Ya know, up until this point I was barely taking "The Fleshmancer" seriously. When the name first came up I thought "heh, edgy much", but as the game progressed his presence and title made so much more sense as his creations actually gave a sense of unnerve. And then when he finally appeared he commanded so much *menace.* He felt like an actual threat whose stepping below his paygrade to deal with you.
It’s these cutscenes and the atmosphere where Sea of Stars excels. I remember nearly pissing myself the whole time I was fighting the Dweller of Woe lmao
@@darcsyde345 Got that right. Truly terrifying creations. Aephorul is a sick monster... One gripe I have about the story is... Who really is this azzhole? I wanna know more. Hints that he suffered some great loss in his past that turned him into the bitter pos that he is today. Does the messenger explain more? I wanna know more about this guy. His brother seems VERY scared of what he's capable of.
SPOILER ALERT, PLAY SEA OF STARS, ITS INCREDIBLE Can we also take a moment to acknowledge the absolute balls of adamantium that Garl has? He calls out Aephorul with absolutely no concern for the repercussions (though he does get resurrected later). Then he calls him out a second time, adds insult to injury by clocking Aephorul with a freaking apple, then ends the final fight by decking him with his pot lid. Even Gordon Ramsey wouldn't dare diss Garl.
@@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342 I mean, Aephorul is the way it is (according to the game) because Resh'an and he discovered the key for immortality, and eventually, Aephorul went jealous of the freedom of dying he wouldn't experience again, so he created the dwellers and that stuff, Resh'an isn't his brother (just in case if you think he was¡), he was his friend, and I don't know if this is real, but I saw in one comment that in The messenger (another game, same universe, 100/1000 years after the Sea of stars timeline) it's explicitly said that they were boyfriends.
What I really loved here is how Aephorul and Resh talk to each other while time was stopped. It doesn't come across as they hate each other, but more like old friends who disagreements tore them apart, but because they're both wise and powerful they still have mutual understand and sense of respect for each other.
This scene made my jaw drop at least three times, seeing Aephorul in the flesh for the first time, then when I realized exactly who the Acolytes and Brugaves were gonna become, then seeing Resh'an freeze time and have a casual conversation with his sassy ex-boyfriend while Garl was about to die???? Insane stuff
@@croacx Yeah there are so many connections to The Messenger! As someone who's been a fan for years and years I've never been so happy to play a new game lol. Also idk if you caught that but The Artificer is the small Blue Robe and the AI Core is the Clockwork Concierge! :D
@@Stephanie-69 to be fair i played Sea of Stars before the Messenger and only just finished The Messenger 2 days ago xD hard to make the connections then. AI core as concierge makes sense to me, but what is the hint of the artificer being blue robe? just the name?
@@croacx Aside from his name, and his fascination for golems, a few connections can be made. There's the whole Demon Crown side quest in The Messenger where you go to Forlorn Temple and kill the Demon King (the one in that game is a weak copy btw, we never see the "real" Demon King, that detail was revealed by the game's writer somewhere else) and get its Crown (which most likely belonged to the real Demon King, seeing as you hear his voice when picking it up), then give it to The Artificer so he can open a portal to Corrupted Future. This makes much more sense in retrospect now that we understand that Corrupted Future is a timeline that fell to a World Eater (see broken moon and the boss that chases you). Given that even The Shopkeeper doesn't know about Solstice Warriors and Dwellers (see her dialogue when going to Sunken Shrine), it felt odd that The Artificer had a machine ready to open a portal to a world fallen to a World Eater that specifically required the Demon Crown to function, but given his link to the Acolytes in Clockwork Castle, and Zale and Valere during Sea of Stars, this makes more sense. There were also details outside of the game, like how on the old Messenger website there was a blog post by The Artificer about him working in secret with the Clockwork Concierge, which is one more detail that's paid off in Sea of Stars.
I don't actually think Aephorul hates Resh'an more the opposite he is probably the only person in the multiverse he actually cares about. Like to him, their fights are disagreements between old friends and seems to treat it almost playfully
The scary part is clearly one of them is good... While the other is bad... But who do they have in their deeply complex and distant lives? Each other. That's it...
it looks like the Fleshmancer turned Burgraves, Erlina, and the Acolytes into the demonic creatures that the Messenger would face roughly 1000 years after the events of the Sea of Stars
@@firxanza5172(spoilers) Erlina does not become an enemy from the messenger, but as a boss in SoS, however brugraves and the acolytes turn into the demon general and the demon king respectively
Obe of the best scenes in video games. In this game I felt a little bit nervous when I see how Reshan and Aephorul friend each other even after he evolve into Fleshmancer.
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Ya know, up until this point I was barely taking "The Fleshmancer" seriously. When the name first came up I thought "heh, edgy much", but as the game progressed his presence and title made so much more sense as his creations actually gave a sense of unnerve. And then when he finally appeared he commanded so much *menace.* He felt like an actual threat whose stepping below his paygrade to deal with you.
It’s these cutscenes and the atmosphere where Sea of Stars excels. I remember nearly pissing myself the whole time I was fighting the Dweller of Woe lmao
@@darcsyde345 Got that right. Truly terrifying creations. Aephorul is a sick monster... One gripe I have about the story is... Who really is this azzhole? I wanna know more. Hints that he suffered some great loss in his past that turned him into the bitter pos that he is today. Does the messenger explain more? I wanna know more about this guy. His brother seems VERY scared of what he's capable of.
SPOILER ALERT, PLAY SEA OF STARS, ITS INCREDIBLE
Can we also take a moment to acknowledge the absolute balls of adamantium that Garl has?
He calls out Aephorul with absolutely no concern for the repercussions (though he does get resurrected later).
Then he calls him out a second time, adds insult to injury by clocking Aephorul with a freaking apple, then ends the final fight by decking him with his pot lid.
Even Gordon Ramsey wouldn't dare diss Garl.
@@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342 I mean, Aephorul is the way it is (according to the game) because Resh'an and he discovered the key for immortality, and eventually, Aephorul went jealous of the freedom of dying he wouldn't experience again, so he created the dwellers and that stuff, Resh'an isn't his brother (just in case if you think he was¡), he was his friend, and I don't know if this is real, but I saw in one comment that in The messenger (another game, same universe, 100/1000 years after the Sea of stars timeline) it's explicitly said that they were boyfriends.
What I really loved here is how Aephorul and Resh talk to each other while time was stopped. It doesn't come across as they hate each other, but more like old friends who disagreements tore them apart, but because they're both wise and powerful they still have mutual understand and sense of respect for each other.
This scene made my jaw drop at least three times, seeing Aephorul in the flesh for the first time, then when I realized exactly who the Acolytes and Brugaves were gonna become, then seeing Resh'an freeze time and have a casual conversation with his sassy ex-boyfriend while Garl was about to die???? Insane stuff
omg i did not make the connection with the demon general and the demon king. what the fuuuuuck
@@croacx Yeah there are so many connections to The Messenger! As someone who's been a fan for years and years I've never been so happy to play a new game lol. Also idk if you caught that but The Artificer is the small Blue Robe and the AI Core is the Clockwork Concierge! :D
@@Stephanie-69 to be fair i played Sea of Stars before the Messenger and only just finished The Messenger 2 days ago xD hard to make the connections then. AI core as concierge makes sense to me, but what is the hint of the artificer being blue robe? just the name?
Yeah that scene fire so them four became demon king I guess
@@croacx Aside from his name, and his fascination for golems, a few connections can be made.
There's the whole Demon Crown side quest in The Messenger where you go to Forlorn Temple and kill the Demon King (the one in that game is a weak copy btw, we never see the "real" Demon King, that detail was revealed by the game's writer somewhere else) and get its Crown (which most likely belonged to the real Demon King, seeing as you hear his voice when picking it up), then give it to The Artificer so he can open a portal to Corrupted Future. This makes much more sense in retrospect now that we understand that Corrupted Future is a timeline that fell to a World Eater (see broken moon and the boss that chases you).
Given that even The Shopkeeper doesn't know about Solstice Warriors and Dwellers (see her dialogue when going to Sunken Shrine), it felt odd that The Artificer had a machine ready to open a portal to a world fallen to a World Eater that specifically required the Demon Crown to function, but given his link to the Acolytes in Clockwork Castle, and Zale and Valere during Sea of Stars, this makes more sense.
There were also details outside of the game, like how on the old Messenger website there was a blog post by The Artificer about him working in secret with the Clockwork Concierge, which is one more detail that's paid off in Sea of Stars.
I like that even though they're enemies Aephorul appreciates Resh's work with the time loop. Like I hate you, but dang this is impressive.
I don't actually think Aephorul hates Resh'an more the opposite he is probably the only person in the multiverse he actually cares about.
Like to him, their fights are disagreements between old friends and seems to treat it almost playfully
Even more than old friends…. One could say, boyfriends even…
The scary part is clearly one of them is good... While the other is bad... But who do they have in their deeply complex and distant lives? Each other. That's it...
God the entirety of mesa island is just one big messenger callback and I love it.
Would it still be considered a callback if this game is supposed to be a prequel?
@@nm5329 well it came out after so technically it is, but saying callforward is kinda funny so i'll go with the latter
Not them casually talking while Garl is about to die??? 💀💀💀
Once you get the True Ending, if you haven't already, you'll understand why.
Seeing this cutscene again after finally beating The Messenger (while mid-Sea of Stars) has my jaw on the floor
it looks like the Fleshmancer turned Burgraves, Erlina, and the Acolytes into the demonic creatures that the Messenger would face roughly 1000 years after the events of the Sea of Stars
@@firxanza5172(spoilers)
Erlina does not become an enemy from the messenger, but as a boss in SoS, however brugraves and the acolytes turn into the demon general and the demon king respectively
The music in this game es PERFECT
Chilling moment.
can't wait for the DLCs for brugaves and erlina's real fate. At least on new game + when Erlina is without his boss.
I'm curious about learning in more detail what our portal assassin had to go through in order to get to Valere and Zale.
Fleshmancer had that Akatsuki theme.
Oh good lol. The part of the game that made me cry for like 2 hours str8 lol.
Obe of the best scenes in video games. In this game I felt a little bit nervous when I see how Reshan and Aephorul friend each other even after he evolve into Fleshmancer.
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Could they have survived the hit instead of Garl? They do have magical protection.
Beat the final boss once, and finish the tasks given and something will tell you why.
Missing the point. His character would NEVER have let him hurt his friends. He was destined to go the way he did.