JUNKYARD 460 BIG BLOCK FORD PERFORMANCE. HOW TO MAKE MORE POWER FROM YOUR BBF. RESULTS-300-600 HP
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- Опубликовано: 15 июл 2024
- HOW CAN I MAKE CHEAP BIG BLOCK FORD POWER? HOW MUCH ARE PORTED HEADS WORTH ON MY BBF? WHAT CAM SHOULD I PICK FOR MY BIG BLOCK FORD? CAN A 460 MAKE BIG POWER? CAN I MAKE 600 HP WITH STOCK IRON BBF HEADS? HOW WELL DOES THE STOCK 460 INTAKE WORK? DO I NEED AFTER MARKET ALUM HEADS? SHOULD I RUN A STROKER? CHECK OUT THIS VIDEO WHERE I COVERED FOUR DIFFERENT BUILD UPS, STARTING WITH A SIMPLE CAM SWAP ON A JUNKYARD 460, THEN DETAILING THE MODS TO INCREASE THE POWER TO OVER 400 HP, THEN OVER 500 HP AND, FINALLY, OVER 600 HP, ALL WITHOUT RESORTING TO EXPENSIVE, AFTER MARKET ALUMINUM HEADS. DON'T WORRY-THOSE ARE COMING IN PART 2 WHEN I TAKE THE BBF TO OVR 1100 HP WITH DISPLACEMENT, ALUMINUM HEADS AND NITROUS.
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Finally some bbf content
About damn time we get some bbf!
@@jrod132002 They had to find one that was willing to try before blowing... I mean giving up!
@@richwood8650 🤔😂
NOTHING sounds better than a BBF. Love the deep tone.
@@techs1smh13 To be honest, one of my favorite cars from my past was a 69 mustang grandé. An original 390 car that someone had put a 429 in. Was fun.
Here comes a tidal wave 🌊 of bbf guys. Go FORD! 👍🚀
the popped a wheelie in my stock ford truck and nothing beat it guys
Love the 460!!!!
“Blueish gold rocker arms” that made me laugh so hard 🤣🤣🤣
Yes! Love the big block Ford content! 👍🇺🇸👍🇺🇸
Finally some bbf stuff!!!!
I'm not a Ford guy but, I love 460s!!! So much bore!!
I love these motors that have the distributor in the right location.
Funny. My first car a Chevy when I was 14. Stupid distributor in the back. My nees hurt every time I adjusted the points. I switched to Ford because of the distributor location.
@@jesse75 Amen..
I'll always miss my 400 Chrysler. Love the front distributors. And starter sound!
Only thing I really like about FOrds. Nice having it tucked in back but a pain in the azz sticking it back in sometimes. My spine hates me
I remember in the 70s that 460 Police Interceptor heads were much sought-after. They had bigger valves for better breathing.
that was when you couldn't afford cobra jet heads, which were like hen's teeth
Nice 👍
Lets see some stroker 390 FE builds
Love me some BBF, looking forward to seeing your analysis on a FE.
I love the way a nasty FE sounds!
@@danpetermann6509 personality. I like the FE better.
I like the squirrels FE!!!
Nothing about an Fe is better than a 429/460. All the weight without the head flow or cube capacity. Boat anchors but fine for driving around
@@mitchanderson5813 An FE weighs 100 lbs less than a 460. I have had them on a scale. And have Blair Patrick build you an FE he can show you the power. He built a 400 ci one with iron heads and a Trick Flow intake that won vintage class against every thing including a 427 Chevy. It made 517 ft lbs and 597 hp with iron 64 352 ported heads. He had 528 and 610 hp on his dyno in TN, so it lost a few on the trip, lol. I have flowed and ported both and you would be quite surprised.
Nice to see something different from the same old boring LS stuff.
Thank you Richard. Your videos are awesome. A lot of information.
Literally bought a carbed sealed running 460 last week with a torquer for $250. That’s the base for my obs 460 replacement. Gonna run Holley terminator X efi because it’s a hunting/play rig with a lot of elevation change in between. Stoked about this vid right now!
Use motorhome mufflers so you don't spook what you are hunting for.
Thanks bro, appreciate 👍
Make sure you run fuel usage so I can compare cost of operation compared to diesel. Lot of blown up "POWERSTROKES" that could use a 460 transplant!
Yes I been waiting on bbf stuff
Finally some good content and im a mopar guy.
You Sir are a Wizard ! Love all the info thanks Richard !
I got 460 in my 71 lincoln mark 3 and 460 in my 75 f250 2wd.
I'm GM, Mopar guy, like them all though. That said I forgot about the 460. My friends dad had a 69 marquis, 428, 429, can't remember exactly, what I do remember was being pinned in the back seat when his lead foot father drove. Holy moly that land yacht could scoot.
429. 365 HP stock engine. Ran smooth. Until you punched it.
Oh yes, always a big block guy even though i've never really owned one.. When i was 7yrs old i remember me leaning fowards on the center console of my pop's 84 Bronco with the 351W n he floored it n i freaken hit the back seat so hard, felt like a jet..lol Finally let off on a sharp curve n i felt i could breath again.. Floored it again n i hit the seat again..lol i can only fantisize of the pleasure you felt on that big block.. 😬😲😁 My facial expressions..lol
@@P71ScrewHead I remember it feeling like the G force of a roller coaster. Stomach up in the throat, no seat belts as usual. If you were looking right for example, that's how you stayed until he let out of it. This was a 4 door standard land barge.
@@jesse75 This 69 was a basic car from that era, now that you mentioned it didn't rumble or anything like that. When he floored it, we looked like Dan Aykroyd and Chevy Chase coming out of the G force simulator.
I remember back in 1976 my brother bought a 1972 Buick Gran Sport Stage 1with that sweet 455!
Dark blue with white leather interior.
Many, many long burn outs and more than a few surprised opponents in the rear view mirror!
That was a great old-school iron headed bunch of builds. You were pretty lucky to score that old pre 70s block with the overbored slugs in it, that's a wrecker find right there. From the days when 500 HP was a huge deal and not every driveway could brag about numbers like that.
Would have been nice to see a comparison of the EFI 460 heads but I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that they're probably pigs and would be hard pressed to make any real power so I won't snivel too long and hard. Plus the hassle of digging some out of a wrecking yard and setting up the EFI just to have 1973 power levels. Yay. But yeah, that was a fun series of dyno tests from 'the other guys'.
Actually the stock EFI heads flow very well. Take 15 minutes and Do a little research.
@@andersonsprairieviewfarm2552 Intake side is a huge improvement over the old stuff, maybe exh too but they are still real weezy
Very good content on the Ford Richard.
Thanks for sharing.
Take care, Ed.
I was especially impressed at the ported cast iron cylinder head's horsepower and torque numbers. Thanks Richard!
All of the torque!!
Great video, not too long and much information!
Thank you sir! Very informative
Would love to see a part two with Kasse heads. I’m leaning towards buying a set of P51s. Like to know what to expect
Awesome video.
bbf content
A stock 1970 460 in a Lincoln Continental made 365 HP and 500 ft lbs of torque
Thanks for the info. Very helpful for a little more HP. I have a 85 f250. W/ a 460. I'm going to do the weiland intake. 500 lift Cam. And the headers.
YESSSSSSSS...My blood is blue and When asked my answer is .yes i do have a big blick..lol...richard os king of Building and giving us guys the no bs way to build our cars..and i know i appreciate it so so so much .. his time talent snd knowledge to me and us is priceless...thank you brother ❤
I'm currently working on a 460 in '87 F350 Dually
Let’s see what you can do with a 390 FE stock to mild street(230-240/ .550 cam and RPM air gap and headers and a nice carb)
We found it pretty easy to get 500+ engine dyno horsepers from a relatively cheap, reliable, and street-able 460 with just a MSD, 10.5:1 or so pistons, solid flat lifter cam, springs, adjustable rockers, headers, single plane intake, 850 carb, and mild ported early iron closed chamber heads. Back in the 90;s, it could be done for about $2k for the junkyard core, machining, and parts. Made me wonder why the abundant and unloved 429 / 460 wasn't more popular, especially in NA trucks and fox bodies.
Great Video on the BBF.
Valve Size and Compression Ratio with the MPG Heads would be interesting to know.
MPG does great work with Ford Heads.
I built a 460 and put it in a 1983 4 cylinder mustang. It was a beast
Dont forget the efi 460….
outstanding!!
Let’s see if we can’t get Richard to challenge himself and build a 390 fe with stock heads and stroke. Just compression and cam! Old school is coming back, we are all tired of the ls and the sound. It’s just not the same as old school!
Plain old 68 car 390 2 barrel carb. Dam good engine.
Old skool still kicks their ass gas pump to gas pump..lol
I have not found a 390 FE in the yards
@@richardholdener1727 I don't know what state you live in ?
I know where there are aleast three 390's. In a out of the way farm land area wrecking yard. I've pulled at least 70 engines out of the place. I focused more on the Cleveland and Windsor engines. FE means F!cken Expensive. But I noticed the engine is making a comeback. I've recently sold two of them rebuilt. I found a 360 for cheap. It's nearly finished.
I'd tell you where to get them,$250 , but then the whole world knows.
Be interesting to take a running old stocker. Put it on the Dyno and start from there.
i'd hate to ruffle feathers, but i think some haven't noticed these series are basically, "let's use the boss' equipment and raid the supply closet" material. FE used to stand for "science name for iron" since they also were heavy as guilt :) nowadays you can pick up a roller 351W block, forged 302 slugs, and a $400 stroker crank and have a 392cid that'll give any 390 a run for its money--cheaper, lighter and there's junkyard EFI for it.
ford should have done a lot more with the 390 to go up against the 396 in the mid 1960's. they already had a tripower 401 hp formula from 1961. But then Tasca wouldn't have the need to give us the 428 CJ. And of course too bad the 429 didn't become a performance engine until the end of the era--it moved Torinos down the quarter in 13 seconds, pretty stout for 1970. The Lima series would have battled the rat for dominence in the 1970's if only there'd been more CJ heads lying around for hot rodders, but the Rat had been out since 1965 so it had more parts at affordable prices.
Very nice 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
I'd love to see what this would make with an aggressive roller cam and 11:1 compression.
They had holly 750s stock. So that’s a great baseline
Right on
I’d love to see you put a set of f3 heads on one, with a carb adapter to the stock intake.
Then run a ported set for comparison. The numbers I’ve seen from ported fuelie heads flow almost what ported D0VE heads do.
Keep the Ford stuff coming! I still would love to see a 2.3 SOHC turbo build on Other Guys!
Interesting that in the cam swap the peak torque remained pretty much the same and at the same rpm.
i might be buying a 1969 Lincoln Mark 3 with a 460 BBF, wish me luck..lol
Great stuff. I am building the same motor as the 400 hp variant for a 4x4 truck. I suspect you are spot on why the low end torque dropped off. It would have been interesting to stick with stock intake for comparison in that config.
Would love to see your take on a turbo 460!
I do know there was a bolt in stroker kit that got you to 585 cubes pretty cheap
I know Chevy guys love the BBC, but I love the big block Ford.
Boooooooost it!
would love to see a twin turbo set up added to the 500hp version
just a suggestion, Richard, I'd like to see a comparison between running a gasoline type fuel, versus methanol (100%). I think there are some surprises to be found with simply a fuel change by itself.
I would love to do an M1 test
What's your Opinion of the Police Interceptor Heads?
I almost bought a Ford racing 460 aluminum engine years ago that was based from the 351w. When i decided i was gonna get the 460, Ford discontinued it and i settled on the 427 version instead.
Missed oportunity..
Those numbers are better than 454 with ovals
Word!
I had a CobraJet mustang back in the 70’s…
I’d trade a couple fingers to get that back.
Sell a kidney under the table. By the car back.
I know where a 71 CJ 429 is for sale. Needs restoration.
@@jesse75 - Probably not the same one I lost my virginity in…. 😎🎶🎵
Do you happen to remember the total timing number that the stock ford liked? Enjoy your content. Thk you.
I would like to see a EFI motor built up in stages concentrating more on torque. using the EFI. there are a lot of truck owners wondering about this.
His opening makes me think of a Supra joke I read on The Corral probably 2 decades ago or more. What do 300, 400, and 500 horsepower Supras have in common? 12 second time slips.
Mine drags all 6500+lbs of ots surrounding truck around pretty well for a listed 230hp.
My 460 is a 477, Trickflow290 heads, Lunati 642/642--- 278/286 adv solid roller, Forged 9.4 Racetech pistons , stock crank , h beam rods, Torke r2 intake, 2 3582 turbos. port matched and ARP studs top and bottom.
It sounds like it has quite the appetite for Hellcats and Vettes!! That sounds really fun!🤪😳
@richard holdener do you have a part number for those forged flat top probe pistons from about the 7 minute mark?
Imagine it with good present day cam and heads.
The solid cam didn't make that much more power than the hydraulic but it was a big difference in cam timing. A 236/240 is a lot more livable for street driving than a 264/268.
Maybe the head flow of the ported stock heads was the limiting factor?
I've found with mechanicals they don't lose much down low with the gain of smaller lifter lash vs piston movement in a hydraulic and should be judged more at the advertised .006 duration to compare in drivability.
Test some kaase heads vs some stock and aftermarket heads
A big block Ford is built with better stronger parts than a Chevrolet 💜🏁
Lmao yea 460 had 2 bolt main cast crank real hp monster all what 260hp factory
Those stock cams I don't think even break 450 lift and the heads that I have are like 97cc combustion chambers.
HEY RICHARD THE 436 HP WAS IN ON PUMP GAS
YES
R.H. .............do you put new timing chains , with cam change ??????
Where could I find the crane camshaft or similar cam?
What’s compression on the 500hp
Grab a 427 cammer from the junk yard and do a big bang! Peer pressure😂
Back in the day I worked on a 68,9,or 70 Lincoln. I thought it was 375 hp. Am I remembering wrong. In a mustang that would fly
My best friend and I put one of those engines in a 67 cougar. You're right.
Those early stock rockers were cast not stamped.
Looking for heads for my 1989 f250 and can't find any information on what heads will work
Factory rated at 360 HP until after 1970. (DOVE engines). "385" series Ford engines are capable of high HP. 429 SCJ factory engines actual HP was 485 HP.
Watching to see what I can do to my mercruiser 3.7 which used this ford 460( well half of it ).
Any ideas would be appreciated
lots of potential
Why is it that most 460s at 10.5 comp, a flat tappet cam and intake make about 450-500 hp. Especially with ported stock heads. And he makes 610.
Bloodviking
Great video currently putting a similar combination to the 500hp one. Did you up the size of valves?
yes
What size valves and what brand of valves?Oh and I'm using a 250 shot with good Forged pistons.
Cant beleive some of those heads had a stock 2.00 inch intake valve.
Thats sbc stuff
What was the static and dynamic compression ratio on the 500/600 hp 460? What fuel was used? Thanks in advance
11:1 static 91 octane
I know youve done a video about the gen 3 hemi 5.7 before, but could you do a new video with the 392 manifold, and holley intakes on the eagle 5.7?
I don't have a 392
@@richardholdener1727 they are pretty easy to find, probably easier to find than some of the chevy intakes youve got
@@jameswhitesell3076 Probably never see one in Ca junkyards. If they did get one in the yard guys would snap it up
Is this on pump gas?
We have a Big Block 429 In the 1956 Ford F100 we pulled the motor and C6 transmission from a 73 Ford T-bird Back in Probably 05-06 We Bought the whole car titled running Driving For $1000 The Rebuilt Motor Had about 3500 Miles and the Transmission had About 10K Miles. We were looking for an old 5.0 Mustang for the Motor swap But this 429 was Just too Good Of a deal to Pass up On. What is your Thoughts on the Best way to reduce weight from the Motor? By Best i mean what would give the most Bang for The Buck? Its so rare to find Big Block Ford content.
alum heads and intake
Such an underrated engine.
If 429/460s came in cars like camaros, chevelles, novas el caminos corvettes etc like a certain brand x’s big block did, the hot rod world would look way different. Ford stuck with the old FE way longer than they should have.
@@mitchanderson5813 very true, chevy had the rat in 1965 and the 429 didn't reach cobra jet status until 1970, where it made 13 second cars just as the party was coming to a close.
Could the 460 be capable of holding up to high revs for drifting?
Mine was a 2bolt sprayed plenty and never broke.
Even cammed it never saw more than 6k...5500 was all you needed they made so much torque from low rpm on you just hit the next gear. You could break the tires loose at a lower rpm for drifting.
Where's part 2?😊
Hope Richard finds time for part 2 soon
ruclips.net/video/AvSxqB0ogps/видео.htmlsi=V0n9x4ESUyf6kqU6. Found it he already did it
You know why they painted Ford engines blue? So they don't scare the fish!⚓
As a current 460 owner and a previous 351M (boat anchor) owner I find this joke hilarious!!!! Well done sir.
Will a roller cam make more hp and tq across the curve?
the ramp rate and specs are different on the two cams
Hey Rich , 460, vs Ls 6.0 in a budget n horse power, what is better project ? Thanks
@@bigboreracing356 Sure, but in a drag race the lil 460 kicks it's ass..
@@bigboreracing356 I agree any engine can beat another.. There's a guy who competed in Street Outlawz recently with a 4.6L 2v n won 🏆or came close to it.. Tiny 281ci v8..lol 😆🤣
Ls 6.0 will makeover 500hp with a cam change only and longtube headers.lmao show me a stock 460 cam only and headers make over 500
@@David-er1cy Cam n headers you'll still get gapped from the huge amount of trq difference..
Where is the shop that ported those stock ford heads ?
MPG in Colorado
Anyone dine a 659 stroker?? I can’t find any content
i have a 96 f250 7.5l....what do you recommend to awaken my tired beast???
cam, heads, intake, boost
@@richardholdener1727 do you have any specific intakes and heads you recommend....
When did Ford quit dogging down the 460 by retarding the timing chain set. I know in the late 1970's these engines where fuel sucking dogs. I had one in a 1979 F 150 Camper Special.
72 turned into a turd.
I b would like to see numbers for th efi Bb f
What could I do with my efi 95?
cam, headers, ported heads