I have a 2017 Cayenne S e hybrid in white and I love it . Iv had mine stage 1 mapped so I’m pushing just shy of 400bhp from the petrol engine with 100bhp electric motor .
The MPG on PHEVs always seems to be like that. You've got to have the right usage patterns to make it work. For my X5 almost all my miles are pure EV, or at least have hybrid. For the odd long trip where I get rubbish MPG it's balanced out by the savings the rest of the time. If you're constantly driving it on empty it's a bad choice.
I really don’t understand this push to full EVs for most people hybrids make way more sense! Electric when tootling around but with the back up of ICE for those longer journeys, makes way more sense than any EV!
Question - if you were to set a hybrid in mixed mode with the battery full how far would you expect to be able to drive and with what economy? This question doesn’t seem to be answered in any review. So in this case 30 - 50 miles on full EV and 20 mpg without battery, but what can it do in combo? Cheers
If it is anything like the similar petrol hybrid in my Touareg, the fuel economy is not great in Petrol only mode, expect 20-30 mpg at best. The engine is the same, I suspect but with a few Porsche tweaks. Combined max range, driving in economy is about 270miles.
I got average of 42mpg in EV mode over 62miles, the battery was flat then and took it back to the dealer, so don't know what it would have done over say 150M. will know after Tuesday 13th as trying again over a longer distance, if not good will order the V6 Petrol instead.
@@Ken-h7shi,how was your experience after long distance? I was planning to buy S E hybrid mainly because of fuel consumption but if it’s not a big difference between hybrid and s model I would reather buy S model. Could you tell my what consumption have you averaged? Thanks
If I remember correctly it did 36mp over about 215 miles 2-runs of 95 motor miles included, on the same journey the V6 Petrol did 26. The S E is a superior car but waiting list is too long and insurance too high for me.
Before you dismiss the performance of the Cayman, Rory, check the figures. The base Cayman with PDK and sports chrono will do 0-62 in 4.7secs and top out at 170. So, no, the Cayenne e-hybrid won't leave it for dead! More positively, I recently had a loaner Cayenne e-hydrid for almost a week, in which I drove about 500 miles. The battery was depleted but I still managed about 30mpg which I thought was pretty good considering the weight of the thing.
that fuel efficiency is a bit disapointing, my 2016 S e hybrid does 20MPG in town and 28MPG out of town on flat battery. Seems like this adds more battery range but for longer distance you pay for it with less MPG than the 2 gen ago cayenne
@7:44 What is the fuel efficiency when driven like it's supposed to? I mean, driven in hybrid mode, beginning with a full battery rather than in EV only mode until the battery runs flat and then driven the rest of the way in hybrid mode? Why would one drive in EV only mode until the battery dies? If one wanted an EV, they'd get that. But it really should be driven in hybrid mode. To me, it just makes more sense that way.
Got the Cayenne S E-Hybrid 6 weeks ago, and it'll do 100 mpg around town with the electric motor doing most of the work in hybrid mode. On a long run the V6 will do just over 30 mpg on it's own if you dont engage the electric motor. You can hold the charge at the same level or charge up to 80% using the V6 when it get's low. It's a case of using different modes depending on the type of driving you are doing.
@@davidnjuguna9477 Just after I got it I drove 2 hours south to Silverstone F1 curcuit and it was over 40 mpg. I was new to the car and didnt know how to get the best mpg. 50mpg would be possible I believe. 750Nm makes for effortless overtakes.
The car is best used as a city ev-only, or hybrid with the battery charged - especially in some traffic. If theres nothing impeding you lr progress, you'll be on the engine almost the whole time without the power savings. Wish there was a snow mode
This car (MY 2022) almost killed my back. The “comfort” seats were not only super uncomfortable and hard, they also had almost no back support, I was falling out of the seat when turning. Sold the car after 1.5 years…
@@Ken-h7s it was the side bolsters that were set too far apart and were not adjustable. I’m 190cm and 95kg, can’t imagine how smaller people sit in those seats, must not be fun.
Now I dream about q9 with this ride, this power and interior as usefull and spacious as in vw Atlas. And audi - please - get rid of all piano black in q9 when it comes.
E-Hybrids are the future. I actually enjoy them. My mom has a panamera platinum 4 e hybrid and it's the best of both worlds. The engine sounds insane! Full on EVs are just such a boring driving experience. They only impress average Joe's that have never been able to afford a quick car.
I was born in a tropical country, and I have the absolute certainty that I would be depressed if I lived in a cold, windy, and wet country like the UK.
And add to the mix a poor choice of interior colors and the stubborn continuation of an insane but very profitable option policy and you get one of the most overpriced SUV's in its segment with a large premium over Mercedes, Audi, Range Rover and BMW and only more affordable than the likes of Lamborghini, Ferrari, Bentley and Rolls-Royce. But nevertheless they seem to be selling like hot cakes...
I had one for half a day (SUV) it had air sus and r/w steering, found the ride too hard for our less than perfect roads, once the battery is flat, (45 miles with careful driving) you have to drive very carefully to get 25mpg. I really wanted to like and order this car, such a shame.
May I ask for an advice- should I lease or buy this car ? Can it be a long lasting 300k miles car ? Is the maintenance too high ? What are the safety ratings compared to a Volvo XC60? A good family SUV ?
1:32 is there a glitch in the matrix or is it just me? Notice the droplets on the window and the steering wheel, they snap change their position like someone just cut something random during editing haha
Why won't these luxury car designers tuck the rear wiper blade under the spoiler on the SUVs? Looks so much better with a clean window (speaking on the non coupe model). I have an OLD Lexus RX with that wiper design and ready to trade up but that piece is driving me mad between the Cayenne and Q8.
Nothing can really beat the Urus, but I love the idea of a Porsche SUV. As long as it's a true 4 seater, it's good. The Cayenne right now is half a 4 seater, because it doesn't have a console like the Ferrari, Lambo, or RR SUVs
Rory, wish you could tell us how that Ferrari SUV measures up to these luxury brand SUVs... it felt like that Ferrari set a new benchmark when it came out...
@@Qugie The one i tried las week averaged 42mpg for the first 45 miles, the battery was flat then and it had only been in hybrid, not just the battery, It would do 16-30 mpg with a flat battery depending on how you drive it
New one has some downgraded quality pieces. Flappy paddles aren't metal, screens cost less, seats are uglier, the external 'porsche' is annoying to clean (in the light bar on the old one), cheapened the overhead controls, and a few other things. Extra battery capacity/range sounds good, but it's a case-by-case thing. Its heavier and the engine is weaker (compensated by stronger emotor - which is a good thing). Also, keep in mind that its much more expensive. Happy I got my last-year model of the pre-refresh. Also, I love the analogue tach.
The 2024 Porsche Ceyenne e-hybrid is almost identical to the 2023 model year (not brand new as this video will want you to believe). This SUV remains painfully slow when driven in electric only mode since you only use the small electric motor that has to move now even more mass given the larger battery (I have driven both of them). Thus don’t believe the Porsche marketing pitch and either go all combustion or all electric if you want to have a fun SUV whenever you accelerate. P.S. I expected more from this channel especially describing dynamics of electric only driving
I used to be a big fan of porsche . I owned a 911, spyder and cayenne. When i moved to china, that all changed. Chinese manufacters are lightyears ahead i totally forgot what luxery is about. where are porsche : massage chair, monitors to watch tv , beautiful seats like in the s class, fridge , blinds ? oh but performance huehuehue. no chinese EV's have similar power , but also more range oh and lets not talk about the price .... I hope the west can enjoy true luxery soon enough without having to break the bank
So, a Touareg R PHEV, with 8 more horse power and a slightly more powerful hybrid motor… which is also the same engine as in the Bentley Bentayga hybrid…
@@Floridos that’s the advantage of being part of a huge conglomerate, the parts bin is massive! And they are so skilful with their brand hierarchy and pricing points, so that one brand does not tread on the other’s toes, both in price and image wise. As A Touareg R owner, I have to say that the economy of the petrol engine (V6 335bhp) is horrendous!
Terrible ride in the latest Touareg, and very low driving position (Might as well have a car!) nothing like as good as the old model, new Cayenne is far superior to the new Touareg in every way.
@@Ken-h7s without the air suspension I agree. And the seats in the mk2 were the best, like sitting in a Chesterfield armchair! I actually like the driving position for the driving I do, and the body shape makes it less vulnerable to wind buffeting - something I appreciate on the M6 up t’north!
*when you upshift, you can feel a torque interuption, and that means you can feel the gears" If it was for example some Hyundai, it would be a bad thing 😊 Power of the brand at its finest 😊 Nevertheless, great test, great channel, keep up with good work.
A lot of non-cayenne owners leaving comments here. Brilliant SUV compared to other SUV options out there.
Rory you’re a delightful addition to my weekend mornings. Keep doing your thing! 4:04 is such a cool feature honestly
I have a 2017 Cayenne S e hybrid in white and I love it . Iv had mine stage 1 mapped so I’m pushing just shy of 400bhp from the petrol engine with 100bhp electric motor .
The MPG on PHEVs always seems to be like that. You've got to have the right usage patterns to make it work. For my X5 almost all my miles are pure EV, or at least have hybrid. For the odd long trip where I get rubbish MPG it's balanced out by the savings the rest of the time. If you're constantly driving it on empty it's a bad choice.
3:35 Shock absorbing centre console. Cool.
Hi, that is not an S E Hybrid. It’s the base E Hybrid. The S is 520hp.
544 here in the Netherlands.
A not so great bit of editing to correct the error…………
Your are conar
He didn’t say it was. At 1:40 he clearly says it’s the Cayenne e-hybrid.
@@trevormacdougall9385it has been edited since I posted the comment.
I really don’t understand this push to full EVs for most people hybrids make way more sense! Electric when tootling around but with the back up of ICE for those longer journeys, makes way more sense than any EV!
You’re acting like we can only have 1 car.
@@kristianFL Most people in the world can only have one car! Not everyone is loaded!
@@joebloggs4191 In that case, you're probably not buying a Cayenne.
The more I look at Porsche Cayenne the more I like it
Gts for me
Beautiful car ❤
My only draw back with the cayenne is that the front is a little too wedge shaped
So funny about the wireless charging compartment staying cold to keep your chocolates from melting. That's 😂
SOLD! 😅
great vid as always mate - but ill be keeping the X5 50e ( fyi dealer info - you can expect the cold to knock off 15 miles of range )
You talked about the towing! Thumbs up for that. This and the X5 are both really nice for towing.
Who loves Rory presentation …? The best in the game right now 🎉
Love your reviews ✌
Hybrids are the best compromise, we just need manufacturers to work out how to make them lighter
I wish you would state what extras it has as it changes the handling and sound significantly with or without certain options?
The active sway bars if optioned are bananas, for such a big heavy tall car to corner so flat with so much front end bite is just incredible
Question - if you were to set a hybrid in mixed mode with the battery full how far would you expect to be able to drive and with what economy? This question doesn’t seem to be answered in any review. So in this case 30 - 50 miles on full EV and 20 mpg without battery, but what can it do in combo? Cheers
If it is anything like the similar petrol hybrid in my Touareg, the fuel economy is not great in Petrol only mode, expect 20-30 mpg at best. The engine is the same, I suspect but with a few Porsche tweaks. Combined max range, driving in economy is about 270miles.
I got average of 42mpg in EV mode over 62miles, the battery was flat then and took it back to the dealer, so don't know what it would have done over say 150M. will know after Tuesday 13th as trying again over a longer distance, if not good will order the V6 Petrol instead.
@@Ken-h7shi,how was your experience after long distance? I was planning to buy S E hybrid mainly because of fuel consumption but if it’s not a big difference between hybrid and s model I would reather buy S model. Could you tell my what consumption have you averaged? Thanks
If I remember correctly it did 36mp over about 215 miles 2-runs of 95 motor miles included, on the same journey the V6 Petrol did 26. The S E is a superior car but waiting list is too long and insurance too high for me.
That reads like a mathematic word puzzle. I hate those. Cheers.
For sure the best SUV at the moment , the facelift is killing it !❤
10:28 Yes thank you for saying this they need 2 hear it even the Honda Civic watchers!
Your given information is wrong. The boot space in coupe hybrid is just 404L, but you say it is more than 700
@@mariusrumbinas4932 that I was wondering how coupe e hybrid can have such a big boot???
Please please review the new 2024 bmw alpina B8 and bmw alpina XB7
Wonderful car love it
Before you dismiss the performance of the Cayman, Rory, check the figures. The base Cayman with PDK and sports chrono will do 0-62 in 4.7secs and top out at 170. So, no, the Cayenne e-hybrid won't leave it for dead! More positively, I recently had a loaner Cayenne e-hydrid for almost a week, in which I drove about 500 miles. The battery was depleted but I still managed about 30mpg which I thought was pretty good considering the weight of the thing.
Rory review the XB7 and how it’s different from the M60i x7 please! Great work!!
Love Apple car play but I wish you could have smaller icons. They’re like 3x the size
Mine are 4x
Mine is like 14 📏
As a German it is so satisfying to hear english speakers say PORSCHÉ!!!!
that fuel efficiency is a bit disapointing, my 2016 S e hybrid does 20MPG in town and 28MPG out of town on flat battery. Seems like this adds more battery range but for longer distance you pay for it with less MPG than the 2 gen ago cayenne
*The cool compartment for phones/chocolate has sold me😂 I love me some Cadbury*
@7:44 What is the fuel efficiency when driven like it's supposed to? I mean, driven in hybrid mode, beginning with a full battery rather than in EV only mode until the battery runs flat and then driven the rest of the way in hybrid mode? Why would one drive in EV only mode until the battery dies? If one wanted an EV, they'd get that. But it really should be driven in hybrid mode. To me, it just makes more sense that way.
Got the Cayenne S E-Hybrid 6 weeks ago, and it'll do 100 mpg around town with the electric motor doing most of the work in hybrid mode. On a long run the V6 will do just over 30 mpg on it's own if you dont engage the electric motor. You can hold the charge at the same level or charge up to 80% using the V6 when it get's low. It's a case of using different modes depending on the type of driving you are doing.
@stevecook706 Thanks! On long drives with the electric motor engaged, what does it do?
@@davidnjuguna9477 Just after I got it I drove 2 hours south to Silverstone F1 curcuit and it was over 40 mpg. I was new to the car and didnt know how to get the best mpg. 50mpg would be possible I believe. 750Nm makes for effortless overtakes.
@stevecook706 Thanks! Those figures are perfectly acceptable for an SUV that size.
Please when will you review the Stelvio Quadrifoglio?
I just realized recently there’s a lot of sex bots in RUclips comment sections, but they actually post normal comments like “I love your channel” 😂
Nice Porsche Cayenne E Hybrid
Masterclass at the modern SUV
What’s the album you’re listening to please?
Interesting choice of radio station.
The car is best used as a city ev-only, or hybrid with the battery charged - especially in some traffic. If theres nothing impeding you lr progress, you'll be on the engine almost the whole time without the power savings. Wish there was a snow mode
I liked that older off-road looking Porsche at the beginning. Give us a video on that!
Great road! Edmundbyers to Stanhope! 🥰
What has been upgraded from the 2024 version?
What about a review of defender 110 2024 on a rainy season
Good video as always but maybe overstating the “cheap running costs” of the hybrid….
This car (MY 2022) almost killed my back. The “comfort” seats were not only super uncomfortable and hard, they also had almost no back support, I was falling out of the seat when turning. Sold the car after 1.5 years…
They should have had 4 way electrically adjustable lumbar adjustment, they do in the new model anyway
@@Ken-h7s it was the side bolsters that were set too far apart and were not adjustable. I’m 190cm and 95kg, can’t imagine how smaller people sit in those seats, must not be fun.
Stutcliffe said the four wheel steer good but you’ve demonstrated a huge flaw
that car didn't have it, it's not standard, when fitted they do turn at very low speed but not standing still or only just moving
I have one on the way
€120k, I’ll put it on my lotto list
It’s good that we can share our European technology with you. 👍🏻
Now I dream about q9 with this ride, this power and interior as usefull and spacious as in vw Atlas. And audi - please - get rid of all piano black in q9 when it comes.
E-Hybrids are the future. I actually enjoy them. My mom has a panamera platinum 4 e hybrid and it's the best of both worlds. The engine sounds insane! Full on EVs are just such a boring driving experience. They only impress average Joe's that have never been able to afford a quick car.
I was born in a tropical country, and I have the absolute certainty that I would be depressed if I lived in a cold, windy, and wet country like the UK.
Wonderful car and great video anyway
After 20 years you get used to that weather 😂😉👍
you get used to it within 2 years haha
Spring in U.K. can be beautiful
Maybe; but when winter is over the weather gets better and it’s a lot warmer. Get to experience everything rather than just one climate
Slow response touchscreen, more piano black scratchable plastic, pointless little hole where shifter used to be...
Terrible, honestly
And add to the mix a poor choice of interior colors and the stubborn continuation of an insane but very profitable option policy and you get one of the most overpriced SUV's in its segment with a large premium over Mercedes, Audi, Range Rover and BMW and only more affordable than the likes of Lamborghini, Ferrari, Bentley and Rolls-Royce. But nevertheless they seem to be selling like hot cakes...
I like hotcakes 🥞?
Where is this green lane in the video?
Did I get it right about the complaint of 40.7 mpg for a car with 470 ps and 2,425 kg?
I had one for half a day (SUV) it had air sus and r/w steering, found the ride too hard for our less than perfect roads, once the battery is flat, (45 miles with careful driving) you have to drive very carefully to get 25mpg. I really wanted to like and order this car, such a shame.
Thats not the way to drive one, you drive in EV mixed mode. I got 33mpg over 198 mixd driving miles, at the 62 mile point iw was showing 42.5 mpg
They missed with the Taycan...
I wish to own one, one day, great
May I ask for an advice- should I lease or buy this car ? Can it be a long lasting 300k miles car ? Is the maintenance too high ? What are the safety ratings compared to a Volvo XC60? A good family SUV ?
Loved it
Need full leather in that interior for it to truly feel Porsche
Any variant with the V8 is a win for me
With this nice review you're expecting to offer you the gt3 rs
1:32 is there a glitch in the matrix or is it just me?
Notice the droplets on the window and the steering wheel, they snap change their position like someone just cut something random during editing haha
Why won't these luxury car designers tuck the rear wiper blade under the spoiler on the SUVs? Looks so much better with a clean window (speaking on the non coupe model). I have an OLD Lexus RX with that wiper design and ready to trade up but that piece is driving me mad between the Cayenne and Q8.
I think my GR86 might have managed that off-roading 😂
And been a million times more fun too
How many seats ???
You couod literally review a trolley n I'd still watch it
The best car channel on Earth!
Price points?
e-hybrid system isn't a good function for the Cayennes🙃
This car is mines I'm speaking this into being. Spirits💕💕
I pray for Porsche to change the rear look especially the sucked in taillight and the exhaust end system looks not so fancy
Nothing can really beat the Urus, but I love the idea of a Porsche SUV.
As long as it's a true 4 seater, it's good.
The Cayenne right now is half a 4 seater, because it doesn't have a console like the Ferrari, Lambo, or RR SUVs
The Urus rides like it has concrete struts. Porsche offers a much better balance at satisfying both types of drivers.
Urus -around 80% of Audi's parts. Buy RSQ8 for a half price - a no Brainer!!!
@@donnattello1940 Is the RSQ8 a 4 seater?
@@Navoii. 5
Exactly, and I like my cars with 4 seats.
It does look comfortable, though
Rory, wish you could tell us how that Ferrari SUV measures up to these luxury brand SUVs... it felt like that Ferrari set a new benchmark when it came out...
The Ferrari is about 3x the price…..
Auto Traders Editing skills are getting fairly good these days! Not going to lie :)
Nice review as always, please next video the Range Rover sport SV
Not good. Electric range these days needs to be around 50 to 60 miles.
Porsche doesn’t miss these days, naa bro, Porsches don’t miss at all!!!!
king suv ❤
Actually prefer the look of the old version.
This ain’t an SUV… it a mom-mobile
Yep, but Dad's like them too.
What is the fuel consumption on this car?
he said about 25 MPG in Hybrid mode.
@@Qugie that’s a lot since s model is around 17 MPG. I thought it’s going to be a big difference between plug in and regular V8
@@Qugie The one i tried las week averaged 42mpg for the first 45 miles, the battery was flat then and it had only been in hybrid, not just the battery, It would do 16-30 mpg with a flat battery depending on how you drive it
no that was after the battery was flat but driving carefully, around 14 when booting it
what about reliability?
All this time I thought he was saying KN...? What is KN? He was saying Cayenne.. Lol
My base cayman does 0 to 60 in 4.1
New one has some downgraded quality pieces. Flappy paddles aren't metal, screens cost less, seats are uglier, the external 'porsche' is annoying to clean (in the light bar on the old one), cheapened the overhead controls, and a few other things. Extra battery capacity/range sounds good, but it's a case-by-case thing. Its heavier and the engine is weaker (compensated by stronger emotor - which is a good thing). Also, keep in mind that its much more expensive. Happy I got my last-year model of the pre-refresh. Also, I love the analogue tach.
Great review!
The 2024 Porsche Ceyenne e-hybrid is almost identical to the 2023 model year (not brand new as this video will want you to believe). This SUV remains painfully slow when driven in electric only mode since you only use the small electric motor that has to move now even more mass given the larger battery (I have driven both of them). Thus don’t believe the Porsche marketing pitch and either go all combustion or all electric if you want to have a fun SUV whenever you accelerate.
P.S. I expected more from this channel especially describing dynamics of electric only driving
best driven in EV mode, using electric only for town driving / shortish journeys and then recharge.
Exactly! Rory had no clue how to use one properly!
I also hate it when my chocolate melts while I'm charging it
Disappointed by the relatively minor upgrades and poor leg room in the back seat
I love this guy 😊
When is the Cayenne full EV coming?
Who would want that ?
They say 2026
If car prices have doubled but peoples wages haven't how do they sell any cars.
That is a conundrum right there. Resolved with a massive increase in consumer debt.
🔥🔥🔥
I love your saying Porsche, like how it’s really pronounced. Not like „porsch“ or whatever englisch speaking people say.
I used to be a big fan of porsche . I owned a 911, spyder and cayenne.
When i moved to china, that all changed.
Chinese manufacters are lightyears ahead
i totally forgot what luxery is about. where are porsche : massage chair, monitors to watch tv , beautiful seats like in the s class, fridge , blinds ?
oh but performance huehuehue. no chinese EV's have similar power , but also more range
oh and lets not talk about the price ....
I hope the west can enjoy true luxery soon enough without having to break the bank
So, a Touareg R PHEV, with 8 more horse power and a slightly more powerful hybrid motor… which is also the same engine as in the Bentley Bentayga hybrid…
Indeed, but a smaller battery than the Cayenne.
@@Floridos that’s the advantage of being part of a huge conglomerate, the parts bin is massive! And they are so skilful with their brand hierarchy and pricing points, so that one brand does not tread on the other’s toes, both in price and image wise. As A Touareg R owner, I have to say that the economy of the petrol engine (V6 335bhp) is horrendous!
Terrible ride in the latest Touareg, and very low driving position (Might as well have a car!) nothing like as good as the old model, new Cayenne is far superior to the new Touareg in every way.
@@Ken-h7s without the air suspension I agree. And the seats in the mk2 were the best, like sitting in a Chesterfield armchair! I actually like the driving position for the driving I do, and the body shape makes it less vulnerable to wind buffeting - something I appreciate on the M6 up t’north!
That hvac control look horrendous more like a white good! Like most cars these days!!
*when you upshift, you can feel a torque interuption, and that means you can feel the gears"
If it was for example some Hyundai, it would be a bad thing 😊
Power of the brand at its finest 😊
Nevertheless, great test, great channel, keep up with good work.
mate 238 unread messages??
Not a fan of its looks or interior. I'm sure it's a solid SUV though.
what stop somewhere every 45m and charge the battery Rory? Lol
He didn't know how to drive one properly!! you drive in EV mixed mode. I did 198 mixed driving miles in that mode 33mpg