How Meditation Can Change Your Life - Sam Harris
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You’ve done it. Good god you’ve done it.
when does the podcast come on youtube?
Severe ADHD here, meditation helps develop the "focus" muscle that so many people lack. It helped me initially, until I became adept at the whole breathing thing and my brain learned to automate that process while thinking of other things, but it's a cute novel trick in the beginning, especially for ADHD, it was the first time my brain was silent ever.
@@Obberron It's also possible that you gained more mindfulness and simply started noticing more subtle thoughts. It's common for meditators to think their mind is getting busier as they progress on the journey because metacognitive awareness increases and now you're much more aware of your inner dialogue. Whereas, before meditation we're so consumed by the constant narratives that we don't even realise they're running.
Concentration is the muscle that opens the window to start actually meditating. Samadhi, or concentration meditation is only one type of meditation. There's an entire ocean to discover once you've developed concentration for a while.@@Obberron
Sam's remarkable ability to use the precisely perfect word to elucidate the concepts he's explaining never ceases to amaze me. If there were ever a wizard of language, he's it.
I think it was Neil Degrasse Tyson who basically said that Sam is a master of the English language!
Sounded pretty basic to me but ok
I always thought Alex uses his language even better. I could be biased, but it is how it is.
@@noahfletcher3019 That's kind of the point no? Precise language does not mean complicated.
Too bad the concepts are often nonsense.
ARE YOU SERIOUS THIS FINALLY HAPPENED ALLEEEXXX!!!!?
Noice Woyk!!!
This is a big deal
One of the greatest collabs on RUclips ever. I mean it
@@Dan-id9qs ikr!!!!
It didn’t happen, it’s all an illusion 😉
Sam talks slowly but says so much in every word that I have to replay it 5 times. He is unbelievably careful and clear and it’s such a blessing to hear him for free.
"Blessing?"😂
Clear thought and Sam Harris.....
Let me guess: paid review?
He says "Muslims bad"
@@Coffeeisnecessarynowpepper One of the few honest statements he has ever made
Two of my favourite thinkers speaking together, what a beautiful day
Dammit all these comments like yours make me realize he's gone full right wing grifter. Unsubbing ftom this clown.
Way more exciting than two of my favorite speakers thinking together
Yes, they are very intelligent, but yet humble, and they both have a way of articulating their thoughts concisely and effortlessly. I really enjoy listening to both of them.
@@benjierodriguez6518Sam Harris is very intelligent and articulate, but I wouldn’t say humble. He tends to shut down and dismiss opposition with an aura of overconfidence.
He has absolutely influenced me and is a great thinker, but it is important to critically look at how and what he is saying
@@benjierodriguez6518 sam harris is arrogant as heck dude
I could not be more jealous of this conversation! My two favorites together. Thank you both for all your influence.
You are one of top 5, trust me.
Appreciate that! I have actually just sent Alex a request for collaboration. He has been so influential to me that I'd love to have it come full circle. @@DavidSimic-ig9yd
Appreciate that! I actually just sent Alex a request for collaboration. He has been so influential to me that it would be great to see it come full circle.@@DavidSimic-ig9yd
You have quickly become one of my favorites. I always look forward to your content.
Thank you! RUclips is struggling with my comments, but I also tried saying thank you to David's reply also. @@Koanuk223
I also started as a meditation skeptic but it has become without doubt the most valuable tool I know of. Can't wait to see the full episode
I'd be more into it without the connotations. I do a similar thing at home when I need a break, I just call it stopping
Likewise. It's best to make a habit of daily practice first thing AM and PM before bed.
Can you describe how it benefitted you?
Tool? For what ? I see no apparent value in this exercise of the physical mind vs reality.
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@@panampace
Damn right!! What’s the purpose, value, structure, awakening, etc. etc.
Can’t wait for full version
Having Sam Harris on the podcast is a longtime coming
Great to see Alex and Ben Stiller talking about meditation.
Ben's father acted on a show that Sam's mom wrote a lil bit on back in the day. In my meme voice "You don't find that suspicious?" 😂
Zen Stiller 😎
@@ip-sumVery underrated comment 😂😂😂😂
Meditation has completely changed me. I almost feel like the person I “thought” I was is dead or doesn’t exist anymore or that I can’t really remember who that character was. I had chronic anxiety attacks which I know longer have. I rarely worry at all. The downside for me is that I feel bored more now. I’m just going through the boredom without judging it with hopes it’ll pass. Good luck to anyone starting out meditating and stick with it.
Pay attention to where the boredom arises from. I also suffered regularly from anxiety attacks and and since I started meditating about 2 years ago, I have had none. It's truly amazing and I'm glad someone else out there is finding success as well! I was feeling bored for a bit as well but if you pay attention to the boredom in a similar way to how you may watch your thoughts or your breath (depending on your practice) you will see the boredom arises in much the same way the anxiety arises, from nothing and then into thoughts in your head. Whether it be thoughts of anxiety or boredom flowing down the river of awareness, remember you are the river and theres no need to cling to either thought. Good luck in your practice!
@@economicus499 Thank you! Reading this had a calming effect to me. I was walking my dogs the other day and thought to myself that the trees I was looking at are no different than my thoughts coming and going. Everything is coming and going in my awareness. It’s pretty damn awesome when I have those experiences. I’ll definitely watch my boredom like everything else. Thanks again!
Almost tempted to say that I can't believe this moment ever came, but I do.
Alex made it happen. I'm actually proud of him. This is great!
You’re proud that he had a conversation about meditation??? Like you’ve been waiting forever for this particular moment??
He’s great, but these comments are so odd.
@@VA-gu1jqwell theres a fool born every minute
@@VA-gu1jq I also don't get it. I mean I do but I don't. Yes Alex has gained so many viewers and subscribers by now that he's worth Sam's time. I guess you could be proud of him if you are seriously invested in his success. Not sure why you would be though. I mean, Alex is definitely an interesting bloke but this is level of personal investment with someone I don't actually know is extremely rare for me, if existent at all. So in that sense I don't get it.
@@jozefwoo8079 I don't think it's unusual to be proud of someone for expanding their views. Even if you don't know them at all. What makes this different is a lot of people in this community have seen Alex slowly mold into who he is today based on people like Christopher Hitchens and Sam Harris was involved in a lot of the same conversations at the time. It's a mix of being proud of Alex's character development and excitement that we're coming full circle being able to finally converse with Sam.
@@SneakyLeifyes I get that, but I still don't share those feelings generally. I can be excited if my favorite sports person is winning but I wouldn't call that proud. So in that sense I don't get it. People are different. That doesn't mean that my way of experiencing this, is better. It's just odd to feel proud in this case (for me). It sounds a bit like he sees Alex as *his* little boy who has finally achieved something meaningful.
If meditation hasn't worked for you so far because you cant seem to sustain attention on your breath or something similar please remember such focus aspects are not necessary. Meditation's 'breakthrough' moment is when your mind goes from being in a state similar to riding a motorcycle to sitting in a bus. From excessive active participation with what you see, hear feel etc to passive and relaxed observation of whats passing by. No formula exists for getting from one state to the other. Gentle regular practice of physical stillness.
Finally, Sam Harris is on the podcast. Hope they discuss about morality in the full episode , very keen to see how Harris responds to Alex' criticisms
Same. I have been waiting for that since forever.
they do.
I hope you drop full podcast here Alex. If not it’s also okay, I hope you do. Thanks for this interview.
I was skeptical of meditation until I started meditating. Thankfully I was willing to put aside my own beliefs and ideas about what meditation is and what it could do for me. I have been meditationg now every day for 26 years.
One way to know you've finally made it as a podcaster: crushing that first one-on-one interview with Ben Stiller! Well done Alex!
I literally can’t look at Harris without thinking about that lol
Ben indeed is a good actor. Acting out a neuroscientist philosopher is something!!
Ben's father acted on a show that Sam's mom wrote a lil bit on back in the day. In my meme voice "You don't find that suspicious?" 😂
Oooooooh wow! Can't wait for the whole conversation!
Can’t wait for the full conversation! I’ve followed you for a long time and thought this would be a great conversation
I’ve been watching your channel for the last 6 years (my god it doesn’t feel like that long at all), and I’m so excited you’re finally having this convo. I’ve been a subscriber almost since the beginning, and I’m so proud of what you’re doing today - not that that means anything from a random subscriber lol. But still congrats on the growth and I look forward to the full interview!!!
FINALLY!! An Alex and Sam conversation, I know it will be great!
I'm so hyped for this
Oh I'm looking forward to the full version of this!
I love how sam Harris digs at other people who have large amounts of experience in meditation and then reels of his experience in suggestive way as to say this is the way to look at it while disregarding others experiences. Quite an oxymoronic way to calculate experiences when all are as valid. My own experience I see places as clear as I see with my own eyes in my mind. Now you can poo poo it but because you haven’t experienced it, does that really mean it can’t be done. How you view the possibility is the key to you unlocking the technique, you think it’s hard to do, then it will be hard, if you feel it’s impossible then it won’t ever happen. Meditation is a window into your belief system and the basis of what you believe deep within your subconscious will arise. Now remember how you dream and that you see in your dream,same mechanism. For those who didn’t think it was possible to see places in your mind and I gave you an example of the mechanism within dreams see how your belief system was blocking you from thinking it can be done. All things are possible, miracle is just a word telling you that it can’t be done. You decide the definition always
Happy Birthday Alex!!!
WOOHOO, been waiting for this conversation for so long! Hoping it comes out soon!
I’ve never seen this podcast before, I’m seeing this because I’m a fan of Sam Harris. Do you meditate?
@@joeniemchak haha bro, what are the odds. I actually saw your channel like a year ago or so with Frank yang. I remember thinking to myself, this guy has reached peace. Yeah I i've been practicing for like 2 years. Haven't gotten any crazy results, more just being able to acknowledge ego more, enjoy the present, and overcome some addictions. How have you been tho?
Excellent segment from Sam, great clip - thanks!
Superb convo guys. Very nice!
FINALLY. I have been waiting for this one.
Best collab ever, so excited
I've been waiting for this interview! Awesome bro
I've been awaiting this!
Oh my gosh. Couldn’t be more excited about this.
Hopefully you can get motivated with other things
@@dr.tonielffaucet5988 not my choice
So, you have a boner for mysticism?
Like going to the gym and still not getting laid anyway. @@dr.tonielffaucet5988
Been waiting for this one, been waiting a long time
Sam's waking up app is brilliant.
Hyped to watch this once it goes live!
Buzzing for this one!
I had no idea there was such an overlap of people who appreciate both Alex and Sam. I thought I was the only one. Nice to see I was wrong! 🤣
I know right!!
One of us! One of us!
I dont think it would be a stretch to say these are the only two human beings I put into the same category.
@@Rave.-absolutely man. I can't think of a third who I admire as much in the exact same way
Anyone that likes these two should have a listen to Destiny as well. He’s a bit more edgey, but also incredibly interesting to listen to.
Alex + Sam are my favourites, but destiny is in the same area.
I don't agree with Sam on everything, but as someone who suffers from depression and anxiety, his app has helped me tremendously.
Love this. It actually gave me an idea for how meditation is a distinct experience from just sitting with your thoughts. (I did already have some ideas of what mindfulness meditation in particular is though.)
Beyond helpful and I will be listening to this repeatedly
Let’s goo I can’t believe this finally happened, soo looking forward to it!
Sam got me into a meditation practice a number of years ago. I’ve done a few 1-2 week long silent meditation retreats, and it’s been one of the richer aspects of my life.
Without needing to buy into the more preposterous supernatural elements of Buddhism and the surrounding culture, meditation can provide deep experiential insights into truths of the nature and structure of our consciousness.
I’d definitely encourage people to try Sam’s short meditation on RUclips for a few days running and see if you don’t find it a beneficial and pleasant experience.
I call bullsh*t. You know less now than you did before.
@@mr.c2485 Dude, you are such a negative Nancy. We get it, you hate meditation and think it is stupid. But it can definitely be beneficial, if for no other reason than it helps you notice and gain a bit more control over the countless errant thoughts that emerge on a daily basis. Is it so hard to see how that can be beneficial? If I can catch myself when some pointless thought pops into my head and save myself 20 wasted minutes pondering something that will serve no purpose, that sounds pretty beneficial. Plus, I think it's better to live in and appreciate the present moment than it is to be in your head ruminating about the past or stressing about the future.
@@zeusthecat6295 I could benefit from this very much right now. My mind has been an endless soup of tangled thoughts that take me for a ride against my will. I think taking control of that is exactly what I need
Meditation is like prayer’s squishy emasculated brother.
@@mr.c2485 You're the very type of person/character who would benefit most from mastering meditation. You don't know, what you don't know! But we who have persevered with learning meditation know.
Never has anyone described meditation this precisely, incredible segment
I can't wait for this to be on youtube, I love listening to you both!
Alex, I met you in Piccadilly Circus a few weeks back and have been eagerly awaiting this since! Fantastic stuff 👏👏
Congrats on climbing up in the world man!
Sam is my absolute favourite!! Alex please get into meditation !! we'd love to hear your experience from the very basics
Harris-fantastic. Elegant and sharp like a diamond.
I’ve been a serious meditator for about 25 years (Soto Zen Buddhism is my home lineage, but have studied under teachers in various traditions). I always say: meditation is like any bodily discipline (sport, dance, yoga, martial arts), except that instead of training the body, it is for training your attention. There are countless techniques and methods, but ultimately you are just training your attention to not wander, as Sam articulates well. And as he points out, that’s why so many people hate it. Besides it being a difficult and boring task, many people are very disconcerted by the profound implications of the fact that no matter how hard we try, we cannot introspectively perceive where our thoughts come from.
have you had a spiritual awakening yet ?
I've tried meditating and it was tough to have that depth of self-perception and awareness, and just sit with it. It was an uncomfortable place to be for me, and I've never tried going back to it.
@@TH-nx9vf “Spiritual awakening” is a term that is both vague and loaded. I’ve had many experiences, on the cushion and off, that I don’t think I would have had without training my attention through meditation. I’ll leave it at that. I’m not a spiritual person, I’m profoundly skeptical when it comes to metaphysics and cosmology, but for me the benefits of well-trained attention are enough.
@@TH-nx9vf….meditation will hopefully save you from what people these days refer to as so-called ‘spiritual awakening’. Like so many terms these days it’s become largely meaningless through its overuse.
@@boochi7087 The modern world is designed to keep your head spinning. One trick that’s as ancient as meditation traditions themselves, is to pick an object of focus that is pleasant, like a pleasant sensation or image. The pleasure associated with the object can often help keep the attention focused, and make the effort seem less drudgerous.
Alex, you should talk to Dr.K(Alok Kanojia) about meditation. He's a great psychiatrist and very insightful to listen to. Even though he's religious, I find him much more understanding of the current generation's(my) problems than any atheist I listen to.
Great explanation, so excited about this one!
Happy Birthday Alex!
You've got me. Take my Patreon money this month. I can't afford it every month, though. But Sam Harris is a rare treat, and I want it now :-)
Now I really want Alex to talk to Dr K too haha
now that would be an awesome conversation! i love dr k
Dr K?
@@jozefwoo8079 yep
I would listen to Alex and Dr. K talk for 10 hours
@@jozefwoo8079 AKA HealthyGamerGG, go look him up he's been a great help to twitch and the online gaming community.
Yooooo finally! I'VE BEEN WAITING SO LONG FOR YOU TO DO A PODCAST WITH SAM HARRIS 😁😁😁
This is awesome! Great job getting Sam on your show!
Meditation is not the best word, in India and Tibet is best described as " cultivation" or "familiarization" because you can use your mind to cultivate a virtue or mental state or to know your experience,. Obviously there are many techniques for different proposites under the umbrella of meditation, there is concentration, analyses, mere awareness, resting awareness, self inquire and the union of tranquility and insight as in Tibetan Buddhism or just witnessing like Mahamudra or Dzogchen.
Perhaps in some backwater parts of the world an ape sitting in silence is considered to be profound, but not in the West.
Omg this is kind of a full circle moment since i came across Alex because of his critique of Sam Harris.
Was just listening to Sam’s Podcast. Inspiring just the way he articulates himself. Excited for this one ❤
Finally, been waiting for this
This is single-handedly the best explanation of meditation that I have yet to come across. You're not communing with the divine, you're simply controlling your attention and being the ever present observer. I can't wait to see the full episode, this is sure to be a great conversation
Thats not what meditation is. He's getting it wrong. The thing about thought being pathology is incorrect.
@@Darkloid21 thoughts happen regardless if we want them to or not. They're an ever present part of the human experience. Meditation stops the incessant need to think, and identify with our thoughts. Meditation allows is to be still when we don't have to think (e.g. when were trying to get to sleep etc.) Incessant thought is a disease and pathological. The most unhappy I've ever been has been when my thoughts were in control of me
@@DamienChristopher2001 Then you don't know meditation then.
Incessant thought isn't a disease, it's the reason we do anything. When you silence that you silence life. I know because I reached the endpoint to meditation. It's not peace or pain, it's just blank.
It's also ironic you mention sleep because meditation is about avoiding falling asleep.
I've just been listening to Making Sense with Sam Harris today, so this is perfect timing haha
Happy birthday Alex!
👍If you understand the McGilchristian diagnosis of brain activity then what Sam points to is a practical awareness of its cofunctioning process. Alex is greater than what Alex thinks. Does this make sense?
“Just push really hard, and eventually you’ll start feelin it”
This is a very good explanation of mindfulness meditation.
Congratulations for finally doing it Alex :)
This is a great advertisement for mindfulness/meditation. Exceptional speakers, both of you, but Sam Harris' explanations are the most crystal clear I've ever heard.
And his ideas lead to nowhere…
OMG DREAMS COME TRUE
I'm so excited for this
Been waiting for this for years 💪
This is my most anticipated podcast episode ever. I can't wait to see the full length interview!
Alex needs to explore Eastern spiritualites a bit more. Sam Harris is definitely a gateway.
I recommend not only studying of the Buddhist tradition, but of Psychoanalysis as well!
(Lacan in particular)
@@animefurry3508 Not just the Buddhist tradition. Sanatana Dharma is a mother of a large chunk of Eastern traditions. I hope Alex looks into Advaita Vedanta!
Gateway to woo-woo?
Gateway drug
No such thing as a spirit without demonstrable evidence. It’s called mysticism…
This is great!!! Thank You!
Oooh yeah, been waitin for this one
I'm glad Alex brought up how the reports of the meditator can be like the reports of the religious experience. The point is that one doesn't necessarily need to "try it for oneself" or have the experience, to have justified doubt about the claims being made on the basis of the experience. In other words, one can accept that the experience feels like it does, but reject that the INFERENCES made from that experience are sound. Sam wants to push back on that by saying he's not making prima facie implausible metaphysical claims from religion. But Sam IS making all sorts of claims about the nature of identity and the self and free will based on the nature of meditation. And, like the guys on Decoding The Gurus have pointed out, I also find many of Sam's inferences to be quite dubious.
Sam Harris’ one eyebrow is messing with me😂
Thank you, now I cannot unsee it 😊
Same here 😆
The fact you only see one eyebrow is messing with me. 😊
Now just needs little finger to corner of mouth
That eyebrow is the source of Sam's power.
Can’t wait to listen to the full episode
Im so excited for this duo! 😍 love and respect both of these guys highly!! 😍
Meditation is a practice of calming down and clearing thoughts. It isn't some supernatural thing. It's about putting yourself into the moment.
Exactly. Just setting aside from time to just be.
The thig with You athiests is that You blame religion even for world hunger but take credit for every othe good thing, whether You liked it or not, spirituality cam with religion, it's a part and parcel of it, ya'll made fun of religious people, then realized the alarming suicide rates then decided that hey why not take th spirituality part and act that we came up with it, more entitled than a BTS fan base.
@@ReemMutasim-pr6rp Narrow sighted generalizations about 700 million people? Yeah, your arrogance is glaring.
@@badza47 While I agree I should've worded it better, what I was insinuating is that whenever an athiest talks spirituality, they make it sound as if it's something they came up with and not necessarily tied to religion. Thank You for pointin that out.
The camera quality is so good!
The light looks a bit too bright for Sam.
I can see the exact shade of lipstick & foundation he’s wearing!
Great stuff!
Listen to the hole episod. Wonderful conversation with two great minds 😊
No one would say they're a piano skeptic if they have never tried to learn piano. Meditation is something you can get better at with practice. You can find out for yourself what Sam is saying
Learning to play the piano leads to a pleasing sound for all to enjoy and appreciate. Not so with meditation. I can enjoy one’s music even if they’re a total asshole. Sharing your meditative experience doesn’t elieviate the asshole problem.
@@mr.c2485 I imagine if someone takes the time to meditate properly they'd probably stop being an asshole.
@@Cheximuslololllllllllll
Your comment evokes something that Harris wrote about in "Waking Up." He pointed out that it's relatively easy to determine whether someone is a golf pro. If they can reliably put the little white ball into the hole. And if you can't, then there is some ground for being interested in what they have to say.
But (Harris goes on) it's not so clear when it comes to spiritual attainment. And this may be the same difference that you're calling out between piano playing and meditation.
At least with the piano you can hear something. But successful mindfulness doesn't produce a phenomenon in the usual active sense. It produces a CESSATION of an inner monologue that we don't usually notice or regard as important to notice anyway. How do we begin to evaluate the cessation of a process when the act of evaluation itself runs in that process?
So it's altogether a bit tricky to talk about. But that doesn't mean that we have to resort to irrational claims or appeals to intuition. We could, at very little personal risk, try to sit quietly and see what effect that may have on the inner monologue.
Harris is pointing out that the first insight that we gain when we do this is that there really IS a running monologue. It's a very frustrating recognition, because it seems so very tedious and inescapable. But in fact it's already a sign of progress.
And, if we keep on with the practice, witnessing the inner monologue but not actively indulging it, we can see it gradually becoming quieter and more sparse. This second insight takes time to develop, and it's hard to gauge progress, but at least we are responsible for running our own laboratory here. No one is feeding us data that we must accept on faith. It's pleasant to sit with a quiet mind and look at the beauty of nature, or with the same quiet equanimity look at the natural course of fortune and misfortune in those we love. It's a skill worth cultivating.
@@mr.c2485you don’t “share your meditative experience”
I mean you can
But, you meditate and it tunes you to acceptance of the Unconditional Love Nature and Selfhood of the Infinite/Nothing
All will enjoy the melody of your life when you are tuned
Christ said “you will know them by their fruit”
Why is only 1 of Sam's eyebrows raised all the time
Alex you are an inspiration to me!
Oh gosh Alex is killing it with these guests. Its such a thrill going through your channel and recent uploads
Alex is meeting the neo atheist heroes one by one. Daniel Dennet's next.
We just have ressurect Hitchens and we're done!
No where near Hitchens
@@boredphilosopher4254why do they hate eachother?
I think Lawrence Krauss should have been the fourth horseman.
@@waffle.23 Because Daniel hates it when anyone tries to take his Compatibilism safety blanket away.
Christ himself is an “atheist”
Christ is a hero of atheism
But I never hear atheists admire Christ in the way you’d might Sam or Hitchens
Hey Alex I am a muslim but I enjoy your respectful conversations. That being said the five daily prayers our form of meditation definitely helps especially the prayer before dawn. I hope everyone finds contentment and happiness ❤
It’s like he said, it’s difficult for him to pray the way you do because he doesn’t have the same worldview. It would probably not be effective for him.
"I am a muslim but" -- Sigh.
So do you think having sex with a 9 year old is moral or immoral? And if immoral then why did your pedo prophet did it?
Two absolutely amazing thinkers. Can't wait.
Been advocating this for years! Finally. Well done Alex, years of hard work paid off.
Can anyone answer me this? If free will doesn't exist, then your destiny is a real thing? 'Destiny' IS real?
Only if you choose to label it such. I don't see a need to view this phenomenon as in any way separate from the fundamental causality in the universe. Events have effects. You are the effect of the collected thoughts and actions of the people who raised you, and the people who raised them, and raised them, and them, and them. It makes perfect sense without needing to resort to more nebulous concepts as I see it.
it's determinism
@mimimimona4149 I've seen arguments re determinism as destiny must have "free will", I disagree. It seems like destiny to me. It was destined to be.
@indinewall6112 You were destined to say that.... as was I to write this lol
This was what i was waiting for!
absolutely joy
Never thought I'd see this. Also first
Omnipresent
This better be a short 4hrs+ conversation Alex..
I fucking hope so
It’s 3hrs+
I love intelligent thoughtful conversation.
been waiting a long time forthisss
I’ve waited for years for this moment