I think with the stock suspension and without the front and rear stiff bars you installed the car would be acceptable comort wise. Mine is fully stock and don’t plan to lower it for that same reason. To me the main thing that makes it non practical as an everyday car is fuel consumption as you mentioned. But I didn’t buy mine as a working tool anyway so I don’t care if it’s thirsty!
Thanks for this appreciation of such a cool car. I've had mine for about two and a half years though have no access to the Nurburgring living in Dublin, Ireland. Love your work dude.
You’ve certainly given the little thing a workout over the past two years! Kudos for your honesty, and for putting in some absolutely stellar BTG times.
Was waiting to see your feedback on the car. I got mine similar time as yours and been watching all your fascinating Ring videos. I'd say for pushing the car that hard on such a track it holds up amazingly well! Consumption related I can easily get 8-8.5lt/100km driving to/from track in the Autobahn between 120-160km/h. Never seen below 25lt during track time but I still think it's consumption is very good if you want a daily with such capabilities. Road noise is affected clearly by removing the seats but overall can't expect diferent if aiming for lightness. I've run Cup2 and R888 and they are super noisy compared to PS4S. Advice for the winter blues: snow drift! Based in Bavaria, I've been doing Salzburgring and Hockenheim during summer and Lungau,AT during winter, never had such all year round fun with a car! You will really appreciate it in snow/irrigated drift events as well! Keep enjoying your cars and driving them as they should be!
Hi Niko, Regarding driving on the snow, do you happen to know any other circuits/places you can drive on the snow around Germany? I tried to search, but maybe I didn't google it right. I know the season is over, but it would be good to know for next year.
I guess MPG depends what you are used to. My GR is far more economical than my Focus RS or Subaru, feels like it hardly ever needs refuelling compared to them. Once you strip a car out it becomes horrible to drive on roads, perhaps better if you left the carpets and panels in and just removed the seats for track use.
MPG is quite poor. Yeah I don't have a Focus RS or Subaru as base of comparison but does much worst than my Audi that uses a 2 liter turbo petrol with 252hp and also has 4 wheel drive. Yeah removing interior sound dampening was not the smartest idea for daily usage 🙃
Interesting about the rear seats and road noise. I removed the rear seats in my GR Yaris, then the headlining, and just recently, all the mats, carpet, foam, and sound deadening. Now you can hear the stones on the chassis, the sound of the engine, and the turbo swooshing (artificial noise turned off). It's brilliant fully stripped out, and I use it daily.
I hope it does not get old for you quickly Eheh! Definitely for track driving it really enhances the experience. For daily use I would rather have it stock ✌️
Hi friend, nice to ear from you, now in a diferent format. I wish you all the very best, please keep the good work (and pace, also 😉) Best regards from Portugal
I own my black Yaris since 2022 may and still love it. Its all stock and i went twice to the Nürburgring for doing my first laps. Great Little Car… perhaps we meet at the ring…
Alright mate, enjoyed this update and I like your honesty about removing the rear seats. I think your GR has held up well considering all the laps it’s done and how you use it (as intended 😉) GR owner was selling some tyres cheap so I’ve just picked up some Cup 2 connects with the Michelin track connect system, so I’ll see how I get on with that. Look forward to seeing you on the Ring again.
Thank you ✌️. I use a fair bit, but I try to not be abusive - I let it cool down and warm up properly and I do higher than recommended maintenance. For example I have changed all the fluids 3 times already (gearbox, diffs, engine, clutch pack, brakes). I am not sure the videos give out real usage. Car must have done around 120-140laps so that is somewhere in between 2500-3000km of track. I really like Cup2s. I will try some A052s next season just to have a taste of something different. The connect part if you use it must be a god send. I am yet to find the right pressure for the Cup2s in the yaris. I either get too much wear on the shoulder, or an understeery car. If you bump into me come and have a chat! We can go for a few laps ✌️
Here in the states my friend bought a gr Corolla and he over heats the AWD system within in 3 laps on the stock p4s when he went to maxis rc1 and 265s it made it worse. He’s done the Cusco rear diff cover and wrapped the exhaust. I think it’s the clutch pack that over heats which is a sealed unit. Oh and he was over heating it in the winter which I’ll admit isn’t as cold as Germany but still 40f isn’t warm. I’m not sure the over heating can be fixed only alleviated. I’m on a list for a circuit but it really has me thinking if I should get one. I don’t mind fixing something in the aftermarket but I don’t see anything for the Yaris in the aftermarket besides ducting,diff cover and exhaust wrapping ands it’s been what two years since it’s been out? I guess I’m just thinking out loud. 😂
I use mine as a daily. Road noise i can live with but then i still have my back seats:} Its the engine and gearbox that override any negatives for me. well apart from mpg lol
Removing the rear stuff was not the wisest ahah. The box and engine are great, but I would also a bit too much for a daily. In the sense that it is not a smooth combo. Below 2000rpm the engine has no power at all. Worst than the MPG is maybe the range... I hate having to go to the gas station every ~300km.
@@GreatMotors Totally agree with the power band and trips to the petrol station. It would make a fantastic second car but to run two cars is beyond me atm. 😊
good stuff 👍also like this format of video... just the sound/wind/background maybe something to improve. Ever consider to add some (other) mild mods to the car? E.g. other intake, IC, GPF delete, etc... and by that giving some insights about lap time impacts. Just suggestions 🙂Take care and keep it coming! Cheers
Thank you! Wind was annoying but I only noticed after the fact. I tried to remove it as much as possible. I also tried to do a voice over but it felt really odd. I am a bit cautious to not do too much that would affect my warranty or driving the car "normally". I have thought about buying an eventuri intake but I am not sure it's worth the €, IC will be something that I change once the current one is in need of replacement (I don't think it will last too long since it's really exposed to rocks etc), GPF delete is out of the question since there are a significant amount of police controls in Germany and even more on the Nurburgring (here you would get your car towed if the police suspects of manipulation of the environmental mechanisms), I thought about getting a HJS downpipe but again warranty.... Thanks for commenting ✌️
I really enjoy watching your skills on the track. Be great to meet you one day and learn how you handle this car. Curious to know if you use camber bolts and whether you have had any issues with the torque mount rubber? Cheers
I see some people talking about the torque mount - maybe it became an internet sensation. I need to dive deeper into the subject, until now I am not really able to say something is wrong. If you ever como to the Nürburgring send me a message. I love meeting people and sharing laps / track time.
Thanks for your videos. Do you know what max temp the rear differential is? Did you feel much of a difference with the strut braces? Ps I got 8.4l/100km on 100 octane, motorway running.
When I bought I planned for 4years. Yeah I am not the usual RUclipsr "here is my new thing", "there goes my new thing". Eheh! This winter having to drive it everyday killed a bit for me, albeit it might have been my fault for some of the mods... I just bought a new daily, and the GR Yaris will be retired to just track work. Let's see how's the spark at the end of the season ✌️
Nice video. I was just about to buy a Gr Yaris, but at the end went for a i30N DCT thinking it would be more practical for the family… well the fuel consumption is crazy AF 😮. Going slow on highway (110-130km/) you get 9-10 L/100km In city traffic it’s almost 19L/100km TERRIBLE 😢
Hi! Thanks for the video. I've been watching you for a long time too. Which front brake rotors did you install to replace the factory ones? Have you tried the EBC RP-1/RP-X brake pads?
I have installed Carbon Pad brake rotors to replace the OEM rotors. I read some online reviews that were less than good about EBC so I was never too curious to try them out. I use ME22 Endless pads since I ran down 3 OEM sets in around 40 laps and I have been happy ever since. Both pad and rotor wear looked normal and acceptable.
@@andreiagafonov5813 I got them from www.at-rs.de. But there are multiple stores offering it. I have no association with them at all. Stores like 55parts.de and other have them listed as well.
Time flies... Nice to hear the car manages to keep up with your driving on track for 2 years :) How come you didn't do front polybushes, Whiteline for example? How's your torque mount (lower gearbox)? Mine was messed up (broken rubber) after few kkm.
Time has really gone by in an instant in this last few years. I have changed all the fluids (brakes, gearbox, diffs, engine oil) 3 times now. Car feels good, the first "major" cost part that I had to replace were the front rotors. I have the KW CS that already brings some solid bushings, but I haven't changed anything else. I don't know about the one of the gearbox, I asked my dealership to check when the car was there for maintenance in December. I am just not sure you can spot it with a visual inspection without disassemble. I do have a vibration when I let go of the throttle in 6th gear at 2500-3000rpm and let the car cost. How did you spot yours was broken ?
@@GreatMotors Already after few weeks of having the car, I noticed also on letting off the throttle there was a "unwanted" movement in front. Felt it moving on gear shifts even while driving slowly as well. Couldn't make a smooth downshift, even with IMT. You have to remove the undertray, remove 3 bolts holding the mount and pull it out to see if it is broken, 10 min job. I think every GRY has the issue...
@@markos8400 I will have it check! Thank you! I don't see any movement on my gear knob, neither I feel anything shifting underneath. Changing gears isn't a problem besides the "usual" 2nd to 3rd shift under power that will grind "almost every time".
@@GreatMotors It feels more like the whole car does a "hiccup", like a learner driving manual and releasing clutch too soon lol. Also didn't feel anything on gear shifter / knob. If you find it broken, you can get cheap poly inserts rather than aftermarket mount. I never had 2->3 grinding, but it could also be related to same problem.
Mine is 2 years as well. 8,7 liters per 100km average with 4 laps Nordschleife, and one ADAC "trackday". You need to work on your day to day driving 😉 I rarely am on the autobahn though.
I don't drive very long stretches. If I go really smooth yeah I can get 8.X L but I still find that quite high given that it's a 1.6L turbo petrol not weighing very much. My A4 is a manual, heavier, 4 wheel drive, 2.0 252hp turbo petrol and returns better mileage. Ofc it comes always down to how you drive. On the Nurburgring I do 5 laps per fuel tank. The math comes at around 40l/100km.
In summer I could go on 5,8 l/100km stints, driving like a granpa. Longer trips with slow autobahn I get under 7 pretty easy. For winter, it's more of course. Send you a msg on insta
One question, since you have removed the rear interior, do you have access to the outer metal skin of the quarter panel? I ask because I have a dent on the rear quarter panel and need to do the dent removal process from the inside.
Thanks for your insights, how much camber do you have front and back? I've recognized that -2.8 f, and -1.8 r work pretty well in sim racing (can't afford a real one yet 🥲).
I have -3.2° front and -2.5° in the back. I don't think in the sim this will play much of a difference. Is all about how the suspension is modeled. Basically for me on track I need to maximize tire wear and temperature.
Sorry for the sound on the second part. The wind picked up... Let me know what you think about me rambling.... ✌
Easy fix!
Get in the car next time!
Please keep is updated on how the wrapping of the exhaust affects with the diff overheating! Love your videos.
I will! I can't wait to get back on track and try it out!
I think with the stock suspension and without the front and rear stiff bars you installed the car would be acceptable comort wise. Mine is fully stock and don’t plan to lower it for that same reason. To me the main thing that makes it non practical as an everyday car is fuel consumption as you mentioned. But I didn’t buy mine as a working tool anyway so I don’t care if it’s thirsty!
Thanks for this appreciation of such a cool car. I've had mine for about two and a half years though have no access to the Nurburgring living in Dublin, Ireland. Love your work dude.
You’ve certainly given the little thing a workout over the past two years! Kudos for your honesty, and for putting in some absolutely stellar BTG times.
Thank you ✌️. I am seriously excited about next track season.
@@GreatMotors Maybe see you on the ‘ring when I’m there with mine! Look out for a white one on Luxembourg plates 😁
Was waiting to see your feedback on the car. I got mine similar time as yours and been watching all your fascinating Ring videos. I'd say for pushing the car that hard on such a track it holds up amazingly well! Consumption related I can easily get 8-8.5lt/100km driving to/from track in the Autobahn between 120-160km/h. Never seen below 25lt during track time but I still think it's consumption is very good if you want a daily with such capabilities. Road noise is affected clearly by removing the seats but overall can't expect diferent if aiming for lightness. I've run Cup2 and R888 and they are super noisy compared to PS4S. Advice for the winter blues: snow drift! Based in Bavaria, I've been doing Salzburgring and Hockenheim during summer and Lungau,AT during winter, never had such all year round fun with a car! You will really appreciate it in snow/irrigated drift events as well! Keep enjoying your cars and driving them as they should be!
Hi Niko,
Regarding driving on the snow, do you happen to know any other circuits/places you can drive on the snow around Germany? I tried to search, but maybe I didn't google it right. I know the season is over, but it would be good to know for next year.
I guess MPG depends what you are used to. My GR is far more economical than my Focus RS or Subaru, feels like it hardly ever needs refuelling compared to them.
Once you strip a car out it becomes horrible to drive on roads, perhaps better if you left the carpets and panels in and just removed the seats for track use.
MPG is quite poor. Yeah I don't have a Focus RS or Subaru as base of comparison but does much worst than my Audi that uses a 2 liter turbo petrol with 252hp and also has 4 wheel drive.
Yeah removing interior sound dampening was not the smartest idea for daily usage 🙃
Interesting about the rear seats and road noise. I removed the rear seats in my GR Yaris, then the headlining, and just recently, all the mats, carpet, foam, and sound deadening. Now you can hear the stones on the chassis, the sound of the engine, and the turbo swooshing (artificial noise turned off). It's brilliant fully stripped out, and I use it daily.
I hope it does not get old for you quickly Eheh! Definitely for track driving it really enhances the experience. For daily use I would rather have it stock ✌️
@@GreatMotors I'm prepared; my glovebox is full of disposable earplugs for any long journeys. 😂
@@tracklover180 I see that great minds think alike. I do the same 😂
Hi friend, nice to ear from you, now in a diferent format.
I wish you all the very best, please keep the good work (and pace, also 😉)
Best regards from Portugal
Great feed back mate enjoyed that keep it up, have fun this summer back at the ring. Um abraço!
Thank you ✌️
I own my black Yaris since 2022 may and still love it. Its all stock and i went twice to the Nürburgring for doing my first laps. Great Little Car… perhaps we meet at the ring…
See you around 😁!
You’ve been driving it for two years, I have been waiting for mine for two years 😢
😞 feel sorry for that! Used prices are also not that inviting to get into the car
@@GreatMotors they are now.
@@uv77mc85how many years did you wait for the comment ❤😂?
@@GreatMotors haha
Alright mate, enjoyed this update and I like your honesty about removing the rear seats. I think your GR has held up well considering all the laps it’s done and how you use it (as intended 😉)
GR owner was selling some tyres cheap so I’ve just picked up some Cup 2 connects with the Michelin track connect system, so I’ll see how I get on with that. Look forward to seeing you on the Ring again.
Thank you ✌️. I use a fair bit, but I try to not be abusive - I let it cool down and warm up properly and I do higher than recommended maintenance. For example I have changed all the fluids 3 times already (gearbox, diffs, engine, clutch pack, brakes). I am not sure the videos give out real usage. Car must have done around 120-140laps so that is somewhere in between 2500-3000km of track.
I really like Cup2s. I will try some A052s next season just to have a taste of something different. The connect part if you use it must be a god send. I am yet to find the right pressure for the Cup2s in the yaris. I either get too much wear on the shoulder, or an understeery car.
If you bump into me come and have a chat! We can go for a few laps ✌️
My gr yaris goes like a big v6 and goes through fuel like a v8 ❤😂😮😢
Here in the states my friend bought a gr Corolla and he over heats the AWD system within in 3 laps on the stock p4s when he went to maxis rc1 and 265s it made it worse. He’s done the Cusco rear diff cover and wrapped the exhaust. I think it’s the clutch pack that over heats which is a sealed unit. Oh and he was over heating it in the winter which I’ll admit isn’t as cold as Germany but still 40f isn’t warm. I’m not sure the over heating can be fixed only alleviated. I’m on a list for a circuit but it really has me thinking if I should get one. I don’t mind fixing something in the aftermarket but I don’t see anything for the Yaris in the aftermarket besides ducting,diff cover and exhaust wrapping ands it’s been what two years since it’s been out? I guess I’m just thinking out loud. 😂
there is a HEL diff cooler for GR Yaris.
I use mine as a daily. Road noise i can live with but then i still have my back seats:} Its the engine and gearbox that override any negatives for me. well apart from mpg lol
Removing the rear stuff was not the wisest ahah. The box and engine are great, but I would also a bit too much for a daily. In the sense that it is not a smooth combo. Below 2000rpm the engine has no power at all. Worst than the MPG is maybe the range... I hate having to go to the gas station every ~300km.
@@GreatMotors Totally agree with the power band and trips to the petrol station. It would make a fantastic second car but to run two cars is beyond me atm. 😊
@@dbank6107 my wife would really agree with you. I've a car problem 😞
good stuff 👍also like this format of video... just the sound/wind/background maybe something to improve. Ever consider to add some (other) mild mods to the car? E.g. other intake, IC, GPF delete, etc... and by that giving some insights about lap time impacts. Just suggestions 🙂Take care and keep it coming! Cheers
Thank you! Wind was annoying but I only noticed after the fact. I tried to remove it as much as possible. I also tried to do a voice over but it felt really odd.
I am a bit cautious to not do too much that would affect my warranty or driving the car "normally". I have thought about buying an eventuri intake but I am not sure it's worth the €, IC will be something that I change once the current one is in need of replacement (I don't think it will last too long since it's really exposed to rocks etc), GPF delete is out of the question since there are a significant amount of police controls in Germany and even more on the Nurburgring (here you would get your car towed if the police suspects of manipulation of the environmental mechanisms), I thought about getting a HJS downpipe but again warranty....
Thanks for commenting ✌️
I really enjoy watching your skills on the track. Be great to meet you one day and learn how you handle this car. Curious to know if you use camber bolts and whether you have had any issues with the torque mount rubber? Cheers
I see some people talking about the torque mount - maybe it became an internet sensation. I need to dive deeper into the subject, until now I am not really able to say something is wrong. If you ever como to the Nürburgring send me a message. I love meeting people and sharing laps / track time.
@@GreatMotors Cheers mate. Please keep up the great work. You are a joy to watch on the track.
It's missing a good exhaust and remapping! 😉
Abraço de Portugal
Thanks!
Would be curious what Camber and Toe are you racing with?
-3.2° front ; -2.5° rear; Toe out up front, toe in in the back.
Thanks for your videos. Do you know what max temp the rear differential is? Did you feel much of a difference with the strut braces?
Ps I got 8.4l/100km on 100 octane, motorway running.
that's clean driving then im running also 10l/100km 98 octane
Hello !
Thanks for your great video. Which KW suspension do you have? Is it KW V3 Inox line?
Freue mich auf die neue Saison ✌️ wir sehen uns 👋
Ich auch 😁!
Thumbs up for the honest review! What oil are you using for your GR and the track ? The brand and the viscosity ?
RAVENOL DFE SAE 0W-20; I used the EFS last season.
@@GreatMotors thanks 👍 I use the DFE since my purchase of the GRY. Good to know that it holds up so well on so many Nür. Laps,😮😁
Any ceramic coating or paint protection when you track the car?
No PPF. It would be 10% if the car value. Not worth it in my opinion. I will ceramic coat it myself for ease of maintenance once I have the time
@@GreatMotors no issue with paint chipping or small rock chips on the bumper after track days?
great video. great information. btw, how long do you plan to use this car?
When I bought I planned for 4years. Yeah I am not the usual RUclipsr "here is my new thing", "there goes my new thing". Eheh!
This winter having to drive it everyday killed a bit for me, albeit it might have been my fault for some of the mods...
I just bought a new daily, and the GR Yaris will be retired to just track work. Let's see how's the spark at the end of the season ✌️
Nice video. I was just about to buy a Gr Yaris, but at the end went for a i30N DCT thinking it would be more practical for the family… well the fuel consumption is crazy AF 😮. Going slow on highway (110-130km/) you get 9-10 L/100km
In city traffic it’s almost 19L/100km TERRIBLE 😢
Hi! Thanks for the video. I've been watching you for a long time too. Which front brake rotors did you install to replace the factory ones? Have you tried the EBC RP-1/RP-X brake pads?
I have installed Carbon Pad brake rotors to replace the OEM rotors. I read some online reviews that were less than good about EBC so I was never too curious to try them out. I use ME22 Endless pads since I ran down 3 OEM sets in around 40 laps and I have been happy ever since. Both pad and rotor wear looked normal and acceptable.
@@GreatMotors Thanks. Where did you got these brake rotors? i couldn't find them on google.
@@andreiagafonov5813 I got them from www.at-rs.de. But there are multiple stores offering it. I have no association with them at all. Stores like 55parts.de and other have them listed as well.
@@GreatMotors Thanks for sharing, I'll check
Time flies... Nice to hear the car manages to keep up with your driving on track for 2 years :) How come you didn't do front polybushes, Whiteline for example? How's your torque mount (lower gearbox)? Mine was messed up (broken rubber) after few kkm.
Time has really gone by in an instant in this last few years. I have changed all the fluids (brakes, gearbox, diffs, engine oil) 3 times now. Car feels good, the first "major" cost part that I had to replace were the front rotors. I have the KW CS that already brings some solid bushings, but I haven't changed anything else.
I don't know about the one of the gearbox, I asked my dealership to check when the car was there for maintenance in December. I am just not sure you can spot it with a visual inspection without disassemble. I do have a vibration when I let go of the throttle in 6th gear at 2500-3000rpm and let the car cost. How did you spot yours was broken ?
@@GreatMotors Already after few weeks of having the car, I noticed also on letting off the throttle there was a "unwanted" movement in front. Felt it moving on gear shifts even while driving slowly as well. Couldn't make a smooth downshift, even with IMT.
You have to remove the undertray, remove 3 bolts holding the mount and pull it out to see if it is broken, 10 min job. I think every GRY has the issue...
@@markos8400 I will have it check! Thank you! I don't see any movement on my gear knob, neither I feel anything shifting underneath. Changing gears isn't a problem besides the "usual" 2nd to 3rd shift under power that will grind "almost every time".
@@GreatMotors It feels more like the whole car does a "hiccup", like a learner driving manual and releasing clutch too soon lol. Also didn't feel anything on gear shifter / knob. If you find it broken, you can get cheap poly inserts rather than aftermarket mount. I never had 2->3 grinding, but it could also be related to same problem.
@@markos8400 this grinding I had since the car was new. It happens under wide open throttle on corner exit.
Mine is 2 years as well. 8,7 liters per 100km average with 4 laps Nordschleife, and one ADAC "trackday". You need to work on your day to day driving 😉 I rarely am on the autobahn though.
Your video reaffirmed me in having stock suspension for the daily. 😊 Love the car for daily use!
I don't drive very long stretches. If I go really smooth yeah I can get 8.X L but I still find that quite high given that it's a 1.6L turbo petrol not weighing very much. My A4 is a manual, heavier, 4 wheel drive, 2.0 252hp turbo petrol and returns better mileage. Ofc it comes always down to how you drive. On the Nurburgring I do 5 laps per fuel tank. The math comes at around 40l/100km.
✌️I would argue that the KW Clubsport set to the softest settings is more comfortable than the stock shocks and springs.
@@GreatMotors don't tell me that 🤣🤑🤑🤑
In summer I could go on 5,8 l/100km stints, driving like a granpa. Longer trips with slow autobahn I get under 7 pretty easy. For winter, it's more of course.
Send you a msg on insta
One question, since you have removed the rear interior, do you have access to the outer metal skin of the quarter panel? I ask because I have a dent on the rear quarter panel and need to do the dent removal process from the inside.
Yes you do. But you have to use one of those long tools to reach. Is not fully exposed from the inside, but you can reach there.
How much it costs?
£33k
Não tens muito jeito para falar para a camara mas pronto
Acontece. Nem todos recebemos o toque de Midas.
Thanks for your insights, how much camber do you have front and back? I've recognized that -2.8 f, and -1.8 r work pretty well in sim racing (can't afford a real one yet 🥲).
I have -3.2° front and -2.5° in the back. I don't think in the sim this will play much of a difference. Is all about how the suspension is modeled. Basically for me on track I need to maximize tire wear and temperature.
@@GreatMotors sounds about right 👍