I saw this movie several years ago. Gary Oldham was absolutely brilliant as Oswald. He had to have watched a hundred times all the videos, photos and interviews of and about Oswald. His mannerisms, expressions, appearance ..... all of it was scary good. He is a SEVERELY underrated actor.
Every doc who examined JFK right after the shooting all say the blow out was to the back of his head. Every doc is pictured putting their hand up to the back of their heads in the same exact spot to indicate where the blow out was. This is further backed up by the autopsy photos of JFK with his brains hanging out the back of his head. The pictures 100% line up with what every single doc who examined him right after the shooting said! There is a 2nd set of autopsy photos that are in complete contrast to what every doc who examined him said. So which set of photos are real? The ones that line up 100% with what every doc who examined JFK right after the shooting said or the pictures that are 100% in contrast to what every doc who examined him said?? It's actually an extremely easy question to answer. Also there's no need for 2sets of different autopsy photos if nothing is corrupt about this case.
What's even more amazing is that he is able to make Oswald such a fully fleshed out character, despite having exactly ZERO traditional scenes of the type we'd normally find in film. Just incredible. And let's not forget the fake Oswald played by Frank Whaley. So good.
FAKE COLD WAR. STALIN COULDN'T EVEN BEAT GERMANY IN WW2 WITHOUT FDRs LEND LEASE ACT SIGNED IN MARCH 1941. GERMANY A SMALLER COUNTRY THAN U.S.S.R WOULD HAVE DESTROYED STALINS RUSSIA WITHOUT AMERICAN SUPPLIES VIA FDRs LEND LEASE ACT
I was trained on a bolt action 30-06, The weapon was a beast. The accurate shots in six seconds with a strong down hill vector on a moving target. Probable kill unlikely. Hell you can hear the shot a mile away. How he walked out of the place speaks of solid Intel training. Oswald was most likely a CIA contractor. framed and eliminated.
John Hearn Where have you been? Abraham Zapruder filmed the assassination of John F. Kennedy in Dallas. And for 44 years, most people have presumed that his home movie captured the assassination in its entirety. This presumption has led to deep misunderstandings, wrong calculations, false conclusions. We now know the Zapruder film was not the time clock on the assassination everyone thought it was. It was incorrectly assumed that one could measure the time it took for the three assassination shots (one missed) to be fired-which the Warren Commission concluded was slightly under six seconds-and then calculate how long a single shooter would take to shoot, reload, resight, shoot again, reload, resight and shoot again. Josiah Thompson concluded that Oswald wouldn’t have had the time to get off all three shots himself and-after working with Life’s copy of the Zapruder film-he published his findings in Six Seconds in Dallas.” But we now know Josiah Thompson’s “Six Seconds in Dallas” is flawed. He based his conclusions on the Zapruder film being a real time account of the assassination. It was not. The majority of witnesses in Dealey Plaza heard three shots fired. Lawmen found three cartridges in Lee Harvey Oswald’s nest on the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository. Yet Zapruder’s film captured only two shots clearly. As a result, the film has been scoured for evidence of another shot, presumably the first one fired at the president. Research has yielded contradictory findings. But what if Zapruder simply hadn’t turned on his camera in time? Zapruder’s 26-second movie has two distinct parts. Approximately seven seconds after he started filming from the north side of Elm Street, Zapruder stopped his Bell & Howell Zoomatic at frame 132 because only Dallas police motorcycles were driving by. He did not restart his camera until the president’s limousine was clearly in view. Consequently, Z 133 is the first frame to actually show the president’s Lincoln - a frame exposed several seconds after the car had made the sharp turn onto Elm Street from Houston Street - and, we believe, after Oswald had squeezed off his first shot. Zapruder missed the first shot. And Oswald missed his first shot too. The first shot glanced off a traffic light pole. The second shot went through President Kennedy and Governor Connelly. The third shot was fatal. This long overdue revelation changes nothing from one perspective - Oswald still did it - but also simultaneously changes everything, if only because it disrupts the state of mind of everyone who has ever been transfixed by the Zapruder film. The film, we realize, does not depict an assassination about to commence. It shows one that had already started.
I forgot how powerful this movie was. The passage of time always erodes away the lies. In tiny increments, seemingly imperceptible, it steadily polishes small nuggets of truth making them more conspicuous with each successive generation. There is nothing carefully concealed that won't eventually see the light. Now it seems the terrible truth is naked and shamefully exposed. Innocence has been hijacked never to return.
This is what happened that morning of November 22, 1963 in Dallas and the Zapruder video speaks very clearly. The presidential limousine turns onto Elm Street and after a few meters the first shot is fired by Nicoletti who, together with Rosselli, was hidden in the Dal Tex Building. The first bullet misses the target and hits the platform of the triple railway crossing at the end of the square and a splinter ends up in the face of James Tague, a passerby who was standing there. The second bullet hits Kennedy in the throat, and as you can see in the footage the president puts his hands to his neck and Governor Connally looks back to see what happened. The third bullet misses and ends up in the lawn where it is later found by an FBI man and deputy sheriff Buddy Walthers. The fourth bullet hits Connally who grimaces in pain as seen in the video and puts his right hand to his stomach because he feels immediate pain and then the bullet passes through his right wrist and lodges in the thigh of his left leg. The fifth bullet hits Kennedy in the back of the head and the sixth bullet, fired by James Files hidden on the grassy knoll half a second after the fifth shot, causes Kennedy's blood and head to splash back, and the brain leaking was due to the pressure of the sixth bullet that had left a hole the size of an apple behind Kennedy's head, as demonstrated by the photos of 14 people who put their hand on the same spot on his head. I say with certainty that there were 6 bullets as it seems that one shot was fired approximately every three seconds, i.e. the time needed to reload the rifle. Returning to Connally, who is the key to clarifying the mystery, there is a lot to say. 1) First of all, from the angle at which Oswald would have been shooting, which was approximately 45 degrees, only Kennedy would have been hit and no one else, the bullet could in no way have made a deviation and then hit the governor. 2) When Kennedy is hit Connally turns back to see what happens and stays like that for about three seconds, the time to reload the shot in the rifle; if the governor had been hit by the magic bullet, at the same time as the president, he would have had the same reaction as Kennedy and would not have had the way or the strength to look back. 3) When Governor Connally is wounded he is still turned away and you can see a grimace of pain as I mentioned before and then he turns forward again and collapses on his wife's legs. So much so that he himself confirms that he was not hit by either the first or third bullet. 4) In the video you can see how Connally hits his head in front of the glass that separates him from the driver's and assistant's seats. 5) Do you know why Connally was hit? Both because Kennedy had thrown himself onto his wife's right shoulder, as by bending he did not hinder the trajectory of the fourth bullet which almost grazed him and hit the governor, and because the shot was fired by Nicoletti from the window of the Dal Tex Building and reached the governor, because Kennedy was leaning towards his wife. Therefore, not only does the first bullet that missed reveal where the shot really came from, but also the one that hit Connally. Indisputable and real evidence, but unfortunately denied by many, including the Warren commission which veiled so much evidence.
Can't stand how people disrespect conspiracy theorists and call them nuts. There are reasons for believing this stuff if people consider the facts and only the facts.
I think it was a conspiracy and there are only two words you need to look at to know that it was a conspiracy. Jack Ruby. Why did he kill Oswald? No valid reasons have ever been given why Jack Ruby would kill Oswald, other than to shut Oswald up. The guy had mob ties and killing Oswald is exactly the type of thing the mafia does when they want to shut someone up. Combine this with the fact that the mafia had a lot of reasons to want JFK dead. They needed Castro out of Cuba because Castro was shutting down all of their lucrative casinos and JFK pulled back in the Bay of Pigs when he had the opportunity to send air fighters to overthrow Castro. This is all you need to know, and you don't even need to debate the number of shots or shot trajectory. You simply need to use common sense.
Conspiracy loons are nuts.. They’re very selective, too.. A prime example the fact Tippit’s killer discarded his jacket, as did Oswald… Yet, none of you ever consider those two could be the same person?.. That’s unfathomable, and makes me laugh..
@@js09js09 I explained this you yesterday.. The evidence is overwhelming Ruby was an opportunity killer, not an assassin.. But, did you learn anything?.. No.. You’re on another thread spewing the same nonsense.. Once again, loons aren’t interested in the truth, never have been.. Their only interest in feeling like they’re smart.. That they’re in on some secret nobody else is..
@@jacobjones5269 Oswald was definitely involved. But he wasn't the only one. He was the one who got caught. And he was beginning to crack under the pressure while in policy custody. That is why Ruby shut him up. Ruby had been stalking the police station for the entire 44 hours Oswald was in custody because he was looking for the right opportunity to shut him up. The Mafia, with probable help from the CIA, orchestrated the assassination. Oswald was a part of the conspiracy, and most likely even provided one of the murder weapons (the one found in the book depository; it was registered under his fake name). I don't doubt he supplied that weapon. I am not sure he did the shooting though. Generally in "missions" such as this, each person is given a small role. One provides a weapon. Others do the shooting. Others perform as lookouts. Etc. It becomes compartmentalized.
A few years later a latent print was found at the snipers nest that belonged to no one associated with the crime scene. On of the very best fingerprint men in the country studied it and concluded that it belonged to a man who did tricks for Lynden Johnson. It was sent to the FBI who said there was no connection. It's bigger then what Mr. Garrison could imagine.
@@rhondathompson6942 Sure they did.. The route was published in written form in one Dallas paper, on the the Tuesday before the assassination.. And the other Dallas paper showed it in map form on Wednesday..
If you believe Oswald was a lone nut looking for importance and a place in history, then this is all pretty ironic. Guy who was looking to be important now has people over the world, a whole conspiracy theory industry, believing he was.
Me neither. I have yet to see it in it's entirety but, looking at these clips, it's beautifully shot and edited. I really want to see it even though I don't agree with the theory.
The Doctor Yea except the fact that Oswalt blew Kennedys brains out then Rudy smoked em. Look here back then you could bring a gun on an airplane while puffing a cigar. It was different times, and yea if the President was genna be in town you could easily just get a gun and shoot him. I mean if the government planned it why couldn't they cover up Watergate?
John B. Not true, security was abnormally low on this day, it was still protocol back then to clear and check all buildings and monitor windows. This is a very clear conspiracy. The facts are not facts, they don't add up. It proves that things this large can't be kept under wraps especially in the technology age. But unfortunately many people still believe the nonsensical offical story. Ask yourself who would gain from JFKs death? It's too large for civilians to understand.
He was shot from the right (if we assume this was Oswald), and that shot did not sever his brain stem or any other part likely, which means his brain had time to violently react to him being shot, making his entire body lurch backwards and towards the trajectory of the shot fired. If you look up where the fence was at the grassy knoll, it’s impossible for a shooter to have shot him from there at the angle, he practically would’ve had to have shot him to the right, not the front. And this could’ve killed Jackie. Also, if he was shot from the grassy knoll; why didn’t anyone see it? The entire crowd was watching him for gods sake.
Was he wearing some sort of brace or harness? If the last shot was a misfire from the old cadillac behind the Lincoln, could it have made him to appear rock back and forth?
Frames 1:22 -1:29; very factually accurate: in the 1988 documentary series "The Men Who Killed Kennedy" (part #4, entitled "the Patsy"), the mortician, fka an "undertaker", who prepared Oswald's body stated that during that procedure, "agents" with fingerprinting equipment arrived and requested "privacy" with the body of Oswald. Afterward, the mortician said that fingerprinting ink had to be removed from Oswald's hands and fingers.
This IS ONE (NOTICE I SAY 1 of the BEST SCENES in the movie BECAUSE to me the ENTIRE movie was MASTERFULLY DONE by OLIVER STONE). "Ya'll GOT TO START THINKING ON A DIFFERENT LEVEL, LIKE THE CIA". Newman, from Seinfeld, says, "There's alot of SMOKE there but there's some FIRE" WELL DONE. 😎
NOVA did their own documentary on the JFK assassination “Cold Case” only examining the forensics portion of the shooting and concluding that Lee Harvey Oswald had have done it because in their words “you use science to rule out the impossible, and what you have left no matter how improbable, has to be the truth”. Man you know if police investigations went soely based on Ballistics and 0 examining of witness statements, and very minimal forensics at best just to be passable and studying perpetrators backgrounds in depth, so many more people would be in Prison or killed for crimes which they didn’t commit. Arguing that Lee Harvey Oswald did it from a soely Ballistics point of view is very similar to what the warren commission did, the interviewing of key witnesses was so unimportant to them in their report, just like the NOVA documentary so all you’ve done NOVA is come to the same conclusion that the warren commission did, but with extra steps, good job. This movie on the other hand does a much better job giving you an idea as to why the conspiracy. Does a much more in-depth study of forensics and explains things which the warren commission didn’t , and also why this JFK conspiracy is so widely believed by the American people and why it’s far more probable that Lee Harvey Oswald didn’t do it, and that he really was a patsy
Notice the wide gap between the jacket collar and the shirt of Bill at 1:00 It implies he is falling apart. If it was intentional, then kudos to the director!
I’ve handled rifles and I’m telling you it’s damn near impossible to hit a moving target 3 times while elevated using a bolt action rifle now so I sure as hell don’t believe Oswald did it in 1963
Less than 150 yards, the target was moving away down the street not across his view. Trained marksman. Telescopic sight. It's definitely possible. Not an easy shot but not Olympic gold marksmanship either.
The god dog acting and casting was impeccable. Everyone living in DC during that period knows what happened and also a lot about politics. Politics is power and past is prologue.
Oswald may have been involved in assassination in some form or another but let's be clear on this he wasn't alone. He was made a convenient scapegoat especially in light of his so-called "defection" to Russia in 1959. One question that most people who buy the conventional line that he was the lone assassin avoid asking is what were Oswald's motives? Furthermore, why did Jack Ruby go out of his way to shoot Oswald. That alone ought to raise red flags, but like sheep we buy into whatever narrative the government sells us. Let's not forget no one in our government has been held to account for the debacle in Iraq and Afghanistan because if that were to occur the whole edifice of our governing structure will collapse like a house built on sand.
1:24 Notice that man planting the print is holding a bare rifle barrel; that's because the palm print was found inside the gun after disassembling it. Of course, the film doesn't draw attention to it because the fact the print was inside the gun explains why it took a week to find and kind of undercuts the claim that it was planted.
Unless it’s a weapon for an assassination of a global figure. In which case you would buy a suitable rifle anonymously and shoot your target at a completely different angle. There were 3 shooters. Oswald was a CIA asset who was always intended to be the fall guy.
Or, like the guy said, go in person to one of the million gun stores in Tx with a phony ID and fake name and get a difficult to trace gun and just don’t tell your wife you got it.
@Himanshu Gupta Those two things can be true at the same time. Oswald was fleeing police because they were after him for murdering Tippit. The theater clerk called the police because he ducked in without paying and because he matched the description of the man police were looking for.
@@scottcarroll9201 I suppose Oswald split into two people ans ran different directions when murdering Tippit. Those eye witnesses witnessed a mutation after murder.
Serious food for thought. There were automatic shell casings found where officer Tibbit was killed. Oswald had revolver. And they had to repair Oswalds revolver before they could test fire it. IT WAS INOPERABLE.
There is no mystery as to why he bought the mail order weapon as opposed to walking into "any store in Texas" and buying one: money. Even then you were not going to get a good weapon for $12. He spent a lot of time reading magazines on guns adjacent to where he worked. He obviously spotted something he liked. It's also important to remember LHO didn't have much money.
@@ironcross6719 I have no doubt somewhere you might could have found a good deal on such a rifle.....but that was the exception not the rule. I got into this another time with a CTer and I did my own research (via a newspaper archive) and here is what I found: From: Gatesville Messenger and Star Forum, 4/6/1962, Gatesville Texas, p.12: "Jim Miller Army Store" sale price quotes: --Savage 22 Cal. Bolt Action Rifle: $31.95 (reg. 39.95) --Mossberg 2 Cal. Mag. Rifle: $29.90 (reg. 39.98) From: Waco News Tribune, 10/7/1962, p.11-B "Cogdell's" Used Rifle sale prices: --Remington Bolt Action 30-06: $99.00 --Remington Bolt Action .222 6x scope: $89.00 --Savage Bolt Action .22 Hornet: $29.00 From: The Anniston Star, (in Alabama), 10/17/1963, p. 9-B Sear & Roebuck ad: --12 ga. Shotgun: $58 From: Rocky Mount Evening Telegram (North Carolina), 11/8/1962, p. 9-A --12 ga. Shotgun: $48.88 From: San Antonio Express and News, 1/26/1964, 20-C --12 ga. Shotgun: $59.99 So yeah, you were not going to find too many rifles for that price. And it's not like Oswald did a lot of browsing outside of the magazines he read and so forth.
All they had to prove was that there was a 4th shot. If so, then there was a conspiracy. I don't think anyone even argues that there were only 3 shots anymore.
I object to this movie! It should be banished before it poisons American soul. It shows people smoking indoors, and inhaling 2nd hand smoke. Smoking is BAD for you. THere fore JFK should be banned.
My dad never liked this movie but I understand why the way that they think about how the assassination happen is kind of ridiculous but we don't know what fully happen
1. Focus on a crime. Forget about theories. 2. Jackie Kennedy goes onto the trunk of the limo and retrieves the presidents brain... Therefore, atleast one bullet came from infront of her... No "lone" gunman. Theory inadmissible. ❤
This scene is ignorant and arrogant. Why does any one buy anything through the mail? People used to do it all the time at Sears. My momma, a divorcee working two jobs, did it in the '60s buying Christmas presents.It's cheaper and you can buy something that is not available locally. Why that rifle? Wayne Fairchild stated the CIA bought a million rounds for that rifle for the Marine Corps. The Marines don't use that rifle. Who does? The rifle is made in Turin. The rifle was obtained by the CIA to supply insurgents, not so blatant as providing them with US arms and the Mafia gets a kickback. Oswald bought the rifle when he could have used the money for groceries. But was there an actual need with his hidden salary? He bought the rifle for practice. He's a Marine, a rifleman and can get the ammo for free. Too blatant if he obtained the rifle through his contacts. How many frangible rounds were found in Oswald's ammo?
@marc belo.....Absolute nonsense!! There were numerous excellent documentaries and films made very soon after JFK's assassination claiming his killing was a conspiracy. Including: - '4 Days in November' [Directed by Mel Stuart in 1964 and nominated for an Academy Award] - 'The Trial of Lee Harvey Oswald' [Directed by Larry Buchanan 1964] - 'Rush to Judgment' [Emile de Antonio & Mark Lane 1966] - 'Executive Action' [Directed by David Miller and starring Burt Lancaster & Robert Ryan 1973] In addition, there was the superb 'The Day the Dream Died' [Directed by Chris Plumley in 1988 - this film is arguably the finest on the topic and was actually the inspiration for Oliver Stone's 'JFK].
@marc belo.....Absolute nonsense!! There were numerous excellent documentaries and films made very soon after JFK's assassination claiming his killing was a conspiracy: - '4 Days in November' [Directed by Mel Stuart in 1964 and nominated for an Academy Award] - 'The Trial of Lee Harvey Oswald' [Directed by Larry Buchanan 1964] - 'Rush to Judgment' [Emile de Antonio & Mark Lane 1966 - an utterly brilliant and extremely detailed account of events]. - 'Executive Action' [Directed by David Miller and starring Burt Lancaster & Robert Ryan 1973] In addition, there was the superb 'The Day the Dream Died' [Directed by Chris Plumley in 1988 - this film is one of the finest on the topic and was actually the inspiration for Oliver Stone's 'JFK]. And in 2013 - Dean Mason's truly exceptional documentary 'JFK: A Legacy In Blood' was released. Again, an incredibly detailed and thoroughly absorbing history of the background, key 'characters' and the impacts the assassination.
It wasn’t This movie. Besides there was ample evidence around already before this movie was made. And Jim Garrison was the only one who came very close to telling the truth by bringing the case forward against Clay Shaw.
I saw this movie several years ago. Gary Oldham was absolutely brilliant as Oswald. He had to have watched a hundred times all the videos, photos and interviews of and about Oswald. His mannerisms, expressions, appearance ..... all of it was scary good. He is a SEVERELY underrated actor.
C F yes!
Oldham? 🤣
Every doc who examined JFK right after the shooting all say the blow out was to the back of his head. Every doc is pictured putting their hand up to the back of their heads in the same exact spot to indicate where the blow out was. This is further backed up by the autopsy photos of JFK with his brains hanging out the back of his head. The pictures 100% line up with what every single doc who examined him right after the shooting said!
There is a 2nd set of autopsy photos that are in complete contrast to what every doc who examined him said. So which set of photos are real? The ones that line up 100% with what every doc who examined JFK right after the shooting said or the pictures that are 100% in contrast to what every doc who examined him said?? It's actually an extremely easy question to answer. Also there's no need for 2sets of different autopsy photos if nothing is corrupt about this case.
Gary Oldman in "The Professional "...psychotic DEA Chief. ..
What's even more amazing is that he is able to make Oswald such a fully fleshed out character, despite having exactly ZERO traditional scenes of the type we'd normally find in film. Just incredible. And let's not forget the fake Oswald played by Frank Whaley. So good.
This movie was ahead of its time.
TRUE
30 years after the fact? Try Executive Action, made only 10 years after and blackballed by most US cinemas, supposedly..
It's a post truth movie
Was right on time
I don't care what you think about the Kennedy assassination, this was great filmmaking.
True! This movie is a masterpiece!
Well, this movie spawned a new Congressional investigation into the Kennedy assassination, so…
U just feel sorry for the people who don’t know
Definitely. It’ll put you on the edge of your seat, even if you think it’s all nonsense (which I did at one time).
so you dont care that cia kills kennedy?
Incredible film. Disturbed me at 11, but created an interest that still exists in me today.
GOD BLESS YOU!!!!!!
Good, it should. Always seek the truth.
Which still begs the question. Why to this day if the gov’t has nothing to hide and wants our full trust will they not release the JFK files?
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Calm down altar boy.
@@e28forever30 I'll go to heaven, you go to hell.
We are talking about our government here, No we're talking about a crime
Military industrial complex and intelligence community killed jfk. Please wake up and see this
Frank playlist Didn’t Eisenhower warn the people about that in his closing speech.
Plain and simple
@@thoroughbred-hp4ms and committed 9/11
FAKE COLD WAR. STALIN COULDN'T EVEN BEAT GERMANY IN WW2 WITHOUT FDRs LEND LEASE ACT SIGNED IN MARCH 1941. GERMANY A SMALLER COUNTRY THAN U.S.S.R WOULD HAVE DESTROYED STALINS RUSSIA WITHOUT AMERICAN SUPPLIES VIA FDRs LEND LEASE ACT
I watched this movie with my son when he was 10 , and that's common sense..not just one shooter
I was trained on a bolt action
30-06, The weapon was a
beast. The accurate shots in
six seconds with a strong
down hill vector on a moving
target. Probable kill unlikely.
Hell you can hear the shot a
mile away. How he walked out
of the place speaks of solid
Intel training. Oswald was most likely a CIA contractor.
framed and eliminated.
John Hearn For sure.
John Hearn He didn't use an M1 which is a 30-06 he used some Italian carcano piece of shit. That alone proved he didn't do it.?
@@ronniebishop2496 Carcano Mod.91/38 is a good weapon
@@gabrielecard668 -Yeah,but it doesn't fire magic Bullets,neurospasms etc.
John Hearn Where have you been?
Abraham Zapruder filmed the assassination of John F. Kennedy in Dallas. And for 44 years, most people have presumed that his home movie captured the assassination in its entirety. This presumption has led to deep misunderstandings, wrong calculations, false conclusions.
We now know the Zapruder film was not the time clock on the assassination everyone thought it was. It was incorrectly assumed that one could measure the time it took for the three assassination shots (one missed) to be fired-which the Warren Commission concluded was slightly under six seconds-and then calculate how long a single shooter would take to shoot, reload, resight, shoot again, reload, resight and shoot again. Josiah Thompson concluded that Oswald wouldn’t have had the time to get off all three shots himself and-after working with Life’s copy of the Zapruder film-he published his findings in Six Seconds in Dallas.”
But we now know Josiah Thompson’s “Six Seconds in Dallas” is flawed. He based his conclusions on the Zapruder film being a real time account of the assassination. It was not.
The majority of witnesses in Dealey Plaza heard three shots fired. Lawmen found three cartridges in Lee Harvey Oswald’s nest on the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository. Yet Zapruder’s film captured only two shots clearly. As a result, the film has been scoured for evidence of another shot, presumably the first one fired at the president. Research has yielded contradictory findings.
But what if Zapruder simply hadn’t turned on his camera in time?
Zapruder’s 26-second movie has two distinct parts. Approximately seven seconds after he started filming from the north side of Elm Street, Zapruder stopped his Bell & Howell Zoomatic at frame 132 because only Dallas police motorcycles were driving by. He did not restart his camera until the president’s limousine was clearly in view. Consequently, Z 133 is the first frame to actually show the president’s Lincoln - a frame exposed several seconds after the car had made the sharp turn onto Elm Street from Houston Street - and, we believe, after Oswald had squeezed off his first shot.
Zapruder missed the first shot. And Oswald missed his first shot too.
The first shot glanced off a traffic light pole.
The second shot went through President Kennedy and Governor Connelly.
The third shot was fatal.
This long overdue revelation changes nothing from one perspective - Oswald still did it - but also simultaneously changes everything, if only because it disrupts the state of mind of everyone who has ever been transfixed by the Zapruder film.
The film, we realize, does not depict an assassination about to commence. It shows one that had already started.
I forgot how powerful this movie was. The passage of time always erodes away the lies. In tiny increments, seemingly imperceptible, it steadily polishes small nuggets of truth making them more conspicuous with each successive generation. There is nothing carefully concealed that won't eventually see the light. Now it seems the terrible truth is naked and shamefully exposed. Innocence has been hijacked never to return.
Hello Newman. Hello Jerry.
Jerry is a nut!
Dude. His name was Newman in this movie too
I’ll always find it funny when they have him in the front seat when they explain the magic bullet theory.
There must have been a second spitter!
"I've seen more souls lost down a bottle than any pit. At the same time, it's hard to trust a man who can't trust himself with a beer."
This movie is a masterpiece. Regardless of the dubious historical claims, the craftsmanship is of the highest order
Milhouse : We're through the looking glass here people.
He knew it was the saucer people.
The Rand Corporation
CELEBRATE GOOD TIMES, COME ON
Vietnam = Ukraine
This is what happened that morning of November 22, 1963 in Dallas and the Zapruder video speaks very clearly. The presidential limousine turns onto Elm Street and after a few meters the first shot is fired by Nicoletti who, together with Rosselli, was hidden in the Dal Tex Building. The first bullet misses the target and hits the platform of the triple railway crossing at the end of the square and a splinter ends up in the face of James Tague, a passerby who was standing there. The second bullet hits Kennedy in the throat, and as you can see in the footage the president puts his hands to his neck and Governor Connally looks back to see what happened. The third bullet misses and ends up in the lawn where it is later found by an FBI man and deputy sheriff Buddy Walthers. The fourth bullet hits Connally who grimaces in pain as seen in the video and puts his right hand to his stomach because he feels immediate pain and then the bullet passes through his right wrist and lodges in the thigh of his left leg. The fifth bullet hits Kennedy in the back of the head and the sixth bullet, fired by James Files hidden on the grassy knoll half a second after the fifth shot, causes Kennedy's blood and head to splash back, and the brain leaking was due to the pressure of the sixth bullet that had left a hole the size of an apple behind Kennedy's head, as demonstrated by the photos of 14 people who put their hand on the same spot on his head. I say with certainty that there were 6 bullets as it seems that one shot was fired approximately every three seconds, i.e. the time needed to reload the rifle. Returning to Connally, who is the key to clarifying the mystery, there is a lot to say. 1) First of all, from the angle at which Oswald would have been shooting, which was approximately 45 degrees, only Kennedy would have been hit and no one else, the bullet could in no way have made a deviation and then hit the governor. 2) When Kennedy is hit Connally turns back to see what happens and stays like that for about three seconds, the time to reload the shot in the rifle; if the governor had been hit by the magic bullet, at the same time as the president, he would have had the same reaction as Kennedy and would not have had the way or the strength to look back. 3) When Governor Connally is wounded he is still turned away and you can see a grimace of pain as I mentioned before and then he turns forward again and collapses on his wife's legs. So much so that he himself confirms that he was not hit by either the first or third bullet. 4) In the video you can see how Connally hits his head in front of the glass that separates him from the driver's and assistant's seats. 5) Do you know why Connally was hit? Both because Kennedy had thrown himself onto his wife's right shoulder, as by bending he did not hinder the trajectory of the fourth bullet which almost grazed him and hit the governor, and because the shot was fired by Nicoletti from the window of the Dal Tex Building and reached the governor, because Kennedy was leaning towards his wife. Therefore, not only does the first bullet that missed reveal where the shot really came from, but also the one that hit Connally. Indisputable and real evidence, but unfortunately denied by many, including the Warren commission which veiled so much evidence.
Laurie Metcalf looks MAD good the few times you see her throughout this film.
She is a pretty woman.
Sure did! Nice set of gams too!
She really does I had no idea it was her
Can't stand how people disrespect conspiracy theorists and call them nuts. There are reasons for believing this stuff if people consider the facts and only the facts.
It’s only a conspiracy when they get caught: Lincoln, business plot, iran contra etc.
I think it was a conspiracy and there are only two words you need to look at to know that it was a conspiracy. Jack Ruby. Why did he kill Oswald? No valid reasons have ever been given why Jack Ruby would kill Oswald, other than to shut Oswald up. The guy had mob ties and killing Oswald is exactly the type of thing the mafia does when they want to shut someone up. Combine this with the fact that the mafia had a lot of reasons to want JFK dead. They needed Castro out of Cuba because Castro was shutting down all of their lucrative casinos and JFK pulled back in the Bay of Pigs when he had the opportunity to send air fighters to overthrow Castro. This is all you need to know, and you don't even need to debate the number of shots or shot trajectory. You simply need to use common sense.
Conspiracy loons are nuts.. They’re very selective, too..
A prime example the fact Tippit’s killer discarded his jacket, as did Oswald… Yet, none of you ever consider those two could be the same person?.. That’s unfathomable, and makes me laugh..
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I explained this you yesterday.. The evidence is overwhelming Ruby was an opportunity killer, not an assassin.. But, did you learn anything?.. No.. You’re on another thread spewing the same nonsense..
Once again, loons aren’t interested in the truth, never have been.. Their only interest in feeling like they’re smart.. That they’re in on some secret nobody else is..
@@jacobjones5269 Oswald was definitely involved. But he wasn't the only one. He was the one who got caught. And he was beginning to crack under the pressure while in policy custody. That is why Ruby shut him up. Ruby had been stalking the police station for the entire 44 hours Oswald was in custody because he was looking for the right opportunity to shut him up. The Mafia, with probable help from the CIA, orchestrated the assassination. Oswald was a part of the conspiracy, and most likely even provided one of the murder weapons (the one found in the book depository; it was registered under his fake name). I don't doubt he supplied that weapon. I am not sure he did the shooting though. Generally in "missions" such as this, each person is given a small role. One provides a weapon. Others do the shooting. Others perform as lookouts. Etc. It becomes compartmentalized.
This is one of the most important movies of the 20th century. I did a report on the asasination in College. I have the DVD. Thanks.
I wouldn’t take everything this movie says as gospel. Stone basically threw a dozen eggs against the wall to see what would stick.
Holy Hell, look how young Michael Rooker looks!!
A few years later a latent print was found at the snipers nest that belonged to no one associated with the crime scene. On of the very best fingerprint men in the country studied it and concluded that it belonged to a man who did tricks for Lynden Johnson. It was sent to the FBI who said there was no connection. It's bigger then what Mr. Garrison could imagine.
Yeah, that’s been debunked, too.. lol.. Just like every other conspiracy claim..
He did it, alone.. The evidence proves it..
@@jacobjones5269 HEY SMART GUY HOW DID OWALD KNOW THAT THEY CHANGE THE ROUT WHERE JFK GOING IN THAT MOTOR CADE NO ONE FROM THE PRESS KNEW BEFORE HAND
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Sure they did.. The route was published in written form in one Dallas paper, on the the Tuesday before the assassination.. And the other Dallas paper showed it in map form on Wednesday..
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Anything else?..
@@jacobjones5269 IT was change very fast
Now this is a scary movie.
Laurie Metcalf is underrated in this classic film.
If you believe Oswald was a lone nut looking for importance and a place in history, then this is all pretty ironic. Guy who was looking to be important now has people over the world, a whole conspiracy theory industry, believing he was.
I don't go along with the film's premise... but damn, what a well-made movie it is.
Me neither. I have yet to see it in it's entirety but, looking at these clips, it's beautifully shot and edited. I really want to see it even though I don't agree with the theory.
Agreed it feels like I'm their. But obviously you have to be aware its an oliver stone film and he always adds his own view on history.
The Doctor Yea except the fact that Oswalt blew Kennedys brains out then Rudy smoked em. Look here back then you could bring a gun on an airplane while puffing a cigar. It was different times, and yea if the President was genna be in town you could easily just get a gun and shoot him. I mean if the government planned it why couldn't they cover up Watergate?
John B. Not true, security was abnormally low on this day, it was still protocol back then to clear and check all buildings and monitor windows. This is a very clear conspiracy. The facts are not facts, they don't add up. It proves that things this large can't be kept under wraps especially in the technology age. But unfortunately many people still believe the nonsensical offical story. Ask yourself who would gain from JFKs death? It's too large for civilians to understand.
The Doctor Dude...you are a loser. I tried to explain it to you cool but you had to be a complete conspiracy generic talking loser.
It does make you stop and think when JFK's head goes back and to the left as if he was shot from the front.
Not to mention the brain parts Jackie retrieved from the rear of the car.
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He was shot from the right (if we assume this was Oswald), and that shot did not sever his brain stem or any other part likely, which means his brain had time to violently react to him being shot, making his entire body lurch backwards and towards the trajectory of the shot fired. If you look up where the fence was at the grassy knoll, it’s impossible for a shooter to have shot him from there at the angle, he practically would’ve had to have shot him to the right, not the front. And this could’ve killed Jackie. Also, if he was shot from the grassy knoll; why didn’t anyone see it? The entire crowd was watching him for gods sake.
Was he wearing some sort of brace or harness? If the last shot was a misfire from the old cadillac behind the Lincoln, could it have made him to appear rock back and forth?
He was shot in front.
Frames 1:22 -1:29; very factually accurate: in the 1988 documentary series "The Men Who Killed Kennedy" (part #4, entitled "the Patsy"), the mortician, fka an "undertaker", who prepared Oswald's body stated that during that procedure, "agents" with fingerprinting equipment arrived and requested "privacy" with the body of Oswald. Afterward, the mortician said that fingerprinting ink had to be removed from Oswald's hands and fingers.
This IS ONE (NOTICE I SAY 1 of the BEST SCENES in the movie
BECAUSE to me the ENTIRE movie was MASTERFULLY DONE by OLIVER STONE). "Ya'll GOT TO START THINKING ON A DIFFERENT LEVEL, LIKE THE CIA". Newman, from Seinfeld, says, "There's alot of SMOKE there but there's some FIRE"
WELL DONE. 😎
"That's a lotta smoke there. But there's some fire."
NOVA did their own documentary on the JFK assassination “Cold Case” only examining the forensics portion of the shooting and concluding that Lee Harvey Oswald had have done it because in their words “you use science to rule out the impossible, and what you have left no matter how improbable, has to be the truth”. Man you know if police investigations went soely based on Ballistics and 0 examining of witness statements, and very minimal forensics at best just to be passable and studying perpetrators backgrounds in depth, so many more people would be in Prison or killed for crimes which they didn’t commit. Arguing that Lee Harvey Oswald did it from a soely Ballistics point of view is very similar to what the warren commission did, the interviewing of key witnesses was so unimportant to them in their report, just like the NOVA documentary so all you’ve done NOVA is come to the same conclusion that the warren commission did, but with extra steps, good job. This movie on the other hand does a much better job giving you an idea as to why the conspiracy. Does a much more in-depth study of forensics and explains things which the warren commission didn’t , and also why this JFK conspiracy is so widely believed by the American people and why it’s far more probable that Lee Harvey Oswald didn’t do it, and that he really was a patsy
This movie is complete fiction.
@@tpryce1525 You probably don't know what 'complete' means.
@@MadHatter1984 How do you figure?
0:51 that is one handsome looking Yondu for a Mary Poppins for ya'll... 🤣🤣🤣
Ha ha
Masterpiece.
Why did motorcade take a right pass book depository instead of going straight 1:56
Wonderful cast great movie
Notice the wide gap between the jacket collar and the shirt of Bill at 1:00 It implies he is falling apart. If it was intentional, then kudos to the director!
lol
We're through the looking glass here people
I’ve handled rifles and I’m telling you it’s damn near impossible to hit a moving target 3 times while elevated using a bolt action rifle now so I sure as hell don’t believe Oswald did it in 1963
Maybe thats why he _only_ hit the target *twice*
no288 nope he didn’t even shoot he was a patsy apparently just like you
Less than 150 yards, the target was moving away down the street not across his view. Trained marksman. Telescopic sight. It's definitely possible. Not an easy shot but not Olympic gold marksmanship either.
A semiautomatic only, maybe one shot off too.
NO WAY.
Holy hell, everyone was in this movie. Gary oldman Tommy Lee jones, the neighbor from roseanne, one of the best all-star cast movies
Scary scene. Great score!
Atmospheric thriller on a Lovecraftian scale. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
I’m so confused now, I’m not even sure JFK was shot at all! 😖
He was shot by Oswald. So obvious with the help of Shaw
They didn't do too bad with the accents.
The god dog acting and casting was impeccable. Everyone living in DC during that period knows what happened and also a lot about politics. Politics is power and past is prologue.
“But I’m just a patsy, Judge Stone!”
“oh ok you’re free to go”
1:41 did Newman quit the post office
So now that lonedumass is done. Garrison did a great job. But the powers that be had more influence to change the out come of the case.
Oswald may have been involved in assassination in some form or another but let's be clear on this he wasn't alone. He was made a convenient scapegoat especially in light of his so-called "defection" to Russia in 1959. One question that most people who buy the conventional line that he was the lone assassin avoid asking is what were Oswald's motives? Furthermore, why did Jack Ruby go out of his way to shoot Oswald. That alone ought to raise red flags, but like sheep we buy into whatever narrative the government sells us. Let's not forget no one in our government has been held to account for the debacle in Iraq and Afghanistan because if that were to occur the whole edifice of our governing structure will collapse like a house built on sand.
Roscoe White was the man in the photo, not Oswald.
1:24 Notice that man planting the print is holding a bare rifle barrel; that's because the palm print was found inside the gun after disassembling it.
Of course, the film doesn't draw attention to it because the fact the print was inside the gun explains why it took a week to find and kind of undercuts the claim that it was planted.
How come they never find bullet shells around the areas especially in the building
The movie omits that Oswald's wife was the daughter of a KGB Colonel, Just "food 4 thought" :)
Funny, im pretty sure Susie mentions that fact as she tells of Oswalds escapades in Russia.
Marina Oswald is still alive to this day. No one has seen her or has she spoke
And she says Oswald didn’t do it
He was just a patsy...
Hello, Newman!
Laurie metcalf is so pretty
Jen s Yeah maybe in 1991 lol
Jen s Andy’s Mam in Toy Story
read your Shakespeare......Julius Caesar
Nice all star cast (some of them work before in another movie.)
If you don’t want your spouse to know you’ve bought something new, and the spouse doesn’t drive, have it sent to the post office.
Unless it’s a weapon for an assassination of a global figure. In which case you would buy a suitable rifle anonymously and shoot your target at a completely different angle. There were 3 shooters. Oswald was a CIA asset who was always intended to be the fall guy.
Or, like the guy said, go in person to one of the million gun stores in Tx with a phony ID and fake name and get a difficult to trace gun and just don’t tell your wife you got it.
This seems to ring true with how things are done today in Govt. . No so far fetched of a theory now .
that`s Merle from the walking dead???
+TheHanchito Yep, he's also a kkk Guy in Mississippi Burning.
Exactly... that's where I knew him from.
"I'm Mary Poppins y'all!"
Pause at 2:07, someone tell me whose face that is, because it isn't LHO or Gary Oldman.
Can’t believe that’s Lady Bird’s mom
NEWMAN
Newman!
Like Rob Skiba said before he died, "We are swimming in a sea of lies".
Newman did it!
I second that ; )
Nice game, pretty boy.
Wanted JFK’s golf clubs…
So Gary went from Sid vicious Lee Harvey Oswald to Sirius black
*HOLY CRAP IT'S YONDU ODANTA!!!!*
1:31 Reverend Tuttle from True Detective.
" Quand les corbeaux voleront blancs, et les pigeons voleront noirs, je sortirai de ma mémoire le souvenir de ma prison ." ( Marcel Dallenne )
Isn't it ironic that JFK got killed by Reznov instead of Mason?
Don't you mean Sirius Black
I like the throwaway detail of you could give a phony name and walk out of a gun store with a rifle.
Is that a fact?
Oswald was no angel classic
He was already being chased by cops when he ran into the movie theatre...
@Himanshu Gupta Those two things can be true at the same time. Oswald was fleeing police because they were after him for murdering Tippit. The theater clerk called the police because he ducked in without paying and because he matched the description of the man police were looking for.
@@scottcarroll9201 I suppose Oswald split into two people ans ran different directions when murdering Tippit. Those eye witnesses witnessed a mutation after murder.
@@xMorbidArtx I'm sure there's a point somewhere in your comment, but I don't have time to find it right now.
Serious food for thought. There were automatic shell casings found where officer Tibbit was killed. Oswald had revolver. And they had to repair Oswalds revolver before they could test fire it. IT WAS INOPERABLE.
@@ebeegeebeefofeebee3181 Meaning what? Go deeper here please… Oswald didn’t kill Tippits, who did? And why? Connected to the JFK killing?
The book is better than the movie
The movie is based on a book by Jim Marrs.
There is no mystery as to why he bought the mail order weapon as opposed to walking into "any store in Texas" and buying one: money. Even then you were not going to get a good weapon for $12. He spent a lot of time reading magazines on guns adjacent to where he worked. He obviously spotted something he liked. It's also important to remember LHO didn't have much money.
In 1963 you could certainly find used rifles for around that price that were at least as good as a pos Carcano.
@@ironcross6719 I have no doubt somewhere you might could have found a good deal on such a rifle.....but that was the exception not the rule. I got into this another time with a CTer and I did my own research (via a newspaper archive) and here is what I found:
From: Gatesville Messenger and Star Forum, 4/6/1962, Gatesville Texas, p.12:
"Jim Miller Army Store" sale price quotes:
--Savage 22 Cal. Bolt Action Rifle: $31.95 (reg. 39.95)
--Mossberg 2 Cal. Mag. Rifle: $29.90 (reg. 39.98)
From: Waco News Tribune, 10/7/1962, p.11-B
"Cogdell's" Used Rifle sale prices:
--Remington Bolt Action 30-06: $99.00
--Remington Bolt Action .222 6x scope: $89.00
--Savage Bolt Action .22 Hornet: $29.00
From: The Anniston Star, (in Alabama), 10/17/1963, p. 9-B
Sear & Roebuck ad:
--12 ga. Shotgun: $58
From: Rocky Mount Evening Telegram (North Carolina), 11/8/1962, p. 9-A
--12 ga. Shotgun: $48.88
From: San Antonio Express and News, 1/26/1964, 20-C
--12 ga. Shotgun: $59.99
So yeah, you were not going to find too many rifles for that price. And it's not like Oswald did a lot of browsing outside of the magazines he read and so forth.
Not much sense either
hey its merry poppins yall!
Adam carolla at 1:40
light to dark... dark... to light
anybody notice merle?
All they had to prove was that there was a 4th shot. If so, then there was a conspiracy. I don't think anyone even argues that there were only 3 shots anymore.
Milhouse said it better
AFTER THE FACT
AFTER THE INCIDENT
AFTER THE MURDER
Oswald was always a patsy
It's Robin Hood, It's Merle,......Hello, Newman.
Jerry is a nut!
OSWALD WAS SACRIFICE
Yondu got completely undressed in this scene...
lol were talking about a crime bill, lol the crime bill or 94
Lol
I object to this movie! It should be banished before it poisons American soul. It shows people smoking indoors, and inhaling 2nd hand smoke. Smoking is BAD for you. THere fore JFK should be banned.
Not enough Saucer People or Reverse Vampires... or plans to eliminate dinner.
YOU FORGOT THE RAND CORPORATION.
OR HAVE THEY GOTTEN TO YOU, TOO???
Milhouse
I'm not saying this movie "got it right" but it comes far closer to reality and the truth than the US Government's version.
There's nothing in this movie that gets withing shouting distance of reality.
... Newman!
He Killed A Democrat! Matter of Fact I dont believ he pulled the trigger at all
Meh JFK was more of a left wing libertarian compared to today
My dad never liked this movie but I understand why the way that they think about how the assassination happen is kind of ridiculous but we don't know what fully happen
lmao okay dumdum
@@PersistentPatriot excuse me
newman!
1. Focus on a crime. Forget about theories.
2. Jackie Kennedy goes onto the trunk of the limo and retrieves the presidents brain...
Therefore, atleast one bullet came from infront of her...
No "lone" gunman.
Theory inadmissible. ❤
So many witnesses died mysteriously
It didn't happen this way people.
6
This is NOT a documentary.
This scene is ignorant and arrogant. Why does any one buy anything through the mail? People used to do it all the time at Sears. My momma, a divorcee working two jobs, did it in the '60s buying Christmas presents.It's cheaper and you can buy something that is not available locally. Why that rifle? Wayne Fairchild stated the CIA bought a million rounds for that rifle for the Marine Corps. The Marines don't use that rifle. Who does? The rifle is made in Turin. The rifle was obtained by the CIA to supply insurgents, not so blatant as providing them with US arms and the Mafia gets a kickback. Oswald bought the rifle when he could have used the money for groceries. But was there an actual need with his hidden salary? He bought the rifle for practice. He's a Marine, a rifleman and can get the ammo for free. Too blatant if he obtained the rifle through his contacts. How many frangible rounds were found in Oswald's ammo?
This movie really started the whole conspiracy theory behind the Assassination.
@marc belo.....Absolute nonsense!! There were numerous excellent documentaries and films made very soon after JFK's assassination claiming his killing was a conspiracy. Including:
- '4 Days in November' [Directed by Mel Stuart in 1964 and nominated for an Academy Award]
- 'The Trial of Lee Harvey Oswald' [Directed by Larry Buchanan 1964]
- 'Rush to Judgment' [Emile de Antonio & Mark Lane 1966]
- 'Executive Action' [Directed by David Miller and starring Burt Lancaster & Robert Ryan 1973]
In addition, there was the superb 'The Day the Dream Died' [Directed by Chris Plumley in 1988 - this film is arguably the finest on the topic and was actually the inspiration for Oliver Stone's 'JFK].
@marc belo.....Absolute nonsense!! There were numerous excellent documentaries and films made very soon after JFK's assassination claiming his killing was a conspiracy:
- '4 Days in November' [Directed by Mel Stuart in 1964 and nominated for an Academy Award]
- 'The Trial of Lee Harvey Oswald' [Directed by Larry Buchanan 1964]
- 'Rush to Judgment' [Emile de Antonio & Mark Lane 1966 - an utterly brilliant and extremely
detailed account of events].
- 'Executive Action' [Directed by David Miller and starring Burt Lancaster & Robert Ryan 1973]
In addition, there was the superb 'The Day the Dream Died' [Directed by Chris Plumley in 1988 - this film is one of the finest on the topic and was actually the inspiration for Oliver Stone's 'JFK].
And in 2013 - Dean Mason's truly exceptional documentary 'JFK: A Legacy In Blood' was released. Again, an incredibly detailed and thoroughly absorbing history of the background, key 'characters' and the impacts the assassination.
marc bello never responded... idiots always open their mouth who know NOTHING
It wasn’t This movie. Besides there was ample evidence around already before this movie was made. And Jim Garrison was the only one who came very close to telling the truth by bringing the case forward against Clay Shaw.