation day, they are recruits. At 5:43 Pyle is shown totally screwing up at the first obstacle on the 11-obstacle confidence course (it may have been 10 back in the time period shown). That was given the name "ball buster." If you look closely, you will see large bolts protruding from the metal straps used to mount the top log to the bottom logs. If you try to climb over the obstacle by using that area (so your legs won't swing under and pull you down), the protrusions are just at the right height to smash your balls if not careful. The best way to clear that obstacle is to approach just to the right of the post, jump up while kicking out a leg to catch the post and stop the forward momentum of your legs while pulling yourself up with your arms. Easy. The confidence course was fun actually. 1:16 is most likely showing part of the initial physical fitness test (PFT). 3:03 and 3:14 is also part of the confidence course, though the 1x10's were replaced with actual logs by the time I was there.
I believe it was Emery who said that a Gunnery Sergeant who behaves as sadistically as Hartman, would not get away with his antics, even during wartime.
Very well done,
Thank you.
The only thing inaccurate I notice about this movie is there are multiple DIs training and destroying recruits and making them into Marines instead of just one DI doing all the work
9:19 I met the dead NVA actor's son during my training in the British army.
Hope you do one about Casualties of War that there is real nightmare fuel. What those guys did to that woman is unforgivable.
Vincent D'Onofrio is a great actor. You could see him in 5 different movies and think you were watching 5 different actors. Gary Oldman is the same way.
HELL YEAH!!!!!
"From a young man with a clouded mind, to his mind being splattered all over the tiles"
Someone should have told him "friendly fire" was on.
I didnt understand the movie when I was young, but I started to understand it 20 years later, then I would not stop watching some of the scenes, specially when Hartmann is killed by Gomer Pyle.
You NEED to do a Nightmare Fuel on Requiem For A Dream pls!
It's planned in!
Man pyle death scene will always haunt me man. Straight up madness
Pretty famous movie, I am ashamed to admit this is another classic I have never seen it haha
If you read the book, nobody ever gets the sniper. After the snippets eight all and the medic, cowboy comes to help and the sniper wounds cowboy to suck in more of the squad. Joker shoots cowboy to stop anyone else exposing themselves 😳
I can remember the first time I watched this movie when it was released on VHS.
My brother and I said these guys have all got a screw loose to join up knowing that they are going to the worst of veitmam, and marines are bad ass.
They were drafted
not all. :)@@Eidelmania
The greatest military movie ever made.
Its not conditioning, its training to survive the most crazy stuff your mind will ever see and how to deal with constantly being screwed with. as an us army veteran that went through the last combat engineer unit that was just as hands on and we actually had a pvt pile and we took care of before he went crazy, his name was Walls he was a blefalcon and everyone kept an eye on him. Had to give him a blanket party, forced him to wash out so we didn't have the same problem go down.
This movie is so deep like all Kubricks best. Master piece after master peice.
It’s thanks to this movie that I have my height memorized by heart! 😂
I don’t want to traumatize and depress you too much, but ever thought of doing a Nightmare Fuel on Requiem for a Dream? That’s a movie I rented and seen only once. I came back and saw that there was a generous discount to buy the movie on iTunes, but thought “NOPE! Not worth it!”
I believe he already has?? Or he’s at least talked about it. I’ve struggled with addiction and I’ve been in both Marion (a relationship that becomes toxic because they are both putting the drugs before the other person), and Sarah Goldfarb’s position… an older woman (in my 40’s not my 60’s(?) like her, desperate and isolated with no one’s company but the tv and myself going through withdrawals. After being cut off from treatment for fybromyalgia and severe spinal stenosis after a car wreck. (I know Sarah was on diet pills which is different but that’s besides the point)…..I’d say without question the Sarah Goldfarb situation is much much worse. The situation with my boyfriend but in the beginning there were moments of love and at least we had each-other. so I didn’t freak out became toxic and co dependent (and didn’t end up with his arm being amputated) he was just a selfish bast ard who introduced others to substances and had no problem over time stealing from those closest to him and watching the aftermath 💀, jail etc that he essentially created by dragging those people down with him with apathy and impunity. Sarah Goldfarb had a ver lonely isolated existence and was past the point of anyone caring especially her inept, apathetic Dr. who wouldn’t even look her in the eye. I remember her post addiction not understanding what was happening to her and the cold Dr just saying “nothing to worry about just get these filled” and leaving the room after about 30 seconds. And the Dr. and staff at the psyc hospital were even worse! She is an example of how the medical system completely fail’s people and ruins their lives instead of saving them then completely turn their backs. Ellen Burstyn was beyond amazing in that part. Probably one of the best performances ever put to film if not the best.
That movie was so chillingly accurate I’ll never be able to watch it again
@@ckotcher1 I tried looking, but I don’t think they made the video.
So sorry you went through all that. Hope you’re doing better or are heading that direction.
I've not made a video on Requiem just yet but it's definitely going to get covered!
@@UnleashTheGhouls uh oh….Bracing myself 💊
Fucking great video guys👍🏽💪🏽
Thank you!
In my own experience, the drill instructor stood on a bed rail to point down at a taller Pvt. Pyle ish basic military trainee. It would’ve fit right in to this movie.
The best British Vietnam war film ever.
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may i reccoment a move to make one of these videos on, a movie called emancipation set in 1863 louisiana
Thank you for the recommendation Tomcat!
“The alive know only one thing: it is better to be dead.”
Nightmare fuel next episode, American History X
I finally got around to watching this one yesterday, and all I can say is, The Shining was not the only horror film Kubrick made. The first 40 minute section at the boot camp, and the final scene are just bone chilling. It’s a very unique take on an anti war message conveyed through the filmmaking and characterisation, I’ve heard some detractors of the film state the film is unsatisfying, and that is the point, ultimately showing the futility of war.
Quality video! So unfortunate that these aren't fantasy but reality moments and characters from our past and likely future.
I had to pause at the 1:52 mark simply to say that's exactly how bootcamp is. At least when I was there in 2000. I was Navy and it wasn't any better. The only thing they don't mention in Full Metal Jacket is the 3 months of sleep deprivation they put us (and me) through. True story. Also not to pick your excellent video to pieces but they were Marines not Soldiers. I say that because any Jarhead I knew would throw a bitch fit if they watched this video.
FMJ also portrays soldiers as sociopathic predators who run in packs
Some of them are. Especially in the infantry and other combat units. Don't think they are boy scouts.
no it doesn't, and marines don't like to be called soldiers.
"in packs"? as opposed to what, alone?
@@plasticweaponmoron, he’s saying they lose their humanity and become like pack like Animals.
Now kids are doing things like this in school. Like that Kid who killed his Spanish teacher just because she gave him a bad grade.
One thing is that you can't degrade and use those kind of treatments in the beloved Core. Because everyone's Mental Stages are different and can cause a Catastrophe you just seen.
Marine boot camp is this strict and then some. Its that way because it conditions your to be able to conduct yourself in the culture of the marine corps. Everyone of every rank in the marine corps is being micromanaged by someone else.
The nicknames given in Boot Camp are done in humor rather than hate, that said Gomer Pyle had his own show called Gomer Pyle USMC. PTSD was a condition created by pacifists to get soldiers who survive a conflict to regret surviving the conflict without the catalyst of Survivor's Guilt courtesy of the fact that pacifists never understand why conflicts happen so they want soldiers who come home from a conflict to regret the fact that they came back from a conflict alive
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Full metal Micky
At 13:29 that soldiers finger is in the wrong place on a idle M-60 pig . movie spoiler LOL
Actually the dead don’t know anything. They’re dead.😵
Great movie but what advisor on set suggested using an AK47 as a sniper's weapon?
it's a Czech-made Sa vz. 58.
Ha, yeah, that’s Marine Corps boot camp
Pretty close to the army, too
I found the 2nd part better
Have you watched jarhead yet?
Not for the channel! Though can certainly be covered!
He writes BORN TO KILL on his helmet but wears a peace symbol🤣
Me love you long time.
I had a one night stand with this chick in college, she wanted to watch a movie after we got done playing “hide the salami”.
She wanted to watch Sailor Moon, I insisted on Full Metal Jacket, needless to say I didn’t hear from her again after that
That’s tough, man
Why wasn't the feeble mindedness of Private Pile noticed and shouldn't he therefore have been exempt from any military duty?
The DOD and Secretary of Defense McNamara needed their military quota.
It was the 1960s, most military men would've had attitudes like the one Hartmann had. That the guy is just being a lazy shitbag and needs more discipline and motivation.
General Patton in WW2 slapped soldiers exhibiting signs of PTSD and thought they were just being lazy and malingering.
Do pacfic hbo. Or hacksaw ridge
Thank you for the recommendation Simon!
Realisticly pyle killing hartman and himself is where any other movie would end but fmj keeps it going even longer
realistically, no feature length movie ends after 40 minutes.
@@plasticweapon no not run time wise I was saying toneally like pyle killing hartman and himself is where any other movie would end but the film keeps goi g into the war itself showing that even though this tragedy happened no one was sent hime or given an easy time they still went to fight
Another 20 something from the UK telling folks about things before their lifetime.
Iam in a world of shit
The acting during the bathroom scene was… just kind of off. It felt far too overdramatized
yeah, right. go be a film critic, they're never satisfied.
Is anybody else laughing that a Brit is making a commentarty on how our American D.I.'s are "cruel and unfair"? Well, it may not be the case anymore with Gen Z, but you'd be speaking German right now if our military hadn't been as badass way back in the day. But it's gotten cushier since WWII, sadly.
Not really that nightmarish
The narrator is a civilian.
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Listening to civilians talk about Boot Camp always makes me laugh.
It is 1000% necessary Gunny Hartman did what he did. It is 1000% necessary that you are under that pressure.
Civilians in the 1st world have absolutely no understanding of reality. Life isnt a university classroom while we figure out our genders and share our emotions and talk about our vaginas. Life is brutal and in the military, you will have to face lifes brutality one way or another.
If guys came in off the street and had no shock to their senses, when they actually do experience real shit in the real world, they have nothing mentally to fall back on.
Hartman wasnt a villain in FMJ... Civilians think he is because civilians dont understand the military and what day to day life is really like
How is this non profit when the funds are going into your creator account to buy beer? This is Copyright infringement. You know what your doing, I can see by how you have webbed the response to make it unclear. Profit based is for buying beer, which is personal use. Where is your Nonprofit licenses # ?
Look at that, putting your personal pay pal account and then the fundraiser to Donate on the side, I Hope you get an Audit on your account and the money is given to this non-profit organization. THIS IS ILLEGAL AND YOU KNOW IT.
WHY WOULD YOU NOT JUST PUT THEIR ACCOUNT? your taking off the top.
The final climactic act is reminiscent of the Steel Helmet by Sam Fuller.
Iam in a world of shit