Got to love a soft starter that thing would have growled so bad without that type of starter bringing it into mains. 420 amps still! Awesome and smooth system
@@sus7382 on tiny little drone motor wires? Idk Edit: for anyone curious, I don’t know the specs of this drone setup but it’s impressive. ruclips.net/video/87JJ7WkRpLc/видео.html
Our hammer mill used one of these motors. The high light of my day was starting it up at 5 am. You could hear that thing wind up a half mile down the street.
The motor noise is the least concern if they can hear the motor starting up by itself. When a hammer mill is crushing scrap it makes a noise like if there was a waterfall of metal scrap thundering down from at least 100 meters. Its insanley loud so I say poor neighbours living close to that. They have to be deaf by now or at least really mad at the constant deafening clattering noise going on for hours a day all over their neighbourhood from morning to evning! ruclips.net/video/evXay0YZwFE/видео.html Hammermill startup vs crushing. The difference in noise. You dont want this anywhere near your neighbourhood!
It’s 231Amp line current in Y configuration. In Delta configuration is 400Amp . So no idea where you got the 1600Amp from. Meter even reads only up to 800A .
I agree. When I was younger I used to think "wow, a Corvette can make enough power to run a Wal-Mart" Not sure if that's actually true, but it seems plausible. 😃
@@not0evn its like big semi trucks, they are like 300hp but they move tons of stuff. no way a corvette can do that. gatta look at torque as well when determining stuff like this
@@ronaldwoofer5024 it’s horsepower that matters. You can make any amount of torque with gear ratios. The reason why the corvette can’t pull as much as a semi is because it’s first gear doesn’t amplify its torque nearly as much as a semi’s first gear does. But if you swapped a 500hp corvette engine into a 300hp semi, the semi would accelerate faster and have a higher top speed.
We have a 263kw motor but sure as he'll doesn't start like this. It has a vfd which stops that over current draw. Not sure why one hasn't been installed here yet cause it sure helps with the life of the motor
big motors need to be on 4160 if at all possible. they ramp up so much quicker. we have 3x 900hp motors at work that ramp to full speed in under 5s on their starters. they pull about 400amps at 4160 on startup. it's wild
@liam3284 4160 in the us is line to line which is what I meant. it's a difference to how Europe and other places measure it which as you mention is line to neutral.
Y’all should see when they fire up the mixer motors for the banbury’s at BF Goodrich. I don’t know the wattage but they run on 4160v and have two of them connected shaft to shaft to spin a gearbox
@@paulmorrow8372 Oh yeah. I’m an industrial mechanic at the BF Goodrich Fort Wayne plant. I’ve walked through the high voltage room (they call it high voltage there) to verify lockouts with the electricians for some work and man… that whole room hums and vibrates. Scary stuff
I've got 1120 kilowatt 4160v 1500 hp blower motors at work that are terrifying to be around especially since I've seen what they do when the fan comes apart
I don't know what's wrong with the title and what is shown in the vid. Current meter shows 120 amps (0:50) at terminal rotation speed and the title says 400v, so the power rating comes to 400x120=48000watts, so 48000/1000 gives 48kW. How 160 kW?
The title is all wrong, if it really operates at 400 volts, this means when the motor settled on approx 150 amps in the video it consumes about 60 kw, and started up at 350 amps or 140 kw, so it is completely far from 160 kw because the power of motors is originally measured when settling, not during starting up
I would say it is drawing more than 400 amps for a little while if you read the description is says about it drawing 1600 amps but that can’t be displayed easily
@T o b i L o s GaMiNg Then you immediately take the equipment out of service and start a major investigation. The body of a motor should NOT be live. If the company won't fix it, call OSHA.
Can somebody confirm- It draws 400 Amps for a minute. Is that 7 Amp hours of energy? That's like 3 18650 batteries. Not too bad. 120 Amps of that is load however...
Estos motores eléctricos para grandes winches arada necesitan arrancador y mucha más potencia eléctrica Los pequeños no incluso si le dejas el cables destensado unos metros no subiré al arrancar pero estos el arranque es bestial !! Necesitas más potencia eléctrica pero dan producciones para ciudades
Ese motor podría con las aradas de un tractor de los más grandes Para aprovechar una arada de un tractor de los mas grandes y no reducirla puedes reducir la velocidad de enrrollado de cable asta que con esa potencia pueda
Then consider you have two more even more powerful motors in a high end Tesla. And that starting them up is just a matter of extending your foot slightly.
Yes. Nominal power is 160 kW but because there is no work load, motor takes only 120 amps at the beginning (after motor is started). sqrt(3) x 400 V x120 A = 83,1 kVA.
startovací proud je vždy několikanásobně vyšší než provozní hlavně záleží na zátěži a zde evidentně roztáčí něco hodně těžkého. V práci máme například 1050kW motory na 6kV a ty mají jmenovitý proud 145A ale při rozběhu berou 400A (roztáčí těžkou vrtuli ventilátoru, viz. můj kanál)
It draws 400A, 133A per Phase when its running (400V), thats 160kW, like the Video says. If you would read the description, it draws about 533 Amps per Phase at start (400V, too)! Thats 1600A and 640 kW. I dont know how you get the idea that a 400V motor would run at a lower voltage, you always run a motor at a constant voltage and change its power by regulating the amps.
@@gabrielv.4358 sure you have 110/220V at home just like the USA, but if you visit a factory in Brazil you will see that they have 400V power for all their big motors. In Europe we just run the same voltage both at home and in factories: 240/400V. 240V is for all regular wall sockets, 400V for our water heaters, well pumps etc.
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Got to love a soft starter that thing would have growled so bad without that type of starter bringing it into mains. 420 amps still! Awesome and smooth system
Starting current is around 1600 Amps but this meter cannot show you more than 450A because limitations of CTs
Yeah, I thought that meter was showing amps, not volts as in the title.
It must have a start to delta starter
Came across a 100 hp with ramp speed setting way too fast on vfd. Belts sounded like a car doing a burnout on start up .
Wouldn't be pulling 1600 amps inrush with a soft start. It's a wye-delta start.
Crazy to see a motor that size drawing more power than an entire city block...
Just wait till you see FPV quads, some X class rigs with motors just the size of your hand can pull 400+ amps total at full throttle
@@sus7382 Not at 400v 3phase
@@solaroid4442 50v 3 phase brushless pulling that much is still VERY impressive
@@sus7382 50v? Where? 😂
@@sus7382 on tiny little drone motor wires? Idk
Edit: for anyone curious, I don’t know the specs of this drone setup but it’s impressive. ruclips.net/video/87JJ7WkRpLc/видео.html
we have a 600kw motor for a compressor. When the engine is started, the light in the entire system briefly dims.
you should see our bowthruster motor get into 1200A when we maneuvered and almsot crashed to berthed fishing vessels
inrush current can be crazy
what's the compressor for?
@@debug8377 thermal wastewater treatment
@@jonasklemm32 ah okay
Our hammer mill used one of these motors. The high light of my day was starting it up at 5 am. You could hear that thing wind up a half mile down the street.
That's one hell of an alarm clock for neighbors within half a mile lol XD 🙊🤭😆😂😂🤣
The motor noise is the least concern if they can hear the motor starting up by itself. When a hammer mill is crushing scrap it makes a noise like if there was a waterfall of metal scrap thundering down from at least 100 meters. Its insanley loud so I say poor neighbours living close to that. They have to be deaf by now or at least really mad at the constant deafening clattering noise going on for hours a day all over their neighbourhood from morning to evning! ruclips.net/video/evXay0YZwFE/видео.html Hammermill startup vs crushing. The difference in noise. You dont want this anywhere near your neighbourhood!
woah, seeing the amps dip down to running very sharply as the motor syncs to the power input. very neat
I used to rewind motors like this. It takes me back.
1600 Amp @ 400V. thats nutty
Where do you get 1600A from?
It’s 231Amp line current in Y configuration. In Delta configuration is 400Amp . So no idea where you got the 1600Amp from. Meter even reads only up to 800A .
@@Txepetxcc it's the inrush current
@@tbuitendyk oh wow. Well, that should be it 😝. Poor CTs
@@Txepetxcc 1600 amps came from the description
star delta start quite smooth actually, high inertia load.
I've got a 2 horse power air compressor. I'm pretty happy with it. Lights dim when it starts direct on line 🤣🤣
@@liam3284 single phase
160 kW is 217 hp
that really demonstrates how powerful hypercars with lots of hundreds of hps are
I agree. When I was younger I used to think "wow, a Corvette can make enough power to run a Wal-Mart"
Not sure if that's actually true, but it seems plausible. 😃
@@not0evn its like big semi trucks, they are like 300hp but they move tons of stuff. no way a corvette can do that.
gatta look at torque as well when determining stuff like this
@@ronaldwoofer5024 how much torque does your average Wal-Mart consume?
@@not0evn 2 torque a second
@@ronaldwoofer5024 it’s horsepower that matters. You can make any amount of torque with gear ratios. The reason why the corvette can’t pull as much as a semi is because it’s first gear doesn’t amplify its torque nearly as much as a semi’s first gear does. But if you swapped a 500hp corvette engine into a 300hp semi, the semi would accelerate faster and have a higher top speed.
ohhh my go-cart motor. just bought it on amazon. should go a solid 1000mph
Don't tell the feds about the mini nuclear fusion reactor you bought to power it :)
don't you just love the sounds of engines starting up?
I do
I do 😄
motor* engine is for combustion
We have a 263kw motor but sure as he'll doesn't start like this. It has a vfd which stops that over current draw. Not sure why one hasn't been installed here yet cause it sure helps with the life of the motor
Beautiful sound.
Wow... our household submersible pump start and run on 14 amps. But this industrial boy start at 400+ amps..
Old school technology! Just use a soft start technology!
This sound is like, I'm sitting in an M62 Loco!😀
Electric company demand charges ringing like a slot machine jackpot. Lol imagine without the soft start.
What causes the brief transient at 0:54? Was there a momentary insulation failure, or was some auxiliary winding switched in/out?
I think that was the Moment the Motor was switched from Star to Delta configuration
@@austroval4941 Ahh, that makes sense!
Star delta starter changing over.
Start with damper close and open it after acceleration
big motors need to be on 4160 if at all possible. they ramp up so much quicker. we have 3x 900hp motors at work that ramp to full speed in under 5s on their starters. they pull about 400amps at 4160 on startup. it's wild
What's 4160
@liam3284 4160 in the us is line to line which is what I meant. it's a difference to how Europe and other places measure it which as you mention is line to neutral.
Y’all should see when they fire up the mixer motors for the banbury’s at BF Goodrich. I don’t know the wattage but they run on 4160v and have two of them connected shaft to shaft to spin a gearbox
4160 is considered “medium voltage”. I toured a few manufacturers over the years with these. I didn’t even want to look at them!
@@paulmorrow8372 Oh yeah. I’m an industrial mechanic at the BF Goodrich Fort Wayne plant. I’ve walked through the high voltage room (they call it high voltage there) to verify lockouts with the electricians for some work and man… that whole room hums and vibrates. Scary stuff
interesting insight, thank you
I assume the Amp meter is only reading 1 of the 3 phases? Wow, what a grid killer!!
All of them will split the 400amps…
I've got 1120 kilowatt 4160v 1500 hp blower motors at work that are terrifying to be around especially since I've seen what they do when the fan comes apart
please describe!
This sounds like some space ship engine or something like that. Amazing
Sounds like a space ship startup
Would make a good ceiling fan
Хороший мотор. Его бы на медяху разобрать.
I'd like to see this size motor used on a carter style siren.
I don't know what's wrong with the title and what is shown in the vid. Current meter shows 120 amps (0:50) at terminal rotation speed and the title says 400v, so the power rating comes to 400x120=48000watts, so 48000/1000 gives 48kW. How 160 kW?
The title is all wrong, if it really operates at 400 volts, this means when the motor settled on approx 150 amps in the video it consumes about 60 kw, and started up at 350 amps or 140 kw, so it is completely far from 160 kw because the power of motors is originally measured when settling, not during starting up
why would you use 3 ampere Meter when you can use one and just multply it with 3 because 3 phases?
@@Kokosnuss_HD ah, I forgot that
nice one 🙂
It's said on description "1600 A"
Good sound
It works fir a long time at 400 you don't trip any safety?
I would say it is drawing more than 400 amps for a little while if you read the description is says about it drawing 1600 amps but that can’t be displayed easily
@@Smokes-1000 lol
I want a fan like that for my house
What is this used for?
Do it without the soft start. Throw everything you have at it at a dead stop.
It doesn't have a soft start. It's a big-ass blower with a lot of inertia, and a wye-delta starter.
@@akio2589 Throw absolute full power at it at a dead stop!! 😍
Why at startup it takes more current the slowly gets down?
Что он приводит в движение , для чего этот двигатель ?
Ele apanhou um pouco no começo, mas depois foi embora.
Любая индуктивная нагрузка при старте в разы превышает свой номинальный ток. Мотор то по итогу не более 48 кВт потребляет.
До 7 раз пусковой ток выше номинального
can you do some video about circuit start with induction motor to 150kw and higher???
Looks like direct start. I see 2 cables but don´t hear any sound change like with star-delta configuration.
@@StakrCZ Y -> D happens at 0:55. That is why amp meter jumps.
@@inductoservice9866 yeah true :D
Its a regular timer controlled star delta circuit. Its a lot bigger in size of cause because of the giant amperage beeing drawn.
So what's this motor powering?
What is the motor powering?
I would slap that motor cover just for the sake of it
@T o b i L o s GaMiNg Then you immediately take the equipment out of service and start a major investigation. The body of a motor should NOT be live. If the company won't fix it, call OSHA.
Pretty sure the A on the gauge is amps not volts.
the sound its like horror movie
Can somebody confirm-
It draws 400 Amps for a minute. Is that 7 Amp hours of energy? That's like 3 18650 batteries. Not too bad. 120 Amps of that is load however...
1600 amps starting current at 400VAC?? What a beast!
Estos motores eléctricos para grandes winches arada necesitan arrancador y mucha más potencia eléctrica
Los pequeños no incluso si le dejas el cables destensado unos metros no subiré al arrancar pero estos el arranque es bestial !!
Necesitas más potencia eléctrica pero dan producciones para ciudades
What's it for?
wye start delta run?
whats that blower for
ABB frequency inverter plus motor.
Kabel apa dah yg bisa buat 1600 Ampere ?
Ese motor podría con las aradas de un tractor de los más grandes
Para aprovechar una arada de un tractor de los mas grandes y no reducirla puedes reducir la velocidad de enrrollado de cable asta que con esa potencia pueda
Démarrage progressif
How to account for setting time start delta system...?
Probably current-based switch setup.
Пусковой ток - ОК.
Then consider you have two more even more powerful motors in a high end Tesla. And that starting them up is just a matter of extending your foot slightly.
that aint nothing, try a half megawatt Induced draft fan. You can FEEL one of them starting
This motor for what? Fan ?
electric bill go brrr
Cute.
Moving on
= what braking horsepower
about 215 BHP, or 218 HP
@@K2teknik. tank you
@@K2teknik. "Tank you". Be aware, he wants to kill you with a tank I guess
Tesla goes brrr
i dont want to pay electricity bills :D
75 квт ...
Ahoj, zřejmě nechápeš vztahy mezi U, I, P, atp. Výkon motoru je cca. 83,1kVA !!! Pokud je U opravdu rovno 400V
Yes. Nominal power is 160 kW but because there is no work load, motor takes only 120 amps at the beginning (after motor is started). sqrt(3) x 400 V x120 A = 83,1 kVA.
startovací proud je vždy několikanásobně vyšší než provozní hlavně záleží na zátěži a zde evidentně roztáčí něco hodně těžkého. V práci máme například 1050kW motory na 6kV a ty mají jmenovitý proud 145A ale při rozběhu berou 400A (roztáčí těžkou vrtuli ventilátoru, viz. můj kanál)
@@StakrCZ Hmm, jaká je spojitost s tímhle ? Nikdo se tady nemluvil o startovacím proudu.
@@vencavales391 pardon VA/W nějak mi to ulítlo to se po pivkách stává 🤣
This motor 16kw not 160kw
It was pulling 100 amps @ 400V once it got running... That's 40kW there.
Motor control is to confusing
Чё-то он маловат для 160кВт
Use a vfd
Да он максимум от 6 кВт до 15, какие 160? Сказочник.
Ну, если верить амперметру, потребляемая примерно столько и есть.
@@dmitriykolesnik4462 Вольтметр ещё должен быть чтобы я верил. Тогда и мощность реальная. А сетевое напряжение это не показатель.
400 ампер пусковой ток , потом 120 на амперметре после разгона , киловатт на 60 максимум этот двигатель .
160kw = 140Amps hahahaha
400a*400v=160kw 😳
@@inarinukka7729 3 Phases with 230 Volt each Are 400 Volt.
@@oOBassKillOo A*U*cosф*√3=S(P)
@@oOBassKillOo 3 phase 400v between phases. 230V it´s between phase and earth (neutral)
Normal voltage here it Europe.
If you read the description, you will see that it draws 533A per phase at start, 1600A in total, so it draws 640kW!
Nothing to do with “400V” It draws 400Amp at start, voltage will be way lower
How do you know? 400V AC three phase is common in various countries, even in home kitchens
It draws 400A, 133A per Phase when its running (400V), thats 160kW, like the Video says. If you would read the description, it draws about 533 Amps per Phase at start (400V, too)! Thats 1600A and 640 kW. I dont know how you get the idea that a 400V motor would run at a lower voltage, you always run a motor at a constant voltage and change its power by regulating the amps.
Three Phase AC always runs at 400V, thats constant and standart here in europe.
@@DanielLamando not in Brazil. And for real, if 400v were mains, ah.. that would be a mess!
@@gabrielv.4358 sure you have 110/220V at home just like the USA, but if you visit a factory in Brazil you will see that they have 400V power for all their big motors.
In Europe we just run the same voltage both at home and in factories: 240/400V. 240V is for all regular wall sockets, 400V for our water heaters, well pumps etc.