It’s not insane. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. You’re probably a kid. Think for yourself instead of copying other peoples vocabulary kid.
@@ethanmorofsky6448you don’t want to focus on increasing the weak aspects of a pokémon’s base stats, rather increase their strong points, it’s better to embrace attack deoxys’ amazing attack and terrible defence rather than to try and salvage his defence stats
Speed form is a balance bulk and offense form with high speed, letting it have interesting plays in more roles than just set up. However, it being the fastest taunt user and fastest hazard setter makes it very difficult to justify any other niche for it since everyone wants hazards for game control. Its not bad. Its definitely better than normal form Deoxys. It's just its one niche it is literally the best of options to use for that niche, so its basically unheard of to run any other set for it.
@@TornadoGames1 Prankster triggers same priority as things like Quick Attack, meaning S Deoxys has means to damage an opposing Prankster mon that wishes to try and use Prankster Taunt. Prankster Klefki currently is the only mon that has +1 priority hazards. Given its amazing typing it also can manage a bit better defensively than S Deoxys to boot. S Deoxys is the fastest hazard setter and Taunt user that does not have priority on set up.
@@black-redpill3 unless you run tera or items, Arceus and Ursaluna are like the only relevant mons that can actually do that 252+ Atk Arceus Fake Out vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Deoxys-Attack: 211-249 (87.5 - 103.3%) -- 25% chance to OHKO 252+ Atk Ursaluna Fake Out vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Deoxys-Attack: 235-277 (97.5 - 114.9%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO
@@ctoooc 252+ Atk Technician Persian Fake Out vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Deoxys-Attack: 222-262 (92.1 - 108.7%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO (it also gets Feint, which always KOs after Fake Out if you get a lucky survive roll) If your criteria is relevant Fake Out mons, Ursaluna and Arceus both cannot learn Fake Out. Of the relevant meta mons that can learn Fake Out, such as Grimmisnarl, Incineroar and Rhillaboom, all of them do above half with no items factored. Paired with priority options such as Sucker Punch and Grassy Glide, the most A-Deoxys is going to pull off before fainting is a laughable E speed that has no chance to KO any of them in return from full. Bonus calcs for the road: 252 Atk Pure Power Medicham-Mega Fake Out vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Deoxys-Attack: 226-266 (93.7 - 110.3%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO 252+ Atk Parental Bond Kangaskhan-Mega Fake Out vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Deoxys-Attack: 271-320 (112.4 - 132.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
@@ctooocdeoxys attack is literally just a wet noodle. Yes, it dishes out tons of damage, but it can get outprioritized by fake out and mega ray is objectively better, being WAY BULKIER and still having 180/180 offensive stats
Deoxys speed is really, really good as a hazard setter to the point where in singles, at least it is banned to and good in the ubers tier. The fact that a hazard setter is and has been too oppressive for the main competitive tier really says how good it is although I am not sure it was good in gen 3 for hazards but probably for more offense oriented reason as stealth rocks didn't exist until gen 4. It is either the second or the best form to attack form. Defense has been ubers due to similar reasons as speed but not only has it not really been good but in the unofficial national dex tiers, it is ru bl which is just below uu which is below ou and uu bl which is below ubers and third place is normal as it is diet attack but it is too strong even in nat dex.
You are super high if speed is at last. He is probably number 1 or 2. Strictly better than defense, since it does the same job but better, incredibly bulky for a pokemon that fast and an amazing lead. Meanwhile deoxys normal is just deoxys attack but worse
@@nicmalugin9287 do you even play proper battles to know this or do u just do playthrough because assuning deoxys attack is good when it gets destroyed by marshadow shadow sneak and is used less than even deoxys defense. Speed form as a sash lead is WAY better
@@ctoooc Where is Deoxys-D more used than Deoxys-A? The only one which could match its viability is Deoxys-S since there pretty mich on par in viability ranking. Deoxys-D is pretty bad since there better options.
@@ctoooc it has a higher usage in Ubers than Deoxys defense. Defense form is the only form that has ever dropped from Ubers as well and is by far the worst. It's incredible defense is trivialized by it's laughable hp stat and it really only has a niche as a pp staller.
Im pretty sure deoxys speed is the best form competitively and it defined the metagame of ou and ubers for years being one of if not the best pokemon you could use
Btw deoxys normal imo should have a base 50 in hp and 110 on everything else so as it is the baseline for the rest of the forms and can be different than diet attack form.
Speed is literally the best one competitively because of exactly what this guy says. Its the best at getting hazards up which is crazy important. May not be glamorous but it serves its purpose exceedingly well. Better than any other form serves their purpose.
Competitively speaking it should be like this : 1. Deo-A 2. Deo-N 3. Deo-S 4. Deo-D (Especially since he doesn't look good in RU he's ranked at C+ in Viability rankings over there)
In the main games attack Deoxys does really well despite having next to nothing Defenes due to speed being a thing in the main games that determines which Mon attacks first and thus attack form Deoxys is still really fast, but not quite as fast as the speed form obviously but it is the 2nd fastest Deoxys forma while having insane offense that it is still basically out speeding anything that isn't speed form Deoxys and thus with insane stats it likely to one hitko everything while attacking first thus making a good sweeper as it's able to outspesd and one hit ko to avoid being attacked. In Pokemon Go however Attack Deoxys is the worst since speed stat isn't a thing nor is it the determining factor on which Mon hits first as that has to do with moveset. Thus in Pokemon Go attack Deoxys is the least viable and pretty much same with normal as it's defenses are similar with just being alittle bit more defenses for a little bit less offense than the attack but still not enough defense to hold it, still close to nothing. Thus in Pokemon Go the best most viable Deoxys is Defense due to being really good and viable mainly in Ultra league but also great league as well
Heres my ranking from worst to best :) 4: eeh defense form is too akward 3: speed form's "mask thingy" looks really weird 2: he protec! He be Attack form! And most importanly hes my second favorite 1: normal is rad and will forever look the coolest
Now it’s rarely used and still it’s a drop for both of them both were ubers from release till gen 9 I ain’t counting gen 8 cuz they were in national dex
In games speed is not that useful you can still get knocked out but real workd if you can't catch him you can't beat him and he will continuously attack doing hit and run
This guy clearly has no clue about this topic. Base form should be place 4 w/o doubt since there’s no reason to run it if you can run Deoxys-A. So it’s pretty much unviable. With that said Deoxys-D is on place 3 since it’s mono Psychic which isn’t s good defensive typing, there’s also no reason to run it over other Psychic walls like Necrozma-DM. While both Deoxys-A and Deoxys-S are pretty mich on par in terms of viability I’d also give the first place to Deoxys-A since it was and is a pretty potent sweeper and was a little higher ranked in past Gens which give a slightly edge to it.
"Wet toilet paper nuke" is insane 💀
It has like 1hp but has like 230 attack lol
It’s not insane. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. You’re probably a kid. Think for yourself instead of copying other peoples vocabulary kid.
WET TOILET PAPER NUKE GO!
See if I could obtain deoxys….In attack form I’d prioritize raising its speed AND defense to make up for such things.
@@ethanmorofsky6448you don’t want to focus on increasing the weak aspects of a pokémon’s base stats, rather increase their strong points, it’s better to embrace attack deoxys’ amazing attack and terrible defence rather than to try and salvage his defence stats
“What is he supposed to do? Taunt then set up Steath Rocks?” Competitive Deoxys-speed: Yes
Me/smogon ubers: yes or spikes or knock off
You can even use magic coat to protect taunts from other hazard setters and taunters
Me playing VGC: Deoxys? Nope never seen it
Speed form is a balance bulk and offense form with high speed, letting it have interesting plays in more roles than just set up. However, it being the fastest taunt user and fastest hazard setter makes it very difficult to justify any other niche for it since everyone wants hazards for game control.
Its not bad. Its definitely better than normal form Deoxys. It's just its one niche it is literally the best of options to use for that niche, so its basically unheard of to run any other set for it.
aren't prankster mons faster?
@@TornadoGames1
Prankster triggers same priority as things like Quick Attack, meaning S Deoxys has means to damage an opposing Prankster mon that wishes to try and use Prankster Taunt.
Prankster Klefki currently is the only mon that has +1 priority hazards. Given its amazing typing it also can manage a bit better defensively than S Deoxys to boot.
S Deoxys is the fastest hazard setter and Taunt user that does not have priority on set up.
if i lead with my carylex and a focus stash you are done for
@@NegronJames-yr4lb
Sucker Punch
Speed from that got caught by a septile
“Coming in dead last we have Deoxys Speed forme” imma stop you right there buddy
you do realize Speed form is the best lead in Competitive pokemon. Its almost guaranteed to get up 1 entry hazard even if its up against a scarfer
I only want sweepers on my team 😤
@@thatboyminus that's a recipe for disaster. Just saying.
Even Hyper offensive teams need a good Entry
@@vietle8900 hes just gonna get chipped by hazards and not run boots and stay in low ladder
@@ctoooc Ikr? Used to be like that back then. Learned the hard way😂
@@vietle8900 Your opinions, m8s.
" wet toilet paper nuke" 😂
Valid?
Def
Gotta say design wise, defense form is my favorite
Thats my favourite
Valid. Tbh they’re all pretty amazing
@@thatboyminus yes they are. Such a great concept of a pokemon
Me Tho
He look so silly like Minecraft😡😡😡
Deoxys Attack is the only one that isn't utilized in competitive play lmao
When you can get OHKOed by Fake Out, people don't want to use it in competitive for very good reasons.
@@black-redpill3 unless you run tera or items, Arceus and Ursaluna are like the only relevant mons that can actually do that
252+ Atk Arceus Fake Out vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Deoxys-Attack: 211-249 (87.5 - 103.3%) -- 25% chance to OHKO
252+ Atk Ursaluna Fake Out vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Deoxys-Attack: 235-277 (97.5 - 114.9%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO
@@ctoooc
252+ Atk Technician Persian Fake Out vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Deoxys-Attack: 222-262 (92.1 - 108.7%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO (it also gets Feint, which always KOs after Fake Out if you get a lucky survive roll)
If your criteria is relevant Fake Out mons, Ursaluna and Arceus both cannot learn Fake Out.
Of the relevant meta mons that can learn Fake Out, such as Grimmisnarl, Incineroar and Rhillaboom, all of them do above half with no items factored. Paired with priority options such as Sucker Punch and Grassy Glide, the most A-Deoxys is going to pull off before fainting is a laughable E speed that has no chance to KO any of them in return from full.
Bonus calcs for the road:
252 Atk Pure Power Medicham-Mega Fake Out vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Deoxys-Attack: 226-266 (93.7 - 110.3%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO
252+ Atk Parental Bond Kangaskhan-Mega Fake Out vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Deoxys-Attack: 271-320 (112.4 - 132.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
@@ctoooc if you include aqua jet quick attack and ice shard since they have the same bp and priority then that list goes up a bit
@@ctooocdeoxys attack is literally just a wet noodle. Yes, it dishes out tons of damage, but it can get outprioritized by fake out and mega ray is objectively better, being WAY BULKIER and still having 180/180 offensive stats
Speed form for a long time was the fastest Pokémon ever before Regieleki came around
Ashes sceptile?
Remember when Sceptile caught speed form Deoxys? Shit was epic
Love the line up of all the deoxys forms! Keep posting the good content!
Deoxys speed is really, really good as a hazard setter to the point where in singles, at least it is banned to and good in the ubers tier. The fact that a hazard setter is and has been too oppressive for the main competitive tier really says how good it is although I am not sure it was good in gen 3 for hazards but probably for more offense oriented reason as stealth rocks didn't exist until gen 4. It is either the second or the best form to attack form. Defense has been ubers due to similar reasons as speed but not only has it not really been good but in the unofficial national dex tiers, it is ru bl which is just below uu which is below ou and uu bl which is below ubers and third place is normal as it is diet attack but it is too strong even in nat dex.
I like how in scarlet/violet he can swap between forms freely and you can give him the best of all his move pools
You are super high if speed is at last. He is probably number 1 or 2. Strictly better than defense, since it does the same job but better, incredibly bulky for a pokemon that fast and an amazing lead. Meanwhile deoxys normal is just deoxys attack but worse
Are you high deoxys speed is worst it’s like your saying the Roman’s didn’t have nukes
@@nicmalugin9287 do you even play proper battles to know this or do u just do playthrough because assuning deoxys attack is good when it gets destroyed by marshadow shadow sneak and is used less than even deoxys defense.
Speed form as a sash lead is WAY better
@@ctoooc Where is Deoxys-D more used than Deoxys-A? The only one which could match its viability is Deoxys-S since there pretty mich on par in viability ranking. Deoxys-D is pretty bad since there better options.
@@ctoooc it has a higher usage in Ubers than Deoxys defense. Defense form is the only form that has ever dropped from Ubers as well and is by far the worst. It's incredible defense is trivialized by it's laughable hp stat and it really only has a niche as a pp staller.
I miss the deoxys form that had a single hand that Nintendo stole from us after gen 5
If anyone played Pokémon Fighters EX before it got deleted from Roblox in 2018, would know Speed Form Deoxys.
Or are a fan of Pokémon would know
Speed form is the best one though in general
or a battle revolution player.
Alomomola with Calm Mind, Substitute, then baton passes to Defense form, with Stored Power, then amnesia with Cosmic Power, that shit wrecks teams.
Im pretty sure deoxys speed is the best form competitively and it defined the metagame of ou and ubers for years being one of if not the best pokemon you could use
But uh it was never in ou besides gen 9 I think
@@Aidiot565 I know that's the funny part
WET TOILET PAPER NUKE LMFAOOOO
"He looks like an astrounot"
My dumb brain:AMO-
Next u should do 'Ranking every ash starter from worst to best ' (base form, middle form, final form)
And I also love "wet toilet paper nuke" 😂😂😂😂
Next top 10 gigantamax forms please❤
My favorite deoxys is defense form because I love his design and attack
"wet toilet paper nuke" best line
The defense form looks like a B-2 Battle Droid.
My like gave u 15 k like 🎉
Btw deoxys normal imo should have a base 50 in hp and 110 on everything else so as it is the baseline for the rest of the forms and can be different than diet attack form.
Speed Form is by far the best, literally has always been a phenomenal suicide lead because it is too fast and has nice bulk.
It dies so easily tho
@@Jay-vx2phnot really
It's a pretty good OU offensive Mon now that it got unbanned from Ubers.
*wet toilet paper nuke* i can already smell i mean fell how strong he is 😂
YES! Attack Deoxys FTW 🙌
speed form is op bruh
Speed is literally the best one competitively because of exactly what this guy says. Its the best at getting hazards up which is crazy important. May not be glamorous but it serves its purpose exceedingly well. Better than any other form serves their purpose.
defense deoxys: 📮
My absolute favourite Pokémon
dude sometimes speed is what mostly matters. and hazards are what makes battles harder.
or knock off to remove items, or most importantly, taunt to prevent opponents from doing anything to impede your hazards.
@@daniellejackson6543 yep and those as well. like even with heavy duty boots stealth rock and spikes are still just as important
Competitively speaking it should be like this :
1. Deo-A
2. Deo-N
3. Deo-S
4. Deo-D (Especially since he doesn't look good in RU he's ranked at C+ in Viability rankings over there)
In the main games attack Deoxys does really well despite having next to nothing Defenes due to speed being a thing in the main games that determines which Mon attacks first and thus attack form Deoxys is still really fast, but not quite as fast as the speed form obviously but it is the 2nd fastest Deoxys forma while having insane offense that it is still basically out speeding anything that isn't speed form Deoxys and thus with insane stats it likely to one hitko everything while attacking first thus making a good sweeper as it's able to outspesd and one hit ko to avoid being attacked. In Pokemon Go however Attack Deoxys is the worst since speed stat isn't a thing nor is it the determining factor on which Mon hits first as that has to do with moveset. Thus in Pokemon Go attack Deoxys is the least viable and pretty much same with normal as it's defenses are similar with just being alittle bit more defenses for a little bit less offense than the attack but still not enough defense to hold it, still close to nothing. Thus in Pokemon Go the best most viable Deoxys is Defense due to being really good and viable mainly in Ultra league but also great league as well
wet toilet paper nuke is probably the best description of DPS (death per second) 🤣
Rank every 'Team Rocket's Pokemon from worst to best
On Pokemon go i found a shiny Deoxys attack form but it ran away i thought it was 100% catch rate it was very low catch rate
Heres my ranking from worst to best :)
4: eeh defense form is too akward
3: speed form's "mask thingy" looks really weird
2: he protec! He be Attack form! And most importanly hes my second favorite
1: normal is rad and will forever look the coolest
Liking because you didn't put Deoxys-D last. I love that form.
You should do a which pokemon got neglected the most.
#4: Deoxys - “he’s just not that good in battle.”
DPP Players: 👀 “HE’S NOT WHAAAAAAT??”
bro has NEVER played or SEEN gen 3-6 ubers
We should get a heauian form of deoxis and have it mega evolve
Speed form is actually better than attack form, especially if you want to use it to setup hazards
Next please rank every dog Pokemon
"If only we could see her take wing"
Ranking every Z move from worst to best
Raquasa says that defence form deoxys is sus
Speed Deoxys is better than the other 3 forms in ORAS, mine in Omega Ruby has all the stats above 200, speed over 400, HP 260. (Level 100)
I just like regular deoxys its just iconic AF too bad I dont have one
"not very good in battle". Tell that to gens 4-6 where it is THE defining suicide lead for HO, and all teams in gen 4
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Speed is number 1 period
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To this day I still say Deoxys should’ve had base 100 in all stats in its normal form like other mythicals at the time.
That would make normal Deoxys suck and it’s already overshadowed by attack
There's no way Deoxys Speed is the worst, is the most viable of all in competitive play...
Defense form over Normal form is absolutely crazy. Never cook again.
I still remember when he called a minor a snack
You know speeed deoxys is best suicide lead in the game right?
😂😂 the ultimate wet paper nuke
Speed form is litetally the most used. (Competitive wise)
Attack form deoxis nukes everything also him Gets scratch deoxis fainted
"Cause he's so thick
Speed from is quite literally the most broken, speed
Playing Radical Red will make u realize how much speed form Deoxys ruins ur teams strategy.
Deoxys Defense is now UnderUsed and the Speed form is OverUsed 😂
Now it’s rarely used and still it’s a drop for both of them both were ubers from release till gen 9 I ain’t counting gen 8 cuz they were in national dex
am I the only one who thinks this guy sounds like aDrive LOL
The defence is slightly weird
Saying speed looks the best should honestly be a crime...
Bro said deoxys speed isn't good in battle
He's niche but atleast give him some acknowledgement
I’ve never seen or heard of any of deoxys forms 😭
Deoxys is my second favorite legendary
Nice 👍
Dyanmax form dyxois let the chat💀💀💀
It doesn't really count cause every Pokemon can dynamax.
In games speed is not that useful you can still get knocked out but real workd if you can't catch him you can't beat him and he will continuously attack doing hit and run
In battle he is the best i dont knoe ehat this dude is talking about even the comments calling him out
he called speed deoxys the worst?? What
He does not know 😔
*cuz he's so thick* 💀💀💀
This guy clearly has no clue about this topic. Base form should be place 4 w/o doubt since there’s no reason to run it if you can run Deoxys-A. So it’s pretty much unviable. With that said Deoxys-D is on place 3 since it’s mono Psychic which isn’t s good defensive typing, there’s also no reason to run it over other Psychic walls like Necrozma-DM. While both Deoxys-A and Deoxys-S are pretty mich on par in terms of viability I’d also give the first place to Deoxys-A since it was and is a pretty potent sweeper and was a little higher ranked in past Gens which give a slightly edge to it.
The defense form is the coolest, we all know this
Should have gotten a mega evolution
Please anyone can tell what is the game name to play with Pokemons . (For mobile)
#3 the original is the best.
Deoxys speed is literally the best out of all of them. Deoxys normal is probably the worst, attack is 3rd worst , defense is 2nd best.
La forme défense pour moi c est la dernière
Speed is like literally the most used one in battle are you high?
Speed form is a sweeper
But attack form recieve like 25% dmg to a resisted move😂
P sure speed and attack form were by far the best forms in comp no?
Number 3 the best Deoxsity
where is the “Go Beyond” form? 😢😢😢
He's thicc? 😱
Speed form Deoxys, I'm fastest
Meanwhile Ash Sceptile I got you b***h
Why is attack form look like the speed form by the way i want to see top 20 normal type or fire type
My bro knows nothing about deoxys competitive metagame
Speed form is legit the only good one lmao
He's so thick💀
Speed and defense are best.