Hands-On Review | Zoom F1 Field Recorder
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- Опубликовано: 4 мар 2018
- In this video, AB takes a look at the new Zoom F1 Field Recorder. Designed with modularity in mind, the F1 allows you to attach a variety of capsules to the recorder, ranging from shotgun microphones to dual X/Y stereo microphones, and even XLR input attachments.
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Great overview
The _Achilles Tendon_ on this unit as well the *ZOOM H1* and the *ZOOM H1n* is the Power On/Off button. Is weak and my *ZOOM H1* power button are broken already. This was the main reason I switched to the TASCAM DR-05.
Think given the price point on this one at under $300.00, in the AUSTRALIAN market that this has got to be a AWESOME go to, I would love to also attempt to pair this with a blue yeti XLR pro.
This is so dope!!
Why? From what experience do you suggest that this device is not useful or "dope" as you put it?
if this video is what it sounds like im buying now
I want this mic!! Bad!
what processing have you used? just eq and compression?
Thanks for a good review. I am also considering the H4 since it comes with a xlr-line and if a add that device to the F1 they are almost in the same price range. Except for the the weight are there any reasons not to buy the F4?
If you are a filmmaker and serious about audio, then the Zoom F4 is a fine choice. It is a terrific performer and a great value. Zoom F4 6-Input / 8-Track Multi-Track Field Recorder
BH #ZOF4: bhpho.to/33GdYwP >Mark
I have the H6 and looking at the F8. I have most of the mics. I do find that many times I only use two inputs. Due to this and that I do not have a Lav mic, it just made it on my wish list. B&H is there a Gator case for the unit, a lav and shotgun mic?
Exactly my problem too! I cannot get LaV to work well on my h6. I’ve just bought the F1 for this need as well. And as a bonus, as I have all the zoom capsules - I can use them on the small unit if I need
Hi guys, what do you think of the zoom F1 vs the H1N ? both can fit in a pocket but the H1N is at half the price, has in built stereo mic and seems to have the sames fonctionnalities than the F1... I'm looking for a simple audio recording setup, and it'll be my first (and probably the only one) audio recorder just for some review/vlogging type videos
gregory buchs, I have the F1, and personally I'd recommend you pickup the H1N over this. You'll save money and still get great quality audio. A tip for you btw, checkout the "DSLR Video Shooter" channel, he has a great guide showing a lot of mods you can add to the H1N.
If I buy the F1 Shotgun could I use it as a lavalier too? Or the microphone + recorder is an only one piece? Is it also a good option for indoors? Or do you recommend me H1N?
You sure can. Use this lavalier mic: Senal OLM-2 Lavalier Microphone with 3.5mm Connector for Sennheiser ew & Senal AWS-2000 Series B&H # SEOLM2: bhpho.to/2N8UnNk >Mark
If I have the Rode Video Micro, can I take that cord and plug it into the slot the lav mic would go in and use the Rode shotgun mic instead when I wanted to? I couldn't find anything definitive, just suggestions of the other version with their shotgun attachment. But, I like the option to use the lav or the shotgun depending on the situation. Also thinking about not necessarily having the recorder attached to a camera, just using it in a pocket with the shotgun attached and aimed at sounds I want to capture. Will this allow for that? Thanks. :) Paula
The Zoom F1 will supply the requisite plug-in power for your Rode VideoMicro mini shotgun microphone. >Mark
Is the extention cable ECM-6 compatible with ZOOM F1 ???
(Thank you for your video !!!)
Yes. The Zoom ECM-6 will be compatible with e Zoom F-1 Field Recorder: bhpho.to/2A5KxWA >Mark
The 3.5mm mic port on the F1 is MONO. The only way to add a stereo 3.5mm input is to attach the XYH-5 optional accessory. You won't find any mention of the stereo 3.5mm port in Zoom's XYH5 literature but it's there. You can get the XYH-5 as an included accessory if you buy the H5.
are you sure about this.. just read the PDF manual and it clearly states that the mic/line on the F1 is stereo 3.5mm..
Great! From what I understood headphones are to be plugged in the same device as the mic (which would be with the interviewee). Which makes me think.... How would we listen to it while recording if the subject would be away from the crew, ie. camera/interviewer?
There would be no headphone output available in that case:
Headphone/Line Output with Volume Control
A locking 3.5mm stereo output jack with a dedicated volume control enables straightforward routing to your camera, DSLR, secondary recorder, or headphones. >Mark
What would be the best audio gain level on F1 to get best audio without unnecessary noice in the background. With shotgun mic I dial up to 5, that gives -32 decibels on recording, but not sure if that’s the best way.
Get that mic as close to the subject as posssible. The lower the gain level, the lower the noise floor. >Mark
I wish they would update this design with 32 bit float and a quarter thread hole on the back
The rest is perfect 👌
I’m sure can print a 3D printed mount that has space for a 1/4 inch insert nut.
Great video. Can it be mounted on a boom pole?
You can attach the Zoom F1 with the Zoom SMF-1 Shockmount for F1 Field Recorder
, BH # ZOSMF1. bhpho.to/2MZ2CAs
For indoors, outdoors, interviews... without the recorder into the camera (mine doesn't have a part for external microphone), do you recommend me F1 or H1N?
The F1n has the "friendlier" and more comfortable form factor if you intend on pointing it like a handheld mic at your subject. The F1 offers more versatiity. bhpho.to/2BqYZI6
>Mark
I have both, just go with h1n if ur just gonna interview and do basic recording. this one does a lot more tho, much more compact as well
Nice! So i can just plug a male minni trs to 2x female minni into the line in and be able to do a 2 person interview with a 2ND lav without having to buy an 2nd Zoom F1. ill just need to get a extender cable for one of the lav cables.....SWEEET!!
@Cloud9Photography did it work for you?
Good review ! why not mention that one can power the device through the USB port? :)
Well, they did talk about being able to use it as a usb audio interface which lets you know that it can be powered by your computer, as all usb interfaces work like that.
Is the F1 able to record the line in to one channel and the shotgun mic to another at same time? Thx.
Yes it is. >Mark
@@BandH Mark: Great! I have been looking for clarification on this.
For others who are interested and for your reference:
Whilst I have a series of audio recorders including the F4 from Zoom, I don't have anything with the small form factor of the F1 to add to my Sony A6300. My A6300 is 80% part of my personal kit rather than my professional kit which includes the likes of the FS7 and FS5, FS100 from Sony. However, there are times when the A6300 is the best choice, simply due to its small form factor. E.g., when I need to travel around Tokyo for a documentary shoot and need audio too but don't want to lug around my heavy FS7 (think the addition of a heavy suitable tripod too!) and even the FS5 can get tedious and heavy if a hike up a mountain is needed!
The achilles heel of the A6300 (and now the A6400 too) - ming bogglingly both touted as capable video capture devices - is that Sony omitted a headphone jack for monitoring audio. I have the XLR-K2M attachment which is great, but without a headphone jack to monitor, it's a high risk situation if you need to capture an interview. External recorders (like my Roland R-26 and definitely my ZOOM F4) add bulk and become wieldy and I may as well use my FS5 if I'm going to carry those around. This is where the F1 starts to shine. It's small and can handle two channels. Shotgun mic for B-roll capture, impromptu interviews and will also allow me to plug in something like my Rode lavalier mic attached to Rode's own mic extension cable for a sit-down interview. I could even throw in a wireless kit in a backpack and take that along with me. Whether you are a professional like myself fitting in with a client's budget and/or having to spend all day lugging around gear on public transport or up a mountainside in mid-summer and wishing to maintain a minimum standard for audio or a tourist who would like to record good audio ambience of your holiday as well as pretty pictures, then size matters. Camera/audio gear is cumbersome and can quickly become a pain in the b**t no matter how much you love cinematography/videography. I personally feel that so long as camera manufacturers sell cameras without headphone jacks (or even mic input jacks!), then this solution by Zoom should be a candidate for consideration.
........now if Sony would do something about the 'impossible to see in bright sunlight excuse of a monitor screen' on their cameras.....so, ultimately lugging around an external monitor is still going to be necessary to get that critical focus. I wonder if there is such a thing as a monitor goggle-like thingy...after all, there is no better stand/attachment device than your nose and your ears as proven by decades of use by spectacles and sunglasses wearers. Definitely help to keep the camera small. One eye will do!
@@BandH How does one do this? I don't see anything in the manual and haven't found a way. If you are able, can you post a video of it? Nobody else has to date.
@@jonathanburke8957 There is another answer to this question:
Artsvard: Is it possible to use shotgun mic on the left channel and lavalier on the right channel at the same time? Then can it record directly into the camera?
B&H Photo Video: This recorder can connect and record directly to the camera. But only the microphone modules or a plug in mic may be used separately. The inputs cannot be mixed. >Mark
Does it have the same preamplifiers as the other Zoom F recorder?
Good question! These are not the same preamps as the F series line, but we thought they sounded pretty good for the size of the unit. Thanks for watching!
Given the price of the F1, I would seriously doubt if Zoom has provided the same preamps as their F4 and F8 field recorders. >Mark
Can I use a Rodelink wireless lav setup, along with the shotgun Mic to record 2 channels at once, with the shotun being a backup track?
I am afraid not. An external microphone may be connected only when the shotgun microphone module (or other mic module) is removed. >Mark
no.
Can you get a safety track when using the lav mic?
The F1 does not support dual recording. >Mark
My DSLR doesn't have a headphone jack, does anyone know If I would be able to use a headphone spliter on this if I wanted to send audio both to my camera and a pair of headphones?
You could use a headphone splitter with the Zppm F1-SP. >Mark
Actually, you can't bring one F1 unit with you for multiple tasks. Zoom won't sell the accessories separately at this time. Therefore if you're a dedicated Zoom customer with a SGH-6 you can't use that on the F1 since the shock mount is not available for sale. Furthermore, the wired lav is also not for sale. Not a good way for Zoom to treat their current customers.
I thought the same thing, but finally decided to go for F1-SP and then use some random lav mic with it.
Ludwik C. Siadlak that’s a great idea. What lav did you get?
I had a talk with Zoom Customer Support yesterday for this same reason. What I was told was that they are looking at what accessories they will make available to resellers. From what I understood, what ones they dont make available to resellers are supposed to be available on the Zoom website. I really want to get the Zoom shockmount as there doesnt appear to be a 3rd party option at this point.
I bought a Zoom F1 LP Kit as the Lav is pretty decent(I had planned to buy a Rode lab mic) to record my commentaries and to record interviews, studio recording, sound bytes from environment (like bird chirping/sound of water flowing etc) bought SSH-6 Shot gun which is far far better than SGH 6.
So here is the calculation- if you buy SP kit- with a SSH 6 and a Shock mount total cost at B&H is 199 USD+129+29 USD = 357 USD which in India would be cheaper or equal to a SP kit (average quality shot gun mic called SGH 6) + a lav mic of a good quality.
SD Card you have to purchase separately anyways.
So my recommendation is buy a LP kit and any extra H6 capsule which will be a far better option than buying a SP kit and then purchase a good Lav mic. Once you have different mic capsules over a period, you can easily upgrade to higher recording unit like F5/F6 or even future F1n :)
Do the math yourself !
Whats the quality of the shotgun mic compared to the trusty rodes? Irrelevant for me, canon preamp problems mean no point in either
I have 3 canons, incl a 5Dm3 DSLR, a mirrorless and a C100 cinema cam. The zoom audio is by far superior. Very little preamp noise compared to the canon. Always found the voice to be stellar
So what is the difference between using this and plugging a good lavalier into a h1 or an H1n and putting that into your pocket
Great question. You could certainly plug a lav into an H1n and get great results. I think that the attraction to the F1 is that it allows you to change capsules for non-lav work, so that versatility may be a deciding factor for someone who is interested in shooting content with different mic options, vs the H1n's fixed X/Y capsules. Hope that's helpful.
@Fighting Arts of England: Form factor and durability primarily I would suggest. I have the H1 - good it is. Tough it isn't. I'm talking about situations where a talent may have it in their pocket and sit down awkwardly and break it. The H1 isn't weak by any means, but it's stick-like form factor makes it vulnerable and it is a pain to fit on a belt for example.
I want to buy it but i not found an android support
Can u connect guitar direct ?
It's really difficult to determine the audio from the microphone with the music playing. Is that intentional, hiding the inherent noise?
I know this is 2 years late, but they literally stop the music so you can clearly hear each mic, did you even bother watching the entire video?
@@liiightoriginal9949 Clearly not.
2:30 and especially the word 'these' at 2:35, I'm hearing distortion. Can anyone confirm whether this lav distorts easily?
Why is the shotgun F1 plug into the headphone jack to the camera?
@5:00 is the lav vs. shotgun mic comparison. ... And the shotgun mic is in the F1's accessory connector. The audio is being recorded on the F1, and it is passing through to the camera. As the reviewer said, you get a safety track that way: two audio recordings. You could set the gain a bit lower, or maybe auto-gain, on the camera in case the F1 is set too high and clips, for one example.
I have the F1 and a lav mic, how do I record straight to my computer? Do I need to install a software? I don't have an SD-card or batteries
Set the FI in USB audio interface mode and start recordig. The files will be saved directly to your computer. No special software or downloads are required. Use your existing DAW or recording software already residing on your computer. See page 44 of the owner's guide: www.bhphotovideo.com/lit_files/372653.pdf >Mark
@@BandH Nothing happens when I plug the F1 to my computer with a micro usb cable, not even when it's running on batteries. I'm supposed to see a USB screen according to the manual you linked but that's not happening, I did a factory reset but that also didn't resolve the issue.
Maybe the USB cable I have is the problem, I'll try it with another one and let you know if it works
@@BandH I bought a new cable and that one works, thanks for the help :)
Is there a line out to send a signal to the camera?
Yes it has a line-level output;
Analog I/O:
1 x Proprietary 10-Pin Mic Capsule Input
1 x 1/8" / 3.5 mm TRS Female Unbalanced Line/Mic Input (Lockable)
1 x 1/8" / 3.5 mm TRS Female Unbalanced Headphone/Line Output (Lockable)
>Mark
Does it run Timecode (in and out)?
Half-second tone signals (sound markers) can be played from the PHONE OUT jack when recording starts and
stops. Since sound markers are also written to files, when recording audio for video with the , sending the
output signal to the camera input can make synchronizing audio and video easier. www.bhphotovideo.com/lit_files/372653.pdf >Mark
Can you use Lav and Shotgun at the same time?
This is not possible with the Zoom F 1. Once you plug in the lav, the feed is cut from the shotgun or other capsule microphones. >Mark
How are we supposed to monitor the audio from the recorder while shooting?????????????????
1 x 1/8" / 3.5 mm TRS Female Unbalanced Headphone/Line Output (Lockable): >Mark
Is there any way to monitor the audio during production
The sound being recorded can be monitored using headphones. 1/8" / 3.5 mm TRS Female Unbalanced Headphone/Line Output (Lockable). >Mark
@@BandH But what if the talent has the F1 in his pocket and I'm doing a full shot. How can I monitor audio without a cable around the place?
Is it possible to use shotgun mic on the left channel and lavalier on the right channel at the same time? Then can it record directly into the camera?
This recorder can connect and record directly to the camera. But only the microphone modules or a plug in mic may be used separately. The inputs cannot be mixed. >Mark
3:05 Got 'em
Anyone knows when the update of H4N Pro?
Yeah its the H5
Zoom's sales models are messed up. they should sell the F1 at a base price, then allow the customer to add packages such as lav or their choice of shotgun mic. Forcing customers to buy the lav or mono shotgun combined packages is frustrating for customers like me who want both the lav and the stereo shotgun mic. Seems like a greedy sales model and I can't find any resellers who package the products with the customer in mind. So I am guessing that this is because Zoom mandates it that way.
Is it me or does he look like SKEE LO "Wish I was a little bit taller"/?
hahhahahahahahhahaha :D
for me I am lost...WAY too complicated!!!
The compartment will break.
Up to 32GB card.... you gotta me kidding. The battery compartment is complete crap.
I thought you guys were better than having to resort to clickbait thumbnails. You guys are a professional company that uploads content about tools for professionals. I never thought you guys would resort to the same things certain youtubers do to get extra clicks.
Mr2MuchAwesomnness: Perhaps you should change your name to Mr2Much-about-nothing...B&H, as a professional company (as you point out) have invested time, effort and money into their videos. On top of that, their business is all about selling. Getting people to view, like the product and ultimately buy one is their goal. They are not a filmmaker educational charity. Even if they did clickbait 'they didn't) - they are entitled to do so. Their content is valid, isn't illegal and neither is it immoral. You need a reality check mate.
The shotgun sounds baaad
No USB C ….Nooooooooooooo
Horrible, annoying, loud and distracting background music.