I bought the srixon zx7 and also the mizuno, and the callaway apex. The Wilson Cb's blew them away. The tungsten weighting at the bottom of the club made them so much easier to hit. It is also important to note that WIlson has more PGA tour wins than any other brand.
I had a fitting yesterday. Hit several of these. The Ping i230 was best for me, but the Apex Pro was really close. Mizuno felt wonderful, visually I didn’t like how flat it was. Great video, watched it several times before going in. Can’t wait for them to come in.
I've played Mizuno irons for the past 30 years and love the feel of a forged club. For me, feel is the top factor, followed by dispersion, looks, then price. I don't get enough variance in distance when testing different clubs, so I don't consider it much. However, the cost of a set of Takomo forged CB's has my attention.
I'm a new viewer and I feel that your show is right up at the top. I will be watching your vlogs as they show them. Great show and keep up the good work.
I play 2019 apex pro but you are 100% correct they are clicky when you get to the 6 iron that’s where the face cup starts. 7-PW feels a lot better than the 4-6 irons. But they are great irons.
Fellow Calgarian here my man. I went for an iron fitting at the end of the season and was between the Mizuno pro 223 and the srixon Zx7. Ended up with the zx7 just because I felt they were the slightly more forgiving and would be able to hit the 4 iron more consistently. Both were unreal for me. Nothing like Japanese steel imo. Keep it up good sir!
P7MB?! Put them in the bag this year, liked the feel, flight and spin more than the MC and didn't find much of a difference in forgiveness. Great video man!!
There used to be nothing but love for chromed-out shiny blades, which I never understood, because I've always felt the same way about the glare that you do. Most clubmakers have gone to a satin or brushed chrome finish, which I'm very happy about. Even without the glare issue, I just think it looks better! Mizuno kept it shiny with the 221, but all their other models are satin. Titleist has brushed chrome on their blades. I just picked up some used Srixon ZX7/ZX5 irons (combo with ZX5 in 5 and 6 iron) and the back is a mix of satin and chrome, but the face and everything at address is muted/satin. They look sharp and they feel fantastic. I was playing PXG 0211ST blades, but just wanted a tiny bit more help with some perimeter weighting. They're the business. New ones (Mk II) coming out next year, looks like.
Interesting review for sure, I just had a fitting for new irons. I have the same club head speed as you with a 6 iron. Based on feel I ranked them: 1: Taylor Made P7MC 2: Titleist T 100 3: Ping i230 I wasn’t interested in players distance irons, so I didn’t try many of the other clubs as the lofts were strong and I’m not interested in maxing out distance with irons. I tried out Mizuno JPX tours and the Taylor Made P7MCs were still the tightest dispersion and best feeling.
@@NewNineGolf yes for sure! Absolutely loved them. The p770s were also surprisingly good. I would put those above the i230s. Unfortunately the project x shafts I liked were not available until September, so I had to change those out for the Nippon Modus shafts. Hopefully I get them at some point this summer.
It’s interesting that you prefer the feel of hollow body irons. For me the solid milled forged heads feel way better. I’d have put the P7mc #1 just based on feel most likely. Great video!
Love the vid man! Thanks for the information!! You have a good personality, made the video enjoyable to watch. You're not dull, some golf guys are so dry lol
First day watching your channel and love your content. Even though you trashed my Wilson CBs.... I love your honesty. Thats why there are plenty of clubs to choose from. But keep up the great content. 👍
Also seen the video with your buddy Brent were he wanted more spin rate, loft and less rollout and the cobra irons did the best for him but did the exact opposite for you. I wanted to buy mizunos but the Cbs were literally half the price. What works for you might not for me.
Just to give a defense for the wilson distance numbers compared to the callaway irons. A hollow body will flex and spring a bit more compared to a typical forged club. But i wouldn't expect 20 yds of difference between the two TBH. Great video regardless! (As im very late to the party lol)
@@takomogolfcompany The glorious absence of marketing skills in Finland is just simply breathtaking!! 😂 How much effort it would have taken to provide Brandon the shaft that he likes to be higher on the board? 😂 Especially when you rely on influencers to sell your product? Rgds, a fellow Finn Pekkam ;)
I went through and looked at all your data. If you look at carry consistency (the spread of worse to best), Ranked them 1 through 9, then looked at dispersion, ranked them 1-9. Your winner would be PXG. Followed then by Taylormade, then Callaway. Knowing you didn't like the Taylormade's really, I'd say toss up between PXG and Callaway, knowing Callaway might need 1 degree weak or so to get rid of that offset that is pulling it left for you.
you have 1.6% variance in distance in PXG, 2.47% in TM, and 2.66% in Callaway. Mizuno had 2.8%. You had significantly better distance control with the PXG...left and right can be lie adjusted.
I have the Wilson cb staff but keep going back to my Wilson v6 tours....played with titleist ...mizuno and Taylormade but Wilson to me are so soft and can shape shots quite easily....... Good review though 👌
Love your videos! I’d love to see more from Direct to consumer brands like Sub70 and Haywood golf. There’s nothing the average golfer loves more than getting the same performance for half the price. Keep up the great work!
Thanks Justin. Takomo video dropping tomorrow and getting our hands on some Haywoods to test soon. Will try again to get some sub 70s. Appreciate the support. 🍻
So this is twice ive watched this and coming from playing mizuno mp18 split set 3-5 in the sc and 6-pw in the mb( ive been a mizuno iron player most of my golf playing days just cant seem to find anything better) now after hitting the t100, t100 s , mizino pro 223 and 221 and apex pro 19. The titleist great clubs just didnt do anything bettet than my current gamers. The pro 221 where the exact same as my mp18 zero differences. The 223 on off centre hits performing better due to the technology. But the surprise was the apex pro they shocked me on how they felt and flew and everything. Now shock horror i did not buy them. I went to a different fitter then and went with the pro 223. Now they are great clubs but in my in opinion they should of stuck the same technology in the 8,9,pw as they do in the 4 to 7 iron. The gapping is weird compared to other irons ive tested. Long story im sorry i didnt pick up a set of the callaway apex pro. Still might. Mizunos perform well dont get me wrong but the scoring irons on them 8,9,pw need some work the more i play with them they dont sit right in my eye
Justin Rose just Won Pebble with a combination of the Cobra King Tour/CB/MB after leaving Takomo. Kind of funny how different things work for different people. Rose is mostly playing the CB/MB. It’s crazy how many players clubs there actually are now from each brand. No way you could ever cover them all. This is super informative though. As a former Statistics Major THANK YOU for eliminating the outliers this annoys me with literally every other You Tuber. It would be interesting to see what kind of impact hitting 14 shots and eliminating top and bottom two would have for us statistic geeks.
Ya so cool to see Rose win with his new bag. We’re always playing around with different ideas on how to present the data I get. Glad this way worked for a stats guy👊🏻 We’re getting ready to film our 2023 driver bracket. What formula would you use to determine if one driver is better than the other? Taking the opinion of feel, sounds, looks price etc out of the equation?
I’m from Calgary as well and I watched right through to what I wanted to see, the Cobra King Tour irons. I moved into them last season but in the gorgeous (anti-glare) copper finish. Aside from being very striking, I get a lot of looks and questions, these play and feel fantastic. I’m not surprised you enjoyed that session.
@@NewNineGolf there’s more than a fair chance that this could happen, I have 2 buddies who are members at CH, one of them even pointed out your channel a little while ago. It’s gonna be a busy season if/when it finally starts. I’ve been enjoying what I’ve seen from you so far, as a lefty I’m so jealous for plenty of reasons, I kind of have to accept what (little) is out there for equipment but do my best to arm myself with information before making keen purchases. Next on my list is (perhaps) the Mizuno S23 wedges, at least they are offered in a surprising array of lofts and grinds.
That's awesome. Small world. Who are your buddies? Thanks for watching and supporting the channel. Mizuno def makes nice wedges. Have you looked at vokeys? I think they offer all their lofts and grinds for lefty's as well.
@@NewNineGolf ya Vokeys were a consideration but like everything else I don't get to see much LH inventory anywhere. The default/standard finish of the S23s just happens to be (a slightly different) copper. Those other members are J. DePaoli and N. Rawlings.
I enjoyed the video, great content as always. I do have an issue with the expert that came in saying 99% don't care what the iron looks like. If an iron doesn't sit right, has a thick top line and too much offset I won't even hit it. So i would dispute that statement. Otherwise great video.
Maybe 99% is drastic but most people he fits rely on the data choosing the club for them. The majority of clubs all look good these days with the exception of a couple based on personal preference. But I agree, I’m not bagging a club I don’t like looking at.
@@NewNineGolf Dig it.. I wasn't trying to sound like a club snob.. I play the Mizuno Pro 221, so I'm a little biased towards minimal looking clubs versus a shovel look. Keep up the good work, your videos are very well done.
Is there a big difference between the Mizuno Pro 223, JPX Hot Metal Series and Forged? I'm looking at getting irons from them but have no idea which ones are the best
I think theres quite a bit of difference from the Pro 223 to the Hot Metal, with the 223 being smaller, less forgiving but softer feel with more traditional lofts than the Hot metal . The Hot Metal Forged would be in the middle. I dont think you can go wrong with either. Go take a look at the Hot Metal and see if you like the look and feel and go from there. I highly recommend getting fit.
Damn personally I think P7mb are a touch of class. They look great, way better than the ping which looks boring to me. I will say the P7mb werent nearly as soft as I would hope. And as far as Players irons go I look for consistency and feel first then workability and looks
Everyone overlooks Tour Edge Exotics which have won so many Champions Tour events over the last ten years. Probably more comparable to average golfer’s swing speeds rather than trying to copy PGA tour players. Would love to have seen their clubs in this comparison. Otherwise a great review!
The Cobra Forged Tecs are great. I think they would be a little more forgiving than the Tours. I haven't tested them side by side but they are definitely sleeker looking than their game improvement irons. My friend is a 7 cap, he plays them and loves them.
@@NewNineGolf neat. I have the LTDx driver and am already a Cobra fan boy from that alone. From my understanding the Forged Tec wouldn’t be too dissimilar to the Callaway that you trialled in the video. Am floating around 10hcp and want to move on from my Cleveland CG16s and if I’ve learned anything from this video is to go for a fitting and try a lot of clubs. Thanks!
Love the LTDx drivers. Ya I think they would be comparable to the Callaway's. Definitely go hit them and get fitted! Keep me posted on what you decide on.
Feels like you should've went with the TCB's for Callaway to compare it to those other clubs, the Apex Pro would be closer to a p770 Taylormade than a P7MC.
Oh and also, being Canadian, try to put your hands on some Haywood clubs! I think the price point is similar to Takomo and the build quality is likely a notch higher.
I hit mine 180, I lost 10 yards from my old set but the control is better and the feel is amazing 🤷♂️. I considered going 225 instead but chasing distance is silly
@@TheSleepArtist agreed, distance helps but the reason I switched was I wanted something that had better dispersion and control. My Sims were wild sometimes and yeah 90% of it could of been me but face consistency is what I wanted. Players irons aren’t jumpy like game improvements. My buddy was hitting his Ping G400 or whatever in a warm up and he’s like why am I hitting my 9 iron 175 right now when it usually goes 160 max 😂
@@NewNineGolf makes me wanna try those bad boys out. Saw them at the shop and they were clean looking. Last question. Did you see any fliers I guess you would say. Sometimes I wonder if people get flier confused with well struck shot lol
So basically, whenever you dislike the look of a club, we can already stop the video because we already know you’re not gonna like the clubs performance
Feel is so subjective. I've owned the P770, P7MC and T100 within a month, and the T100 doesn't feel anywhere near as good as the P7MC. I think it depends on the shaft, but even a 620MB and a T100 are poles apart in feel with the same shaft. The T100 is too click to be classed as a "great" feeling iron. It sounds awful.
Enjoyed the test but the apex pro had no business in this category being the only hollow body. TCB would have been more appropriate. Also, it seemed with the titleist, it was more fade biased and because you like to see a draw, i think you fought that a bit and thats why you saw a few bad pulls. What even more interesting is almost everything is really good, can “work”, just comes down to looks, feel and of course price. Gotta set of Takomos and they are as good as anything out there at half the price.
Ya I didn't know it was hollow body. I just told Jeremy to give me each brands players iron. He must've not had the TCB. I'll try to do a follow up to this and maybe a hollow body showdown. Ya the Takamos are really good. Enjoy. 🍻
General comment/question - I really like your reviews but when you post long ones like this, which are really great, could you first do a high level summary of your findings and results? I know it spoils things a bit but it's tough when people might want to get the gist quickly of the review with out needing to skip around or invest 56 minutes to watch the entire thing. Keto up the work 👍
I understand the concern. The best we could do in this case is add chapters to the video so if there was one iron you wanted to see you can find it easily. Same with the results. A lot of our subscribers do enjoy the full video so believe it or not, this IS the condensed version. If you couldn’t find the chapters, they are below the description of the video. Thanks for the support 👊🏻
@@NewNineGolf the chapters definitely help, thanks! I have t100s myself and love them but I hit down very aggressively and I take monster divots. Did you feel like any of the other irons had more bounce or would be better in softer conditions?
Great video! Curious why you don’t compare them all at once in the trackman software? Personally I’d like to see all irons on the dispersion map as well as the shot data versus looking at each iron individually.
Unless you’re gaming Miura mb-101, I wouldn’t say these clubs you’re testing are better feels than Miura. I was gaming T100s and been hitting Titleist pretty much since I started golfing and I’ve hit other brands, now I’m gaming Miura cb-301. I gotta say I don’t think I want to hit anything other than Miura. The butter feeling of Miura is unmatched. And Takomo are Scandinavian base and manufacture in China.
Why does he say Takomo and Muira so weird and my dude sounded like a golf snob when talking about the Wilson Staff CBs which I know to be a great players iron
You saying tack-a-mo is killing me.. it's tah- ko-mo.. I getbthey are new but it almost felt like you were getting paid per name drip with the amount if tunes you said it but could have just been me noticing it more bc it was incorrectly said
Man, that would not have been my ranking for you. Apex Pro 21.....do not get great grades for feel in forums. I had a set and they were much worse feeling than the 19 version (which I also owned).
@@NewNineGolf You didn't hit them outdoors and on a course.... Big difference in my experience with them. Note: I wanted to love them, the from 4 iron to 7 iron though....the fee/sound is no bueno.
Ya I'm definitely starting to understand what all the fuzz about with Mizuno irons. Haha. Their new drivers are actually not bad either. Did our driver bracket earlier this year and it kept up.
There are actually tour players that play the i230. And it says player style iron on their website 🤷♂️.... I included the i59 in this year's video. Hopefully I'm qualified to test those .... 😬
I wish you would have included Srixon ZX5/7, they fit right in with the line up you tested.
Ya me too. Adapter broke day of filming. Gonna try to get my hands on the mkiis. Those look sweet.
I bought the TaylorMade P7MC about two weeks ago with KBS Tour stiff. They are great.
I bought the srixon zx7 and also the mizuno, and the callaway apex. The Wilson Cb's blew them away. The tungsten weighting at the bottom of the club made them so much easier to hit. It is also important to note that WIlson has more PGA tour wins than any other brand.
That's great to hear. I just bought them Wilson's CBs today. They were only $550 and hope they play well for me as well.
I had a fitting yesterday. Hit several of these. The Ping i230 was best for me, but the Apex Pro was really close. Mizuno felt wonderful, visually I didn’t like how flat it was. Great video, watched it several times before going in. Can’t wait for them to come in.
This is what I expect a golf club review should be. Rapid fire clips, then, followed by your quick analysis. No fluff, just immediate honest opinions.
Thank you 👊🏻
I bought the Apex pro last year and I’ve been playing the best golf of my life ever since. Amazing clubs 🔥
Thanks for including the takomos!
I scooped the 2022 raw P7MC’s when they were out for that month or two. I think they’re slick, I love those irons.
I've played Mizuno irons for the past 30 years and love the feel of a forged club. For me, feel is the top factor, followed by dispersion, looks, then price. I don't get enough variance in distance when testing different clubs, so I don't consider it much. However, the cost of a set of Takomo forged CB's has my attention.
The Takomo might be the best “Bang For Buck” iron set on the market.
Takomo 201 owner here. They're not Mizuno feel but they're amazing in their own way. If I was paying $1500 ish I'd get Mizuno all day
Snagged the Mizuno Pro 223 this year and haven’t looked back. They are so damn good.
Love my Mizuno 223 and 225
Pretty much how I ended up with the 223's. Very tight clubs.
I'm a new viewer and I feel that your show is right up at the top. I will be watching your vlogs as they show them. Great show and keep up the good work.
Really appreciate the kind words 👊🏻 Welcome aboard!
I play 2019 apex pro but you are 100% correct they are clicky when you get to the 6 iron that’s where the face cup starts. 7-PW feels a lot better than the 4-6 irons. But they are great irons.
Very good review...and I've watched every review with regards to players irons on RUclips. Good work 👍. Subscribed
Appreciate it! Welcome aboard 👊🏻
Fellow Calgarian here my man. I went for an iron fitting at the end of the season and was between the Mizuno pro 223 and the srixon Zx7. Ended up with the zx7 just because I felt they were the slightly more forgiving and would be able to hit the 4 iron more consistently. Both were unreal for me. Nothing like Japanese steel imo. Keep it up good sir!
That’s awesome. Congrats on the new sticks!
No kidding on the Japanese steel.. same with watches, swords/knives, anything with steel. I want to hit these clubs
P7MB?! Put them in the bag this year, liked the feel, flight and spin more than the MC and didn't find much of a difference in forgiveness. Great video man!!
They were really solid clubs! Appreciate the support 👊🏻
There used to be nothing but love for chromed-out shiny blades, which I never understood, because I've always felt the same way about the glare that you do. Most clubmakers have gone to a satin or brushed chrome finish, which I'm very happy about. Even without the glare issue, I just think it looks better! Mizuno kept it shiny with the 221, but all their other models are satin. Titleist has brushed chrome on their blades. I just picked up some used Srixon ZX7/ZX5 irons (combo with ZX5 in 5 and 6 iron) and the back is a mix of satin and chrome, but the face and everything at address is muted/satin. They look sharp and they feel fantastic. I was playing PXG 0211ST blades, but just wanted a tiny bit more help with some perimeter weighting. They're the business. New ones (Mk II) coming out next year, looks like.
No srixonw?
They weren’t out at the time we filmed this. Srixon driver video drops this week.
Interesting review for sure, I just had a fitting for new irons. I have the same club head speed as you with a 6 iron.
Based on feel I ranked them:
1: Taylor Made P7MC
2: Titleist T 100
3: Ping i230
I wasn’t interested in players distance irons, so I didn’t try many of the other clubs as the lofts were strong and I’m not interested in maxing out distance with irons. I tried out Mizuno JPX tours and the Taylor Made P7MCs were still the tightest dispersion and best feeling.
Nice to hear! Did you pull the triggers on the Taylormades?
@@NewNineGolf yes for sure! Absolutely loved them. The p770s were also surprisingly good. I would put those above the i230s. Unfortunately the project x shafts I liked were not available until September, so I had to change those out for the Nippon Modus shafts. Hopefully I get them at some point this summer.
You're the best at this bud. Mizuno A1 all day just got 221's. Anytime you want to play Heritage let me know.
It’s interesting that you prefer the feel of hollow body irons. For me the solid milled forged heads feel way better. I’d have put the P7mc #1 just based on feel most likely. Great video!
just found this channel a week or so ago - great videos dude keep it up
Appreciate it. Welcome to the community 👊🏻
Love the vid man! Thanks for the information!! You have a good personality, made the video enjoyable to watch. You're not dull, some golf guys are so dry lol
Appreciate the love 👊🏻
First day watching your channel and love your content. Even though you trashed my Wilson CBs.... I love your honesty. Thats why there are plenty of clubs to choose from. But keep up the great content. 👍
Thank you. I appreciate it. Exactly, everyone makes good clubs these days. Good to have choices. 🍻
Also seen the video with your buddy Brent were he wanted more spin rate, loft and less rollout and the cobra irons did the best for him but did the exact opposite for you. I wanted to buy mizunos but the Cbs were literally half the price. What works for you might not for me.
Ya totally. Golf is a funny game like that. Glad you found something that works for you.
Nice, second video with Mizuno on top. I'm bias being I play with 225s 👍🏾
Just to give a defense for the wilson distance numbers compared to the callaway irons. A hollow body will flex and spring a bit more compared to a typical forged club. But i wouldn't expect 20 yds of difference between the two TBH.
Great video regardless! (As im very late to the party lol)
“TACK-A-MO” 😂😂
Is my Canadian showing? 🤷♂️😂
A new one for us as well.
@@NewNineGolf opinion on 225 irons
@@goutfromfriedokra3936 haven’t hit em yet
@@takomogolfcompany The glorious absence of marketing skills in Finland is just simply breathtaking!! 😂 How much effort it would have taken to provide Brandon the shaft that he likes to be higher on the board? 😂 Especially when you rely on influencers to sell your product? Rgds, a fellow Finn Pekkam ;)
Love my mizuno 223’s not surprised they were your #1
same I hit like 10 different irons in my fitting and nothing felt even close to the 223s. Wish I was good enough to hit the 221s
Thank you, love the 221 this year
I went through and looked at all your data. If you look at carry consistency (the spread of worse to best), Ranked them 1 through 9, then looked at dispersion, ranked them 1-9. Your winner would be PXG. Followed then by Taylormade, then Callaway. Knowing you didn't like the Taylormade's really, I'd say toss up between PXG and Callaway, knowing Callaway might need 1 degree weak or so to get rid of that offset that is pulling it left for you.
you have 1.6% variance in distance in PXG, 2.47% in TM, and 2.66% in Callaway. Mizuno had 2.8%. You had significantly better distance control with the PXG...left and right can be lie adjusted.
Love my king tour mims, having never played cobra clubs before, they have replaced my old taylormade sims for good 👍🏽
I have the Wilson cb staff but keep going back to my Wilson v6 tours....played with titleist ...mizuno and Taylormade but Wilson to me are so soft and can shape shots quite easily.......
Good review though 👌
i230s are butter! Can’t believe he put them that low 😅
Haha I thought they felt great. I had to move them up.
Love your videos! I’d love to see more from Direct to consumer brands like Sub70 and Haywood golf. There’s nothing the average golfer loves more than getting the same performance for half the price. Keep up the great work!
Thanks Justin. Takomo video dropping tomorrow and getting our hands on some Haywoods to test soon. Will try again to get some sub 70s. Appreciate the support. 🍻
So this is twice ive watched this and coming from playing mizuno mp18 split set 3-5 in the sc and 6-pw in the mb( ive been a mizuno iron player most of my golf playing days just cant seem to find anything better) now after hitting the t100, t100 s , mizino pro 223 and 221 and apex pro 19. The titleist great clubs just didnt do anything bettet than my current gamers. The pro 221 where the exact same as my mp18 zero differences. The 223 on off centre hits performing better due to the technology. But the surprise was the apex pro they shocked me on how they felt and flew and everything. Now shock horror i did not buy them. I went to a different fitter then and went with the pro 223. Now they are great clubs but in my in opinion they should of stuck the same technology in the 8,9,pw as they do in the 4 to 7 iron. The gapping is weird compared to other irons ive tested.
Long story im sorry i didnt pick up a set of the callaway apex pro. Still might. Mizunos perform well dont get me wrong but the scoring irons on them 8,9,pw need some work the more i play with them they dont sit right in my eye
Great work
I agree, to me the Pings were 5th otherwise I think its important to not get caught up with distance with these type of clubs.
I think these tests would make more sense if you hit your current irons first
Excelent video!
Brandon great content as always, I commented before to try or game that apex 21 pro lol
It’s LEGIT! Great advise!
It would be nice to know the set of clubs you currently play with. Just a suggestion. Nice content!
Right here - ruclips.net/video/UeVL23eVY64/видео.html
Will you do a reviet of wilson d9 forged. Takomo 101t. Titleist t200 and taylormade p790. Please.
Justin Rose just Won Pebble with a combination of the Cobra King Tour/CB/MB after leaving Takomo. Kind of funny how different things work for different people. Rose is mostly playing the CB/MB. It’s crazy how many players clubs there actually are now from each brand. No way you could ever cover them all. This is super informative though.
As a former Statistics Major THANK YOU for eliminating the outliers this annoys me with literally every other You Tuber. It would be interesting to see what kind of impact hitting 14 shots and eliminating top and bottom two would have for us statistic geeks.
Ya so cool to see Rose win with his new bag. We’re always playing around with different ideas on how to present the data I get. Glad this way worked for a stats guy👊🏻
We’re getting ready to film our 2023 driver bracket. What formula would you use to determine if one driver is better than the other? Taking the opinion of feel, sounds, looks price etc out of the equation?
Could you take a look at Sub 70 irons? They would be in the "budget" category, but I have heard alot of good things about them.
Trying to build this category. Harder to get our hands on these types of clubs.
Did you ever do the Ping i230 fitting to see what happened with it dialed in?
I haven't. I was fit into the new T100s. I'll try to set up an full iron fitting video this season with Jeremy.
Should’ve test the Callaway TCB irons. John rahm, Xander and Sam Burns play them
I’m from Calgary as well and I watched right through to what I wanted to see, the Cobra King Tour irons. I moved into them last season but in the gorgeous (anti-glare) copper finish. Aside from being very striking, I get a lot of looks and questions, these play and feel fantastic. I’m not surprised you enjoyed that session.
Nice! Ya they're great irons and glad you're enjoying them. Thanks for watching and maybe we'll run into each other on the course. 🍻 ⛳🏌️
@@NewNineGolf there’s more than a fair chance that this could happen, I have 2 buddies who are members at CH, one of them even pointed out your channel a little while ago. It’s gonna be a busy season if/when it finally starts. I’ve been enjoying what I’ve seen from you so far, as a lefty I’m so jealous for plenty of reasons, I kind of have to accept what (little) is out there for equipment but do my best to arm myself with information before making keen purchases. Next on my list is (perhaps) the Mizuno S23 wedges, at least they are offered in a surprising array of lofts and grinds.
That's awesome. Small world. Who are your buddies? Thanks for watching and supporting the channel. Mizuno def makes nice wedges. Have you looked at vokeys? I think they offer all their lofts and grinds for lefty's as well.
@@NewNineGolf ya Vokeys were a consideration but like everything else I don't get to see much LH inventory anywhere. The default/standard finish of the S23s just happens to be (a slightly different) copper. Those other members are J. DePaoli and N. Rawlings.
Haha just played cards with Jim and hockey with Nick not too long ago. That's awesome.
With the t-100 you should try the project x 6.0. You will have a better dispertion.
Ping is the best for me.
Ya it's a good club.
Thanks Brandon, great review! PXG is apparently the iron of choice on the LPGA. Go figure!
Thanks Greg! Interesting. I had no idea.
Not surprised. Mizuno makes the best irons hands down.
I enjoyed the video, great content as always. I do have an issue with the expert that came in saying 99% don't care what the iron looks like. If an iron doesn't sit right, has a thick top line and too much offset I won't even hit it. So i would dispute that statement. Otherwise great video.
Maybe 99% is drastic but most people he fits rely on the data choosing the club for them. The majority of clubs all look good these days with the exception of a couple based on personal preference. But I agree, I’m not bagging a club I don’t like looking at.
@@NewNineGolf Dig it.. I wasn't trying to sound like a club snob.. I play the Mizuno Pro 221, so I'm a little biased towards minimal looking clubs versus a shovel look. Keep up the good work, your videos are very well done.
Thank you!
Great video review
Thank you 👊🏻
@@NewNineGolf I enjoyed that unbiased review. Can you please review the 2023 drivers in the same format?
Yep sure will! I did a 2022 driver bracket if you haven’t seen that already.
Is there a big difference between the Mizuno Pro 223, JPX Hot Metal Series and Forged? I'm looking at getting irons from them but have no idea which ones are the best
I think theres quite a bit of difference from the Pro 223 to the Hot Metal, with the 223 being smaller, less forgiving but softer feel with more traditional lofts than the Hot metal . The Hot Metal Forged would be in the middle. I dont think you can go wrong with either. Go take a look at the Hot Metal and see if you like the look and feel and go from there. I highly recommend getting fit.
Can’t wait to see a blades comparison r33s would be cool to see
Those are tiny. Haha. Hopefully I can hit them. 😂
@@NewNineGolf hahaha i really want to try them next year but they look so small
and why the Apex Pro instead of TCB
Damn personally I think P7mb are a touch of class. They look great, way better than the ping which looks boring to me. I will say the P7mb werent nearly as soft as I would hope. And as far as Players irons go I look for consistency and feel first then workability and looks
were you using a 6 or 7 iron shaft length in the Ping i230? That may explain the distance gain
I cant remember, I think you're right though.
Let’s get this fitting done fellas!
Everyone overlooks Tour Edge Exotics which have won so many Champions Tour events over the last ten years.
Probably more comparable to average golfer’s swing speeds rather than trying to copy PGA tour players.
Would love to have seen their clubs in this comparison.
Otherwise a great review!
Thoughts on the Cobra Forged Tec? Does it fit more into game improvement? It’s my understanding Cobra see it as a 5-15hcp.
The Cobra Forged Tecs are great. I think they would be a little more forgiving than the Tours. I haven't tested them side by side but they are definitely sleeker looking than their game improvement irons. My friend is a 7 cap, he plays them and loves them.
@@NewNineGolf neat. I have the LTDx driver and am already a Cobra fan boy from that alone. From my understanding the Forged Tec wouldn’t be too dissimilar to the Callaway that you trialled in the video. Am floating around 10hcp and want to move on from my Cleveland CG16s and if I’ve learned anything from this video is to go for a fitting and try a lot of clubs. Thanks!
Love the LTDx drivers. Ya I think they would be comparable to the Callaway's. Definitely go hit them and get fitted! Keep me posted on what you decide on.
Nobody on earth compares a 7MC and a ping i230,they are totally different
Feels like you should've went with the TCB's for Callaway to compare it to those other clubs, the Apex Pro would be closer to a p770 Taylormade than a P7MC.
Oh and also, being Canadian, try to put your hands on some Haywood clubs! I think the price point is similar to Takomo and the build quality is likely a notch higher.
Ya youre probably right on the Callaway's. Just didn't have the TCBs at the time. I'm working on getting my hands on some Haywoods as well. 🍻🇨🇦
I hit my Mizuno 223 6 iron about 170 every time on the fly. I thought these were leaning more on old traditional lofts. My Sim 2 went 195 and was hot!
I hit mine 180, I lost 10 yards from my old set but the control is better and the feel is amazing 🤷♂️. I considered going 225 instead but chasing distance is silly
@@TheSleepArtist agreed, distance helps but the reason I switched was I wanted something that had better dispersion and control. My Sims were wild sometimes and yeah 90% of it could of been me but face consistency is what I wanted. Players irons aren’t jumpy like game improvements. My buddy was hitting his Ping G400 or whatever in a warm up and he’s like why am I hitting my 9 iron 175 right now when it usually goes 160 max 😂
Apex pro are more hollow body right? Not knocking it bc the numbers don't lie. Forgiving and good numbers.
Yes
@@NewNineGolf makes me wanna try those bad boys out. Saw them at the shop and they were clean looking. Last question. Did you see any fliers I guess you would say. Sometimes I wonder if people get flier confused with well struck shot lol
I did not. I went over that in the review. I have chapters in the description of the video so it’s easy to find if you want to watch that part again.
Unless you are being paid by Takomo, you need to review New Level clubs. The 623-CB clubs are some of the best and workable on the market and are DTC.
We reached out to them, Haywood and Takamo. Still hoping to get our hands New Level and Haywood clubs to test. Ya the 623 CB looks sweet!
So basically, whenever you dislike the look of a club, we can already stop the video because we already know you’re not gonna like the clubs performance
Feel free to look at the data. You can watch the video on mute if you want.
No Srixon included?
Adapter broke the day of filming. Well try to do a follow up with the Srixons n maybe some other irons.
Wtf , I play the Wilson v6 and they are one of the best irons out 😂 feel like butter
Srixon ZX7?
Adapter was broken. Couldn’t hit it unfortunately.
the wilsons are great, operator error
No operator error with other clubs? Makes sense. Lol
TM mcs are the same feel as the pings?
I think the Pings feel better. But feel is so subjective.
Also wish you hit the 502s 😢
Me too... haha need to get my hands on them.
Feel is so subjective. I've owned the P770, P7MC and T100 within a month, and the T100 doesn't feel anywhere near as good as the P7MC. I think it depends on the shaft, but even a 620MB and a T100 are poles apart in feel with the same shaft. The T100 is too click to be classed as a "great" feeling iron. It sounds awful.
What Miuras do you play? I just bought the MC502
MC501. Still amazing irons. Love the feel.
@@NewNineGolf that’s what I upgraded from. Had 2 sets of them over the years. Only complaint is the offset. Otherwise darn near perfect iron.
That perfect hit feels like butter!
anyone see that one of his mishits with the T100s went 253? xD
found some used mizuno MP4s for 250bux. guess ill keep them a bit longer lol
Enjoyed the test but the apex pro had no business in this category being the only hollow body. TCB would have been more appropriate. Also, it seemed with the titleist, it was more fade biased and because you like to see a draw, i think you fought that a bit and thats why you saw a few bad pulls. What even more interesting is almost everything is really good, can “work”, just comes down to looks, feel and of course price. Gotta set of Takomos and they are as good as anything out there at half the price.
Ya I didn't know it was hollow body. I just told Jeremy to give me each brands players iron. He must've not had the TCB. I'll try to do a follow up to this and maybe a hollow body showdown. Ya the Takamos are really good. Enjoy. 🍻
Looking forward to that! The Mizuno 225 will do great in that one too. Be sure to include the Takomo 101T!
General comment/question - I really like your reviews but when you post long ones like this, which are really great, could you first do a high level summary of your findings and results? I know it spoils things a bit but it's tough when people might want to get the gist quickly of the review with out needing to skip around or invest 56 minutes to watch the entire thing. Keto up the work 👍
I understand the concern. The best we could do in this case is add chapters to the video so if there was one iron you wanted to see you can find it easily. Same with the results. A lot of our subscribers do enjoy the full video so believe it or not, this IS the condensed version. If you couldn’t find the chapters, they are below the description of the video. Thanks for the support 👊🏻
@@NewNineGolf the chapters definitely help, thanks! I have t100s myself and love them but I hit down very aggressively and I take monster divots. Did you feel like any of the other irons had more bounce or would be better in softer conditions?
The soles of the new Taylormade P7MC are wider than previous years. May be good for you. Obviously going to recommend the Mizuno Pro 223’s as well.
where's the apex tcb?!?
Great video! Curious why you don’t compare them all at once in the trackman software? Personally I’d like to see all irons on the dispersion map as well as the shot data versus looking at each iron individually.
Hey Thanks. Theres a lot of things software I need to dive into. Haba. But I can definitely do that for the next video. 🍻
"how do I say this without sounding like a douche" loved that XD
😂🤙🏻
Unless you’re gaming Miura mb-101, I wouldn’t say these clubs you’re testing are better feels than Miura.
I was gaming T100s and been hitting Titleist pretty much since I started golfing and I’ve hit other brands, now I’m gaming Miura cb-301. I gotta say I don’t think I want to hit anything other than Miura. The butter feeling of Miura is unmatched.
And Takomo are Scandinavian base and manufacture in China.
I have the MC501’s and they do feel great. But half of these irons feel as good and potentially 1 or 2 of them feel better.
Feel is subjective. What feels good for one person may feel bad for someone else.
Which feels better to ya then Miura? Apex and Mizuno?
Miura, Mizuno then Apex. Apex felt different. Prob best feeling hollow body.
Also love to see you do sub70
I think I reached out a while ago and they were sold out. Will try again.
@@NewNineGolf cool even if it was you going to there fitting studio be cool to see what you make of there stuff like to look of the Tommy armours
Takomo isnt japanese…..its Scandinavian …. Thought it was japanese at first myself
Callaway cb would be a better to compare over apex pro
You may be right. I think either they didn't have it or the pro said this was the best selling one. Couldn't remember tbh.
Wow the cobras are so low
Why does he say Takomo and Muira so weird and my dude sounded like a golf snob when talking about the Wilson Staff CBs which I know to be a great players iron
Holy smokes bro its Takomo pronounced Ta-ko-mo not Tac-a-mo. What are you, from Canadia aye?
You saying tack-a-mo is killing me.. it's tah- ko-mo.. I getbthey are new but it almost felt like you were getting paid per name drip with the amount if tunes you said it but could have just been me noticing it more bc it was incorrectly said
The video is a year old. The correction has been made. Canadian English dialect 🤷♂️
225 6 iron is kind of stupid in the first place, if you are doing that then just play and mb if you are so concerned with "ma feels"
Man, that would not have been my ranking for you. Apex Pro 21.....do not get great grades for feel in forums. I had a set and they were much worse feeling than the 19 version (which I also owned).
I loved them 🤷♂️
@@NewNineGolf You didn't hit them outdoors and on a course.... Big difference in my experience with them. Note: I wanted to love them, the from 4 iron to 7 iron though....the fee/sound is no bueno.
Get Chris Vosh on the channel!
I'm trying! Sent him a message. Haha
Ping spin was very low for a 7 iron.
Ya you're right. Other guys hit it too and that's what they found as well. Might have to do a more in depth review on those.
Players, players distance, cast cavity, forged mc.... kind of lost me with this comparison.
You go for a fitting and ask a fitter for “non blade player irons” this is the collection you get.
nice 5 irons you got there
Dear God no Srixon ZXs
Mizuno makes the best irons and really great wedges, but everything’s else isn’t that great
Ya I'm definitely starting to understand what all the fuzz about with Mizuno irons. Haha. Their new drivers are actually not bad either. Did our driver bracket earlier this year and it kept up.
"Wiiiiilsooooooooon!!!!!"
Tom Hanks? Is that you?
The Ping is a game improvement iron, not a player iron. Are you qualified to test golf clubs.
There are actually tour players that play the i230. And it says player style iron on their website 🤷♂️.... I included the i59 in this year's video. Hopefully I'm qualified to test those .... 😬