Thank you for the insightful compare-and-contrast format! It allows for the appreciation of the skills and approach of each artist. Clearly, it was a lot of fun!
Very interesting. You do have a lot of talents also, I wish I can do the same!!! Ian Fennely,is a master and a very good teacher he is very generous to share his talent. What you create is very nice 🙏💕
Enjoyed your video because I wanted to be an architect but ended up being a draftsman in the spacerace in the 60s and 70s and finally working on a project where I got my name on Mars. So I too was in the school of everything square and parallel. After watching Ian’s RUclips videos, I am loosening up a bit myself. Thanks
I agree. It is a joy to see how others perceive the same scene. I have the same fascination about architecture. People perceive their environments, whether it be designed or natural, based on their own past experiences. Thank you for your comments.
I like both styles but am drawn more to your architectural approach with maybe a little simplification. The whimsy of all the One Way signs in Ian's is genius! Life feels like that sometimes!
When we were sketching, I overheard Ian commenting about how the One Way signs seem to point in all directions. It was a fun day sketching with him. Thank you for your comments.
You both did a stellar job. Ian's seems more dynamic, popping at you in a 3-dimensional form (and love that bicycle), but your sketch is pleasing to the eye too. I've never done urban sketching, but you certainly have inspired me to grab a lawn chair and do that here in Florida!
Well, they're both interesting in their own right. The architectural one is indeed more precise, the artist's version is using a more dramatical 3point-perspective. Very interesting, thank you for sharing.
The comparison helped me to better sense how Ian's perception of the scene is the same as mine in some ways while different in other ways. Thank you for reaching out with your comments.
Your style is definitely different. I rather like the spidery look of your lines. I like Ian’s tying in from the top left to the bottom right with that blue green wash. It allows the eye to flow. On your piece there’s a lot of detail everywhere. And so the eye sort of bounces from thing to thing. Both are fantastic though.
No Ian's is way better The other is all over the place We both just have different opinions 50 years I'm a Professional Reproduction Artist ,GRAPHIC ARTIST, WATER COLOR ARTIST
Another nice thing about using complementary colors, if you do want to tone the hue down a bit they can be mixed together, maybe for the colors further in the distance. For what it's worth, i preferred how yours turned out 😊 Using the darkest pen and the most detail in the foreground really gives the scene depth of field and added perspective
Very interesting! Yours might have too much detail but I can see and feel the street. I mixture of the two would be nice. He has one focal point you have the same street. It’s interesting that you have such similar colors. Very good lesson be able to look at both styles with the critique.
Like Ian's He has so much more control Hes not all over the place I too am an Artist 50 yrs PROFESSIONAL REPRODUCTION ARTIST... GRAPHIC ARTIST...WATER COLOR ARTIST
As a musician I tried to simplify and not hide the music behind impressive technique. (Just start to paint a bit to as a hobby that’s why I’m here, I guess. But I’m a beginner that can’t draw so nothing like this. Anyway:) It’s not often very technical musicians give credit to those not doing that solution. (I think it’s kind of competitive thing sometimes.) So hats of to Larry for complimenting and recognising Ian’s less detailed and more simplified sketch as, as_good art. Is it better? Idk. I don’t think art necessarily is in that kind of competition. In my view I would probably have chosen Ian’s painting if I had to choose some kind of winner or something. Then again it would be up to the competitions who was closer to the goal. But both I proudly would hang on my wall. Both are very good work. I believe that artist need to be different. Even if I’m curious how Larrys work would look if he did a Ian and visa versa.
I asked Ian during my interview with him if music influences his art. You might be interested in his answer at ruclips.net/video/M5Uk0y_mHPY/видео.html Music is such a wonderful way to portray a mood, emotion, place, activity that the composer and performer decides to interpret threw their own perceptions and personal experiences. You are right, if Ian and I decided to draw like the other, the pieces would still be infused with our own insights. I really like that. Thank you for your comments. I really appreciate them.
@@UrbanSketchPad-cx1ep Yes I actually took a deeper look at this/your account and saw that particular video after I commented. (Subscribed too, hehe. Channel looked quite new.) I noticed I seen Ian on YT before ...and I noticed you even said you like jazz. If that is standardjazz, I did a livestream with that on my channel not too long ago. (Isn't the best quality, using my phone.) Learning skills in one type of artistry, help you to learn, I guess, ...in others too. And I think you get some kind of understanding of balance. I think you definitely get patience. Know the journey you have to do. Painting is something I never been good at ...and probably never will be. It isn't my goal. But I found something in watercolor. Don't think you have to be good at drawing to make colors shine and make some shapes looking like something. What I paint already give me something, even being more like child drawings. It’s just a hobby and will be nothing like all the practicing I did with music, but it’s fun, I like it. And watching you guys being able to draw like that is impressive and inspiring.
Hi.Jim from Madrid, Spain (a fellow artist and a New Yorker expat living abroad). I have started to do Urban Sketching not too long ago to challenge myself into different artwork out of my comfort zone (I'm more if a wildlife artist) trying to always learn and grow in my artistic journey. This was a very interesting video and a great analysis both from an artistic point of view as well as from an architect's point of view. In my opinion, both sketches are great! Really. But... very different at the same time. We all know that it is in the eye of the artist to explain it's own tale to the viewer, showing what the artist wants to be the subject matter of the reality of the artist's view. And that shows very well on this example, which is GREAT BTW. Ian's focus is on one building, the red one, focusing all of his storytelling on that subject matter and accompanying the whole scene to render in his focus. Even the street signs and the bicycle point to the building as his focus. The colouring accentuates the subject matter, using warm reddish colours and light+shadows so the viewer feels the impact of the building itself as a stand alone protagonist in a story full of other characters (the rest of signs, posts, the street itself and the colder colours surrounding the main subject - the corner building). Amazing take of an urban sketch and something very difficult to do (in my opinion). In your take of the same scene (which BTW is a great sketch too) you depict a dual subject matter, focusing on an intersection between streets, flanked by complementary opposite buildings where directionality is logical (for example, the street signs point in the direction of the roads) and you focus the viewers eye into the distant trees, but without a specific subject matter to focus on, since everything is pretty detailed. This is exactly what I find difficult to do and to Ian it seems more of a second nature... the capacity to single point his story on what he wants the viewer to focus on whilst making everything else help the composition to that end, instead of trying to realistically represent a more truthful view of a scene but missing or unfocusing the story I want to tell as an Artist because I end up looking my focus, that is, my story (an Artist is a storyteller, not a photographer). So... Thank You very very much for this video. You have helped me analyze my own way of understanding how to improve my storytelling more artistically, whilst being technically correct but using Art as a way to distort reality and focus on the story I want to express so the viewer can see and feel better what I was trying to tell. I hope my comment makes any sense and I hope I have explained what I've learned. Again... Thank you very much for your content and I just subscribed to your channel to see your approach and artistic voyage. Cheers from Sunny Spain!!! 😁👍😎✌
Jim, I very much enjoyed reading your comments. Your insight of the two styles of sketching brought up points that I overlooked. I am looking forward to hearing from you from time to time. Keep me posted as to how your storytelling journey progresses.
Ian's seems more loose and abstract than Larry's. Larry has a more detailed look. They both are excellent and reflect their styles well. I like both styles. GREAT WORK! SUB/LIKE/SHARE/COMMENT/THX.
Thank you for the insightful compare-and-contrast format! It allows for the appreciation of the skills and approach of each artist. Clearly, it was a lot of fun!
It was a lot of fun! Thank you for your comments.
I’d like to see more videos like this. Great comparative analysis of the two
I learned a lot by slowing down and comparing the two techniques before rushing to another sketch. Glad it was helpful to you too.
Very interesting. You do have a lot of talents also, I wish I can do the same!!! Ian Fennely,is a master and a very good teacher he is very generous to share his talent. What you create is very nice 🙏💕
Enjoyed your video because I wanted to be an architect but ended up being a draftsman in the spacerace in the 60s and 70s and finally working on a project where I got my name on Mars. So I too was in the school of everything square and parallel. After watching Ian’s RUclips videos, I am loosening up a bit myself. Thanks
Glad to hear you share some of the experiences as me. Thank you for your comments.
Fascinating comparison. The joy is that we all see I such different ways: Same scene + same materials = different outcome
I agree. It is a joy to see how others perceive the same scene. I have the same fascination about architecture. People perceive their environments, whether it be designed or natural, based on their own past experiences. Thank you for your comments.
I like both styles but am drawn more to your architectural approach with maybe a little simplification. The whimsy of all the One Way signs in Ian's is genius! Life feels like that sometimes!
When we were sketching, I overheard Ian commenting about how the One Way signs seem to point in all directions. It was a fun day sketching with him. Thank you for your comments.
Lovely to spend time with you Larry! Thank you for sketching along with us :)
It was a great experience. Thank you for your hospitality.
You both did a stellar job. Ian's seems more dynamic, popping at you in a 3-dimensional form (and love that bicycle), but your sketch is pleasing to the eye too. I've never done urban sketching, but you certainly have inspired me to grab a lawn chair and do that here in Florida!
Go for it, Michael! It is a lot of fun. Keep in touch.
Well, they're both interesting in their own right. The architectural one is indeed more precise, the artist's version is using a more dramatical 3point-perspective. Very interesting, thank you for sharing.
Our past experiences really affect the perception we have of a scene. Thank you for your comments. Enjoy the channel.
Thanks Larry. Great to see this comparison :)
The comparison helped me to better sense how Ian's perception of the scene is the same as mine in some ways while different in other ways. Thank you for reaching out with your comments.
I love both styles! So much to learn from each! Thank you Larry 😊
I am so glad you found value in the video. Thank you for your comments.
Thanks for this comparison…very interesting…have Ben on workshops with Ian, but still learned a lot from this video
Thank you for your comments. Yes, sketching with Ian for a full day was a joy and a great learning experience.
Thank you. Packed with helpful information.
Glad it was helpful!
Yours looks great actually. I know Ians is tough to compare to, but your pen and ink looks great.
Thank you for your comments. Hope you enjoy my future videos.
I like both very much.
Thank you. I was such a treat to spend the day sketching with Ian.
Your style is definitely different. I rather like the spidery look of your lines. I like Ian’s tying in from the top left to the bottom right with that blue green wash. It allows the eye to flow. On your piece there’s a lot of detail everywhere. And so the eye sort of bounces from thing to thing. Both are fantastic though.
Thank you for your comments. There is no correct way. But, I get inspired seeing how Ian sees and draws things around him.
Ian’s looks like an exaggerated Disney cartoon, or can you say “Roadrunner”? Yours is a work of art!
Thank you. I appreciate both styles.
No Ian's is way better
The other is all over the place
We both just have different opinions
50 years
I'm a Professional Reproduction Artist ,GRAPHIC ARTIST,
WATER COLOR ARTIST
Very interesting analysis/comparison. Thank you. 🙏🏻
Glad you liked it!
Another nice thing about using complementary colors, if you do want to tone the hue down a bit they can be mixed together, maybe for the colors further in the distance. For what it's worth, i preferred how yours turned out 😊 Using the darkest pen and the most detail in the foreground really gives the scene depth of field and added perspective
Thank you for your comments. It is much appreciated.
I'm a huge Ian Fennelly fan, so this was a fascinating comparison. I like yours just as much as Ian's, but they are certainly different.
I am a fan of Ian's too. He has so much to share. Thank you for your comments.
Very interesting! Yours might have too much detail but I can see and feel the street. I mixture of the two would be nice. He has one focal point you have the same street. It’s interesting that you have such similar colors. Very good lesson be able to look at both styles with the critique.
I agree with your comments, especially a mixture of the two would be nice. Looking forward to sharing more with you in the future videos.
Like Ian's
He has so much more control
Hes not all over the place
I too am an Artist
50 yrs
PROFESSIONAL
REPRODUCTION ARTIST...
GRAPHIC ARTIST...WATER COLOR ARTIST
Ian certainly does a lot a control and order to his compositions. Thank you for your feedback.
@@UrbanSketchPad-cx1ep 🎨🖌your welcome
Beautiful
Thank you
I like both for different reasons! :) You have great talent Sir.! :) Enjoyed your analysis.
Thank you for your compliments. Hope you enjoy my future videos.
Really cool.
Its fun too. Hope you enjoy my future videos. Stay tuned.
Excellent video. Thank you. I also need to loosen up and not be so literal in my attempts at urban sketching.
Yes, once I loosen up, I can be more expressive. Ian is a a good example of being free for being too exact.
One lesson I learned early on is where is my whitest white and my darkest dark? I think that's where Fennely'stands out.
Yes, he has such a great way of using both.
As a musician I tried to simplify and not hide the music behind impressive technique. (Just start to paint a bit to as a hobby that’s why I’m here, I guess. But I’m a beginner that can’t draw so nothing like this. Anyway:)
It’s not often very technical musicians give credit to those not doing that solution. (I think it’s kind of competitive thing sometimes.)
So hats of to Larry for complimenting and recognising Ian’s less detailed and more simplified sketch as, as_good art. Is it better? Idk. I don’t think art necessarily is in that kind of competition.
In my view I would probably have chosen Ian’s painting if I had to choose some kind of winner or something. Then again it would be up to the competitions who was closer to the goal. But both I proudly would hang on my wall. Both are very good work. I believe that artist need to be different. Even if I’m curious how Larrys work would look if he did a Ian and visa versa.
I asked Ian during my interview with him if music influences his art. You might be interested in his answer at ruclips.net/video/M5Uk0y_mHPY/видео.html
Music is such a wonderful way to portray a mood, emotion, place, activity that the composer and performer decides to interpret threw their own perceptions and personal experiences. You are right, if Ian and I decided to draw like the other, the pieces would still be infused with our own insights. I really like that.
Thank you for your comments. I really appreciate them.
@@UrbanSketchPad-cx1ep Yes I actually took a deeper look at this/your account and saw that particular video after I commented. (Subscribed too, hehe. Channel looked quite new.)
I noticed I seen Ian on YT before ...and I noticed you even said you like jazz. If that is standardjazz, I did a livestream with that on my channel not too long ago. (Isn't the best quality, using my phone.)
Learning skills in one type of artistry, help you to learn, I guess, ...in others too. And I think you get some kind of understanding of balance. I think you definitely get patience. Know the journey you have to do. Painting is something I never been good at ...and probably never will be. It isn't my goal. But I found something in watercolor. Don't think you have to be good at drawing to make colors shine and make some shapes looking like something. What I paint already give me something, even being more like child drawings. It’s just a hobby and will be nothing like all the practicing I did with music, but it’s fun, I like it. And watching you guys being able to draw like that is impressive and inspiring.
I love them both
Thank you.
Very interesting, my dream is paint like an architect
You can do it!
You perspective is right on
With urban sketching, it gives us a little more room to play with the perspectives. I really appreciate you commenting. Thank you.
Hi.Jim from Madrid, Spain (a fellow artist and a New Yorker expat living abroad). I have started to do Urban Sketching not too long ago to challenge myself into different artwork out of my comfort zone (I'm more if a wildlife artist) trying to always learn and grow in my artistic journey.
This was a very interesting video and a great analysis both from an artistic point of view as well as from an architect's point of view.
In my opinion, both sketches are great! Really. But... very different at the same time.
We all know that it is in the eye of the artist to explain it's own tale to the viewer, showing what the artist wants to be the subject matter of the reality of the artist's view.
And that shows very well on this example, which is GREAT BTW.
Ian's focus is on one building, the red one, focusing all of his storytelling on that subject matter and accompanying the whole scene to render in his focus. Even the street signs and the bicycle point to the building as his focus. The colouring accentuates the subject matter, using warm reddish colours and light+shadows so the viewer feels the impact of the building itself as a stand alone protagonist in a story full of other characters (the rest of signs, posts, the street itself and the colder colours surrounding the main subject - the corner building). Amazing take of an urban sketch and something very difficult to do (in my opinion).
In your take of the same scene (which BTW is a great sketch too) you depict a dual subject matter, focusing on an intersection between streets, flanked by complementary opposite buildings where directionality is logical (for example, the street signs point in the direction of the roads) and you focus the viewers eye into the distant trees, but without a specific subject matter to focus on, since everything is pretty detailed.
This is exactly what I find difficult to do and to Ian it seems more of a second nature... the capacity to single point his story on what he wants the viewer to focus on whilst making everything else help the composition to that end, instead of trying to realistically represent a more truthful view of a scene but missing or unfocusing the story I want to tell as an Artist because I end up looking my focus, that is, my story (an Artist is a storyteller, not a photographer).
So... Thank You very very much for this video. You have helped me analyze my own way of understanding how to improve my storytelling more artistically, whilst being technically correct but using Art as a way to distort reality and focus on the story I want to express so the viewer can see and feel better what I was trying to tell.
I hope my comment makes any sense and I hope I have explained what I've learned.
Again... Thank you very much for your content and I just subscribed to your channel to see your approach and artistic voyage.
Cheers from Sunny Spain!!!
😁👍😎✌
Jim, I very much enjoyed reading your comments. Your insight of the two styles of sketching brought up points that I overlooked. I am looking forward to hearing from you from time to time. Keep me posted as to how your storytelling journey progresses.
I thought you might have set up perspective lines before you started sketching
I do that in my head. But, it is certainly something to keep in mind.
I'm not an architect, but I liked your sketch better, Larry.
Thank you for the compliment.
Ian's seems more loose and abstract than Larry's. Larry has a more detailed look. They both are excellent and reflect their styles well. I like both styles. GREAT WORK! SUB/LIKE/SHARE/COMMENT/THX.
Thank you for your comments.
awesome :3
Thank you. Hope you enjoy the upcoming videos too.
some people need to learn humility
Thank you for your comment.
Top! yours are better
That's saying a lot. But, I very much like Ian's style. Thank you for the comment.