🔥💚✊ Bra jobba! Gode svar på alt som kom opp. Litt rart når indere ikke veit at plantebasert mat er billigst, men han tenkte vel mest på "plantekjøttet" når han sa det.
Thank you, Aryan. Appreciate it! It's necessary, indeed. I always try to get better at it. All the videos I have up are all from the same two days. Hopefully I have even better phrasing and focus on the core message in my more recent outreaches, like two days ago.
Nice work! I like the written commentary. The issue with “acrasia-tho” carnists is that they think violating animal rights is either only a minor injustice and/or abstinence from such actions is non-obligatory. This carnist falls into both categories.
It's hilarious since he keeps using false equivalency and appeal to emotion fallacies. It shows he has nothing. There is no healthy plants only diet for us. Show a study that says otherwise. Hint...there isn't one. Why do you use animal products needlessly while only pretending to be against it? I know you will evade this question again because you know a direct and factual answer makes me look good and you look bad.
@@SteversChed docs.google.com/document/d/1x_nKQgJS79saZ7XYNxZSephsqz50Ti3RjTauw5aV3fY/edit?usp=sharing "British Dietetic Association confirms well-planned Vegan diets can support healthy living in people of all ages." www.bda.uk.com/resource/british-dietetic-association-confirms-well-planned-vegan-diets-can-support-healthy-living-in-people-of-all-ages.html "A balanced vegan diet gives you all the nutrients your body needs." - National Health Service www.nhs.uk/live-well/eat-well/the-vegan-diet/ "A vegan diet can meet the needs of people of all ages, including children, teenagers, and pregnant or breast-feeding women." www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/in-depth/vegetarian-diet/art-20046446 "Vegan diets are appropriate for all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, adolescence, older adulthood, and for athletes. Plant-based diets are more environmentally sustainable than diets rich in animal products because they use fewer natural resources and are associated with much less environmental damage. Vegans are at reduced risk of heart disease, type 2 diabetes, hypertension, certain types of cancer, and obesity. Low intake of saturated fat and high intakes of vegetables, fruits, whole grains, legumes, soy products, nuts, and seeds (all rich in fiber and phytochemicals) are characteristics of vegetarian and vegan diets that produce lower total and low-density lipoprotein (LDL) cholesterol levels and better serum glucose control. These factors contribute to reduction of chronic disease. Vegans need reliable sources of vitamin B-12, such as fortified foods or supplements.” - Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics 2016 (the world's largest organization of food and nutrition experts with 100,000 registered dietitians) pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27886704/ "If properly planned, a vegan diet can provide all the nutrients you need. In general, people who don't eat meat: Weigh less than people who eat meat. Are less likely to die of heart disease. Have lower cholesterol levels. Are less likely to get: High blood pressure. Prostate cancer. Colon cancer. Type 2 diabetes. Good health could be related to a diet of mostly fruits, vegetables, and whole grains." healthy.kaiserpermanente.org/health-wellness/health-encyclopedia/he.vegan-diet.abq2485 "Vegetarian and vegan diets can provide all the nutrients you need at any age, as well as some additional health benefits. Vegetarian diets often have lower levels of total fat, saturated fat and cholesterol than many meat-based diets, and higher intakes of fiber, magnesium, potassium, folate and antioxidants such as vitamins C and E. Vegetarian/vegan diets may lead to lower blood pressure, improved cholesterol levels, healthier weight and less incidence of Type 2 Diabetes, all of which can reduce the risk of heart disease and stroke." www.heartandstroke.ca/healthy-living/healthy-eating/specific-diets/for-vegetarians "Given that so many health conditions and adverse outcomes can be mitigated by a plant-based diet, and that there is rapidly-growing public interest in this diet, physicians need to be educated and ready to counsel their patients on the benefits and risks of a plant-based diet. A well-planned diet of plant-based whole foods incorporating a variety of vegetables, whole grains, nuts, and legumes can be one tool to help physicians and patients address chronic lifestyle diseases. Patients with chronic health conditions who adhere to this diet may expect to see weight loss, improvement in blood pressure and cholesterol, and reduced risk of heart disease. […] The American Heart Association and Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics now recognize that a well-planned plant-based diet is healthy and safe for most adults. Physicians should feel confident recommending such a diet to their patients.” www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8210981/ "Plant-based eating is recognized as not only nutritionally sufficient but also as a way to reduce the risk for many chronic illnesses. According to the American Dietetic Association, "appropriately planned vegetarian diets, including total vegetarian or vegan diets, are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases." […] Vegetarians/vegans are likely to have lower total and LDL (bad) cholesterol, lower blood pressure, and lower body mass index (BMI), all of which are associated with longevity and a reduced risk for many chronic diseases." - Harvard University www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/becoming-a-vegetarian "Focusing on whole foods from plant sources can reduce body weight, blood pressure and risk of heart disease, cancer and diabetes - and it can make your environmental impact more sustainable." - Stanford University news.stanford.edu/"report/2021/05/06/embracing-plant-based-diet/
@@theVegan47 All of that and you still can't show a single "PLANTS ONLY" study? Showing position papers based on word of mouth, studies that require synthetic supplements/fortified foods, and surveys aren't "PLANTS ONLY" studies. You didn't answer the question either...no surprise there. Thanks for the easy win and your concession since you can't show a "PLANTS ONLY" study and evaded the question.
You use animal products just like everyone else here. Why are you telling others to do what you're unwilling to do yourself? Why do you use animal products needlessly (that means possible and practicable to avoid) while only pretending to be against it?
My take is there is no such thing as the right to live. To be more precise, I do not believe in any form of human or animal rights. The problem though is we can make agreements with other humans based on the non-aggression principle, but animals pose a technical issue because they do not understand the nature of contracts. Basically, you cannot approach a lion and say "I won't attack you if you do not attack me." Based on this, the cruelty you exert on an animal when you are hungry is justified because they would do the same to you if they could.
Just want vegans to know that after 2 years of a plant based diet I did my own n=1 study and corrected the following health problems with only diet, no supplements or exercise: obesity, prediabetes, loose teeth, bleeding gums, sensitive teeth cold sores, blocked sinuses, mouth breathing, left eye twitches (tetany) heartburn, calf cramps, yellow stool, blood in stool edema below the knees, painful feet when walking, sunburn is less shoulder, back and neck pain after waking, lower back pain and stiffness 5+ Years on the carnivore lifestyle now :) Eat Meat, Not Too Little, Mostly Fat
"British Dietetic Association confirms well-planned Vegan diets can support healthy living in people of all ages." www.bda.uk.com/resource/british-dietetic-association-confirms-well-planned-vegan-diets-can-support-healthy-living-in-people-of-all-ages.html "A balanced vegan diet gives you all the nutrients your body needs." - National Health Service www.nhs.uk/live-well/eat-well/the-vegan-diet/ "A vegan diet can meet the needs of people of all ages, including children, teenagers, and pregnant or breast-feeding women." www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/in-depth/vegetarian-diet/art-20046446 "Vegan diets are appropriate for all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, adolescence, older adulthood, and for athletes. Plant-based diets are more environmentally sustainable than diets rich in animal products because they use fewer natural resources and are associated with much less environmental damage. Vegans are at reduced risk of heart disease, type 2 diabetes, hypertension, certain types of cancer, and obesity. Low intake of saturated fat and high intakes of vegetables, fruits, whole grains, legumes, soy products, nuts, and seeds (all rich in fiber and phytochemicals) are characteristics of vegetarian and vegan diets that produce lower total and low-density lipoprotein (LDL) cholesterol levels and better serum glucose control. These factors contribute to reduction of chronic disease. Vegans need reliable sources of vitamin B-12, such as fortified foods or supplements.” - Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics 2016 (the world's largest organization of food and nutrition experts with 100,000 registered dietitians) pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27886704/ "If properly planned, a vegan diet can provide all the nutrients you need. In general, people who don't eat meat: Weigh less than people who eat meat. Are less likely to die of heart disease. Have lower cholesterol levels. Are less likely to get: High blood pressure. Prostate cancer. Colon cancer. Type 2 diabetes. Good health could be related to a diet of mostly fruits, vegetables, and whole grains." healthy.kaiserpermanente.org/health-wellness/health-encyclopedia/he.vegan-diet.abq2485 "Vegetarian and vegan diets can provide all the nutrients you need at any age, as well as some additional health benefits. Vegetarian diets often have lower levels of total fat, saturated fat and cholesterol than many meat-based diets, and higher intakes of fiber, magnesium, potassium, folate and antioxidants such as vitamins C and E. Vegetarian/vegan diets may lead to lower blood pressure, improved cholesterol levels, healthier weight and less incidence of Type 2 Diabetes, all of which can reduce the risk of heart disease and stroke." www.heartandstroke.ca/healthy-living/healthy-eating/specific-diets/for-vegetarians "Given that so many health conditions and adverse outcomes can be mitigated by a plant-based diet, and that there is rapidly-growing public interest in this diet, physicians need to be educated and ready to counsel their patients on the benefits and risks of a plant-based diet. A well-planned diet of plant-based whole foods incorporating a variety of vegetables, whole grains, nuts, and legumes can be one tool to help physicians and patients address chronic lifestyle diseases. Patients with chronic health conditions who adhere to this diet may expect to see weight loss, improvement in blood pressure and cholesterol, and reduced risk of heart disease. […] The American Heart Association and Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics now recognize that a well-planned plant-based diet is healthy and safe for most adults. Physicians should feel confident recommending such a diet to their patients.” www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8210981/ "Plant-based eating is recognized as not only nutritionally sufficient but also as a way to reduce the risk for many chronic illnesses. According to the American Dietetic Association, "appropriately planned vegetarian diets, including total vegetarian or vegan diets, are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases." […] Vegetarians/vegans are likely to have lower total and LDL (bad) cholesterol, lower blood pressure, and lower body mass index (BMI), all of which are associated with longevity and a reduced risk for many chronic diseases." - Harvard University www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/becoming-a-vegetarian "Focusing on whole foods from plant sources can reduce body weight, blood pressure and risk of heart disease, cancer and diabetes - and it can make your environmental impact more sustainable." - Stanford University news.stanford.edu/"report/2021/05/06/embracing-plant-based-diet/
@@theVegan47 Some of those sources have retracted their statements or no longer espouse them. I know all of the crap I healed when eating only meat so proved to myself that most of the "nutrition science" is all lies and religion rather than actual science. I healed these, most within 1 year obesity, prediabetes, loose teeth, bleeding gums, sensitive teeth cold sores, blocked sinuses, mouth breathing, left eye twitches (tetany) heartburn, calf cramps, yellow stool, blood in stool edema below the knees, painful feet when walking, sunburn is less shoulder, back and neck pain after waking, lower back pain and stiffness
@@theVegan47 Not a single one of those is a plants only study. They all include animal products, synthetic supplements, and/or processed fortified foods. Expired position papers that don't have any studies, open surveys that try to pass themselves off as studies, biased studies, and retracted studies that remain on the internet don't show a plants only study is healthy. There isn't a healthy plants only study. Why do you use animal products needlessly while only pretending to be against it?
" but its not easy enough yet"........."but Im not disciplined enough" ........"have to wait for prices to change"................. couldnt be easier.......resources and products everywhere........just lame arse excuses buddy! Watch Dominion and go vegan old son!
@@davidformosa7626 Tallow, gelatin, bones... Many things are made with animal products. Asphalt, some types of money, motor vehicles, electronics with processors, some housing materials, etc... How did you needlessly reply without using something with a processor? Smoke signals? You evaded the question...I'll bet your excuse is "it's okay because of a doctrine." or something like that.
@@SteversChed 1. How do you know someone uses tallow and gelatin? Vegans avoid those products in regular consumer items. 2. When it comes to the rest. Firstly, if you have, I would like to see proof of which animal products are in which of these items you mention and if it is like that everywhere. I would appreciate it. No vegan is an expert in know what everything is made of, so education is always good. 3. Granted some of the things you mentioned. (I know for example that the baby chicks macerated alive are sometimes used in concrete.) These things exist and are they way they are because non-vegans view animals are resources, not because of vegans. How can we live practically in civilization without using roads? We need to demand an animal free society in all areas, indeed. Right now we are far away from that, but it's changing because of good people changing. Veganism is not a set of practices, but a principle. 4. Still, these things do not dictate that we have to look at animals as resources and live accordingly the best we can in this current carnistic world. They also don't dictate that you or others have to participate in all the other easily avoidable areas of exploitation of animals. This is a typical appeal to hypocrisy fallacy. If you are vegan, however, it's a fair conversation and I'd be happy to figure things out with you on how we can deal with this. And even if we benefit or use facilities where non-vegans have put animal products, we can always use existing (second hand) than creating a demand for more. This will also apply for the exploitation and even death of humans. A lot of humans die in production of items, buildings, infrastructure, traffic etc.
@@theVegan47 Companies disclose a public material list. I have tried linking it but it never goes through so you need to look yourself. The difference is using them "needlessly." Second hand is irrelevant and you know it. YT servers aren't second hand, are made with animal products, and you're still here. Thanks for the easy win and your concession since you just evade facts you don't like.
1. If you want go 100% like this guy, then you should abstain from medical drugs und procedures testet on animals for you and your family, right? 2. Plant based is healthy, but not vegan. There is a reason, why eggs and meat, cheese ect. is so tasty and makes us feel good and many people who abstain from it have cravings. 3. You would have to end the "slavery" (his term) and "prisons" of all pets, where they are the toys, have to do whatever theirs "masters" want them to do. 4. He didn´t bring any valid argument against animal products.
1. 100% vegan means you adopt the mindset that non-human animals are not here for you to use. You stop seeing them as resources, slaves or commodities for human use and act accordingly as best as possible. If in an edge case you need to do something for your survival and basic health, you do what you have to do - just like in situations with humans. If a human attacks you, you can justify even taking their life. Unfortunately, we live in a carnistic (non-vegan) world where most systems are based on exploiting animals. We can change this, but we need incentives for it. 2. What do you mean plant based is healthy, not Vegan? Eating 100% plant based is a result of the Vegan ethical principle. The reason why is seasoning, preparation, fat and salt content etc. Still irrelevant. We have to look at proper science, health outcome data and not pseudoscience. I will link to health sources at the end. 3. Veganism is against the use of animals in any way - including pets etc. 4. Do you think it's ok for someone to exploit you and your family? To turn you into products? If you say that it's your life and body, not anyone else's and that you have a preference to not be used, harmed etc. You just made a reasonable argument. And that applies to other species as well. We are similar to them in all the ways that matter. SOURCES FOR HEALTH ON A PLANT BASED DIET: "British Dietetic Association confirms well-planned Vegan diets can support healthy living in people of all ages." www.bda.uk.com/resource/british-dietetic-association-confirms-well-planned-vegan-diets-can-support-healthy-living-in-people-of-all-ages.html "A balanced vegan diet gives you all the nutrients your body needs." - National Health Service www.nhs.uk/live-well/eat-well/the-vegan-diet/ "A vegan diet can meet the needs of people of all ages, including children, teenagers, and pregnant or breast-feeding women." www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/in-depth/vegetarian-diet/art-20046446 "Vegan diets are appropriate for all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, adolescence, older adulthood, and for athletes. Plant-based diets are more environmentally sustainable than diets rich in animal products because they use fewer natural resources and are associated with much less environmental damage. Vegans are at reduced risk of heart disease, type 2 diabetes, hypertension, certain types of cancer, and obesity. Low intake of saturated fat and high intakes of vegetables, fruits, whole grains, legumes, soy products, nuts, and seeds (all rich in fiber and phytochemicals) are characteristics of vegetarian and vegan diets that produce lower total and low-density lipoprotein (LDL) cholesterol levels and better serum glucose control. These factors contribute to reduction of chronic disease. Vegans need reliable sources of vitamin B-12, such as fortified foods or supplements.” - Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics 2016 (the world's largest organization of food and nutrition experts with 100,000 registered dietitians) pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27886704/ "If properly planned, a vegan diet can provide all the nutrients you need. In general, people who don't eat meat: Weigh less than people who eat meat. Are less likely to die of heart disease. Have lower cholesterol levels. Are less likely to get: High blood pressure. Prostate cancer. Colon cancer. Type 2 diabetes. Good health could be related to a diet of mostly fruits, vegetables, and whole grains." healthy.kaiserpermanente.org/health-wellness/health-encyclopedia/he.vegan-diet.abq2485 "Vegetarian and vegan diets can provide all the nutrients you need at any age, as well as some additional health benefits. Vegetarian diets often have lower levels of total fat, saturated fat and cholesterol than many meat-based diets, and higher intakes of fiber, magnesium, potassium, folate and antioxidants such as vitamins C and E. Vegetarian/vegan diets may lead to lower blood pressure, improved cholesterol levels, healthier weight and less incidence of Type 2 Diabetes, all of which can reduce the risk of heart disease and stroke." www.heartandstroke.ca/healthy-living/healthy-eating/specific-diets/for-vegetarians "Given that so many health conditions and adverse outcomes can be mitigated by a plant-based diet, and that there is rapidly-growing public interest in this diet, physicians need to be educated and ready to counsel their patients on the benefits and risks of a plant-based diet. A well-planned diet of plant-based whole foods incorporating a variety of vegetables, whole grains, nuts, and legumes can be one tool to help physicians and patients address chronic lifestyle diseases. Patients with chronic health conditions who adhere to this diet may expect to see weight loss, improvement in blood pressure and cholesterol, and reduced risk of heart disease. […] The American Heart Association and Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics now recognize that a well-planned plant-based diet is healthy and safe for most adults. Physicians should feel confident recommending such a diet to their patients.” www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8210981/ "Plant-based eating is recognized as not only nutritionally sufficient but also as a way to reduce the risk for many chronic illnesses. According to the American Dietetic Association, "appropriately planned vegetarian diets, including total vegetarian or vegan diets, are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases." […] Vegetarians/vegans are likely to have lower total and LDL (bad) cholesterol, lower blood pressure, and lower body mass index (BMI), all of which are associated with longevity and a reduced risk for many chronic diseases." - Harvard University www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/becoming-a-vegetarian "Focusing on whole foods from plant sources can reduce body weight, blood pressure and risk of heart disease, cancer and diabetes - and it can make your environmental impact more sustainable." - Stanford University news.stanford.edu/"report/2021/05/06/embracing-plant-based-diet/
@@theVegan47 1. Just for clarifying: would you or would you not abstain from conventional medical treatment for you and your closest? Since western medicine is based on research done on animals (on exploitation and suffering of animals) , that would the right thing do. As I’m concerned I use all means to make my and the life of my closest better. 1. The majority of physicians (including my doc) do not recommend neither a pure vegan diet nor other extreme diets. My friends who were vegans stoppt while being pregnant and don´t apply it to their children, since their physicians advised them do so due to problems, including having depressions. The problems were solved after going back to a balanced diet. So are our physicians wrong? 3. That would mean it’s better for the pets not having a life/not to exist in a good home, being loved and protected and having a better life then their relives in the wild, since their are treated when their sick, protected from predators, experience no starvation and have therefore a much higher life expectancy? So you are arguing against the increase of pleasure/happiness in the world! Btw this must be your interpretation of veganism, since I know 2 vegans, one with 2 cats, the other with a dog. 4. In nature there is no law, no rules. Animals try and even have to „exploit“ other animals, humans included. This „exploitation“ is the core of life, no nature is possible without it. Or do you suggest we should stop the „mass-murdering“, the „war“ in the nature? How about stoping the predators from killing? We set the rules, and all that are human constructs. And the basic rule is humans first. So yes, to minimise suffering is good as much as possible 5. What’s wrong with having cattle on a pasture, or chickens running around and taking their products without (or with minimal) suffering? In the wild this animals would suffer much more from predators (being eaten alive is no fun), parasites and starvation and have a lower life expectancy. What is the moral argument against it? 6. Do you know how many animals die in the production of corn and other products? Gazillion animals build their nests in the fields each year or hide there when the fields are harvested. To my knowledge till now there no vegans harvesting the field by hand in order to make sure their food is harvested without „murder“.
So many appeals to emotion, false equivalences, and guilt tripping. It's hilarious. Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment while only pretending to be against it? My bet, you won't answer directly and factually.
Name the false equivalences. I try to make people connect with the victims and see it from their perspective in order to motivate empathy and understanding. To make them understanding that if it was them in that position, they would want their oppressors to stop. At the same time I make the objective case that they are individuals with preferences and a will to be free from exploitation. It's their life and their body. Those are the same reasons why we shouldn't exploit humans. We are similar in the ways that matter. Not recognizing that is ignorant and/or speciesist. How am I using animal products needlessly for entertainment? What do you mean?
@@theVegan47 Comparing livestock and humans is an appeal to emotion and false equivalency. Looks like I won the bet since you didn't answer directly or factually. Many things are made with animal products. Asphalt, some types of money, motor vehicles, electronics with processors, some housing materials, etc... How did you needlessly reply without using something with a processor? Smoke signals? Thanks for the easy win and your concession since you evaded the question and will continue evading the question.
@@rupert909 You replied to the wrong person. I know they are logical fallacies and that he used them. Can't answer the fact based question either? Neither could he....
@@SteversChed you just call everything a logical fallacy lmao... "comparing livestock to humans is an appeal to emotion and false equivalence" a comparison is NOT an equivalence... Nor is it an appeal to emotion. It's a comparison. You can compare literally any two things and not commit a fallacy. What "fact based question"? 😂
Thank you for standing up for animals ✊✊✊✊
Excellent outreach. Thank you fellow vegan💗💗💗
Great work. Thank you.💚💚💚
🔥💚✊ Bra jobba! Gode svar på alt som kom opp. Litt rart når indere ikke veit at plantebasert mat er billigst, men han tenkte vel mest på "plantekjøttet" når han sa det.
Takk! Ja, sant. De fleste gjør vel kanskje det når de sier dette.
Great activism! It can be challenging to hold the human supremacist mentality accountable, however it’s necessary from the victims’ perspective. ‼️🙌🙏
Thank you, Aryan. Appreciate it!
It's necessary, indeed. I always try to get better at it.
All the videos I have up are all from the same two days.
Hopefully I have even better phrasing and focus on the core message in my more recent outreaches, like two days ago.
Nice work! I like the written commentary. The issue with “acrasia-tho” carnists is that they think violating animal rights is either only a minor injustice and/or abstinence from such actions is non-obligatory. This carnist falls into both categories.
Thanks for your feedback, Nick! Appreciate it!
Great conversation! And the guy was quite open minded to the conversation. 🤗
Thanks for the feedback, Cip the swoll! Yeah, I enjoyed talking to him because I felt that open minded energy.
Thank you so much for being voice of the voice less 🎉🎉
Awesome convo!!!! LETS GO!!!
Thanks, James!!! Never stopping!
Well done!
Thank you for your feedback, Mohilini :D
Christine Rollins from Texas, USA. Innocent victim.
very nice💚🌱
It's hilarious since he keeps using false equivalency and appeal to emotion fallacies.
It shows he has nothing.
There is no healthy plants only diet for us. Show a study that says otherwise. Hint...there isn't one.
Why do you use animal products needlessly while only pretending to be against it?
I know you will evade this question again because you know a direct and factual answer makes me look good and you look bad.
@@SteversChed
docs.google.com/document/d/1x_nKQgJS79saZ7XYNxZSephsqz50Ti3RjTauw5aV3fY/edit?usp=sharing
"British Dietetic Association confirms well-planned Vegan diets can support healthy living in people of all ages."
www.bda.uk.com/resource/british-dietetic-association-confirms-well-planned-vegan-diets-can-support-healthy-living-in-people-of-all-ages.html
"A balanced vegan diet gives you all the nutrients your body needs."
- National Health Service
www.nhs.uk/live-well/eat-well/the-vegan-diet/
"A vegan diet can meet the needs of people of all ages, including children, teenagers, and pregnant or breast-feeding women."
www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/in-depth/vegetarian-diet/art-20046446
"Vegan diets are appropriate for all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, adolescence, older adulthood, and for athletes. Plant-based diets are more environmentally sustainable than diets rich in animal products because they use fewer natural resources and are associated with much less environmental damage. Vegans are at reduced risk of heart disease, type 2 diabetes, hypertension, certain types of cancer, and obesity. Low intake of saturated fat and high intakes of vegetables, fruits, whole grains, legumes, soy products, nuts, and seeds (all rich in fiber and phytochemicals) are characteristics of vegetarian and vegan diets that produce lower total and low-density lipoprotein (LDL) cholesterol levels and better serum glucose control. These factors contribute to reduction of chronic disease. Vegans need reliable sources of vitamin B-12, such as fortified foods or supplements.”
- Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics 2016
(the world's largest organization of food and nutrition experts with 100,000 registered dietitians)
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27886704/
"If properly planned, a vegan diet can provide all the nutrients you need. In general, people who don't eat meat: Weigh less than people who eat meat. Are less likely to die of heart disease. Have lower cholesterol levels. Are less likely to get: High blood pressure. Prostate cancer. Colon cancer. Type 2 diabetes. Good health could be related to a diet of mostly fruits, vegetables, and whole grains."
healthy.kaiserpermanente.org/health-wellness/health-encyclopedia/he.vegan-diet.abq2485
"Vegetarian and vegan diets can provide all the nutrients you need at any age, as well as some additional health benefits. Vegetarian diets often have lower levels of total fat, saturated fat and cholesterol than many meat-based diets, and higher intakes of fiber, magnesium, potassium, folate and antioxidants such as vitamins C and E. Vegetarian/vegan diets may lead to lower blood pressure, improved cholesterol levels, healthier weight and less incidence of Type 2 Diabetes, all of which can reduce the risk of heart disease and stroke."
www.heartandstroke.ca/healthy-living/healthy-eating/specific-diets/for-vegetarians
"Given that so many health conditions and adverse outcomes can be mitigated by a plant-based diet, and that there is rapidly-growing public interest in this diet, physicians need to be educated and ready to counsel their patients on the benefits and risks of a plant-based diet. A well-planned diet of plant-based whole foods incorporating a variety of vegetables, whole grains, nuts, and legumes can be one tool to help physicians and patients address chronic lifestyle diseases. Patients with chronic health conditions who adhere to this diet may expect to see weight loss, improvement in blood pressure and cholesterol, and reduced risk of heart disease. […] The American Heart Association and Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics now recognize that a well-planned plant-based diet is healthy and safe for most adults. Physicians should feel confident recommending such a diet to their patients.”
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8210981/
"Plant-based eating is recognized as not only nutritionally sufficient but also as a way to reduce the risk for many chronic illnesses. According to the American Dietetic Association, "appropriately planned vegetarian diets, including total vegetarian or vegan diets, are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases." […] Vegetarians/vegans are likely to have lower total and LDL (bad) cholesterol, lower blood pressure, and lower body mass index (BMI), all of which are associated with longevity and a reduced risk for many chronic diseases."
- Harvard University
www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/becoming-a-vegetarian
"Focusing on whole foods from plant sources can reduce body weight, blood pressure and risk of heart disease, cancer and diabetes - and it can make your environmental impact more sustainable."
- Stanford University
news.stanford.edu/"report/2021/05/06/embracing-plant-based-diet/
@@theVegan47 All of that and you still can't show a single "PLANTS ONLY" study?
Showing position papers based on word of mouth, studies that require synthetic supplements/fortified foods, and surveys aren't "PLANTS ONLY" studies.
You didn't answer the question either...no surprise there.
Thanks for the easy win and your concession since you can't show a "PLANTS ONLY" study and evaded the question.
Good man ! You're building up your subs !!
Thanks for preparing those vids btw !
Thank you for your support! Appreciate it.
Was recently in Amsterdam. More videos comings soon.
I symbolically respect you - said every serial killer ever 😂😂😂. Seriously tho, great outreach. Be kind, be vegan. ❤
You use animal products just like everyone else here.
Why are you telling others to do what you're unwilling to do yourself?
Why do you use animal products needlessly (that means possible and practicable to avoid) while only pretending to be against it?
Keep going 🎉🎉
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My take is there is no such thing as the right to live. To be more precise, I do not believe in any form of human or animal rights. The problem though is we can make agreements with other humans based on the non-aggression principle, but animals pose a technical issue because they do not understand the nature of contracts. Basically, you cannot approach a lion and say "I won't attack you if you do not attack me." Based on this, the cruelty you exert on an animal when you are hungry is justified because they would do the same to you if they could.
So if there's a human who doesn't understand contracts it's okay to unalive them?
Just want vegans to know that after 2 years of a plant based diet I did my own n=1 study and corrected the following health problems with only diet, no supplements or exercise:
obesity, prediabetes, loose teeth, bleeding gums, sensitive teeth
cold sores, blocked sinuses, mouth breathing, left eye twitches (tetany)
heartburn, calf cramps, yellow stool, blood in stool
edema below the knees, painful feet when walking, sunburn is less
shoulder, back and neck pain after waking, lower back pain and stiffness
5+ Years on the carnivore lifestyle now :)
Eat Meat, Not Too Little, Mostly Fat
"British Dietetic Association confirms well-planned Vegan diets can support healthy living in people of all ages."
www.bda.uk.com/resource/british-dietetic-association-confirms-well-planned-vegan-diets-can-support-healthy-living-in-people-of-all-ages.html
"A balanced vegan diet gives you all the nutrients your body needs."
- National Health Service
www.nhs.uk/live-well/eat-well/the-vegan-diet/
"A vegan diet can meet the needs of people of all ages, including children, teenagers, and pregnant or breast-feeding women."
www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/in-depth/vegetarian-diet/art-20046446
"Vegan diets are appropriate for all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, adolescence, older adulthood, and for athletes. Plant-based diets are more environmentally sustainable than diets rich in animal products because they use fewer natural resources and are associated with much less environmental damage. Vegans are at reduced risk of heart disease, type 2 diabetes, hypertension, certain types of cancer, and obesity. Low intake of saturated fat and high intakes of vegetables, fruits, whole grains, legumes, soy products, nuts, and seeds (all rich in fiber and phytochemicals) are characteristics of vegetarian and vegan diets that produce lower total and low-density lipoprotein (LDL) cholesterol levels and better serum glucose control. These factors contribute to reduction of chronic disease. Vegans need reliable sources of vitamin B-12, such as fortified foods or supplements.”
- Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics 2016
(the world's largest organization of food and nutrition experts with 100,000 registered dietitians)
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27886704/
"If properly planned, a vegan diet can provide all the nutrients you need. In general, people who don't eat meat: Weigh less than people who eat meat. Are less likely to die of heart disease. Have lower cholesterol levels. Are less likely to get: High blood pressure. Prostate cancer. Colon cancer. Type 2 diabetes. Good health could be related to a diet of mostly fruits, vegetables, and whole grains."
healthy.kaiserpermanente.org/health-wellness/health-encyclopedia/he.vegan-diet.abq2485
"Vegetarian and vegan diets can provide all the nutrients you need at any age, as well as some additional health benefits. Vegetarian diets often have lower levels of total fat, saturated fat and cholesterol than many meat-based diets, and higher intakes of fiber, magnesium, potassium, folate and antioxidants such as vitamins C and E. Vegetarian/vegan diets may lead to lower blood pressure, improved cholesterol levels, healthier weight and less incidence of Type 2 Diabetes, all of which can reduce the risk of heart disease and stroke."
www.heartandstroke.ca/healthy-living/healthy-eating/specific-diets/for-vegetarians
"Given that so many health conditions and adverse outcomes can be mitigated by a plant-based diet, and that there is rapidly-growing public interest in this diet, physicians need to be educated and ready to counsel their patients on the benefits and risks of a plant-based diet. A well-planned diet of plant-based whole foods incorporating a variety of vegetables, whole grains, nuts, and legumes can be one tool to help physicians and patients address chronic lifestyle diseases. Patients with chronic health conditions who adhere to this diet may expect to see weight loss, improvement in blood pressure and cholesterol, and reduced risk of heart disease. […] The American Heart Association and Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics now recognize that a well-planned plant-based diet is healthy and safe for most adults. Physicians should feel confident recommending such a diet to their patients.”
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8210981/
"Plant-based eating is recognized as not only nutritionally sufficient but also as a way to reduce the risk for many chronic illnesses. According to the American Dietetic Association, "appropriately planned vegetarian diets, including total vegetarian or vegan diets, are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases." […] Vegetarians/vegans are likely to have lower total and LDL (bad) cholesterol, lower blood pressure, and lower body mass index (BMI), all of which are associated with longevity and a reduced risk for many chronic diseases."
- Harvard University
www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/becoming-a-vegetarian
"Focusing on whole foods from plant sources can reduce body weight, blood pressure and risk of heart disease, cancer and diabetes - and it can make your environmental impact more sustainable."
- Stanford University
news.stanford.edu/"report/2021/05/06/embracing-plant-based-diet/
@@theVegan47 Some of those sources have retracted their statements or no longer espouse them.
I know all of the crap I healed when eating only meat so proved to myself that most of the "nutrition science" is all lies and religion rather than actual science.
I healed these, most within 1 year
obesity, prediabetes, loose teeth, bleeding gums, sensitive teeth
cold sores, blocked sinuses, mouth breathing, left eye twitches (tetany)
heartburn, calf cramps, yellow stool, blood in stool
edema below the knees, painful feet when walking, sunburn is less
shoulder, back and neck pain after waking, lower back pain and stiffness
@@theVegan47 Not a single one of those is a plants only study.
They all include animal products, synthetic supplements, and/or processed fortified foods.
Expired position papers that don't have any studies, open surveys that try to pass themselves off as studies, biased studies, and retracted studies that remain on the internet don't show a plants only study is healthy.
There isn't a healthy plants only study.
Why do you use animal products needlessly while only pretending to be against it?
" but its not easy enough yet"........."but Im not disciplined enough" ........"have to wait for prices to change"................. couldnt be easier.......resources and products everywhere........just lame arse excuses buddy! Watch Dominion and go vegan old son!
You use animal products needlessly from the same animals...
What's your excuse?
@@SteversChed - which products would they be? 😂😂😂😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡🤡
@@davidformosa7626 Tallow, gelatin, bones...
Many things are made with animal products.
Asphalt, some types of money, motor vehicles, electronics with processors, some housing materials, etc...
How did you needlessly reply without using something with a processor? Smoke signals?
You evaded the question...I'll bet your excuse is "it's okay because of a doctrine." or something like that.
@@SteversChed
1. How do you know someone uses tallow and gelatin? Vegans avoid those products in regular consumer items.
2. When it comes to the rest. Firstly, if you have, I would like to see proof of which animal products are in which of these items you mention and if it is like that everywhere. I would appreciate it. No vegan is an expert in know what everything is made of, so education is always good.
3. Granted some of the things you mentioned. (I know for example that the baby chicks macerated alive are sometimes used in concrete.)
These things exist and are they way they are because non-vegans view animals are resources, not because of vegans. How can we live practically in civilization without using roads? We need to demand an animal free society in all areas, indeed. Right now we are far away from that, but it's changing because of good people changing.
Veganism is not a set of practices, but a principle.
4. Still, these things do not dictate that we have to look at animals as resources and live accordingly the best we can in this current carnistic world.
They also don't dictate that you or others have to participate in all the other easily avoidable areas of exploitation of animals.
This is a typical appeal to hypocrisy fallacy. If you are vegan, however, it's a fair conversation and I'd be happy to figure things out with you on how we can deal with this.
And even if we benefit or use facilities where non-vegans have put animal products, we can always use existing (second hand) than creating a demand for more.
This will also apply for the exploitation and even death of humans. A lot of humans die in production of items, buildings, infrastructure, traffic etc.
@@theVegan47 Companies disclose a public material list. I have tried linking it but it never goes through so you need to look yourself.
The difference is using them "needlessly."
Second hand is irrelevant and you know it.
YT servers aren't second hand, are made with animal products, and you're still here.
Thanks for the easy win and your concession since you just evade facts you don't like.
1. If you want go 100% like this guy, then you should abstain from medical drugs und procedures testet on animals for you and your family, right?
2. Plant based is healthy, but not vegan. There is a reason, why eggs and meat, cheese ect. is so tasty and makes us feel good and many people who abstain from it have cravings.
3. You would have to end the "slavery" (his term) and "prisons" of all pets, where they are the toys, have to do whatever theirs "masters" want them to do.
4. He didn´t bring any valid argument against animal products.
1. 100% vegan means you adopt the mindset that non-human animals are not here for you to use. You stop seeing them as resources, slaves or commodities for human use and act accordingly as best as possible. If in an edge case you need to do something for your survival and basic health, you do what you have to do - just like in situations with humans. If a human attacks you, you can justify even taking their life.
Unfortunately, we live in a carnistic (non-vegan) world where most systems are based on exploiting animals. We can change this, but we need incentives for it.
2. What do you mean plant based is healthy, not Vegan? Eating 100% plant based is a result of the Vegan ethical principle.
The reason why is seasoning, preparation, fat and salt content etc. Still irrelevant. We have to look at proper science, health outcome data and not pseudoscience.
I will link to health sources at the end.
3. Veganism is against the use of animals in any way - including pets etc.
4. Do you think it's ok for someone to exploit you and your family? To turn you into products?
If you say that it's your life and body, not anyone else's and that you have a preference to not be used, harmed etc. You just made a reasonable argument. And that applies to other species as well. We are similar to them in all the ways that matter.
SOURCES FOR HEALTH ON A PLANT BASED DIET:
"British Dietetic Association confirms well-planned Vegan diets can support healthy living in people of all ages."
www.bda.uk.com/resource/british-dietetic-association-confirms-well-planned-vegan-diets-can-support-healthy-living-in-people-of-all-ages.html
"A balanced vegan diet gives you all the nutrients your body needs."
- National Health Service
www.nhs.uk/live-well/eat-well/the-vegan-diet/
"A vegan diet can meet the needs of people of all ages, including children, teenagers, and pregnant or breast-feeding women."
www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/in-depth/vegetarian-diet/art-20046446
"Vegan diets are appropriate for all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, adolescence, older adulthood, and for athletes. Plant-based diets are more environmentally sustainable than diets rich in animal products because they use fewer natural resources and are associated with much less environmental damage. Vegans are at reduced risk of heart disease, type 2 diabetes, hypertension, certain types of cancer, and obesity. Low intake of saturated fat and high intakes of vegetables, fruits, whole grains, legumes, soy products, nuts, and seeds (all rich in fiber and phytochemicals) are characteristics of vegetarian and vegan diets that produce lower total and low-density lipoprotein (LDL) cholesterol levels and better serum glucose control. These factors contribute to reduction of chronic disease. Vegans need reliable sources of vitamin B-12, such as fortified foods or supplements.”
- Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics 2016
(the world's largest organization of food and nutrition experts with 100,000 registered dietitians)
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27886704/
"If properly planned, a vegan diet can provide all the nutrients you need. In general, people who don't eat meat: Weigh less than people who eat meat. Are less likely to die of heart disease. Have lower cholesterol levels. Are less likely to get: High blood pressure. Prostate cancer. Colon cancer. Type 2 diabetes. Good health could be related to a diet of mostly fruits, vegetables, and whole grains."
healthy.kaiserpermanente.org/health-wellness/health-encyclopedia/he.vegan-diet.abq2485
"Vegetarian and vegan diets can provide all the nutrients you need at any age, as well as some additional health benefits. Vegetarian diets often have lower levels of total fat, saturated fat and cholesterol than many meat-based diets, and higher intakes of fiber, magnesium, potassium, folate and antioxidants such as vitamins C and E. Vegetarian/vegan diets may lead to lower blood pressure, improved cholesterol levels, healthier weight and less incidence of Type 2 Diabetes, all of which can reduce the risk of heart disease and stroke."
www.heartandstroke.ca/healthy-living/healthy-eating/specific-diets/for-vegetarians
"Given that so many health conditions and adverse outcomes can be mitigated by a plant-based diet, and that there is rapidly-growing public interest in this diet, physicians need to be educated and ready to counsel their patients on the benefits and risks of a plant-based diet. A well-planned diet of plant-based whole foods incorporating a variety of vegetables, whole grains, nuts, and legumes can be one tool to help physicians and patients address chronic lifestyle diseases. Patients with chronic health conditions who adhere to this diet may expect to see weight loss, improvement in blood pressure and cholesterol, and reduced risk of heart disease. […] The American Heart Association and Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics now recognize that a well-planned plant-based diet is healthy and safe for most adults. Physicians should feel confident recommending such a diet to their patients.”
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8210981/
"Plant-based eating is recognized as not only nutritionally sufficient but also as a way to reduce the risk for many chronic illnesses. According to the American Dietetic Association, "appropriately planned vegetarian diets, including total vegetarian or vegan diets, are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases." […] Vegetarians/vegans are likely to have lower total and LDL (bad) cholesterol, lower blood pressure, and lower body mass index (BMI), all of which are associated with longevity and a reduced risk for many chronic diseases."
- Harvard University
www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/becoming-a-vegetarian
"Focusing on whole foods from plant sources can reduce body weight, blood pressure and risk of heart disease, cancer and diabetes - and it can make your environmental impact more sustainable."
- Stanford University
news.stanford.edu/"report/2021/05/06/embracing-plant-based-diet/
@@theVegan47 1. Just for clarifying: would you or would you not abstain from conventional medical treatment for you and your closest? Since western medicine is based on research done on animals (on exploitation and suffering of animals) , that would the right thing do. As I’m concerned I use all means to make my and the life of my closest better.
1. The majority of physicians (including my doc) do not recommend neither a pure vegan diet nor other extreme diets. My friends who were vegans stoppt while being pregnant and don´t apply it to their children, since their physicians advised them do so due to problems, including having depressions. The problems were solved after going back to a balanced diet. So are our physicians wrong?
3. That would mean it’s better for the pets not having a life/not to exist in a good home, being loved and protected and having a better life then their relives in the wild, since their are treated when their sick, protected from predators, experience no starvation and have therefore a much higher life expectancy? So you are arguing against the increase of pleasure/happiness in the world! Btw this must be your interpretation of veganism, since I know 2 vegans, one with 2 cats, the other with a dog.
4. In nature there is no law, no rules. Animals try and even have to „exploit“ other animals, humans included. This „exploitation“ is the core of life, no nature is possible without it. Or do you suggest we should stop the „mass-murdering“, the „war“ in the nature? How about stoping the predators from killing? We set the rules, and all that are human constructs. And the basic rule is humans first. So yes, to minimise suffering is good as much as possible
5. What’s wrong with having cattle on a pasture, or chickens running around and taking their products without (or with minimal) suffering? In the wild this animals would suffer much more from predators (being eaten alive is no fun), parasites and starvation and have a lower life expectancy. What is the moral argument against it?
6. Do you know how many animals die in the production of corn and other products? Gazillion animals build their nests in the fields each year or hide there when the fields are harvested. To my knowledge till now there no vegans harvesting the field by hand in order to make sure their food is harvested without „murder“.
So many appeals to emotion, false equivalences, and guilt tripping.
It's hilarious.
Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment while only pretending to be against it?
My bet, you won't answer directly and factually.
Name the false equivalences.
I try to make people connect with the victims and see it from their perspective in order to motivate empathy and understanding. To make them understanding that if it was them in that position, they would want their oppressors to stop. At the same time I make the objective case that they are individuals with preferences and a will to be free from exploitation. It's their life and their body. Those are the same reasons why we shouldn't exploit humans. We are similar in the ways that matter. Not recognizing that is ignorant and/or speciesist.
How am I using animal products needlessly for entertainment? What do you mean?
@@theVegan47 Comparing livestock and humans is an appeal to emotion and false equivalency.
Looks like I won the bet since you didn't answer directly or factually.
Many things are made with animal products.
Asphalt, some types of money, motor vehicles, electronics with processors, some housing materials, etc...
How did you needlessly reply without using something with a processor? Smoke signals?
Thanks for the easy win and your concession since you evaded the question and will continue evading the question.
@@SteversChedyou don't understand what those phrases mean 🤦♂️
@@rupert909 You replied to the wrong person.
I know they are logical fallacies and that he used them.
Can't answer the fact based question either?
Neither could he....
@@SteversChed you just call everything a logical fallacy lmao...
"comparing livestock to humans is an appeal to emotion and false equivalence"
a comparison is NOT an equivalence... Nor is it an appeal to emotion. It's a comparison. You can compare literally any two things and not commit a fallacy.
What "fact based question"? 😂