Ford Ranger: EGR cooler failures | Auto Expert John Cadogan
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EGR blanking plate conveniently blocks coolant too btw, even if it's illegal
it fixed mine
Did you use both plate blockers, or just the single one
Built-in engine exploder before 100000THOUSAND kms..........great its a typical shit box ford.
Hi John, A few Months ago a couple from NSW were driving near Harcourt Vic, With their 26Ft aluminum shitwah on tow. Going up hill on a blind corner the engine went poopy in pants. I towed them to Castlemaine. I gave them some contact numbers in Bendigo, where I knew they would be helped without theft. anyway they decided to have the car taken back home. When I left I said if you have time ring me and let me know what the issue was. They rang me a few weeks later. $6000.00 for the tow back to Sydney. (not by us) and $15,000.00 for a short motor changeover. The EGR had failed. No water no oil going up hill under load, and no warning.
That was really good advice you gave to change the EGR at 80,000 k's before the thing shits itself.
Thats the sort of info they should (but wont) put in the service manual. Like.. Second set of tyres change the EGR. 🙂 Regards Peter. Williams Towing Bendigo.
I worked for a company that ran Isuzu, and everyone without fail, the AC failed. Some had turbo issues. Nearly all the Auto gearboxes were problematic. The dealer tried to help but basically the standard answer from IUA was piss off that's not warranty.
that's not good for business. its normally the dealers that are the problem.
for comparison i brought new a 2015 vw amarok, 1st service i got a headlight (made by hella) replaced because high beam was pointing up in the trees.
2nd service 30k i let them know reverse gear had a humming noise. (ZF 8 speed auto, common issue in bmw as well) the service manager said "there wont be anything wrong with that gearbox"
I said all im asking you to do is put a apprentice mechanic inside the ute, lift it up on the hoist and the head mechanic will tell him to put in in reverse and apply and release the brakes to hear the noise, if its noise A no issue, noise B the gearbox will go back to ZF.
the service manager said "well it this needs a gearbox i want in done in our workshop" rang me up an hour later and said yes in needs a gearbox and it will be here tomorrow if your willing to leave the ute.
I said ill book it in a few weeks time as i know its not going to fail but i could in a years time.
then at 3 years 200k i asked about the headlight that was previously replaced as its glass (plastic) was cracking badly (looked like it was smashed at night)
I said Its no longer roadworthy.
they had a look at said yes you should of said something earlier.
so they ended up replacing both headlight with the updated units (non hella).
better lights and they still look new 4 years later.
they also replaced the VW badge because it was pealing at the same time.
but I did have 1 warranty issue never fixed and that was a small part of the front bumper lost its paint the 1st time i washed it, its never gotten worse but it would of been nice to get it fixed.
the ute has never broken down or had any recalls.
Hahaha there's a reason why the AC compressor is on its own belt
The best thing to do if you have a 3.2 ranger or bt50 regardless if your EGR cooler has failed or not is to simply delete it from the powertrain. Cut it out like a cancer, a bad appendix, or tonsils. It's a crap component that does more harm than good. I blocked the EGR cooler off, bypassed the coolant lines, and also blocked off my egr valve on my 2014 BT50 when I noticed it slowly started losing coolant. I've never looked back since.
Is it beneficial for someone buying used to simply replace the EGR regardless as a precaution
@@positivepete4265 Honestly, if you're going to the effort of replacing it as a precaution you're better of eliminating it altogether. The reason is 1. it's a laborious task to fix and 2. Most rangers/bt50's that have popped engines are because of failed egr coolers or buggered injectors, mostly the former. From a financial, and reliability perspective it's worth doing. You have to determine if emissions compliance is worth more than the reliability of your vehicle. For me it's not.
@@turbostyler 100% not worth more, considering we're not Europe either. Lol. So if I'm on the market for a used ranger you reckon first thing to be safe is delete the egr
@@positivepete4265 I would. I think with the later models you program the ecu to not throw codes if you block the egr. But it's also important to bypass the coolant lines as well to prevent any coolant loss from any corrosion that should occur within the EGR cooler.
I had egr bloked and car tuned now i loose power intermitantly some time no code no engine cheque light turnt engine of for 5 turn it back on and its good to go
My 2013 BT50 (same motor) lasted until just over 300,000 kms before the EGR cooler started to lose coolant.
I waited 9 months for a new Hilux , so it was check every week the coolant level and top up.
In the last month before launching it off to the dealer as a trade in it was losing 1 litre a week of coolant.
Happy Days .
Absolute legend
Great advice on the EGR coolers John. In the heavy earthmoving world we see 2 main causes of EGR cooler failures. 1 is air pockets in the cooler when the coolant is re placed this causes the internals to melt down and can be avoided by only vacuum filling the cooling system. 2 is vibration causing the internals to crack usually after higher periods of service, replace before failure is the only fix we have found for this one and OEM's who have re designed the cooler. 👍
Ford Ranger 3.2 is a TERRIBLE truck dobt own but work on them a lot
The egr valve is a poor design as a small bearing seizes and falls out
Replacing the bearing is possible but the angle you refit the egr is very important
@@whitefox9 The 2.0 litre biturbo is even worse
@@BubblesTheCat1 show evidence, or is it just hearsay.
@@oldbloke100 It's a well known fact.
@@BubblesTheCat1 in other words, no evidence, just BS.
When are you doing the Kia Hyundai recalls including towbar wiring harness fires and exploding seat belts amongst others, quarter of a million recalls and still you crap on about Ford.🤡🤯
Why do Elephants have Big Ears ?
Cause Noddy won’t pay the Ransom.
🤣🤣🤣
😂. Good one!
I don't get it 😕 😐 😒 😪
@@BoleDaPole I assume Noddy and Big Ears weren’t part of your childhood then.
I wouldn’t be surprised if some of these comments like ‘I’ve had my Isuzu for ten years, towed max gvm/gcm everday and not a problem’ are people employed by the company to spruik those lies in comment sections on various platforms. Really looking forward to my hearing at VCAT next month and putting it out there on the webs. 5 years ownership on my Dmax has cost $25,000 in repairs and Isuzu refused to cover $20k under warranty… Serviced every 10,000km.
They sell what is to most people their 2nd largest asset, but you'd get better treatment if you'd bought a toaster from Target.
I wish you the best of luck at VCAT mate. You won't need luck i'm sure you have the evidence so you will be on a winner.
@@markwilkinson3048 thank you! 🤞🏻
@@GreenDistantStar haha, totally
Done 150k in my v80 ldv van driven were I probably shouldn't.
After some flood water that did cost me about 6k. But other than that. The paper Dragon van isn't that bad. Compared to over priced rebadged Chinese vehicles.
The EGR failed on my Amarok. Dumped all the water out the exhaust system.... so there's no visible evidence your radiator is been sucked dry .... Thankfully I was warned by dashboard alarm that shit was turning south and my coolant level was low.
Naturally VW nz were total tossers about the whole thing, Acted shocked and surprised that a 40,000 km vehicle had shit itself so badly and proceeded to charge me a fortune to fix it.(outside warranty ) A year later the gearbox failed. Drove it to ford.... Traded it on a new 3.2 Ranger and haven't looked back.
Keep up the great work John.
Series 1 PX manual was full of cheap Chinese bearings.....huge failure rate...I know I had one...6 years of trouble free car.....then absolute detest for the lemon...
NX pajero....never looked back
Hi John, I've really been enjoying your more recent RUclips videos. They seem much more technical and give you the opportunity to use your deep engineering knowledge and understanding to clear up some of the motor vehicle misconceptions many of us have. Entertaining and educational.
Thanks John.
You mean John the engineer, not John the theologian🤣🤣 (I agree 100%)
A little over a year ago, FCA (now even more $#!^ Stellantis) slapped new EGR coolers on US and Canadian 2nd generation ecodiesels (v6 3.0L). The EGR is a plague on diesel engine longevity.
Ford had a horrendous problem in the US and Canada in the early to mid 2000’s with the F series 6.0 V8 diesel. The water cooled EGR and water cooled oil cooler were both failing at right around 100K miles which coincidentally is when the warranty expired. Fords next endeavor was the twin turbo 6.4 V8, a much bigger disaster than the 6.0.
Found On Rubbish Dump .
Fucked On Race Day.
The Toyota 70 series, 1 cup holder but it'll get you there and back for years to come
Pretty agricultural to drive but tow with ease
Getting mine replaced under warranty 75000Km. I've kept an eye on the oil, coolant & etc since new. I noticed in the past month the reservoir was dropping about 5ml per fortnight, I took it in for it's 75k service & mentioned it to my dealer. When I picked the car up they booked me in for a replacement EGR cooler under warranty no questions asked.
My 2013 ranger's egr cracked at 150000km. Just before it completely failed it was like a steam train going up the street
Hi John, I think you have missed he real problem with the EGR in the Ranger. When the cooler fails the coolant goes into the turbo (not onto the ground) and many things can happen, head gaskets and bent rods to name but two.
coolant flows into the combustion chamber causing hydrostatic lock.. the force behind the pistons moving upward can bend connecting rods, crack the crankshaft, cause fractures in the cylinder walls, etc.
Who can remember the first Isuzu KB 250/280's that came out about twenty years ago? Those noisy clacking ute's. We've got several of those here in South Africa still running happily with more than a million km's on the odo... Those were the days. You could fix and rebuild that engine with ease as well. Pump and injectors type ☺☺☺👍👍👍
Yeah,they were truck engines,simple and rugged that Isuzu built,now everyone wants a 12" screen,I thought supposed to be driving not distracted by a bloody TV in the thing...
@@geoffbell166 100 % agree. And to boot it all most of those in car entertainment systems are poor quality as well. I just mount an Android tablet on my dashboard if I really need a big screen to navigate. Which is rather seldom. Music from my stereo system in the car is way better on the open road as well, as my eyes can be on the road. Where they should be.
Dumb question: If it's bad to downshift on an automatic ("brake pads are cheaper than transmissions"), what do paddle shifters do differently (other than run through the higher speeds)?
Not "dumb" at all.
My Ranger downshift automatically, if I brake going down a hill it will downshift
@@peterbrowning1251 Yeah my Prado has radar cruise control and often when it closes in on a slower vehicle it will first drop a gear to slow down before it starts braking.
modern auto's this is not a problem, old ones can overheat.
if the torque converter stays locked then it wont be an issue.
lots of Toyotas even newer ones unlock the torque converter as soon as you take your foot off the throttle
Every second person I know owns a diesel ute/dual cab of one brand or another the only ones that have had motors blow up have been Ford's ( 3 that I know of )
Just switch the stupid EGR off with a harness module that plugs into the MAF sensor. I did it,and my 2012 BT 50 loves it. Do this and check how clean the engine oil stays after you change it. All the EGR gunk stays out of your intake. I dont buy the volumetric jibber. In my books there is no way hot and dirty exhaust should go into your inlet manifold. Give your whole intake system a good clean, including the intercooler.I binned the poxy plastic Ford one,and fitted a bigger tig welded aluminum unit.Still has original turbo.Running 3inch exhaust from turbo. Engine now keeps making power under load,before it would fall away. Just my personal experience owning the vehicle 10 years.
Still will fail eventually. But your on the right track
@@jasonh6475 can you explain how the egr cooler can still fail "eventually" even with a delete module connected. Since it is "Thermal stress - EGR coolers can exhibit cracking or warping thanks to repeated cycling of extreme temperatures. The cooler is subjected to exhaust gas which can reach 800°C which is then cooled down to around 200°C. Over time it can damage the cooler and cause leaks or complete failure. The egr delete module cable stops those heat cycles .
@@ageraRable even though the EGR isn’t cycling anymore the element or core is still operating as per usual with exposure to exhaust gas and coolant and will fail as per usual.
Take that module out ASAP all it does is tell the intake temp it's at 0° all the time so the egr valve stayes closed thinking it's running cold, your car will run rich, use more fuel and won't be able to tell u if there is a failure, just blank it and turn off the program via re mapping
Dmax the most overrated ute available.
Ive had 2 now one of which also had an egr cooler failure the other an auto failure.
I have 3 ranger 3.2s in my company and besides a small rubber cooling hose failure on one, nothing else besides regular servicing.
Might also mention the enormous amount of dmax cracking engine bay panels that Isuzu are happy to blame on anything besides their own engineering shortfalls
Previous gen dmax is where the name comes from, anything after 2017 has turned to shit.
@@tonybruce the older ones with five speed auto, were know for failing at about 150k kms, were very expensive to replace.
I've had a ranger now back to toyota.ill be staying with toyota for good.tuff and reliable. But that's my opinion
Yep mine went last week in my 2019 Raptor 92K on the clock. I suspect it had been going for a while but they could never replicate the problem in a 2min drive around the block. Lucky for me its under warranty. Unlucky for me they dont have parts and no eta. Ford Australia have arranged a ute for until parts arrive. The kicker is its a HiLux🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yep, we have those failures here in the UK 🇬🇧
It still amazes me, after all your videos about similar subjects, people still insist on pushing their vehicles to the limit and don't expect a consequence. Absolutely astonishing considering, even in most operators manuals I have ever read, the manufacturer actually states that any extra stress requires more frequent maintenance. It's alarming people don't understand such a basic principal.
That’s not how they market them though .. that’s buried deep in the 309 page owners manual
When it goes, it goes
So better buy a Hilux? And what about the new Ranger Raptor? Solid one or also coming with problems?
The tools around him seems still very unused, shiny and new… just saying…
Or, maybe John is just clean freak.
the "man-cave" always needs shiny tools on display - - just sayin'.
John's "Fat cave" is his studio for videos. I think it serves the purpose well and even a regularly used implement isn't necessarily going to show up as dirty, especially in a video. Besides, John's an engineer, not a motor mechanic.
Better to have it an not need it than need it an not have it
Can't win in this world, if he had a wall of rust he'd be told to take better care of them.
Think about how long it takes a "weekender" to put the same number of hours on his tools as someone that doing it full time would do in a week.
Here's the problem if talking about a Ford Ranger or Everest. Firstly, you don't make it clear if you are talking about the EGR valve or cooler or both ?
I spoke with a Ford manager and he said he has NEVER heard of anyone swapping an EGR valve or cooler as preventative maintenance.
He also said that they need to disconnect and drop the transmission in order to get to the cooler. It's at the back of the engine block.
Total time 8 hours. Total cost $2,000.00 - supply and fit.
Nupe - I wait for it to fail. Thanks.
NB: Currently drive a Ford Everest Titanium with 166,000km on it. Zero issues (John likes to hammer Fords - go figure).
I have a 2017 3.2L ranger with over 215,000km on it and can’t fault the car or engine. Regularly towing 3.5t (occasionally more) up steep hills on the Hume and I can still sit on 110km/h all the way.
Done a few mods that add to power and reliability while keeping the block cooler.
1) Unifilter bolts straight in
2) Snorkel to get cooler air
3) replaced tiny Oem inter cooler to a PWR unit (almost 3 inches thick and just fits width wise
4) Full turbo back stainless exhaust to expel hot exhaust gas better
5)Replace GT20 turbo with a GT25
6)Full tune on Dyno
7) throttle controller
The ford service manager always takes it for a spin and can’t believe how much grunt it has but still remain drivable. Don’t see myself ever selling it…
Might be time for old mate to get a proper Isuzu like an NPR, or maybe a Mitsubishi Fuso. At least then the 6 ton won’t be an issue.
Agreed. He needs to gender-non-specifically man up and buy a truck. And this doesn’t mean a RAM or Silverado.
But not with a 4jj1
Too true. Also AdBlue problems and shit support from Ford. Sold and purchased 300 series.
Question, I have heard the 5 cylinder is a bored out reincarnated land Rover TD5 that ford acquired when ford owed land Rover. Does anyone know if this is true?
Nah, if it was it would not fail. i have a TD5 with 243.000 km runs like the first day, injectors are fine, does not burn oil. only a little leakage of transfer case fluid.
Yep had that failed at 125km. Lucky I caught it as I noticed the coolant level was dropping really quickly. Ford replaced it for free even it was out of warranty
Why people don't get a nice sedan or a sports coupe and use a motel is beyond me.
Style & comfort
When you get to retire, and can spend months travelling rather than a stolen long weekend, you will probably begin to understand why caravans become the preferred choice :).
@@nobody6056 I retired at 43 and live on a houseboat. People always assume so much. Yolo
@@grantleyhugheslove it 👍
Our work shop is kept very busy with ranger failures, will be interesting to see how next gen goes🤦🏻
Hopefully shit, so your work shop can keep making money 💰
@@rfmonkey4942 if he's a dealer he makes stuff all, Ford pays a dealer about half the time it actually takes to replace, it isn't good business.
Thanks John. Mine just went on my Everest at 130k. I was mislead by my mechanic telling me the massive white smoke was a diesel filter burn off. I kept loosing coolant and found someone who diagnosed it straight away. Keeping fingers crossed I haven't done a head gasket. Cheers Ron
In the UK it's either EGR failure or oil pump failure from about 50k miles that kills the 2.2 and 3.2 the most. Many of us here are still driving the earlier Mazda-built Ford Rangers which are generally excellent and manage 200k miles without issue.
The mind boggles that oil pumps fail at 50k? I will stick with my Japanese imported Land Cruiser, 180'000 miles and still has good oil pressure.
Ford never cease to amaze me that they seem to f*ck up basic components that where perfected decades ago.
Having said that, what is Ford stating for oil changes on the Ranger.
@@harveysmith100my landcruiser has 395,000 and I’ve had it for 25 years. Starts in half a crank in heat or snow. Full oil pressure. They built them to last and more importantly, reliable and maintainable
hey john i love your videos
but have you seen where the egr cooler is ?
buried at the back of the engine, easiest way to replace it is to remove the transmission
what a joke.
i had one today one of the heater hoses was leaking. couldn’t replace it because the other end went to the egr cooler so i had to cut and join it up
told the owner to rebook the car in when i had more time to remove the transmission just to replace a hose.
i would never own a ranger typical euro shit.
You can replace the egr with out removing the transmission .If your handy with the tools, I just done it in the drive way, yes not easy I'd say a c of a job but can do.I will say if your good with tools and not a day job with out a hoist.
The hose ..if you take the wipers off and then all the black plastic cowling you will be able to get to the hose..
I bought a new turbo diesel Craptiva in 2013, 37k km later (within the 3 year warranty period) the EGR cooler failed . Holden denied the warranty claim
My 2012 PX1 5 cyl cooler went in 2017. At 210,000kms
I had it deleted and didn't have an issue until 300,000kms where an injector miss fired and put a hole in a piston.
Apparently a 15year old 470nm diesel is worth 10k. Im not paying that. Ill LS or Barra swap it before paying any rediculous diesel replacement
Not sure this is a Ford-specific thing. The EGR system (and swirl motor) in the Mercedes motors is infamously poor as well. The only real fix is to physically bypass or software delete it.
I've seen many 3.2 Rangers come through my workshop with the EGR cooler issue. Also plenty of DIY guys that didn't know about the issue with drain time when changing oil and they end up destroying it. Terribly designed engine.
People will insist on buying Fords... Diesel ones at that.
John ...Goss makes a aftermarket one ,which has a different design inside the egr tube..
Mmm....just had a look at this. A stainless one.....pretty cheap though compared to the original. Would like to hear from people who have had this version fitted.
I like even numbers of cylinders except in my chainsaw.
Five cylinders is the best number for dynamic balance. Five cylinders should give the smoothest most reliable engines. I think that theory fell apart with Ford.
Hi J - any risk in going for an aftermarket cooler as a replacement?
That’s sad to hear about Isuzu. Our family had two back in the early 90’s and it didn’t matter what we threw at them, they still kept going and working hard.
@@New_Zealand_ 😲😳. Far out.
Who on this earth would buy a sh-------t box FORD. Ford never stands by it's product's they make it cheap and then cheaper that they fail with no support. I would ensure you have paid your due's to the BIG Man above and pray every time you put the key to start the thing. God bless you
Ok - so are there any better aftermarket egr coolers out there for the Ranger ?
Goss has a aftermarket one,and inside has a different design to oem
It is a "thing" I own an automotive workshop and we see the "thing" quite often. But many of these big engine repairs, and its a head off job to fix, are covered when someone has an aftermarket warranty.
Another great vid John, again you give the motoring public reasoning and clarity on important issues that the manufacturers dare not comment on but in my diesel mechanic opinion, the EGR system's purpose is to reduce, well, mainly oxides of nitrogen coming out the tail pipe which causes smog and damages human lungs. So the idea is there but sadly sometimes the engineering quality just isn't (especially in this case) but the notion of the EGR system as a volumetric efficiency increaser (and manufacturers of course do say this) is basically bullshit. The turbo charger was solely created for this purpose. It's not very "efficient" to partially fill a cylinder with an inert gas which contains very little in the way of oxygen therefore reducing it's ability to support combustion. The manufacturers know this but they continually come up with this "positive spin bullshit" to make it sound like, well, a positive derivement of this system. The positive is cleaner air for us all to breathe but it in no possible way contributes to better engine "efficiency". This is only done by as near to complete cylinder filling as possible by cool, oxygen enriched air. Keep up the good work John, the automotive nuts need you!
They spend all the money for an intercooler to cool the air from the turbo, then shoot themselves in the ass by putting in exhaust gas! Lets cool it down! I'd love to see the boffins research. Wow, cools down 10*c!! awesome lets put it in!
I used to grumble about you but I’ve become a fan…. must check my tablets
A V8 petrol Patrol is starting to look good.
No replacement for displacement
To drop the kids off at school
@@paulmcintosh5589except the fuel cost
Its all the catch cans faults for these issues, never the weight being towed. . Never install them and you could tow double all day long without one. Bloody catch cans.
How do catch cans contribute to "all these issues"?
They bloody do aye
i was down at my brother in laws place, he had a person ask if he could see if he could sort it out. It had only 400km on the clock, it was a new Isuzu.
Isuzu Turbo issues just as bad at the moment! lol
I wouldn't have a ranger/raptor crapbox even if you held a gun to my head. Isuzu not much better.
Rangers last 180k... That's it. Ford learnt from the au/ba falcon... If you make a vehicle too reliable, people don't need to buy a new one often
I've got a 2012 RANGER XLT. 200 000 km. No problems, but it hasn't been flogged, it's not a. It's not a bitumen queen either.
Not sure where the greater efficiency comes from with an EGR as I have had diesel vehicles since the mid 1970's and I was getting better fuel consumption figures back then from the same size of engines ( two to four liter) than I am now. Back in the 70's I was getting 40 to 50 MPG from a 2 liter now I am lucky to get 28 mpg with an engine fitted with an EGR, so the only reason I can see for the EGR is to lower emissions but dose it even do that, may lower percentages in the volume but you are then burning twice as much fuel to do the same distance, so if you half emissions with an EGR you are straight back to square one as twice as much fuel and therefore exhaust gas volume is produced.
The purpose of almost every single system fitted to a modern diesel engines is to reduce harmful emissions that are bad for human health and It does effect mileage or running costs.
A mate of mine in the trade blanked off my EGR at the inlet manifold on my Peugeot 306 (DW10 engine) , car runs just as well as before.
EGR only improves volumetric efficiency (actually it doesn't - it reduces effective engine displacement) in spark ignition engines so that a wider throttle position can be used for a given power demand at less than WOT operation. This reduces pumping losses. Since diesels don't use a throttle valve, the only purpose of EGR in that case is NOx emissions. It helps by displacing a portion of the excess oxygen and nitrogen in the cylinder and reducing peak combustion temperature, so less NOx can form.
EGR's are the worst devices to prematurely shorten the life of every modern day diesel engine. Their operation along with PCV valves forces the engine to ingest its own filth in order to meet emissions. In doing so coat all the inlet side of the induction system with a black sticky mess that consists of carbon deposits and oil mist combination. This is far from ideal for efficient combustion and longevity of the engine. It also ends up in the sump under blow by from the pistons....great lubrication properties in that! This means more frequent oil changes etc etc. If they could come up with a better system would be great. The PCV issue is easily fixed by fitting a catch can and emptying it regularly and responsibly. Older style diesels...though probably emissions unfriendly....would see 500k and more without too many issues. Today's versions would be lucky to see 200k unless you are OCD with the oil changes, manifold cleaning, filters etc. The climate activists and all the other do gooders want the diesel dead and buried which is a shame as they have come leaps and bounds from 50 years ago to amazingly powerful and efficient engines.....apart from the EGR etc.....need more work there!
@@nuclearfishin1185 100% fact, green voting morons have no clue.
last year my racq 2020 Isuzu Dmax service ute 61000km on the dial failed its turbo charger.
Isuzu Australia faught hard to deny the warranty claim. The said vehicle was out of service for nearly 3 months.
I,ve since left that position, Cant speak highly enough to my 2001 toyota townace 300000+ k on the dial, drive all day reliability. 😂
Self destructing EGR coolers aren't just a ranger thing, they're a Ford in general thing.
Mondeos are pretty good at blowing them as well. Also good at blowing the plastic thermostat housing. Had both go, work car, and most of the other mondeos we have have also had that same problem.
That Mondeo’s engine development was led by PSA Peugeot Citroen. So blame them for that
Px1 owner, 335km, just done egr delete, two blanking plates and rerouted a heater hose.
Did the car throw any codes
@@MrAussielovin the egr valve stopped working.
@brendanmouat6942 thanks for the reply. I appreciate it. My mechanic telling me I need to have ecu tuned to turn off the EGR. I'm trying to do it tight ass way but sounds like I better get the egr valve turned off in the ecu
Isn't the V6 Ranger engine the Peugeot Citroën Ford Land Rover engine? In the LR the crank journal's are made of playdough.
Thanks for all the shiny things on your videos
Seems most diesels have egr issues sooner or later. My Prado is losing coolant at 120k so looks like its time for me to replace the egr cooler but heres the kicker - $2200 just for the genuine replacement part...
Dont forget the ones burning down ,a insurance bloke told my mate whos ranger burned down there are heaps of these he sees,poor windscreen glue water leaks into wires under dash burns down
lots of car dealer talk in this one , were the clues the motor is good on the Dmax , like not a 30k dollar lesson from a manufacturers failure in design . EGR is good for industry dollars ongoing . Car industry is grubby to the core. Au make a stand of prevention to all this gaff in the Automotive industry . Kool sharing such a critical piece of awareness re the dodgy EGR cooler design. Throw away society with no choice in that society more and more in the Automotive industry , goals. I dont see wear as a cause to this shit show cooler engineering/manufacture ring, engineer i'd guess , after all they must spec design.
Hmm. Doesnt surprise me in the slightest. Will definitely hang on to my old landcruisers.
Here in the states we have a couple transit T250s with 3.2
They both over 120k miles.
Been through coolers on both, wish there there was a way to delete.
Not much aftermarket in us for 3.2.
There’s heaps available, just need to know what you’re looking for
I've done 240,000 in my ranger and have only had to a alternator, and the egr started to leave water a month or so ago. I tow a car trailer 2 to 3 times a week doin 500k round trips loaded its been a pretty solid bus
Change it then before it shits the bed
My egr was blocked by carbon build up
Un be known to me ,
it exploded , 6k later
I was using 2018 bt50 xtr daily for work and noticing the cooler got lesser periodically. Been following the forum and found its one of probable symptoms for egr cooler failure. After 42,000km ended up trade it in for a new toyota van bcos the dealer will to pay the same price bought the ute 3 years ago. Had fun with it though..
My 2.2 just died after 304 000km Towing 3 ton trailers
I've had a ranger for about five years as work Truck hasn't worked overly hard. In that time replaced diff, engine from cracked block and now it's losing power so won't be buying another ranger. but it had a comfortable seat and good power but build quality was poor and unreliable, my hilux prior to the ranger was reliable and was worked alot harder but didn't go as fast however they newer hilux probably goes alot faster I know what I'll be buying next and it won't be a Ford
If a vehicle can't get over 100 000 ks without major surgery then it is a piece of junk. Mind you young blokes are buying rangers and hiluxes now and driving them like ss commodores which they aren't. Being a former engine reconditioner i can say these diesel vehicles are not designed to be flogged 500nm out of a small engine it is designed to break. The Ford ranger and Toyota hilux have now become the bogans choice of vehicle.
Egr blank, coolant Bypass fk your emission standards… insuring that your motor lasts as long as possible is the “green” thing todo
Rangers & Bt50’s apparently also have problems with vane type oil pump failures while driving causing loss of oil pressure and possible catastrophic engine damage as well as torque converter failures causing loss of drive, not much fun on the way out to DP creek
Is that down to people changing their own oil and not doing it within 10 minutes?
I've personally had 2 engines through my shop for that reason 1@68 000 kms the other 102 000 kms . Neither due to customer changing own oil just a terrible pump or even machining of the pump caused failure- also worth noting no other engine specify 10 minutes only to change oil
i don't hear many egr cooler failures here. i wonder if they didn't take oz temps into consideration. increased air temps means higher egts, higher rate of egr used, more heat into the cooling circuit and less cooling from the radiator. a bit of extra cooling may help.
The Ranger is Australian designed by Ford Australia. Just a poor design of egr
@@adampowell4867 they didn't design the engine, its a European design.
@@oldbloke100 Ford stated they did millions of kilometres of testing in Australia. They approved use of the poorly designed egr
They should have learned from the td5 landrover engines same issies with there engine oil cooler etc
Replace the EGR cooler for peace of mind and blissfully wait for the engine oil cooler to spew oil all through the cooling system soon after...
Yep my Ranger just shat itself because of the ERG unit - no warning no indication of an issue - buggar
Diesel EGR not there for voleff brutha, it's a (mostly) unthrottled diesel eh? It's there to reduce feedgas NOx. On "homo" charge engines it is there for NOx AND mech efficiency as u say by increasing part load voleff (which is a kinda nonsensical concept) by reducing throttling/pumping losses. QED!
What fucking language is this 😂
They need to remove all this bullshit so called anti pollution crap from all vehicles... 🤬🤬🤬
I have a 2017 bt 50 , 24000 kms on the clock 3 days after the 2nd service it died on a trip about 250 kms from home, it had spat all its engine oil out and the inside of over flow bottle was black, when the tilt tray picked it up there was a mini waterfall of oil dripping out of a dozen places it had collected.Mazda would not tell me what went wrong with it, they did replace the motor and hired me a car for the 6 months it took to fix it😁
Thats not ideal!!!!! Kind of story you see on today tonight. Sounds like they were pretty keen to keep it hush hush
@@Swwa89 yeah that was what i was thinking, of course it died in the middle of the night, towie dumped the ute outside the dealers , nice advertisement for them new ute sitting outside, oil sprayed up both doors sitting in a puddle of oil
@@stewart9788 sounds pretty catastrophic. How many ks has the new motor done and all issue free? Have heard mixed reviews about them but see alot on the road so can't be too bad!!!
@@Swwa89 i have done 8000ks since rebuild seems ok , but then it seemed ok before as well . Only reason i will think about keeping it past warranty is i have a complete driveline worth of parts, the bt50 before(only 29000 ks on the clock) was written off in a head on smash. I bought the wreck back its the same model.If i didn't have all the parts and diesel mechanic mates , no way i would keep it past warranty
@@stewart9788 yeah fair enough not built to last!!! I'll happily stick with my old y61 gu wagon I think
My old man had the EGR deleted from his PK Ranger because they are notorious for the RGR cooler exiting stage left without warning. The rot started generations ago.
In the old days we would have just deleted the egr all together if possible .
They are a bitch to replace, at the back of the engine and under the windsceen, horrible!
Hahahaha would be like that
I drive a 2016 ranger since new, now with 215000kms, been loaded to GVM since day one, many times at 6+tons with trailer on. Been chipped since 15000kms. Only issues a set of glow pugs and an egt sensor. ALWAYS has min 20 min warm up in driveway before the wheels turn. Flawless and eats hiluxes for breakfast!
wow
Doesn't excessive idling glaze the cylinders?
@@abyssmanur3965 All depends on your interpretation of excessive idling. For me 20 min during warm up is nothing in the grand scheme. Thermal shock on a cold engine is more a concern in my book because its a fully loaded to gvm vehicle all the time, there is no light load warm up driving option. My house is 30 seconds from a 100 kph speed region. Then it is high power settings during most driving. Glazing doesn't happen in just a few minutes.
@@kiwidiesel I have a downhill run of about 100 m then uphill grade of about 20⁰ for 250 m, my 2010 Colorado takes 4-5 km to get to safe temp where exhaust note changes and motor sounds 'happy'! So this first hundred metres kills it on a cold start, but letting it idle to warm up takes forever, like 30-40mins to see a change on the temp gauge.
So yes, I'll start her up while I have my last coffee before work!
@@abyssmanur3965 yeah I agree you may not see a change in the temp gauge but most gauges dont show a reading until approx 40-50 degrees but it letting things run until you have guzzled that coffee back is sufficient.
I have rebuilt many diesel engines from 4 litre up to 16 litre and the only ones that have ever showed cylinder glazing were well into the one million kms range so its not a thing to worry about from what I have seen.
Just had a small warranty claim on my dmax. Piece of plastic on the sports bar fell off and it doesn't have its own part number, only comes with a full bar. In this instance Isuzu Aus weren't the problem. The dealership was the problem with three months of arguing back and forth to get a replacement piece of plastic. Note for future dmax buyers don't get the sports bar lol
You could do a complete series on the awful Ranger 😂
My ranger has 205.000 and not one problem with anything
I just had my engine replaced because of this egr thang...
Mate , just talk about the cars , your not funny with you wit , talk about the bloody cars
80-ish thousand kms out of Ranger and start budgeting for a rebuild? Damn, my RX-8 is looking great at 140-ish thousand kms now!
And it's been dragging 6 tonnes around?
Don't worry mate, with that chook cooker I'm sure your time is coming soon 😂
@@unklekurlu There is a reason I've got a pile of cash stashed away. One day it will throw a rotor :)
@@rais1953 I mean... it was never claimed it could?
Yeah my “totally unreliable” 15 year Golf Gti is hitting 160k plus and I am still waiting for it to explode.
Limited information here as to why this occurs to the EGR and how it can be avoided. Mostly, it happens after a major service, when the motor coolent has been changed. Air in the cooling system forms a bubble around the EGR and can not escape. This results in the EGR overheating and cracking. Can be avoid if the cooling system is refilled correctly. This is a common reason why EGR fail in any vehicle with them fitted.
What is the correct way to refill system after coolant change?
I read this on Cars Guide; 'I thought I'd tell you about another problem with the Ford Ranger. The cooler for the EGR valve fails, and when it does it pumps water into the motor and the conrods bend under the force. We had one in our workshop recently. We fitted a new cooler with the engine rebuild, and that also failed in a few weeks. Luckily we caught it this time, which saved the motor.'
the cooling system is under pressure when hot, the EGR gets a internal crack, it might be fine whilist your driving but let it set for 15 or more min the coolant builds up and once you restart it ends up in the combustion chamber and its game over
A few years ago the company I used to work for had a Mazda BT-50 with the 2 litre engine. It suffered the EGR cooler blowout at about 70000km. The engine was rebuilt under warranty but the replacement EGR cooler failed 30000km later. It's simply a bad design and why Ford persist with it is beyond comprehension.
@@geoffreythurtell8761 the issue is the tight emission regulations put extrema rapid heat fluctuations on egr coolers.
so any slight manufacturing tolerance issue will eventually show up
Yep. We’ve had a PX1 do exactly this.
@@geoffreythurtell8761 they should have developed it better in the first place. Poor QC... but remember this is a company that cuts cost by downgrading wiring, aluminum hoses/electrical connectors to plastic.
The problem is if they redesign the cooler they have to issue a recall on all models currently out and fork up the $ to replace. They are never going to do that. They are going to do the cheapest fix even if that fix has to be done 3-4 times per car life and put some money into redesign on next model.
As stupid as it is, it's the automotive industry today.
To ask a silly question, what's the most dependable 4x4 ute...
94 2.8 turbo diesel rodeo.
So new vehicles are made shit give me a vehicle with less power but lasts a life time
Does the 2.0 bi turbo have the same issue with the egr cooler?