@@Ma1ne2 - I actually agree with this group. I don't tend to let my background music get quite this loud. It will also depend largely on whether or not you use headphones. But thank you Maine!!!
I bought my RingConn Gen II in June. I love it, it allows me to wear my watch collection and still collect the data I want. I just don’t think the 3+ months I’ve had the Gen I warrants me upgrading right now. I would agree- the battery. Life is crazy in the newest one, the first gen isn’t bad compared to the competition and the sleep apnea feature doesn’t really do me any good. I applaud them pushing and developing better tech. I just hope they still provide software upgrades to both gen rings for a while.
Yes, I agree. Hopefully they'll continue to serve software to the older model. It doesn't feel like a massive upgrade to me. The thinner size is nice but only if the larger sizes are bugging you. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Hi does it read and alert any irregular heartbeat or arrhythmia? Apart from sleep apnea, are there any early detection of health related issues that the Gen 2 provides? I'm contemplating of getting one but not sure if it's entirely necessary. The only difference I see between the ring and a smart watch, it that I can wear the ring to bed and it can detect my sleep apnea. Otherwise they're basically the same wearables, or the ring has more to offer? Please help me decide. Thanks
Yeah, I think the main benefit is being able to wear this to bed compared to the watch. Otherwise, your watch can track a lot of this exact same data. And no, I don't think this does alerts for irregular heartbeats. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Great comparison review. It appears, the Oura Ring (first of this kind) is falling behind quickly (...subscription model is helping kill its market share).
Dude, way to go and glad your scored the 2nd gen RingConn. I did the pre-order about a week ago for $1.00. Nice review, Matt 😎 I do not snore, and I am lucky enough to not have sleep apnea. Pretty cool that RingConn is augmenting their game. See a doctor? Yes, a fabulous recommendation.
Can you provide some insight on how the durability of future silver compares to matte black? Also, how scratch-resistant is matte black with daily use?
So far this silver has been extremely scratch-resistant. Which is interesting because titanium does tend to scratch easily. I think RingConn also makes a protective case or something odd like that for these rings. I guess you'd use it if you were lifting weights or doing something where you might scratch it up? 🤔
I tend to take a little too long to make videos and produce less content than some of the other channels out there. I don't think that's the 'best' way to grow a channel but I'm enjoying the way I'm doing things for now. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
@@oilindustri - Yeah, that is correct. I also coach a high school team of about 120 distance runners. Life is busy but good. Maybe some day the RUclips stuff will pick up and I can focus on it a little bit more. It's super fun.
Big warning to everyone! I ordered about 2 months ago and haven't received my sizing kit...I tried to cancel my order and request a refund (no ring has been shipped, as mentioned not even the sizing kit has arrived) and they refuse! Horrible customer service!
This is super important for people to see. I'm super sorry that this has been such a pain. I wonder if you can reach out to your credit card company or something. 🤷♂️
I backed up first RingConn on indiegogo and backed the second one on KS, and I’m excited. I used to be an Oura user, but no longer use that one. I just don’t know which color to get now. I loved matte black, but may end up getting gold again. 😅
Yeah, it’s fun to mix up the colors. And I think the RingConn is a bit better value when compared to the Oura. I did like the Oura app but I’m fine with this one. I also have a really hard time with yet another subscription. 😬 Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Well, it's just me testing this so maybe I'm sleeping well but it seems more like Oura or 50-100. More like a grading scale maybe? Are you testing this one? Hope you are well!!!
Yeah, the pledge thing is super weird. I’ve always received Kickstarter items when I’ve pledged but there’s no guarantee that they’ll get fully funded and then no guarantee on when you’ll get items. There is a risk for sure. 😬
That’s one of my issues. It doesn’t really distinguish between workouts and daily wear. There is a ring called the Amazfit Helio that sorta tries to do this. But that doesn’t work super well either. I’d say be patient on the smart ring purchase. If you have a great watch and it’s comfortable, I’d hold off and see if Apple does something interesting at some point. Although Apple has its own lock in issues to consider as well. 😑
I'd say that I personally prefer the UltraHuman at this point because of the notifications and suggestions but it's such a subtle difference. They basically track the same information. I agree that it's really hard to beat the price. I also really like the RingConn carrying case. I'd also haven't tested customer service between the two. That'd be interesting.
Gret review. One thing I was thinking of was did you do any weight lifting with it on and the protective case? I know one Oura ring review said not to lift with it on I was wondering what it would feel like.
For sleep, I don’t like to sleep with a watch on. Other than that , I agree a watch can do everything and usually better. The fitness aspects of the rings are not super great yet.
100% agree. And I don’t mind sleeping with a watch but some people really have a hard time with it. Although I haven’t seen sleep apnea tracking on any device yet.
Hey, thanks for the video. Could you try out the ring while swimming? I would love to see what stats you can get out of it, even though it doesn't have a swimming activity tracker
Hello, I am new to the Ring product line. Does this particular series of smart rings provide blood pressure information? Additionally, is it possible to make payments using NFC technology with this ring?
Hi Matthew 👋, currently no smart ring products provide blood pressure information. If a watch or ring is saying that they do, I would be high suspicious of the brand. I also have not seen NFC payments on a ring. I have however seen that on a few smart watches. Apple Pay, Garmin Pay, Google Pay, etc. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
It’s not as accurate as a chest strap and it’s not exactly designed to sync to activities. I’m also in the middle of reviewing a ring called the Amazfit Helio which does sync to an activity started on your smart phone. 🤷🏻♂️
I probably would save my money. The first gen does all of the important stuff. Unless you want the smaller form factor or just want a second ring option. That $209 is pretty remarkable.
I've found that marketing departments will claim that it's much more accurate than optical heart rate sensors on watches but in my experiences rings are not as accurate as watches for tracking heart rate in challenging environments. So it kind of depends. When sleeping or at rest, it's good. When playing tennis, for example, it'd be really really bad. But so would every other ring on the market.
Actually, that's a good suggestion. 150 days is way more than enough. I very rarely travel for more than 2 weeks at a time. Maybe RingConn could offer a second smaller option? A bit more pocket sized?
I think it depends. The RingConn is more affordable and has a longer battery life but I do prefer the data and messaging on the UltraHuman Air ring. 🤷🏻♂️
@@Ciprful - It is really impossible to measure accuracy without being able to export specific heart rate for an activity into a format similar to something like .fit. I don't think I discussed accuracy in this video.
@@mlegrand I do not own any but I am on verge which one I should pick (as a newcomer, I conclude that it is a new hardware and could be more advanced, but if UH still leads in metrics of data and larger "coaching" health, I would rather pay extra for UH
Caution as they have a terrible return policy. They will not accept a return for almost any reason other than wrong size (only if you used a sizing kit) and if damaged upon delivery. I tried to return as I need afib detection (which I did not know when I ordered) and they refused to take back. I contacted them the day I received the ring and they still said not a valid reason for return. In addition the return policy is only good for 14 days. Buyer beware.
I think the main difference is the size and styles of the new devices. This provides a lot of the same metrics but also provides sleep apnea detection. That being said, I'm wouldn't recommend upgrading unless you're really needing something in here that's new.
@@mlegrand Yes, I care about the number of apnea, as I use a Sepap device for night breathing. Is there that in the old ring or wait for the new version?
@@royal1- That's a little unclear from RingConn. I'll reach out and ask them for you but I do think the new ring is optimized for the sleep apnea metric. If it were me and this feature was important to me, I think I'd wait for the second generation device.
Yes, hold off. A lot of watches show similar metrics. Some people struggle to sleep with watches but it doesn’t bug me too much. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
I just got the Oura ring and I really don’t like the health advice, or changing my activity goals based on my readiness score. I just want a ring that shows me my daily metrics…I do not want a health coach. Sounds like the Ring Conn is the ring to get. Oura should have an option to disable advice and only show stats
Yeah, it’d be nice to see a lot more enable/disable options on all of these watches. People like to customize their experience. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
They gonna add paywall soon, maybe as ultra human, or different. CEO even mentioned that sleep apnea will be avaiable behind pay wall x). Having no subscription and not doing new accesories like watch, sugar meter etc... the company cannot survive, maybe if they release one ring every year but... We will see, atm am sad that they are not transparent about future pay walls.
I’m not sure you need a smart ring if you’re comfortable with a decent smart watch. I personally feel like the Garmin data is a bit more accurate. Hard to say because I couldn’t export out data from this and compare it to a known good. 👍
Sorry that the music got a little loud on this one!
Music is a bit too loud for me.
Sorry about that. I'll try to correct that in future video. 😬
@@mlegrand hire an editor like me instead :)
@@newbiegain117 - Where can I see your work? Is it on par with the editing work that I do on this channel?
I find the music loudness great btw
@@Ma1ne2 - I actually agree with this group. I don't tend to let my background music get quite this loud. It will also depend largely on whether or not you use headphones. But thank you Maine!!!
May I make a slight suggestion, I was actually enjoying your review till the damn background music got louder than you
Thanks for the suggestion. I’ll fix this in the next video. 🙏
I bought my RingConn Gen II in June. I love it, it allows me to wear my watch collection and still collect the data I want. I just don’t think the 3+ months I’ve had the Gen I warrants me upgrading right now. I would agree- the battery. Life is crazy in the newest one, the first gen isn’t bad compared to the competition and the sleep apnea feature doesn’t really do me any good. I applaud them pushing and developing better tech. I just hope they still provide software upgrades to both gen rings for a while.
Yes, I agree. Hopefully they'll continue to serve software to the older model. It doesn't feel like a massive upgrade to me. The thinner size is nice but only if the larger sizes are bugging you. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Hi does it read and alert any irregular heartbeat or arrhythmia? Apart from sleep apnea, are there any early detection of health related issues that the Gen 2 provides? I'm contemplating of getting one but not sure if it's entirely necessary. The only difference I see between the ring and a smart watch, it that I can wear the ring to bed and it can detect my sleep apnea. Otherwise they're basically the same wearables, or the ring has more to offer? Please help me decide. Thanks
Yeah, I think the main benefit is being able to wear this to bed compared to the watch. Otherwise, your watch can track a lot of this exact same data. And no, I don't think this does alerts for irregular heartbeats. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Great comparison review. It appears, the Oura Ring (first of this kind) is falling behind quickly (...subscription model is helping kill its market share).
I’m not a fan of subscription services selling me my own health data. But that’s just me. You do you. 😬
@@mlegrand Yep, I don't like subscription models. You buy the product then you have to rent it to use it.
Dude, way to go and glad your scored the 2nd gen RingConn. I did the pre-order about a week ago for $1.00. Nice review, Matt 😎 I do not snore, and I am lucky enough to not have sleep apnea. Pretty cool that RingConn is augmenting their game. See a doctor? Yes, a fabulous recommendation.
Thank you!!!
@@mlegrand And you are... most welcome.
Can you provide some insight on how the durability of future silver compares to matte black? Also, how scratch-resistant is matte black with daily use?
So far this silver has been extremely scratch-resistant. Which is interesting because titanium does tend to scratch easily. I think RingConn also makes a protective case or something odd like that for these rings. I guess you'd use it if you were lifting weights or doing something where you might scratch it up? 🤔
How do you not get more views man your channel is great
I tend to take a little too long to make videos and produce less content than some of the other channels out there. I don't think that's the 'best' way to grow a channel but I'm enjoying the way I'm doing things for now. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
@@mlegrand Makes sense. I think I remember you stating in another video you had another full time job and a family so yeah...
@@oilindustri - Yeah, that is correct. I also coach a high school team of about 120 distance runners. Life is busy but good. Maybe some day the RUclips stuff will pick up and I can focus on it a little bit more. It's super fun.
Agree
Big warning to everyone! I ordered about 2 months ago and haven't received my sizing kit...I tried to cancel my order and request a refund (no ring has been shipped, as mentioned not even the sizing kit has arrived) and they refuse!
Horrible customer service!
This is super important for people to see. I'm super sorry that this has been such a pain. I wonder if you can reach out to your credit card company or something. 🤷♂️
I backed up first RingConn on indiegogo and backed the second one on KS, and I’m excited. I used to be an Oura user, but no longer use that one. I just don’t know which color to get now. I loved matte black, but may end up getting gold again. 😅
Yeah, it’s fun to mix up the colors. And I think the RingConn is a bit better value when compared to the Oura. I did like the Oura app but I’m fine with this one. I also have a really hard time with yet another subscription. 😬 Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Great review all around. Do you find the scores to generally be between 50-100 like Oura/Ultrahuman, or more 0-100 like Whoop/Garmin?
Well, it's just me testing this so maybe I'm sleeping well but it seems more like Oura or 50-100. More like a grading scale maybe? Are you testing this one? Hope you are well!!!
I don’t understand the pledge thing on kickstarter. Do I for sure get the ring if I pledge? I’ve never dealt with that before
Yeah, the pledge thing is super weird. I’ve always received Kickstarter items when I’ve pledged but there’s no guarantee that they’ll get fully funded and then no guarantee on when you’ll get items. There is a risk for sure. 😬
🗣️Cmon Garmin Drop that Ring or Band!!!
Seriously!
I guess that they don't want to cannibalize their own smart watch market.
It gets harder and harder to resist a smart ring. Doh! I would be curious what data would look like while taken during a triathlon.
That’s one of my issues. It doesn’t really distinguish between workouts and daily wear. There is a ring called the Amazfit Helio that sorta tries to do this. But that doesn’t work super well either.
I’d say be patient on the smart ring purchase. If you have a great watch and it’s comfortable, I’d hold off and see if Apple does something interesting at some point. Although Apple has its own lock in issues to consider as well. 😑
@@mlegrand bummer…that just made me want any ring less now lol
Tentatively backed both this one and the Nova Smart Crystal. Will decide between the two before the campaigns end.
What’s the Nova Smart Crystal all about?
Do you think this is better than ultra human? It’s hard to avoid RingConn price even if it’s 8/10 compared to ultra human
I'd say that I personally prefer the UltraHuman at this point because of the notifications and suggestions but it's such a subtle difference. They basically track the same information. I agree that it's really hard to beat the price. I also really like the RingConn carrying case. I'd also haven't tested customer service between the two. That'd be interesting.
Gret review. One thing I was thinking of was did you do any weight lifting with it on and the protective case? I know one Oura ring review said not to lift with it on I was wondering what it would feel like.
I did some light stuff and didn’t see any scratches. I didn’t use the protective case but it’d probably be smarter to do either.
I don't really see the ring advantages, if you have a sports watch that contains all these features and much more. correct me if I'm wrong?
For sleep, I don’t like to sleep with a watch on. Other than that , I agree a watch can do everything and usually better. The fitness aspects of the rings are not super great yet.
100% agree. And I don’t mind sleeping with a watch but some people really have a hard time with it. Although I haven’t seen sleep apnea tracking on any device yet.
@@mlegrandgalaxy watch ultra
I think a smart ring is a good option for those who want to wear a classic watch and not a smartwatch
@@RB-dq1ys or don’t want to wear something bulky on their wrist at all, ring is much smaller and easier for a lot of people
Hey, thanks for the video. Could you try out the ring while swimming? I would love to see what stats you can get out of it, even though it doesn't have a swimming activity tracker
I’ve swum with this ring and couldn’t see anything in particular to distinguish the swim.
Hello, I am new to the Ring product line. Does this particular series of smart rings provide blood pressure information? Additionally, is it possible to make payments using NFC technology with this ring?
Hi Matthew 👋, currently no smart ring products provide blood pressure information. If a watch or ring is saying that they do, I would be high suspicious of the brand. I also have not seen NFC payments on a ring. I have however seen that on a few smart watches. Apple Pay, Garmin Pay, Google Pay, etc.
Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Is this any good as a heart rate monitor for runs and can it be paired with a GPS watch for such?
It’s not as accurate as a chest strap and it’s not exactly designed to sync to activities. I’m also in the middle of reviewing a ring called the Amazfit Helio which does sync to an activity started on your smart phone. 🤷🏻♂️
It uses phone GPS to track during a run.
@@davidsmerda4159 - The Amazfit Helio does use GPS from your smart phone to track runs.
When the site reaches support, it stops on help page
So what?
No sure. I’ve also had good luck reaching out in their social media accounts. 😬
@@mlegrand The app was better thanks 🌹
Does this kickstarter charge me now or when the product ships to me?
That’s a good question for Kickstarter or RingConn. My guess is they’re quick to take your money. 💰
Got my pre order today, e-mail says they don’t charge your card until September 15th.
I have the first GEN just wondering if it’s worth the upgrade
I probably would save my money. The first gen does all of the important stuff. Unless you want the smaller form factor or just want a second ring option. That $209 is pretty remarkable.
@mlegrand I actually want a thicker ring not thinner might as well stay with my first Gen
@@antnyc777 - Put that money towards something else fun. 👌
Do they send a sizing kit?
They have in the past with the Gen 1.
When will the Gen 2s start to ship?
I would have thought it would have already started. Have you reached out to RingConn?
@@mlegrand - I’ll be patient - no worries!
How accurate is the ring out of curiosity?
I've found that marketing departments will claim that it's much more accurate than optical heart rate sensors on watches but in my experiences rings are not as accurate as watches for tracking heart rate in challenging environments. So it kind of depends. When sleeping or at rest, it's good. When playing tennis, for example, it'd be really really bad. But so would every other ring on the market.
I wish the case was smaller. I don't mind even if it just had 50 days worth of battery vs 150 days.
Actually, that's a good suggestion. 150 days is way more than enough. I very rarely travel for more than 2 weeks at a time. Maybe RingConn could offer a second smaller option? A bit more pocket sized?
Is it worth to buy Ringconn 2.0 or still Ultrahuman?
I think it depends. The RingConn is more affordable and has a longer battery life but I do prefer the data and messaging on the UltraHuman Air ring. 🤷🏻♂️
@@mlegrand Version 2.0 promises more accurate data, or what do you mean? Notifications should be part of also.
@@Ciprful - It is really impossible to measure accuracy without being able to export specific heart rate for an activity into a format similar to something like .fit. I don't think I discussed accuracy in this video.
@@mlegrand I do not own any but I am on verge which one I should pick (as a newcomer, I conclude that it is a new hardware and could be more advanced, but if UH still leads in metrics of data and larger "coaching" health, I would rather pay extra for UH
@@Ciprful - this market seems to be changing fast. Maybe Apple will release one in September? For now, I think the UltraHuman is still my favorite
Did you get the same size ring as your 1st generation?
I did. And it seems to fit ok. 👌
Caution as they have a terrible return policy. They will not accept a return for almost any reason other than wrong size (only if you used a sizing kit) and if damaged upon delivery. I tried to return as I need afib detection (which I did not know when I ordered) and they refused to take back. I contacted them the day I received the ring and they still said not a valid reason for return. In addition the return policy is only good for 14 days. Buyer beware.
Good for people to know. 👍
Is there a difference from the old version
Or the same services?
I think the main difference is the size and styles of the new devices. This provides a lot of the same metrics but also provides sleep apnea detection. That being said, I'm wouldn't recommend upgrading unless you're really needing something in here that's new.
@@mlegrand Yes, I care about the number of apnea, as I use a Sepap device for night breathing.
Is there that in the old ring or wait for the new version?
@@royal1- That's a little unclear from RingConn. I'll reach out and ask them for you but I do think the new ring is optimized for the sleep apnea metric. If it were me and this feature was important to me, I think I'd wait for the second generation device.
@@mlegrand 🌹🙏
Thank you for this review. I think I will stick with my watch for now. Almost got sold on the hype. *new subscriber.
Yes, hold off. A lot of watches show similar metrics. Some people struggle to sleep with watches but it doesn’t bug me too much. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Can you do comparison for ultra human air plz
I'm having a hard time finding my UltraHuman Air ring. And it was probably my favorite. 😬
I was planning a longer term review of it so we'll see.
Need your take on the galaxy watch ultra
I don’t have one. 🤷🏻♂️ Seems like it’s been well received by the rest of RUclips.
I just got the Oura ring and I really don’t like the health advice, or changing my activity goals based on my readiness score. I just want a ring that shows me my daily metrics…I do not want a health coach. Sounds like the Ring Conn is the ring to get. Oura should have an option to disable advice and only show stats
Yeah, it’d be nice to see a lot more enable/disable options on all of these watches. People like to customize their experience. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Another great review from Mat The great
Wow, thank you so much for the kind words!!!
They gonna add paywall soon, maybe as ultra human, or different. CEO even mentioned that sleep apnea will be avaiable behind pay wall x). Having no subscription and not doing new accesories like watch, sugar meter etc... the company cannot survive, maybe if they release one ring every year but... We will see, atm am sad that they are not transparent about future pay walls.
I read that also. Not cool. I wish I had mentioned this in the review but I read that news too late. 😬
Thanks for posting this!
@@mlegrand Actually they are not planning to add pay wall to both the gen 1 and gen 2, their advertising made it clear "no subscription fee".
@@MengmengLiu-q8d - Good news! Thanks for the clarification!
@@mlegrandwhere did you read that? Link ?
Amazing review Matt
The b roll is amazing with the smoke shot
I might order one down the road.
I’m not sure you need a smart ring if you’re comfortable with a decent smart watch. I personally feel like the Garmin data is a bit more accurate. Hard to say because I couldn’t export out data from this and compare it to a known good. 👍
@@mlegrand it is all good. Hope your training is going well
Couldn’t care less about this ring, I’m just here for Matt’s cinematography
Ha! Thank you for the kind words!
Does it support NFC paymants?
Not that I know of.