I'll miss you guys, I'll be in Physical Therapy at 0800, sigh last session before I see the Doctor on Friday. I need to get back to regular exercise with my new knee joint.
Never drop the ball after your replacement. I've got friends that have now more mobility and lift more. Tomorrow is your first session on your own. Use your phone as reminder. All the best.
Geoff, I had my knee replaced after being shot and developing arthritis. And I should have had the procedure done sooner!! Tip: Until the scar tissue is "broken", the beginning of your P.T. is going to be the most painful, roll up a washcloth bite down on it and let the therapist go for it! I returned to work (LEO) after passing physical testing in exactly 30 days! I hope this helps and good luck!
Yes, HR, I believe the “claw” (which I believe is sometimes also called a “wing”) is designed to increase IWB “concealment,” by increasing “inward pressure” from the best to the body . . . I know that’s “as clear as mud,” but I hope it will suffice.
It is gimmicky. The idea is to artificially shape your waistline to conceal the grip/magazine of your pistol. The main problem is that people don't normally just have thicker right sided guts so you still stick out lol
@@hrfunk I agree. I don’t carry IWB very often. However, when I do I have found that simple, small, soft leather holsters with a single spring-steel clip are the most comfortable (for me - this isn’t a generality). Of course, they work well (again, for me) with small, light, thin sidearms, but not too well with “service sized” ones.
@@hrfunk I've seen videos where Jedlinski from Modern Samurai Project used velcro to attach a piece of a yoga block to the back of his aiwb holster and it seems to improve the comfort quite a bit for cheap. Maybe you can try that. Since people come in different sizes and you lost a lot of weight (Go Funk!) there are different sizes and angles of that claw thingy. The main idea is turn the grip towards the body that sticks out the most. It would make for interesting and quick videos to see different options of attachments that improve one's holster instead of creating a big pile of holsters instead.
Specifically, the claw is designed to push the grip of the pistol inward against your body, so that it will not tend (as it naturally would) to print against your concealment garment in AIWB carry. Different holster makers use somewhat similar versions of this to achieve the same effect.
I love crossbreed. In fact, my first ever holster was a crossbreed minituck IWB. I would carry it in the 4;30 position. With my Gen 1 Shield 9. Then I got a Shield Plus and was still able to carry it with the same holster. It has been the most comfortable holster I’ve ever owned. Recently I got a Steamlight tlr6 for it and I’ve stopped using my crossbreed. I also started carrying appendix but Crossbreed don’t make light specific holsters for it. So I had to find a different holster for it. Great video, Sr.
HR, Very appropriate subject for today. I got my Master's Cross Draw holster yesterday. I haven't tried it on yet, because I'm wearing sweat pants at the moment, but it look really well made, and fits my 1911 Commander perfectly. In reading the package, they are made by some company called JBP Trading Inc., and marketed as a Master's holster. This holster is very small as far as taking up room on the waist, and I'm sure it is going to be very comfortable when I get around to using it with a belt. The Reckoning holster is very interesting and seems to be almost infinitely adjustable. The people at Crossbreed have really done their homework. I am like you in that the Rogue does not look like it would be very comfortable. It's just way too big and has too many things that would poke you while you're wearing it. Might not be too bad as an OWB setup, but definitely not as an IWB. Cheers, Zeke
Thank you for this video. I own a crossbreed iwb holster for my hellcat osp with holosun 507k, threaded barrel and Tyrant CNC unicomp (I've seen your video about not modifying your gun and I want you to know I still respect you :D) but the point is its a lot of furniture and I have been able to easily (and I do mean easily) edc my gun because of the holster. The leather backing makes 12+ hours with a gun *ALMOST* comfortable. It's held retention well in the 14 months I've had mine, even with thick black gouge marks from repetitious practice all down the front of the leather face. If you ever wanted a random suggestion on which iwb holster to buy, you can get a lot worse than crossbreed. Your video here was obviously very germane to my interests and having just found your channel I wanted to share and say thanks. So Thanks :)
In my limited experience (2), adjustable tension is a good idea for any kydex holster. The molds just don’t seem to be as dialed in as a custom leather holster.
VERY good video for me, especially since I suspect I’ll acquire a Hellcat Pro (as soon as Springfield gets a law enforcement/military retailer in the Northern Virginia area), and obviously I want a dedicated holster for what I hope will become my new EDC. THANKS!
Your welcome Roy. As an FYI, I received an email recently from Springfield Armory announcing special pricing for current/retired military. You might want to check their website.
@@hrfunk THANKS! I received the same e-mail. The problem is there are NO “First-Line” Springfield retailers in Virginia. I suspect that means I’d have to buy the Hellcat Pro in Pennsylvania (to receive the discount), and then have the firearm shipped to a local FFL. Thant may well be what I’ll have to do, but I have a call into Springfield’s customer service to become more educated on how I should proceed.
I have one crossbreed holster and it doesn't do much for me. Good quality but I don't hybrid holsters. If you haven't already I would try Vedder holsters. They also make nice belts.
I really need to go to a store that has a huge selection of holsters/ones that allow light attachments on. I mean, technically for some I could probably get by with a basic Uncle Mikes/Black Hawk nylon holster.
Sorry for the tardy hr overslept I love crossbreeds the leather is think the kydex holds my gun even in gym shorts mines the reconing I think it's for the g2c but fits the G3 can be either iwb or owb I love mine never take it off
In the two Crossbreed holsters I have owned I have found them to be excessively abrasive to the finish of the pistols they were designed to fit. One is for a S&W Shield and the other is for a Gen 3 Glock 26. I understand Kydex is not the most finish friendly material for a handgun holster but in the case of the shell for my Glock, it received a good scuff mark on the top of the slide, between the front sight and ejection port, the very first time used. This model holster had no retention adjustment available so it was the shell design itself that caused the irreversible scuff mark.. After that I learned a solid lesson and have never again purchased another Kydex holster of any kind for my handguns. Although more costly, lined-leather has proven to be the holster material for me. Nice video. I hope the holsters work out for you.
Thank you, and I agree. Kydex is not the most finish friendly material ever conceived. I wouldn’t use it for anything with a fine finish that I wanted to preserve.
Awesome! I've been looking at getting an m18 and your 3rd configuration is exactly how i've been considering carrying it. I do plan on having a light mounted but I'm sure they offer an option for that as well. Thanks a lot!
My only complaint about Crossbreed Holsters is that the Rogue and the Reckoning holsters are not made for lasers or lights. I do have 2 of their SuperTuck holsters that I conceal carry everyday that do come configured for different light and laser configurations. The leather back makes both very comfortable to wear. I am very pleased with their products. I also have Aliengear and Werkz holsters and they are excellent also and all three brand will allow for lasers and lights. Thanks for your video's.
Hey HR, you should make another Hi Power video! My Hi Power videos have become extremely popular for some reason. Also I believe youtube is favoring shorter content these days. I *strongly* recommend watching a video by a channel called "Kliksphilip" called "2021 Klik Empire Analysis" where he goes into his channel analytics of his 3 channels (with 1M, 600K, and 200K subs each) and his theories as to why they're performing as such.
Good info HR! Like the fact that it is versatile! I have alot of holsters for my different "cordless hole punchers" and they all work pretty well for my different types of carry. I usually put alot of thought into purchasing a holster as to how I want to carry. Crossbreed seems to be a good choice. Side note: got my eye on a (new) Colt King Cobra 3" .357. Hogue Style rubber grips. Or a (new) Ruger GP 100 .357 3" with rubber grips around wood side panels. Any thoughts before dropping the
I like 3” wheelies. Either one should be a fine choice. I suppose it comes down to how much you want to spend. If it’s going to be an heirloom, I would probably opt for the Colt. On the other hand, if it’s going to be an EDC and see lots of use and wear, then the Ruger would work well and cost less.
HR I have and use daily the Crossbread Supertuck IWB that I carry my G-27 in and I have not had any issues wearing it for hours on end while walking around or driving cross country. I carry it at the 3 O'clock position. I also have one for my Ruger EC9 for when I travel to places that have banned "high capacity" mags. In addition I bought 2 of their "purse" models which have velcro type patches on the back that I use in my riding vest so I can carry while riding my motorcycle. I think if you try one of their leather backed IWB holster you would like it better than the plastic one.
@@hrfunk It sure would make for a great video and being used to it and usually not liking it anymore makes your opinion more valuable if the leather backing makes enough of a change to try it in certain circumstances.
I think you should have shown the Reckoning in all the configs you did for the rogue. I love my Reckoning holster. I use the IWB. You can tighten the Reckoning just as well!
I had to get a pair of pants with a 34" waist band vs the 32" I wear normally in order to get IWB to work. Still my least favorite style of carry. I'm in and out of vehicles, skid steer, bending, on the log splitter sitting. It's just not ideal for me. OWB, shoulder, and chest carry is my favorite.
I can't stand bare inside the waistband carry, it rubs my skin wrong, the stippling is like sandpaper on my Glock 17, don't like it... But I still carry inside the waistband I simply wear an under shirt, I prefer the under armour ones and I just wear the tight-fitting flexible thin under shirts just to keep the gun off my skin, And I do that currently with an all Kydex holster and it's comfortable for me, And in the winter I switch to a thermal under shirt. As for the claw its very nice for iwb, It pushes the grip of the gun closer to your body and keeps it tight against you rather than sticking out to the side proud of your body and making a bit lump under your shirt.
This was an excellent review. I'm considering purchasing my first owb holster. I am leaning more toward some type of paddle holster but can't decide if I need one with retention like a level 2 thumb release or something or if a regular kydex friction retention owb like the one reviewed would be sufficient. It would generally be under a cover garment since I don't open carry, but I just can't decide. Any concern with no additional retention aid on an owb cc rig?Any advice is greatly appreciated.
Since it's going to be carried concealed, retention devices are less important than if you were going to open carry. Chances are that no one is going to attempt to disarm you if they don't know you were carrying a firearm. I would not worry too much about a retention device. For open carry, that is another matter entirely.
@@hrfunk I even heard of people that had to quit carrying iwb cause they had issues with their hip cause they wore it on top not a bit in front or back. Some won't change anything even if it's chafing.
One thing I notice with holsters behind my hip is that (depending upon the handgun I’m carrying), it puts pressure against my side/lower back when I’m sitting in a chair or car seat. If I sit long enough it can become quite uncomfortable. I also wonder if that could eventually lead to back problems.
@@hrfunk it could at least lead to tightness in muscles that we cringe to make up for the uncomfortable position. Sort of like tight shoulders from sitting over a desk for long periods.
Interesting holsters, Chief. I was about to comment on how you initially had the Rogue in the Appendix IWB carry, because I know how much you don’t like that method, but I do like how you configured it to cross draw. That reminds me, I may be doing a review on this “war belt” I’m currently running at work, so yeah.
@@SHADOWACTUAL I’ll check it out shortly. Also, just FYI I am doing a video chat this evening. I have one slot still open if you’re interested. If so send me an email at HRfunk@ zoominternet.net ,and I’ll send you a link.
There isn't a more classy, mature reviewer on the web than HR. Always informative and concise, well done sir!
Thank you!
I'll miss you guys, I'll be in Physical Therapy at 0800, sigh last session before I see the Doctor on Friday. I need to get back to regular exercise with my new knee joint.
I hope all goes well Geoff!
Glad to hear it’s going well, Geoff.
Never drop the ball after your replacement. I've got friends that have now more mobility and lift more. Tomorrow is your first session on your own. Use your phone as reminder. All the best.
Geoff, I had my knee replaced after being shot and developing arthritis. And I should have had the procedure done sooner!!
Tip: Until the scar tissue is "broken", the beginning of your P.T. is going to be the most painful, roll up a washcloth bite down on it and let the therapist go for it!
I returned to work (LEO) after passing physical testing in exactly 30 days!
I hope this helps and good luck!
@@Stoney_AKA_James Thank you! I'm 72 and muscle soreness is the big problem. That and standing / walking with good posture.
Finally a video about a holster with an attached mag pouch (produced by someone who's not an idiot)
The quality of your videos give me that old school education/ infomercial that was played on TV.
Old school American.
Thank you! I try to split the difference between conveying information and providing entertainment.
Yes, HR, I believe the “claw” (which I believe is sometimes also called a “wing”) is designed to increase IWB “concealment,” by increasing “inward pressure” from the best to the body . . . I know that’s “as clear as mud,” but I hope it will suffice.
I get what you’re saying. It strikes me as somewhat “gimmicky.”
It is gimmicky. The idea is to artificially shape your waistline to conceal the grip/magazine of your pistol. The main problem is that people don't normally just have thicker right sided guts so you still stick out lol
@@hrfunk
I agree. I don’t carry IWB very often. However, when I do I have found that simple, small, soft leather holsters with a single spring-steel clip are the most comfortable (for me - this isn’t a generality). Of course, they work well (again, for me) with small, light, thin sidearms, but not too well with “service sized” ones.
@@hrfunk
I've seen videos where Jedlinski from Modern Samurai Project used velcro to attach a piece of a yoga block to the back of his aiwb holster and it seems to improve the comfort quite a bit for cheap. Maybe you can try that. Since people come in different sizes and you lost a lot of weight (Go Funk!) there are different sizes and angles of that claw thingy. The main idea is turn the grip towards the body that sticks out the most. It would make for interesting and quick videos to see different options of attachments that improve one's holster instead of creating a big pile of holsters instead.
Specifically, the claw is designed to push the grip of the pistol inward against your body, so that it will not tend (as it naturally would) to print against your concealment garment in AIWB carry. Different holster makers use somewhat similar versions of this to achieve the same effect.
I love crossbreed. In fact, my first ever holster was a crossbreed minituck IWB. I would carry it in the 4;30 position. With my Gen 1 Shield 9. Then I got a Shield Plus and was still able to carry it with the same holster. It has been the most comfortable holster I’ve ever owned. Recently I got a Steamlight tlr6 for it and I’ve stopped using my crossbreed. I also started carrying appendix but Crossbreed don’t make light specific holsters for it. So I had to find a different holster for it. Great video, Sr.
Thanks Rafael!
@@hrfunk I have to take that back, I just went on their website and they now make light bearing holsters. Gonna have to try one now.
Nice looking holsters and I like the configuration options. Thanks for the information.
You’re welcome Keith. Thanks for watching!
Very cool adaptable holster . Nice to see something you can adjust as go through different situations .
HR,
Very appropriate subject for today. I got my Master's Cross Draw holster yesterday. I haven't tried it on yet, because I'm wearing sweat pants at the moment, but it look really well made, and fits my 1911 Commander perfectly. In reading the package, they are made by some company called JBP Trading Inc., and marketed as a Master's holster. This holster is very small as far as taking up room on the waist, and I'm sure it is going to be very comfortable when I get around to using it with a belt. The Reckoning holster is very interesting and seems to be almost infinitely adjustable. The people at Crossbreed have really done their homework. I am like you in that the Rogue does not look like it would be very comfortable. It's just way too big and has too many things that would poke you while you're wearing it. Might not be too bad as an OWB setup, but definitely not as an IWB.
Cheers,
Zeke
Thanks Zeke. I suppose if I’d gotten the Rogue for something small like the Hellcat, it would have probably been less uncomfortable as an IWB.
Thank you for this video. I own a crossbreed iwb holster for my hellcat osp with holosun 507k, threaded barrel and Tyrant CNC unicomp (I've seen your video about not modifying your gun and I want you to know I still respect you :D) but the point is its a lot of furniture and I have been able to easily (and I do mean easily) edc my gun because of the holster. The leather backing makes 12+ hours with a gun *ALMOST* comfortable. It's held retention well in the 14 months I've had mine, even with thick black gouge marks from repetitious practice all down the front of the leather face. If you ever wanted a random suggestion on which iwb holster to buy, you can get a lot worse than crossbreed. Your video here was obviously very germane to my interests and having just found your channel I wanted to share and say thanks. So Thanks :)
You are so welcome. I’m glad you liked it. Thanks for watching!
In my limited experience (2), adjustable tension is a good idea for any kydex holster. The molds just don’t seem to be as dialed in as a custom leather holster.
VERY good video for me, especially since I suspect I’ll acquire a Hellcat Pro (as soon as Springfield gets a law enforcement/military retailer in the Northern Virginia area), and obviously I want a dedicated holster for what I hope will become my new EDC. THANKS!
Your welcome Roy. As an FYI, I received an email recently from Springfield Armory announcing special pricing for current/retired military. You might want to check their website.
@@hrfunk
THANKS! I received the same e-mail. The problem is there are NO “First-Line” Springfield retailers in Virginia. I suspect that means I’d have to buy the Hellcat Pro in Pennsylvania (to receive the discount), and then have the firearm shipped to a local FFL. Thant may well be what I’ll have to do, but I have a call into Springfield’s customer service to become more educated on how I should proceed.
Good information. I never paid much attention to Crossbreed holsters, I will take a look at their OWB options.
I all ready own the first holster and its a good one , you can catch their products on sale and make it a better deal for sure
IMHO, the secret sauce to CrossBreed Holsters is the Kydex Front and the Large surface area Leather Back against yer body...
I have one crossbreed holster and it doesn't do much for me. Good quality but I don't hybrid holsters. If you haven't already I would try Vedder holsters. They also make nice belts.
Thanks, maybe I will. Still, I was just wearing the Reckoning again last night, and I still quite like it.
"For Christmas I want a Crossbreed Rogue appendix carry IWB holster with a detachable magazine carrier."
"You'll shoot your third eye out, kid."
I really need to go to a store that has a huge selection of holsters/ones that allow light attachments on.
I mean, technically for some I could probably get by with a basic Uncle Mikes/Black Hawk nylon holster.
Thanks for information. It was very useful
My pleasure.
Sorry for the tardy hr overslept I love crossbreeds the leather is think the kydex holds my gun even in gym shorts mines the reconing I think it's for the g2c but fits the G3 can be either iwb or owb I love mine never take it off
Great to know, as I have the G2C. Especially like IWB/OWB in one holster.
I just bought the reconing holster. I love the fact that it can be IWB AND OWB.
In the two Crossbreed holsters I have owned I have found them to be excessively abrasive to the finish of the pistols they were designed to fit. One is for a S&W Shield and the other is for a Gen 3 Glock 26. I understand Kydex is not the most finish friendly material for a handgun holster but in the case of the shell for my Glock, it received a good scuff mark on the top of the slide, between the front sight and ejection port, the very first time used. This model holster had no retention adjustment available so it was the shell design itself that caused the irreversible scuff mark..
After that I learned a solid lesson and have never again purchased another Kydex holster of any kind for my handguns. Although more costly, lined-leather has proven to be the holster material for me.
Nice video. I hope the holsters work out for you.
Thank you, and I agree. Kydex is not the most finish friendly material ever conceived. I wouldn’t use it for anything with a fine finish that I wanted to preserve.
Awesome! I've been looking at getting an m18 and your 3rd configuration is exactly how i've been considering carrying it. I do plan on having a light mounted but I'm sure they offer an option for that as well. Thanks a lot!
Just make sure you get the OWB clips.
Looks like the original Alien Gear holsters I wore a few years ago.
My only complaint about Crossbreed Holsters is that the Rogue and the Reckoning holsters are not made for lasers or lights. I do have 2 of their SuperTuck holsters that I conceal carry everyday that do come configured for different light and laser configurations. The leather back makes both very comfortable to wear. I am very pleased with their products. I also have Aliengear and Werkz holsters and they are excellent also and all three brand will allow for lasers and lights. Thanks for your video's.
You’re welcome Robert. Thanks for watching!
Hey HR, you should make another Hi Power video! My Hi Power videos have become extremely popular for some reason. Also I believe youtube is favoring shorter content these days. I *strongly* recommend watching a video by a channel called "Kliksphilip" called "2021 Klik Empire Analysis" where he goes into his channel analytics of his 3 channels (with 1M, 600K, and 200K subs each) and his theories as to why they're performing as such.
I wish I could find one of the new Hi Powers out there to review!
Good info HR! Like the fact that it is versatile! I have alot of holsters for my different "cordless hole punchers" and they all work pretty well for my different types of carry. I usually put alot of thought into purchasing a holster as to how I want to carry. Crossbreed seems to be a good choice. Side note: got my eye on a (new) Colt King Cobra 3" .357. Hogue Style rubber grips. Or a (new) Ruger GP 100 .357 3" with rubber grips around wood side panels. Any thoughts before dropping the
Benjamin's.
I like 3” wheelies. Either one should be a fine choice. I suppose it comes down to how much you want to spend. If it’s going to be an heirloom, I would probably opt for the Colt. On the other hand, if it’s going to be an EDC and see lots of use and wear, then the Ruger would work well and cost less.
HR I have and use daily the Crossbread Supertuck IWB that I carry my G-27 in and I have not had any issues wearing it for hours on end while walking around or driving cross country. I carry it at the 3 O'clock position. I also have one for my Ruger EC9 for when I travel to places that have banned "high capacity" mags. In addition I bought 2 of their "purse" models which have velcro type patches on the back that I use in my riding vest so I can carry while riding my motorcycle. I think if you try one of their leather backed IWB holster you would like it better than the plastic one.
Thanks. Maybe I’ll try one. I just really don’t care for IWB any more. Years ago, I used it a lot.
@@hrfunk
It sure would make for a great video and being used to it and usually not liking it anymore makes your opinion more valuable if the leather backing makes enough of a change to try it in certain circumstances.
@@hrfunk If we were closer I would send you one of mine to give it a try. My pistols print to much to carry OWB due to me being skinny. 🙂
Thanks all the same Tom!
Thank you for the great demo
You’re welcome Bob!
Good holster review H.R.
Thanks!
I think you should have shown the Reckoning in all the configs you did for the rogue. I love my Reckoning holster. I use the IWB. You can tighten the Reckoning just as well!
The older I get, the less I am a fan of IWB. I'm glad it works for you.
I had to get a pair of pants with a 34" waist band vs the 32" I wear normally in order to get IWB to work.
Still my least favorite style of carry.
I'm in and out of vehicles, skid steer, bending, on the log splitter sitting.
It's just not ideal for me.
OWB, shoulder, and chest carry is my favorite.
Me too!
Thanks, that was helpful.
You’re welcome Frank!
I can't stand bare inside the waistband carry, it rubs my skin wrong, the stippling is like sandpaper on my Glock 17, don't like it... But I still carry inside the waistband I simply wear an under shirt, I prefer the under armour ones and I just wear the tight-fitting flexible thin under shirts just to keep the gun off my skin, And I do that currently with an all Kydex holster and it's comfortable for me, And in the winter I switch to a thermal under shirt.
As for the claw its very nice for iwb, It pushes the grip of the gun closer to your body and keeps it tight against you rather than sticking out to the side proud of your body and making a bit lump under your shirt.
This was an excellent review. I'm considering purchasing my first owb holster. I am leaning more toward some type of paddle holster but can't decide if I need one with retention like a level 2 thumb release or something or if a regular kydex friction retention owb like the one reviewed would be sufficient. It would generally be under a cover garment since I don't open carry, but I just can't decide. Any concern with no additional retention aid on an owb cc rig?Any advice is greatly appreciated.
Since it's going to be carried concealed, retention devices are less important than if you were going to open carry. Chances are that no one is going to attempt to disarm you if they don't know you were carrying a firearm. I would not worry too much about a retention device. For open carry, that is another matter entirely.
Thanks HR, I really want to start OWB,(still concealed) I'm tired of the uncomfortable IWB that that can make carrying a PAIN.
I understand completely. Back in my 20’s I carried IWB a lot, but I eventually got to the point where I really don’t like it.
@@hrfunk
I even heard of people that had to quit carrying iwb cause they had issues with their hip cause they wore it on top not a bit in front or back. Some won't change anything even if it's chafing.
One thing I notice with holsters behind my hip is that (depending upon the handgun I’m carrying), it puts pressure against my side/lower back when I’m sitting in a chair or car seat. If I sit long enough it can become quite uncomfortable. I also wonder if that could eventually lead to back problems.
@@hrfunk it could at least lead to tightness in muscles that we cringe to make up for the uncomfortable position. Sort of like tight shoulders from sitting over a desk for long periods.
Interesting holsters, Chief.
I was about to comment on how you initially had the Rogue in the Appendix IWB carry, because I know how much you don’t like that method, but I do like how you configured it to cross draw.
That reminds me, I may be doing a review on this “war belt” I’m currently running at work, so yeah.
Be sure to let me know if you make a video.
@@hrfunk aye, sir, you’ll be the first to know.
@@hrfunk Chief, it’s done. Uploaded a minute ago.
@@SHADOWACTUAL I’ll check it out shortly. Also, just FYI I am doing a video chat this evening. I have one slot still open if you’re interested. If so send me an email at HRfunk@ zoominternet.net ,and I’ll send you a link.
@@hrfunk Roger that, sir. I unfortunately won’t be able to make that- family stuff.
Nice review 👍.
Thank you!
8:49 you for real dont know what the claw is for or how it works?
Oddly, I don’t think I need to.
A lot to do about, well,,,, a lot. Not worth jacking around, and jacking around with configurations, that are uncomfortable.
I suspect there are folks out there who would rather reconfigure one holster that have a box full of different holsters.
@@hrfunk How did you know I had a tub full of holsters ? :-) Wonder how many people do. Always searching for that perfect fit.
@@algoneby I admit I have a tub full of holsters I rarely use. I finally chose four holsters I use often.