man this disorder is insane. a few years ago when I wasn't working I would naturally feel tired at 4am and would go to sleep and wake up around 12 and I felt great and energized all the time and had no issues with falling and staying asleep. but since then I've been working and my latest job has me starting at 6am (waking up at 5am to get ready) even though my body typically doesn't let me sleep until midnight or even sometimes until 3 in the morning. I've tried shifting my sleep cycle with early morning sunlight, no caffeine, eating early in the morning, dim warm lights in the evening ect but it just doesn't seem to budge no matter what I do, so I think in my case it's genetic. it sucks for all of us that are forced into bad sleep because we have to live according to the rest of society.
I didn’t know what this was until I had a polysomnogram done and was diagnosed with delayed rem cycle. I thought it was just a night owl. Of course I also have insomnia and depression, as well as stress and anxiety disorder. People think you’re lazy. They just don’t get it. It’s a chronic condition.
Even worse, I thought I was lazy!!! In addition to the aforementioned, I have ADHD, and MAN does it love to come alive at night!?! So glad to know I’m not the things they said I was…..and that there are others in this same fight
This is so true. Just bc I sleep in the day and show up late to school half asleep bc of this , people call me lazy when they're getting much more sleep than me. Sad part is , during the 3 years of me having this I did give into what other people thought about me.
I close my eyes for 3 hours and nothing happens, eventually I go into a sleep state misconception, where I get up for the next day, and I'm not even sure if I've slept or not. I think the problem for many is not DSPD but stressing about sleeping, I have a tip for people that have that issues. Remember this. Bed is for rest. Not stress. Get up if you're just gonna stress about sleeping. The more you stress about it the worse time you'll have sleeping.
It’s not a problem and I don’t believe it’s a disorder. I believe it’s a God given gift. Think back in ancient times when someone had to be up at night to watch over their tribe. Someone had to be the watchmen right? Well some of us are naturally “Watchmen” it’s in our DNA 🧬 we are designed by God to be up at night and sleep during the day. Everybody can’t do third shift jobs but we can! 😊
I had DSP (Delayed sleep phase disorder) and I looked for solutions everywhere but nothing worked. (People have this all their lives) I was going into depression anxiety and couldn't go out in public in the daytime becz the outside environment instantly triggered anxiety. Productivity = 0. All because of sleep disorder (5+ years into this). Here's what I did and it ABSOLUTEY worked. 1- Eliminated LED lights from my house. Moved to not-so-bright warm and easy-on-eye filament bulbs. (Vintage ones, no blue light) 2- Cut screen time after sunset. No screen at all after sunset whatsoever. (In the day time I use the Night shift on my Computer+phone a little warm color screen) 3- Lots of natural light. I actually put my table in front of a Window while I work. Diet: 1- I stopped eating after sunset until sunrise. This reset my body's clock. 2- Stopped eating 1 hour before sleep. 3- My diet is already Organic. Lots of fruits, carbs etc. You know what, Now, I freakin Sleep like a Baby after sunset until Sunrise. I NEVER slept so well like this in 5 years. I woke up with no headaches. Healthy Gut. My body felt super energetic. This is the real treatment. ELIMINATE! Things that tell your brain the wrong information at the wrong time. Bright LED Bulbs and screens tell the brain, it's Day time when it's time to sleep. My life has changed A LOT. Just wanted to share this here to help if someone is going thru DSP. This is the fix. QUIT BLUE LIGHT.
@@damaster7276 It fixed my eye strain problem, bad mood, daytime sleepiness, laziness you name it. But it took 2 months in total. The overall effect was FANTASTIC. Just get rid of LED stuff. Minimise phone usage, and always keep the night shift mode on (AT ALL TIME)..
THank you, but please answer some more questions i have, as i suffer from this aswell: So you keep the nightmode on all devices on even during the day? And after sunset you dont use Computers and phones at all? Thank you in advance@@Hamza-xc9kb
I'm 70 now and have been dealing with this since I was a teen. I'm still working but currently stuck in a day job. I've been able to deal with this over the years by getting night jobs where I would thrive, but now on days I'm sleepy all the time and in a constant state of jet lag. I went to yet another sleep center today where they blathered on about light therapy and the usual "resetting your clock" and other crap which obviously has no effect. Maybe some day science will catch up with this problem and figure out how to deal with it, but right now they seem to be clueless. I'm starting an evening job in a couple of weeks, so I'm hoping to get some relief. HEY MODERN MEDICINE: It isn't about light. Blind people have this too, but it's easier for you to explain it away with the whole light exposure rationale. Try moving beyond that and see what you come up with.
HOW HAVE I NEVER HEARD ABOUT THIS!!!??? I got sleep issues that (I assume) are due to psychological problems but could never ‘fit’ into insomnia etc and even ended up making appointments for M.E (still pending rip). This fits the bill the most (still gonna see the others but this clicked instantly)
Idk I have this, but literally it’s 4:19 am and I’m not even tired I’m wide awake like it’s another day! But when I go to sleep and wake up in the morning I’m tired I don’t get it
I once plugged all the windows in my room with cardboard and since the light wasn't there to wake me up, I would often sleep well into the afternoon between 4 and 5pm. On some occasions I would wake up around 6pm and wasn't sure if it was dusk or dawn.
@@tanyawieczorek6603 That was back in my late teens. Nowadays, I wake up after almost exactly 8hrs but 7hrs seems to be the sweet spot because I don't feel groggy and I feel like I'm stealing an hour for myself in the morning. Sleep quality fluctuates though.
My sleep time is around 5-6am until 12-2pm although due to ADHD, being on the autism spectrum, suffering from anxiety and depression I often have to manage with 2-4 hours sleep and feeling constantly exhausted, grumpy, listless or unmotivated which makes day-to-day life a challenge.
It keeps shifting everyday , currently i am not working hence no strict routine and therefore to be revitalised everyday i allow myself to sleep whenever i feel like. Although when i was working i had a regular sleep time most of the month.
Discovered this just the other day. My body gets tired around 6am and I usually get up around 2-3 pm and hate myself for being this way. I've worked a shift job for many years and would be absolutely knackered in the afternoon when I got up around 4 or 5 am. Now I work for myself but I find it hard to adjust with the working hours. Getting up before 10 (if I didn't work) has always been a challenge for me
neither. say you take a week and only go to sleep when you start to get sleepy and sleep as long as your body needs, no alarms. you can figure out your circadian rhythme. having DSPS is one kind poor sleep routine means youre fighting your bodys natural circadian rhythme our current society values early risers and Punishes late sleepers, so ALL people with DSPS will have poor sleep routines, unless they have jobs that accommodate for being a late sleeper. otherwise, were fighting our bodys natural sleep cycle, which literally kills us faster than early risers
Whether your sleep gets delayed when someone like friends, relatives come to your home?...i mean fear of sleep if someone come to our home or if we go to their place
My current sleep wake cycle is 5am (Feeling sleepy) to 1 or 2pm (waking up). When I have a job and have to wake up at 6am, it takes me a few weeks to adjust to the new pattern and I am very sleep deprived for those weeks. The second I don't have to go into work I sleep late way too much. If I don't get up everyday at 6am then my pattern is compromised. This means I can't sleep in on the weekend and If I drink alcohol that will make me sleep late too. I think people who suffer from this condition, who need to work 9 to 5 jobs, shouldn't go out drinking on the weekend and should treat weekends as weekdays in terms of waking up. You can force an earlier pattern but it takes inner strength, motivation, self care, a relaxing home environment, patience and discipline.
@inutero10 I'm really sorry you're dealing with that. Depression and fatigue can be incredibly overwhelming. It's important to reach out for support, whether from a mental health professional, support groups, or trusted friends and family. In addition to professional help, finding small ways to manage daily tasks and practicing self-care can make a difference. Remember, you're not alone, and seeking help is a crucial step towards feeling better.
@differentlyrome9732 That sounds wonderful! Many creative minds thrive at night, and it's great to hear that you embrace your night owl tendencies. Being a cat lady just adds to the cozy vibe! If you find inspiration during those late hours, keep harnessing that creativity-there’s something magical about nighttime musings! Keep enjoying those peaceful nights! 🌙😺❤️
For a healthier sleep cycle, try establishing a consistent bedtime routine, reducing screen time before bed, and considering melatonin supplements if needed ❤️
Same here , for 10 years now, lost jobs, lost friends, lost fun i could had, going to a holiday it s a no go, i m pale cause the sun never sees me, it s terrible but i m still fighting it, one day we ll beat this thing
'the stress can lead to stress'
I particularly like that line
man this disorder is insane. a few years ago when I wasn't working I would naturally feel tired at 4am and would go to sleep and wake up around 12 and I felt great and energized all the time and had no issues with falling and staying asleep. but since then I've been working and my latest job has me starting at 6am (waking up at 5am to get ready) even though my body typically doesn't let me sleep until midnight or even sometimes until 3 in the morning.
I've tried shifting my sleep cycle with early morning sunlight, no caffeine, eating early in the morning, dim warm lights in the evening ect but it just doesn't seem to budge no matter what I do, so I think in my case it's genetic.
it sucks for all of us that are forced into bad sleep because we have to live according to the rest of society.
I didn’t know what this was until I had a polysomnogram done and was diagnosed with delayed rem cycle. I thought it was just a night owl. Of course I also have insomnia and depression, as well as stress and anxiety disorder. People think you’re lazy. They just don’t get it. It’s a chronic condition.
Yeah i feel that
Even worse, I thought I was lazy!!! In addition to the aforementioned, I have ADHD, and MAN does it love to come alive at night!?! So glad to know I’m not the things they said I was…..and that there are others in this same fight
I also have a delayed rem cycle in polysomnogram and diagnosed with dspd
This is so true. Just bc I sleep in the day and show up late to school half asleep bc of this , people call me lazy when they're getting much more sleep than me. Sad part is , during the 3 years of me having this I did give into what other people thought about me.
Oh my god so true
With a 9-5 job my life turned to hell
Sorry about that
Totally! I had to give up working as I couldn’t maintain it.
I close my eyes for 3 hours and nothing happens, eventually I go into a sleep state misconception, where I get up for the next day, and I'm not even sure if I've slept or not. I think the problem for many is not DSPD but stressing about sleeping, I have a tip for people that have that issues. Remember this. Bed is for rest. Not stress. Get up if you're just gonna stress about sleeping. The more you stress about it the worse time you'll have sleeping.
I have been suffering from this problem since I was 4.
It’s not a problem and I don’t believe it’s a disorder. I believe it’s a God given gift. Think back in ancient times when someone had to be up at night to watch over their tribe. Someone had to be the watchmen right? Well some of us are naturally “Watchmen” it’s in our DNA 🧬 we are designed by God to be up at night and sleep during the day. Everybody can’t do third shift jobs but we can! 😊
Good for you
@@joshuaoldroyd7902 what kind of inconsiderate response is that?
Maybe you need to be breastfed to relieve the sufferings
I had DSP (Delayed sleep phase disorder) and I looked for solutions everywhere but nothing worked. (People have this all their lives) I was going into depression anxiety and couldn't go out in public in the daytime becz the outside environment instantly triggered anxiety. Productivity = 0. All because of sleep disorder (5+ years into this). Here's what I did and it ABSOLUTEY worked.
1- Eliminated LED lights from my house. Moved to not-so-bright warm and easy-on-eye filament bulbs. (Vintage ones, no blue light)
2- Cut screen time after sunset. No screen at all after sunset whatsoever. (In the day time I use the Night shift on my Computer+phone a little warm color screen)
3- Lots of natural light. I actually put my table in front of a Window while I work.
Diet:
1- I stopped eating after sunset until sunrise. This reset my body's clock.
2- Stopped eating 1 hour before sleep.
3- My diet is already Organic. Lots of fruits, carbs etc.
You know what, Now, I freakin Sleep like a Baby after sunset until Sunrise. I NEVER slept so well like this in 5 years. I woke up with no headaches. Healthy Gut. My body felt super energetic.
This is the real treatment. ELIMINATE! Things that tell your brain the wrong information at the wrong time. Bright LED Bulbs and screens tell the brain, it's Day time when it's time to sleep.
My life has changed A LOT. Just wanted to share this here to help if someone is going thru DSP. This is the fix. QUIT BLUE LIGHT.
Yesssirrr🙌🙌
Did it also fix the day time fatigue/sleepyness?
@@damaster7276 It fixed my eye strain problem, bad mood, daytime sleepiness, laziness you name it. But it took 2 months in total. The overall effect was FANTASTIC. Just get rid of LED stuff. Minimise phone usage, and always keep the night shift mode on (AT ALL TIME)..
THank you, but please answer some more questions i have, as i suffer from this aswell: So you keep the nightmode on all devices on even during the day? And after sunset you dont use Computers and phones at all? Thank you in advance@@Hamza-xc9kb
I've had DSPS since I was a kid, and we sure didn't have LED lights or cell phones back then lol heck we didn't even have a computer!
I'm 70 now and have been dealing with this since I was a teen. I'm still working but currently stuck in a day job. I've been able to deal with this over the years by getting night jobs where I would thrive, but now on days I'm sleepy all the time and in a constant state of jet lag. I went to yet another sleep center today where they blathered on about light therapy and the usual "resetting your clock" and other crap which obviously has no effect. Maybe some day science will catch up with this problem and figure out how to deal with it, but right now they seem to be clueless. I'm starting an evening job in a couple of weeks, so I'm hoping to get some relief. HEY MODERN MEDICINE: It isn't about light. Blind people have this too, but it's easier for you to explain it away with the whole light exposure rationale. Try moving beyond that and see what you come up with.
Your whole skin surface detects light, not just the eyes...
HOW HAVE I NEVER HEARD ABOUT THIS!!!???
I got sleep issues that (I assume) are due to psychological problems but could never ‘fit’ into insomnia etc and even ended up making appointments for M.E (still pending rip). This fits the bill the most (still gonna see the others but this clicked instantly)
Idk I have this, but literally it’s 4:19 am and I’m not even tired I’m wide awake like it’s another day! But when I go to sleep and wake up in the morning I’m tired I don’t get it
I once plugged all the windows in my room with cardboard and since the light wasn't there to wake me up, I would often sleep well into the afternoon between 4 and 5pm. On some occasions I would wake up around 6pm and wasn't sure if it was dusk or dawn.
How is your sleep now?
@@tanyawieczorek6603 That was back in my late teens. Nowadays, I wake up after almost exactly 8hrs but 7hrs seems to be the sweet spot because I don't feel groggy and I feel like I'm stealing an hour for myself in the morning.
Sleep quality fluctuates though.
I do not know anyone with this that is only delayed by 2 hours
We are 4 to 6 hours delayed
I’m 12 hrs delayed🥲
My sleep time is around 5-6am until 12-2pm although due to ADHD, being on the autism spectrum, suffering from anxiety and depression I often have to manage with 2-4 hours sleep and feeling constantly exhausted, grumpy, listless or unmotivated which makes day-to-day life a challenge.
@@Smudgie33can you get a job that accommodates your natural schedule?
Yup dude...
My delay time is at least 4 hours,or sometime it increases to even 7/8 hours 😢
It keeps shifting everyday , currently i am not working hence no strict routine and therefore to be revitalised everyday i allow myself to sleep whenever i feel like. Although when i was working i had a regular sleep time most of the month.
Discovered this just the other day. My body gets tired around 6am and I usually get up around 2-3 pm and hate myself for being this way.
I've worked a shift job for many years and would be absolutely knackered in the afternoon when I got up around 4 or 5 am. Now I work for myself but I find it hard to adjust with the working hours. Getting up before 10 (if I didn't work) has always been a challenge for me
Sorry to hear that
Yes, but does poor sleep routine cause DSPS or does DSPS cause poor sleep routine?
neither. say you take a week and only go to sleep when you start to get sleepy and sleep as long as your body needs, no alarms. you can figure out your circadian rhythme. having DSPS is one kind
poor sleep routine means youre fighting your bodys natural circadian rhythme
our current society values early risers and Punishes late sleepers, so ALL people with DSPS will have poor sleep routines, unless they have jobs that accommodate for being a late sleeper. otherwise, were fighting our bodys natural sleep cycle, which literally kills us faster than early risers
I have been suffering for 10 years and always looking for a solution to this
Sorry about your condition. Have you visited a doctor yet?
@@MedicalCentric Did already but couldn't find any specialized sleep doctor around me 😭
@@trisharahman3320 😞
@@trisharahman3320 are u following an intact sleep schedule? how's the condition now
Whether your sleep gets delayed when someone like friends, relatives come to your home?...i mean fear of sleep if someone come to our home or if we go to their place
My current sleep wake cycle is 5am (Feeling sleepy) to 1 or 2pm (waking up). When I have a job and have to wake up at 6am, it takes me a few weeks to adjust to the new pattern and I am very sleep deprived for those weeks. The second I don't have to go into work I sleep late way too much. If I don't get up everyday at 6am then my pattern is compromised. This means I can't sleep in on the weekend and If I drink alcohol that will make me sleep late too. I think people who suffer from this condition, who need to work 9 to 5 jobs, shouldn't go out drinking on the weekend and should treat weekends as weekdays in terms of waking up. You can force an earlier pattern but it takes inner strength, motivation, self care, a relaxing home environment, patience and discipline.
Have you considered a night shift job
It’s such an uphill battle when one late night undoes all your progress
I don't know if I have it because I struggle with sleeping. And find it hard to wake up
Watching this wide awake at 2:30am. Starting to get ready for bed only because I know I should.
Prioritizing sleep is crucial for your health-getting some rest will make a big difference. ❤️
I recently started getting this, and this is so bad, I had such a good sleep schedule
This video is very helpful for me. thank you 👍
You are welcome
This disorder keeps me away from so many things, it s terrible
sorry to hear that
Enlightening!
Man i have this . The depression n fatigue is killing me.
@inutero10 I'm really sorry you're dealing with that. Depression and fatigue can be incredibly overwhelming. It's important to reach out for support, whether from a mental health professional, support groups, or trusted friends and family. In addition to professional help, finding small ways to manage daily tasks and practicing self-care can make a difference. Remember, you're not alone, and seeking help is a crucial step towards feeling better.
Nice 👌🏻
Thank you! Cheers!
Nice
Thanks
Dsps or not but I love love love the nights and my mind and creativity mostly works that time❤nightowl cat lady here who loves dsps😂
@differentlyrome9732 That sounds wonderful! Many creative minds thrive at night, and it's great to hear that you embrace your night owl tendencies. Being a cat lady just adds to the cozy vibe! If you find inspiration during those late hours, keep harnessing that creativity-there’s something magical about nighttime musings! Keep enjoying those peaceful nights! 🌙😺❤️
I'm watching this at two a clock in the morning beacuse.. I CANT SLEEP LIKE .... I WAKE UP AT 1PM AND GO TO BED AT 5-6-4 AM 😞
For a healthier sleep cycle, try establishing a consistent bedtime routine, reducing screen time before bed, and considering melatonin supplements if needed ❤️
@@MedicalCentric thanks!
dayum they really had to call me out with my spectrum stuffies im a teen with ADHD ocd dyslexia anger issues pba deppresion
Your unique qualities and strengths shine through, making you who you are. ❤️
@@MedicalCentric :)
that perfectly matches me
👍
I have DSPD Non 24
Can you please share more about it ? I was diagnosed with delayed sleep phase syndrome ten years ago but I’m suspecting to have the non 24 hrs now
I sleep on the mornings. Need to say more? I constantly need melanin sprays, valerian root etc.
Me too. I fall asleep at 6am. My sleep cycle is seriously messed up...
I think you meant melatonin. Melanin is what tints the skin..
@@Nelo_Wolfsame..
I have been suffering from this problem for nearly 2 years.
It just destroyed my normal life...😢
I'm sorry to hear that you're experiencing this. It might be helpful to consult a sleep specialist to address your concerns.
Same here , for 10 years now, lost jobs, lost friends, lost fun i could had, going to a holiday it s a no go, i m pale cause the sun never sees me, it s terrible but i m still fighting it, one day we ll beat this thing