This Honda Passport is surprisngly good. Would love to see a head to head comparison of the Honda Passport, Acura RDX, Honda CR-V, Toyota Rav4, and Lexus NX.
That gm one is actually a really great example of the benefits and drawbacks of the G80 auto-locking diff. The driver can't engage it, its not user selectable, but you can see it lock in hard right at the end with the wheel with the good traction kicks up dirt. Its designed so that it engages with 120 rpm difference, so it requires a little wheel spin before it locks in, but it does lock in and will be much better than any electronic system, including the i-VTM4
I'm really thinking that the Passport will be my next SUV. The only down fall was their transmission choice for the Passport, should have been their new 10 speed. The exterior on the back is a little plain, but nothing terrible.
"...The Blazer is the family vehicle that actually appeals to the whole family, and for that reason it upsets the Honda(Passport)on its home court." I think the Motor Trend staff was weeping when they wrote that!
Only GM I would ever buy is a GM with a V8 except crappy 5.3 GM doesn’t make good V6 or 4 cylinders. Their transmissions are crap too. Too many sensors fail on them. My friend owns a transmission shop and he makes a ton of money from GM vehicles. Especially new ones shipped from GM. Cadillacs have a ton of issues the most.
@@ryanb8736 "...Chevrolet commissioned independent research company Ipsos to conduct a survey. The details specify that reliability is defined as "the percentage of vehicle owners who reported they have not repaired or replaced any vehicle components in the past 12 months (excluding fluids, filters and those related to accident/collision)."... "...The survey sent out 840,979 letters to 2015 model-year vehicle owners, with time in service starting December 2014 through June 2015. Overall, Ipsos received 48,679 responses from Acura, Audi, BMW, Buick, Cadillac, Chevrolet, Chrysler, Dodge, Fiat, Ford, GMC, Honda, Hyundai, Infiniti, Jaguar, Jeep, Kia, Land Rover, Lexus, Lincoln, Mazda, Mercedes-Benz, Mini, Mitsubishi, Nissan, Ram, Subaru, Toyota, Volkswagen and Volvo owners. Full details on the survey can be found online...." Autoblog.com
Rick Funk I agree. I totally get that it’s not what crossovers like this were designed for, but it would be nice to see where it’s limitations would start to appear. Still a nice review, though.
I never thought to say this, coming from Subaru. But the new system Honda is offering, even in the current CR-V that lacks off road driving modes, its very capable... On my opinion, CR-V system is more capable than Rav4 today...and this Pilot, it shows that Honda can play now the game.
New RAV4 as the "torque vectoring" which CR-V lacks. Is some situation this would benefit me. Unfortunately RAV4 comes comes with 2.0l and CVT on my market .
@@valdius85 The late CR-V also has active vectoring. Plus Honda's setup, is to work 50/50 when you take of, and it goes to 100% front when cruising. It can send up to 60% to the rear wheels, and I drove both cars on a step incline diagonal, to make the wheel lose contact and see how their system works. Toyota for some reason, loves to suck the power of the engine in those situations, and you need to wait till the system decides where to put the power and let you rev again the engine. Honda system will spin the wheels, the engine will still rev and then the power goes to the wheels with traction. It may take the same time as Toyota to figure out what to do, but that thing of Toyota, to cut the power first even when you are "accelerating" doesn't inspire confidence to drive on bad terrain. On asphalt, Toyota feels like a 2wd, you can make the front wheels spin if you are driving it hard in corners, or taking off on a green light.
@@subazealand9158 Can you please give any sources. From what I checked so far it is "Real Time AWD", which is does not active torque system. SH-AWD and Honda i-VTM4, which to my knowledge is not installed on CR-V. CR-V AWD system has improved but, from what I seen so far, is due to the software changes.
@@subazealand9158 I am not even sure CR-V "needs" it. All I need is a system that will lock one wheel PROPERLY acting like a LSD to get moving when one side of the vehicle is on a loose surface. I need good brakes due to mountain drives so this will not add that much heat, proportionally of course. It is easier to maintain brakes than complicated AWD system, for my situation/needs of course. New CR-V does well from what I seen on YT so far - rollers test etc. Saying that CR-V is overpriced, lacking in features, has limited visibility and I do not like the looks - I do not what Honda Japan thinks. It sells worse than Forester, CX-T and now new RAV4 is selling like crazy in first month on the market. I was so seriously disappointed at Hona. We have two Hondas I drive very often.
captnMorgan41424 get the Passport. Honda is doing thinks better now and his AWD system works faster than Subaru, don’t get me wrong, Subaru works grate but takes some time. Plus Honda has Torque Vectoring in corners is lovely. But if you still want a Subaru just don’t buy a CVT because you are going to get really stuck.
@@Dr.Beat01 X-Mode seems to handle the power load and distribution quite well, just make sure to have the proper tires for the situation. I just hear hesitant things about Honda’s 9-speed being indecisive
Coming from driving several BMW 3-series cars the last 16 years, my favorite mid-size crossover is the new Honda Passport, which I purchased in March (2019)! Great video, but hey I'm admittedly biased...
I’m a true German die hard fan and Passport makes sense. It’s very reminiscent of old German cars on the inside. Simple but well laid out design. Very ergonomically friendly. It’s the only Honda that drives great other than Type R. Acura MDX is nice too, but it’s price is too close to Germans which makes Acura useless to buy at that competitive price. B58 engine all day over Acura for same price.
I just need something something for daily driving that does well on snow. Have a Crosstrek, which has been fine (fantastic in snow) but the back seat is dinky for my growing kids. Kind of tired of the anemic engine driving up and down a mtn every day for work though...
I would love to see Passport in Japan. So far there is little choice of this size vehicles, with decent dirt road capabilities and the read hatch. Prado has a side door, which is useless on most car parks in Japan... so I use Grand Cherokee... ;) Also it would be nice to see SH-AWD or i-VTM4 system in CR-V, even as an option.
I purchased a 2021 Passport EX-L and have a question on the AWD system. Last week I was heading up to Stevens Pass for a day on the slopes, on the way up we started to get into some snow so I put it into the SNOW mode. The first thing I noticed was the lack of acceleration as I was coming up on a semi and three trucks I planned on passing, it seemed like I just kept pushing and pushing on the throttle with very little to no acceleration. After passing them I got to a wider section of hwy 2 and decided to try and accelerate and get up to a higher speed. I was cruising at 41mph and pushed the pedal which I was surprised at the amount of time it took to reach 50mph, so I pressed harder only to have the traction control light flash. My question is if I do not press the SNOW button will the vehicle be in front wheel drive then switch to AWD is the front wheels should spin, as my Element did. It wasn’t uncommon to reach 60 mph in my Element and to not reach that in my new vehicle was rather upsetting.
The Passport will be in AWD all the time. It’s a much better system than the one in the Element. Snow retards throttle a lot to avoid sudden power which can cause slip. Unless you need that specific action, there’s nothing wrong with just keeping it in normal mode.
@@drivingsports thank you so much for your reply, and glad to hear I don’t have to have it in SNOW mode. Once I throw some new 17” rims and some BFG All Terrains on it I know the traction will increase over the stock tires and prevent the occasional traction control light from flashing.
My favorite right now is the Jeep Cherokee. I rented one last November and it fit my tall family quite well. My CUV experience is quite limited though. I’ve really only driven the Cherokee, a Rogue, and an Equinox. All rentals.
Dude, if you buy a Jeep make sure you get every extended warranty available, cause you're gonna need it. Owning a Jeep is COMPLETELY different than renting on for a week!
stevendphoto Don’t worry. I do not have any plans to buy a Jeep or any CUV. I enjoy driving my Mazda6 and my wife loves her Leaf. Both trouble free. Anytime we take a multi-day road trip we will rent a CUV.
Chevy Blazer engineer Larry Milhalko says in the TFL review the RS has Twin Clutch AWD system that sends up to 60% of torque to the rear and also torque vectors the differential left and right.
I also owned a 1998 4-Runner and loved it, it was my wife's daily driver for 17 years and 217k miles, and YES, the Passport cargo space is MORE than that version, not sure about the current 2019 version, which is the same as the 2010 version, since Toyota' can't be bothered with giving a full update, instead they put their development money into the embarrassingly underwhelming new 2019 RAV4...!
Only you can make that choice. Forester is much slower and has a slower transmission with it only being CVT. Passport is a snarky V6 with a real transmission. Drive both to see. Everyone has different likes.
The Passport is HUGE inside compared to the RAV4. Drive them both. Also check out our full review of the Passport: ruclips.net/video/cHwp1WxhYpI/видео.html
Not in the Telluride. That one was confirmed to be internal Kia. I think the one in question was the Hyundai Santa Fe or the Kia Sorrento? Those use the Magna still.
Air down to 20 psi and you're good to go. Took mine through some real deep, soft sand yesterday without airing down (35 psi - which I don't recommend doing with any vehicle) but I blasted right through it. I-VTM 4 AWD works great in sand mode, your bigger concern is ground clearance and getting hung up on any super deep ruts etc. Here's another reviewer driving in deep sand: ruclips.net/video/1wej1vE5ikY/видео.html
Way cool! What I don't understand is that about 0% of Passport shoppers will take it on anything like your course. So, what the hey? Why do we want "off-road" when we stay on-road?
Help me understand why this type of test is always so necessary when buying a vehicle that is far from a all terrain vehicle. Who in their right mind would spend a large sum of money to take their top of line vehicle off road? Here's a comparison I am trying to make here: Seeing commercials for pocket knives illustrating how fast they can cut down a 6ft diameter tree... except the pocket knives are in the 40-to-50 thousand dollar range.
Not going to get into details, but even my 2014 Honda accord v6 coupe conquered an offroad similar to that track lol. C'mon you can do better than that.
Sorry i'm unsubscribing, I'm sick of Bloody 4wd's and reviews of them. It's bad enough putting up with them in our city streets, let alone watching them on RUclips
@@drivingsports I love it personally. For those of us that live in snowy and unforgivable climates, it is good to get an idea of what to expect from the vehicles that we drive.
What’s your favorite mid-size crossover?
CX5. Do you have any CX5 off road evaluation video>?
Here’s our full review of the CX-5: ruclips.net/video/tC4cE6pSIG4/видео.html (covers AWD capability.)
How did the passport vs 2019 Rav 4 do?
Je P Passport has a more capable AWD setup. It’s also a LOT quieter in the cabin.
LOL, it sucks off-road...
Just purchased two 2021 Passports, one for me and one for the wife. Both AWD and we love them!
How have the Passports been treating you and your wife?
@Ryan UFC still love them! Just had mine ceramic coated. Hers is next month! Great suvs
I love hondas all wheel drive system
This Honda Passport is surprisngly good. Would love to see a head to head comparison of the Honda Passport, Acura RDX, Honda CR-V, Toyota Rav4, and Lexus NX.
It would beat them all but the Acura, They need to compare to Subaru and Audi cause the new Honda AWD is better
@@Captain_Brown_Beard Honda has the worst AWD systems. In addition it has an overhead cam crasher V6 with rubber belt. No thanks.
That gm one is actually a really great example of the benefits and drawbacks of the G80 auto-locking diff. The driver can't engage it, its not user selectable, but you can see it lock in hard right at the end with the wheel with the good traction kicks up dirt. Its designed so that it engages with 120 rpm difference, so it requires a little wheel spin before it locks in, but it does lock in and will be much better than any electronic system, including the i-VTM4
Preach on brotha👏👏👏Been saying it for years to non GM owners! The g80 has been proven to out power even on some of these 4x4’s out there
I'm really thinking that the Passport will be my next SUV. The only down fall was their transmission choice for the Passport, should have been their new 10 speed. The exterior on the back is a little plain, but nothing terrible.
it's too new right now, wait couple more years.
Kanti123 Too new? Is the Pilot too new too?
Doesn't pilot use the same transmission in the two higher trims?
Love your channel! Always so informative and entertaining.
"...The Blazer is the family vehicle that actually appeals to the whole family, and for that reason it upsets the Honda(Passport)on its home court."
I think the Motor Trend staff was weeping when they wrote that!
Only GM I would ever buy is a GM with a V8 except crappy 5.3 GM doesn’t make good V6 or 4 cylinders. Their transmissions are crap too. Too many sensors fail on them. My friend owns a transmission shop and he makes a ton of money from GM vehicles. Especially new ones shipped from GM. Cadillacs have a ton of issues the most.
@@ryanb8736 "...Chevrolet commissioned independent research company Ipsos to conduct a survey. The details specify that reliability is defined as "the percentage of vehicle owners who reported they have not repaired or replaced any vehicle components in the past 12 months (excluding fluids, filters and those related to accident/collision)."...
"...The survey sent out 840,979 letters to 2015 model-year vehicle owners, with time in service starting December 2014 through June 2015. Overall, Ipsos received 48,679 responses from Acura, Audi, BMW, Buick, Cadillac, Chevrolet, Chrysler, Dodge, Fiat, Ford, GMC, Honda, Hyundai, Infiniti, Jaguar, Jeep, Kia, Land Rover, Lexus, Lincoln, Mazda, Mercedes-Benz, Mini, Mitsubishi, Nissan, Ram, Subaru, Toyota, Volkswagen and Volvo owners. Full details on the survey can be found online...." Autoblog.com
Would have been nice if you showed it doing the more aggressive route.
Rick Funk I agree. I totally get that it’s not what crossovers like this were designed for, but it would be nice to see where it’s limitations would start to appear. Still a nice review, though.
AWD light might come on and overheat. This little light of mine, I’m gonna let it shine 😂😂. I’m sure it does decent but wouldn’t touch it
I never thought to say this, coming from Subaru. But the new system Honda is offering, even in the current CR-V that lacks off road driving modes, its very capable... On my opinion, CR-V system is more capable than Rav4 today...and this Pilot, it shows that Honda can play now the game.
New RAV4 as the "torque vectoring" which CR-V lacks. Is some situation this would benefit me. Unfortunately RAV4 comes comes with 2.0l and CVT on my market .
@@valdius85 The late CR-V also has active vectoring. Plus Honda's setup, is to work 50/50 when you take of, and it goes to 100% front when cruising. It can send up to 60% to the rear wheels, and I drove both cars on a step incline diagonal, to make the wheel lose contact and see how their system works. Toyota for some reason, loves to suck the power of the engine in those situations, and you need to wait till the system decides where to put the power and let you rev again the engine. Honda system will spin the wheels, the engine will still rev and then the power goes to the wheels with traction. It may take the same time as Toyota to figure out what to do, but that thing of Toyota, to cut the power first even when you are "accelerating" doesn't inspire confidence to drive on bad terrain. On asphalt, Toyota feels like a 2wd, you can make the front wheels spin if you are driving it hard in corners, or taking off on a green light.
@@subazealand9158 Can you please give any sources. From what I checked so far it is "Real Time AWD", which is does not active torque system. SH-AWD and Honda i-VTM4, which to my knowledge is not installed on CR-V.
CR-V AWD system has improved but, from what I seen so far, is due to the software changes.
@@valdius85 yes, my bad. There's no active vectoring, but the rest of the info is correct.
@@subazealand9158 I am not even sure CR-V "needs" it. All I need is a system that will lock one wheel PROPERLY acting like a LSD to get moving when one side of the vehicle is on a loose surface. I need good brakes due to mountain drives so this will not add that much heat, proportionally of course. It is easier to maintain brakes than complicated AWD system, for my situation/needs of course.
New CR-V does well from what I seen on YT so far - rollers test etc.
Saying that CR-V is overpriced, lacking in features, has limited visibility and I do not like the looks - I do not what Honda Japan thinks. It sells worse than Forester, CX-T and now new RAV4 is selling like crazy in first month on the market.
I was so seriously disappointed at Hona. We have two Hondas I drive very often.
How did the Subaru Forester compare on the off road course? trying to decided between the two vehicles.
captnMorgan41424 get the Passport. Honda is doing thinks better now and his AWD system works faster than Subaru, don’t get me wrong, Subaru works grate but takes some time. Plus Honda has Torque Vectoring in corners is lovely. But if you still want a Subaru just don’t buy a CVT because you are going to get really stuck.
@@Dr.Beat01 X-Mode seems to handle the power load and distribution quite well, just make sure to have the proper tires for the situation. I just hear hesitant things about Honda’s 9-speed being indecisive
The best crossover for both worlds
Coming from driving several BMW 3-series cars the last 16 years, my favorite mid-size crossover is the new Honda Passport, which I purchased in March (2019)! Great video, but hey I'm admittedly biased...
I'm sure the Passport would be great for you to take skiing, I bought mine for camping/fishing trips...!
Anything with iVTM4 and snow tires would be unstoppable in the snow.
I’m a true German die hard fan and Passport makes sense. It’s very reminiscent of old German cars on the inside. Simple but well laid out design. Very ergonomically friendly. It’s the only Honda that drives great other than Type R.
Acura MDX is nice too, but it’s price is too close to Germans which makes Acura useless to buy at that competitive price. B58 engine all day over Acura for same price.
@@drivingsportsTrue. It’s a great AWD system. Even by todays standards years later. Glad Honda didn’t ruin it with hybrid and CVT.
I just need something something for daily driving that does well on snow. Have a Crosstrek, which has been fine (fantastic in snow) but the back seat is dinky for my growing kids. Kind of tired of the anemic engine driving up and down a mtn every day for work though...
Does that mean Telluride AWD is as good as Subaru and Honda?
Wait. You said there's hill descent control here. but in the review you said it wasn't there
How did the RAV4 Adventure preform? Saw it in the lineup looking good in blue.
@Jaylan Pittmon
What problems have you run into?
Did you say get an RDX if the leather you want is better? This is an MDX size vehicle though
Are we going to see any more aggressive off tossing videos with RAV4 adventure?
NIce vid man
I would love to see Passport in Japan. So far there is little choice of this size vehicles, with decent dirt road capabilities and the read hatch. Prado has a side door, which is useless on most car parks in Japan... so I use Grand Cherokee... ;)
Also it would be nice to see SH-AWD or i-VTM4 system in CR-V, even as an option.
I purchased a 2021 Passport EX-L and have a question on the AWD system. Last week I was heading up to Stevens Pass for a day on the slopes, on the way up we started to get into some snow so I put it into the SNOW mode. The first thing I noticed was the lack of acceleration as I was coming up on a semi and three trucks I planned on passing, it seemed like I just kept pushing and pushing on the throttle with very little to no acceleration.
After passing them I got to a wider section of hwy 2 and decided to try and accelerate and get up to a higher speed. I was cruising at 41mph and pushed the pedal which I was surprised at the amount of time it took to reach 50mph, so I pressed harder only to have the traction control light flash. My question is if I do not press the SNOW button will the vehicle be in front wheel drive then switch to AWD is the front wheels should spin, as my Element did. It wasn’t uncommon to reach 60 mph in my Element and to not reach that in my new vehicle was rather upsetting.
The Passport will be in AWD all the time. It’s a much better system than the one in the Element. Snow retards throttle a lot to avoid sudden power which can cause slip. Unless you need that specific action, there’s nothing wrong with just keeping it in normal mode.
@@drivingsports thank you so much for your reply, and glad to hear I don’t have to have it in SNOW mode. Once I throw some new 17” rims and some BFG All Terrains on it I know the traction will increase over the stock tires and prevent the occasional traction control light from flashing.
Snow mode is for inexperienced drivers. It helps them slow down in bad conditions. Never use them if you are experienced.
I wish there was a course like this that everyday guys could take there vehicles out and play without full on mudding/rock crawling.
My favorite right now is the Jeep Cherokee. I rented one last November and it fit my tall family quite well. My CUV experience is quite limited though. I’ve really only driven the Cherokee, a Rogue, and an Equinox. All rentals.
Dude, if you buy a Jeep make sure you get every extended warranty available, cause you're gonna need it. Owning a Jeep is COMPLETELY different than renting on for a week!
stevendphoto Don’t worry. I do not have any plans to buy a Jeep or any CUV. I enjoy driving my Mazda6 and my wife loves her Leaf. Both trouble free. Anytime we take a multi-day road trip we will rent a CUV.
Chevy Blazer engineer Larry Milhalko says in the TFL review the RS has Twin Clutch AWD system that sends up to 60% of torque to the rear and also torque vectors the differential left and right.
The new Cherokee is a disgrace to the name..
Good test ground. Hope you consider doing a full review of Honda Passport.
We will be. It's scheduled to film in June.
I have the 2019 Passport Sport love it but HATE the auto stop and start of the engine!
I have a passport also and I also hate the auto stop. I have taken to leaving the ac on year round and just adjust the temp accordingly.
You can’t turn it off? I turn it off on my 2021 passport
Is the cargo volume of passport larger than 4runner's?
I also owned a 1998 4-Runner and loved it, it was my wife's daily driver for 17 years and 217k miles, and YES, the Passport cargo space is MORE than that version, not sure about the current 2019 version, which is the same as the 2010 version, since Toyota' can't be bothered with giving a full update, instead they put their development money into the embarrassingly underwhelming new 2019 RAV4...!
Which would you choose? The passport or the forester 2021?
Great reviews btw
Only you can make that choice. Forester is much slower and has a slower transmission with it only being CVT.
Passport is a snarky V6 with a real transmission.
Drive both to see. Everyone has different likes.
@@ryanb8736 thank you
Minuto 3:26 deverian aumentar la suspensión ya que era más alta antes 👍
I’m still deciding on a PASSPORT or the RAV4 thoughts???
The Passport is HUGE inside compared to the RAV4. Drive them both. Also check out our full review of the Passport: ruclips.net/video/cHwp1WxhYpI/видео.html
I thought we discovered that the KIA system was a Magna system after all.
Not in the Telluride. That one was confirmed to be internal Kia. I think the one in question was the Hyundai Santa Fe or the Kia Sorrento? Those use the Magna still.
Dear Honda + Toyota, please lower the base prices on your amazing vehicles. Thank you.
Sincerely, some people in the United States of America.
That 9 speed needs to be changed. I don’t know why they keep using
Right, Subaru’s CVT with the Outback XT feels smoother
Would this make it on the beach in soft sand?
Air down to 20 psi and you're good to go. Took mine through some real deep, soft sand yesterday without airing down (35 psi - which I don't recommend doing with any vehicle) but I blasted right through it. I-VTM 4 AWD works great in sand mode, your bigger concern is ground clearance and getting hung up on any super deep ruts etc. Here's another reviewer driving in deep sand: ruclips.net/video/1wej1vE5ikY/видео.html
Way cool! What I don't understand is that about 0% of Passport shoppers will take it on anything like your course. So, what the hey? Why do we want "off-road" when we stay on-road?
I think they will actually, especially that there already is Pilot available. So those who go camping might choose Passport instead of Pilot.
Excellent offroad ability! ! Almost as good as my Corolla.
95% of people buying AWD crossovers wont be on this kind of trail, maybe not ever!..
What a great “little” car lol
Montero sport, get that thing over here. These other things are Minivans in High Heels
Honda👍💪💪💪
For the love of GAAAwwwwddd do the 2019 RAV 4 Hybrid on this track!!!
Second gen mdx! Sh awd with the Honda big block 3.7 fuel thirsty beast of a motor .
2nd generation MDX is one of my favorite Acura vehicles
you should've tested it on the hard trail
That is offroad course? My accord could clear all that with just fwd
Help me understand why this type of test is always so necessary when buying a vehicle that is far from a all terrain vehicle.
Who in their right mind would spend a large sum of money to take their top of line vehicle off road?
Here's a comparison I am trying to make here: Seeing commercials for pocket knives illustrating how fast they can cut down a 6ft diameter tree... except the pocket knives are in the 40-to-50 thousand dollar range.
Not going to get into details, but even my 2014 Honda accord v6 coupe conquered an offroad similar to that track lol. C'mon you can do better than that.
Sorry i'm unsubscribing, I'm sick of Bloody 4wd's and reviews of them. It's bad enough putting up with them in our city streets, let alone watching them on RUclips
Next week is NSX, btw. Lol. We do a lot of crossovers over the winter months and into spring, because of the weather here in the PNW.
@@drivingsports I love it personally. For those of us that live in snowy and unforgivable climates, it is good to get an idea of what to expect from the vehicles that we drive.
Lmao were did the suvs and trucks hurt you
+greggy weggy
For those of us that live in the NE or the PNW or the rockies these are the only reviews that matter.
reaper39 not gonna change his opinion he’s a city slicker most usually only think of themselves.