Big block Ford 390 FE comp cams extreme energy cam
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- Big block Ford FE 390 bored .40 over hyperutectic piston factory forged rods. Factory crank quick fuel 750 anullar carb, 1 inch spacer. Edelbrock performer rpm heads, performer intake manifold, MSD distributor, Accel wires, 398 cubes
390 fe engines are really underrated when it comes to making performance upgrades. They really come alive.
@Wicky Las yes and 360 btw
FE engines will rev like a mother without blowing a rod. Clevlands seem to come apart when you are hard on them.
390’s need extensive work to make them run hard. This one sounds like a tractor
Building a 360 FE for a little fox never seen it or heard of any one doing it so I figured why not haha
@@nathanbrown3583 because you can build a 428 for basically the same price
Back when the 360 FE was the mainstay of Ford pickup trucks
I used replace the cams with a FoMoCo OBZ cam spec for the 390 GT HP. Really woke them up.
Of course I also swapped intakes added a 600cfm carb and daul exhaust.
Customers were always happy.
I just put a 428 crank in the 360 with the stock pistons and rings if it was within specs. Get it clean. Swap in a GT/CJ cam and 428 CJ intake back in the 70s for a pickup and a set of cheap F100 headers. It would rip the tires off and wind to 6500 effortlessly. 360 to 410 F100 Road Runner killer, lol.
Good job on building an FE engine. Very cool and great line of cams
For both torque and hp
This engine looks great and it runs great...to bad you are getting negative comments on her by wanna be engine builders that probably cant even keep their bicycle chains on.
billy mack you might want to check your tricycle chain your you are right I am no engine builder but have damn sure built some snall block chevys that ran pretty well and sure sounded better than that 390 with OPEN HEADERS on it and I am also a ford fan and ran a 390 in a 1963 galaxy that sounded that good and had not had a whole lot of work done to it. All show probably not much go
@@williamquire2115 Well I can tell you this I have been building small block chevs and fords for over 20 years. I have campaigned many 1/4 drag cars won many trophy's with my small block 1966 chevell and my 68 camaro. Then moved to building 390s racing a 67 fast back mustang then moved to building 427 fe big blocks which was very expensive and how did I afford this? I built engines on the side for local racers and my own competition but it took care of my bills so could race. I am a huge fan of the chev engine but like this guy I love fe engines and you have no right to knock another car enthusiasts engine build just because of the brand that is just ignorant.
@@williamquire2115 ....Hey pal he said its a high energy cam and performer parts.From reading what you wrote you know as well as we do those are street motor parts. You big time engine builders all know more cubic inchs means less idle lope with the equal cam duration & lift. We all want to thank you for patting yourself on the back. Most of us think the engine sounded fresh and solid using the parts he did.
I'm 67 years old my grandfather and my father we ran sprint cars all over up and down the east coast and we also run late model modifieds and it was the best time of my life racing on a dirt track is fun but them dag gone sprint cars they like to turn over
@@williamquire2115 Go take your head for a dump boy
Love me some FE motors! Looking and sounding great!
When I was a little kid my dad had an old Ford pickup in Mexico and that sounds reminds me of it. Love fords.
Such sweet music for my ear holes. Old Ford's never die, they just run faster
Love it I have been running FE for years and are still run them my son wants one for his 1st engine.
Love the FE build, just put a 428 (not CJ) in my F100, a torque monster. That Performer manifold is a cork though, switched to an RPM on mine, really woke it up, even sounds different.
I put that same XE262H cam in a zero decked 10:1 compression 390 with L2291F pistons, C1AE heads, stock C5AE (June of 64 actual casting) cast iron 4V intake, stock exhaust manifolds with a good 2.5" exhaust system. Stock single point ignition with a pretty aggressive centrifugal advance curve and a 1850-5 600 CFM holley with 66 primary jets and a metering plate drilled for 70 jet equivalent. That thing runs pretty swell, lots of torque and revs to 5000 like it's nothing. WAY more power than that 250HP 352 it replaced, which also ran pretty well for it being 57 years old and 158k miles. I paid a lot of money to have good machine work done right and not cut corners, it seems that helps build more HP and TQ on a mild engine than just bolting aftermarket stuff onto a basic thrown together engine. Really happy with how mine runs with that cam, although the idle is a lot smoother than I wanted but it performs so well I don't mind, still sounds good.
I agree I was hoping for a little bit rougher idle too. But I do like the low-end torque and amazing throttle response.
@@bricoperformanceengines2208 question on the wire clamps...Where you get them?
@@bricoperformanceengines2208 I have a 270S solid cam and a Holley SD in my 10:1 394 (.020) over 390 and it has that sweet lope you were talking about. The 270 or the 282 cams are still good and a Performmer RPM and a 750 will scream, I run mine to 6800 no problem. The other cams are great too. Billy at Comp knows his FEs. The RPM intake and a 3310 just can’t get any better.
Had a 1968 ford ranger with 390 in it. Was a fun truck. Love the vid. Thanks
Gonna keep coming back to this video every time i think about swapping my 360 for a gen7 bbc
Awesome! Built a 72 390 in a 4wd F-100 saved and saved from my 1st job at 15 when I turned 16 bought everything at united speed world, high energy cam and lifters blackjacks on glasspacks, super coil, looks like still the only intake is the performet, back then anyway topped it with holley 750 duel feed, Yours is BEAUTIFUL!
Sounds great had one in my cougar back in the sixties ran really good
Nothing sounds like a big block, such sweet music for my ear holes. Make it scream and piss of the neighbors 😎😎
I personally had a 390 crate motor from RS racing with Shelby heads a Holly 750 duel feed Malory ign and headers detroit locker rearend put in a mint 73 Ford f100 4×4. I bought in 94 from a one owner whose son worked at the Ford racing company! It had 28,000 miles on the engine and 70,000 on the truck and all I'll say when u lifted the hood and saw that beautiful motor u we're like WOW!!! It had so much power! Beautiful garage jeot truck!!!!!
That's pretty much what I want in a F100. A 390 with edelbrock performer rpm kit. The heads , intake, can, carb , all matched together. Nothing crazy just a fun street motor. Should be more than enough for me
Me too
With that cam she will build some fat torque right up around 500 ft lbs. I had a 398 built almost identical in the 1990s a d it was a hoss. You will love that thing.
Yeah, that 262 high cam from comp makes serious torque.
Tim Dixon that motor will not come close to 500ft lbs. same motor in my old 71 ford truck. Right about 350hp and 385 ft lbs. FE motors are a breed of their own..
@@theloanmonster2012 For it to be torque monster it needs 428 rotating assemble like Mercury 410s had.
@@theloanmonster2012 In stock form no but His ain't stock. He has all the right stuff in there. And I know these engines, been working with them for 30 years. There are hidden poney's to be had in that iron. Factory flat tops with 4 valve reliefs. Turn them around in the rods so the arrow points to the back if you want torque. The pin offset changes the dwell time at tdc and builds combustion pressure longer. Advance the cam 2 degrees and run a 750 or 850 double pumper on a performer intake. It will pull stumps out of the ground.
Love your engine stand! Nice engine!
Sick ass motor bro. Always loved the big Ford motors... I've got a 429 Cleveland bored .030 nestled in a Ranchero GT. So about a 434ci with flat tops Comp extreme 260 cam, 3 angle valve job on the factory DOVEs, topped off with Edelbrock RPM and a 750 Manual choke... Loves 6000rpm!!! Next is upgrading to rollers cuz 6000 on stamped steel is pushing my luck, broke a few valve springs over the years 😔 Love this FE SICK
My guess from what I read and FE experience we are looking at 380hp and 490+ ft lbs at peak torque. This engine will sling a full size older Ford truck around like a rag doll. I've run these for many years, its the best Ford engine family to me. The real deal mid block from back in the day.
Just a little biased I was wanting you to rev her a bit. That sound good though at idle
Thank god he mentioned the chromed oil pan.
I wish someone close to me in Michigan had a similar engine stand to test my FE390 before I install it...
Adnan, There is. Lots of guys/gals at local car shows these FE's and can help you. Lots of free knowledge out there. Build it, seek answers and pop it in. You do not need an engine stand. Cheers from Westland, Michigan.
That is American horse power at it's finest !!!
Great motor! Wish i would have taken video of my 431 stroker! From start to finish, have it in pictures, didn't know about You Tube. May have to learn and share. Like your video Thanks PS it used to be an FE 390 they are one of my favorites!
Grew up on them love it sounds so good
I have a 390 4v in my 68 f100. Is .40 over and a similar build to this. Their pretty torquey engines. Gets up and goes way faster than my 5.7l charger
I think it needs a little bigger cam. Even for a truck, that thing will make a ton of torque with any cam...
Sounds like the 390 in my 63 galaxie 500!
Sounds good but it kinda sounds like my grandpas 1950’s Lincoln welder haha I love ford Big blocks
man i wish i had your knowledge, it’s painful to be clueless
Ele, I was the same way too when I got my 67 Mustang Ex-390 car now with a 460 ci mild built big block. Before you start a project, look up a RUclips video for that. You will learn everything you need to do this stuff. Will require some decent tools though, but you can do it. This year, I have done things I never thought possible! Take your time, ask questions on the forums etc. People will help you. Cheers from Motown.
Nice, I used the same version of the cam. Just a few stages higher.
Nothing sounds like a ford
I wish my Ford Focus sounded like that.
The MOPAR 383 of FoMoCO but I can still lift a 383 intake manifold off of the engine now that I'm old!
I have one in my old unibody f100 weather that be a 360 or 390 and it’s a very unique engine I love it
My brother's truck got about same setup pulls pretty good for 3/4 ton
The 445 jailbrake Stroker for 360- 390 is something to check out for you fellow fe fans if you haven't heard about it.
Nice job. Just finished one in a 66 f100.
Dude said um in one video more than I’ve said in my life. Not a big block either, but hella nice small block, she purrs
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Gosh, I mis my Fairlane
I love it! Sounds like a marine cam. Did you make any videos of the tear down or build? Ty for sharing.
Dont know very much about the 390 festival engine. However I do know yours sounds strong.
390 is one of Ford's best engines much better than the 460 in my opinion
Not enough lope for my tastes, but sure looks nice!
Got it idling too fast to hear lope, Idle it down to 650 and you'll hear it
@Rob Durst sounds better than a cheby
@Rob Durst just because it's easier and way cheaper to make a Chevy sound good doesn't mean Fords can't sound good. I have a FE similar to this one in my 68 F100 that a guy at the muffler shop ask me if it was a Chevy motor because of how it was beating the ground. Idle this guy's down and it'll sound good too I promise.
Who gives a shit about your opinion?
@@mdtransmissionspecialties That’s rude.
Sounds like a great engine for a ski boat, awesome sound.
Sounds like 2 dudes that don't know shit.. lmfao..
Haters always hate.
Sounds like it's a good running motor. Ive built a bunch of sbf but I wanna build a big next
love to see what it makes on the dyno
Around 400
I have 390 in my 1965 Thunderbird. It needs overgaul
Sounds real nice!
my 398 Windsor 4.060 bore 3.85 stroke and the comp extreme energy w/ bodix cnc ported heads makes 500 hp.on the dyno. 750 quick fuel dbl pumper. we are very similar. your running a 3.78 stroke. you got hypereutectic pistons I got srp forged. i'll bet your hp is right there too. 390s run good.. I need that spacer under the carb but the hood gets in the way.
dufus, my family has driven Ford's since 1930. I am 60, how you get a 398 Windsor? What you do, bore and stroke the hell out of 351 Windsor? Let me know I'm interested in the reply
Its idling close to 1000rpm, bring the idle down it will lope.
Joe Nobody lope should not come from low idel speed that means you are just idling with low oil pressure real hard on lower end listen to the cars at the track where you can see what they are doing theirs will be idling fast and still loping
If you idle that cam down to 850rpms which it is probably meant for anyway it would lope more and not hurt anything.
It looks AWESOME
love that sound got stock on in 65 galaxie
Wow...some grown men trolling this guy wtf is that? Wife made you mop again?🙂
Op the cam you have is the XE not the old hi-energy cam 2 different grinds
Both excellent for a heavy truck this thing will make great torque.
Guys saying needs a big cam are wrong this time..Not every engine is a pro stocker
Lope dont equal fast, anways. Nice build man.
Dude sweet motor I got one I'm building up just curious how much hp does it make?
Nice parts list 😊 i have the RPM intake on my 69 FE truck engine i listened to the web racers on jegs my stock heads will never flow the amnt of air that RPM intake is capable of .
Looks and sounds boss !
All the 390 GT engine needed were the low riser 427 heads a.k.a Cobra Jet heads. They were on the shelf, if they had been on the 390 GT engine from the beginning, the 390 would have easily run w/ 396 Chevrolets and would never have been regarded as a boat anchor. Another Ford missed opportunity.
thoof2001 Completely agree. Ford used the same cam in the CJ, the heads maid the difference
GT heads were only the extra bolt holes for the exhaust manifold.
Nice looking
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Hmm... Not sure if it's just in the high idle position in the carb linkage or not but the 390 in my 65 galaxie sounds like it runs about half this speed... But, it sounds good!!
Why didn't we see some throttle response?
You can't get an accurate view of throttle response with the flex plate or flywheel hook to the transmission. It revs way faster on the stand than in a vehicle.
It's cold
VIP the throttle!
Can you put a 428 CJ cobra jet crankshaft stamped as a 2U.... im upgrading a 360 to a 390
I love my 390
What is the compression ratio?
Sounds good!
390 is a good mill, they got the 460 crank @ 3.78 stroke. Good torque motor with decent mpg. I would like to run a Gm Tbi setup on old fords. Nice build
No rev it up??
THAT NEEDS A MINIMUM OF A 950 holly 750 is for a 283 factory,
It doesnt even need a 750..and a 750 will drown a 283 like a canoe with a hole in it
Great video
Have a 66Tbird with a 390fe engine. Been trying to find hi performance parts since 2013 for this engine. Can you tell me where to go to find these parts. Great video. New subber.
Hi I bought all the parts through summit racing. Or you can go directly to Edelbrocks website for heads and intake. you can go to compcams website to buy the cam and lifters and pushrods.
@@bricoperformanceengines2208 . Appreciate the information.
There are more aftermarket performance parts available now for the Ford FE than ever before. You can literally build an FE from the ground up with all aftermarket parts if you had the money. Google my boy, Google! Good luck.
@@supercent666. Thanks, my boy. Thanks.
Perfect
i just cant stand when someone says something is sick reversing the meaning of a condition
The Cleveland based 400ci was a better engine due to the head configuration, built one for a four wheel drive half ton, killer engine ,good mileage too.
LOL
Good fuel mileage from a Cleveland? Sounds like a line from a used car salesman.
@Andy Knapp Indexing the cam away from the 70's emissions settings and unborking the timing advance curves does work wonders on the 400M, but you have to watch your octane ratings. Chamber design can get REAL ping happy.
Had the 400 in a'71 LTD. Around town 10mpg. On the hi-way @ a steady 60mph, 18.2mpg.
The 400 or the 400M as it was called was made in ford's Michigan foundry,not the Cleveland foundry!
What cam did you use and what do you estimate horsepower to be?
Is there a parts list for this build? It looks/sounds great and if it’s intended for a truck it’s about the motor I need for mine
Just bought myself a 1967 Ford Galaxie 500 with a 390 and wanted some advice planning on rebuilding the engine and transmission any tips on the best parts to get the best bang for my buck my game plan is to barely step on the gas and already Burn Rubber
Why would you use a 5200 RPM cam in Edelbrock 6500 RPM flow aluminum heads mismatched setup the star cast iron Fe heads would be more suited for torque reduction along with that low RPM high torque cam.
Very nice build but 6500 RPM Edelbrock aluminum heads for a 5200 RPM cam mismatch build that would be like running 12 to 1 compression and a ton of ram with dual fours and running an RV cam totally mismatched setup no offense though.
The cam rpm range goes to 5600.
Edelbrock only makes the performer rpm heads for Ford Fe engine's. And I don't like to buy Chinese heads that are sub par quality and have lower flow numbers. If you want to buy cheep knock offs that make less power and are poor quality be my guest... I won't do that.
The motor went in a truck and had tons of low-end torque. And pulled hard to 6000. Nuthing was mismatched.
@@bricoperformanceengines2208 Good for shopping like a patriotic American.
Put that crank and rods into a 352 block. With 2 barrel heads. 4 barrel intake and carb. Will run better
Dude, if you take 208hp or 220hp rated heads and put on ANY engine that's what you are going to get. Just like dummies that take a 1977 small block chevy and try to put 2 4bbls on it, and all you see is black smoke from the flooding of the engine. Weak ass heads are weak ass heads... You will need to at least put a set of Hi Po valve springs onto the 352 heads because like ALL lower HP FE's you will just run into valve float anyways, but more so with the 2bbl. 352 heads...
@@kramnull8962 332s, 352s, 360s, 390s, were truck and big passenger car engines meant for low end torque. Only the 352 hi po's, 390 GTs were performance engines. anybody with skills can port heads add parts off the shelf back in the day and make more HP. The FEs' really became performance engines when 406's, 427s, and 428s came along most common was 428s is three versions. Even the 427 was D-stroked to make 396 cubes to run in classes
@@rmo4222 Well you are overlooking the very powerful 401 Hp@6000 early 60's FE or even the 375 Hp@6000 version of the early 60's. The 390GT of 67 was no slouch, but at only 320 Hp@4800 and 427 ft. lb. not as powerful as the older 60's versions...
@@kramnull8962 it you look down I mentioned 352 Hi Pos, the majority of them was passenger and truck engines and made good low end torque which was required to get the heavy cars and trucks moving. Neighbor had 58 Fairlane 500 with 332, it would burn the skinny tires for as long as you held the gas pedal down .
Sounds like a jet love it
How does it have factory forged 428 rods when a 410-Mercury/428 F.E crankshaft has 3.98" stroke and the 390 F.E has a 3.78" stroke????
There were two rod length s in these engines. A short rod version 6.488 length that was used in the 390,406,427,and 428. The longer rods 6.540 were used in the 332,352,360 and 361.
They can use the same rods because they changed the wristpin height on the Pistons.
This is how all stroker combination s are made still to this day.
These normally supposed to idle so high at 900-1000?
Exhausts need to be about half inch shorter but yea all good with me
I have a 352 FE in a 63 I’ve been working on and it’s screaming when it’s on as of now it has no muffler just ran straight down to the floor but anytime I move it it throws the truck into reverse any tips?
Could be,High idle getting stuck. Or a vacuum leak.
@@bricoperformanceengines2208 it was indeed a vaccumn leak it was coming from the back of the carburetor not sure how to plug it up though I’ve searched and searched and found no solution
@@diegoangelavila9549 what type of carb is it.
Couple things to try off the top of my head, make sure the gaskets under the carb are good. You can get them at advanced auto or AutoZone for pretty cheap. Next thing they also sell small push on cap kits at either store . This way you can plug it if it's some sort of hose nipple on the back off the carb.
The cap kits would be in the HELP Isle section.
Hope this helps
@@bricoperformanceengines2208 all gaskets on the engine have been replaced it’s the factory 2bbl carb off a 360
I want measurements on that run Stand. I got 2 390 ill be tearing down this winter.
what year is the truck looks like a 1967 very nice motor
What is the cost of that engine in that current state?? A friend just had the same engine rebuilt and I’m sure the builder shafted him on the price
These particular engine is extremely difficult to rebuild. They have odd gaskets and a difficult rear main seal. And the oil galleys are difficult to deal with too.
A decent performance build of this engine is probably 7500 .
@@bricoperformanceengines2208 thanks for the reply.
sweet sound of an fe. like an old lawn mower
FE's ruled Nascar in the late 50 and 60s, Drag strip, not to mention what AC cobra's done. When you seen Mopar with the hemi you seen Ford right behind it or in front of it Chevy was sucking hind tit. even Pontiac beat chevies.
fix or repair daily. fords are trash
Where did you get your test starter bracket? I've been looking all over for one for my test setup. BTW, I like your test stand, so I made one just like it.
Just make one. Get some scrap plate steel and draw it out after making a template from cardboard. Just cut it with a Sawzall and detail finish it with your bench grinder.
Curious how you get 10:1 comp. Are those 72cc heads?
Yes those are 72 cc Chambers. When I did the math out it came out to 10.1
my stock 66 mercury 410 marauder had 10.1 compression in my 55 ford f100 in 1969
10:1 is not all that high compared to back in the day when we were running 11:1 or 12:1. Flat tops and decking the block/heads some making sure the clearance if there of course.
What intake manifold and carburetor does he have?
A 390 is not a big block. It's an FE. Only the 385 series can be considered big blocks . But for what it's worth. Good build.
@Dennis Burger no. Ford has engine families not big or small designations. Those are Chevy designations.
@Dennis Burger that's the dumbest thing I've heard so far. Thanks.
@Dennis Burger you really need to brush up on your ford engine series bud. For real.
@Dennis Burger FE, MEL, 335 385 and "windsors", Y blocks and flathead. These are FORD designations. I dont give a flying fuck what anyone else says they are. Including summit jegs or jesus christ.
Phenolic spacer...not phetolic....phenolic is a type of plastic that withstands heat
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I have a 68 Ltd with a Ford 390 fe 2v. I'm running about 18 btc degrees initial advance with 40btc total advance timing. It has a msd 6al ignition box with a Chevy hei distributor and iridium plugs running 91 octane. Is that good or where should I set it at for best possible power output
i saw that no one has responded to your question, that’s as high as i would go personally and ive been building ford motors as well as being master ford certified i bleed ford blue and crimson tide Alabama pride
i know some more tricks to gaining power but it’s not something i can text i would have to talk to you an let you take some notes those older motors my uncle taught me years of things he did in the 60’s and 70’s
Where did you get the starter plate