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Streitbare Demokratie in Deutschland und den Vereinigten Staaten. Der staatliche Umgang mit nichtgewalttätigem politischem Extremismus im Vergleich - Flümann, Gereon (2015)
Income inequality in the U.S. from 1950 to 2010 by Holger Apel:
www.paecon.net/PAEReview/issue...
Utah Medicaid Expansion:
wapo.st/2SGQULR?tid=ss_tw&utm...
American attitude towards climate:
www.climaterealityproject.org...
Liberal Democracy is in a Crisis by Helena Rosenblatt:
www.theguardian.com/commentis...
ALEC / Koch Brothers:
www.thenation.com/article/ale...
Jimmy Carter on campaign funding:
www.huffingtonpost.com/eric-z...
NYTimes - The Conservative Force Behind Speeches Roiling College Campuses:
www.nytimes.com/2017/05/20/us...
Recently passed anti-bds bill:
www.miaminewtimes.com/news/ru...
ACLU - Marco Rubio and His Colleagues Need a Refresher on the First Amendment:
www.aclu.org/blog/free-speech...
BDS Movement FAQ:
bdsmovement.net/faqs
Cum-Ex Scandal: The Multibillion Euro Theft:
www.zeit.de/wirtschaft/2017-0...
Full story on the Cum-Ex Scandal:
cumex-files.com/en/
For 60th Year, Germany Honors Duty to Pay Holocaust Victims:
www.nytimes.com/2012/11/18/wo...
Costs for refugees Germany 2016/2017:
www.zeit.de/wirtschaft/2016-0...
Why & How Governments Support Renewable Energy by Kelly Sims Gallagher
www.mitpressjournals.org/doi/...
We Are Leaving Patreon: Dave Rubin and Jordan Peterson Announcement:
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Representing the Preferences of Donors, Partisans, and
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self hate represent
wjat?
self-hating american, checking in
wadup banana boi
Well i’m Straight white man(having Swedish and polish ancestory) so the self hate is strong with me.
Hey Hbomberguy, what measured response is planned next?
The Marketplace of Ideas went out of business because the Walmart of Nonsense opened nearby.
Pack it up everyone, this guy already mined all the meme gold for today.
@@Marc-ck2mu Oh, we finished the internet for the day. Cool. See everyone Monday!
BEST COMMENT
Holy shit! You nailed it. I'm stealing that.
+{Darth Cynicus] +{Ming Mongo]
So am I.
TFW your favourite German utters the phrase "democracy is kinda bad, right?"...
*[starts sweating profusely]*
*Prussia feeling intensified*
**muffled sound of Panzerlied starts playing in the distance**
*Soviet industrialization intensifies*
*[Maginot Line construction intensifies]*
**Italian urge to hötzendorf straight into Maginot Line emerges**
"the goal of holocaust denial is not to reach a more accurate historical consensus, but to rehabilitate nazi ideology."
oof. yeah... i guess!
i feel stupid for not realizing this myself.
Victoria Luther its ok. The fascists are clever as fuck. Fascism was Made to confuse liberals and scapegoating leftist.
No shame, comrad.
"How can we use Mexie's narration in the worst possible way" is now the central question of the Lefttube. :-)
Hi
Love ur channel
Oh dam I love that Lefttube haha it's so true
"Usually, she's not that angry..."
Oooga booga! The evil lefties 😂, morons don't even know the spectrum, there is left right and authoritarian and libertarian. For instance, the authoritarian left and libertarian left disagree, and supposedly vice versa, unfortunately the "right" has become the refuge of the low iq, so they can't understand nuance
May I interest you in an idea for only $19.99 + anti-democratic shipping and handling?
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I knew you were a fellow commie.
EmperorTigerstar oh hey wassup god
good to see you here tigerstar
why cant you just stick to drawing your different coloured maps tiger and not be another left wing 'intellectual'
Fun facts: Actual Marketplace have a lot of rules & restrictions on what you can sells.
You cant sell illegal drugs for example and agree to conditions beforehand. Or else everyone would sell expensive alcoholic drinks.
@Ma Pa Which RPG? D&D? GURPS?
That's true. You also can't make price dependend on who's buying it. Thus why every product in the super market has the same price regardless of who's buying it. On an actual market you would be able to for example ask for a higher price from a rich person than from a poor person, since you know the rich person is able to pay more.
Also they won't accept my own money I invented
Trust me, if ancaps, hardcore libertarians, and the like were in charge, there would be _no rules or restrictions_ of any kind*. You wanna sell heroin to preschoolers? Sure, no problem.
And the worst thing is.. they think that's actually a good thing.
*Possible exception: A ban on theft. After all, property rights are sacred. More sacred than human rights.
Christ that Ben Shapiro clip where he talks about selling submerged land... did he not... ever... realize... what he was saying there? How is it possible to stand there and say that, and continue talking, as if he's making sense? Submerged land. Submerged... land. I can't...
Muscle farmers?
Yeah, that was something else, holy fuck people listen to him
it's okay because he talks fast.
hahaha. Submerged Land Sells.... but who's buying?
@@kawaiiobama8079 He even talked slower at that point.
*Oh my god, that ending:*
"... democracies fail when citizens stop believing in the legitimacy of democratic institutions and even if we are able to protect ourselves from extremist elements, what is currently hollowing-out our institutions is the encroaching oligarchy which the US and Germany are struggling to ward-off.
Maintaining a democracy is constant struggle and one that sometimes requires being realistic instead of idealistic. I would love to live in a world where ideals and Voltaire quotes were all that mattered but history demands we put facts over feelings. And the fact is that: pointing-out to your countrymen that he is committing the "naturalistic fallacy" won't prevent him from bulldozing your body into an open mass grave because he deems you inferior. In the same vein, it is also a fantasy to think people who have the power to bend democracy to their will, won't use that power given the opportunity. Extremists break the marketplace of ideas because they don't play by its rules; the same way the rich can bypass it entirely for their own benefit.
If we want to keep our freedoms and our ability to self-govern, we should not just view the Richard Spencers of the world as anti-democratic threats but also the Kochs, the Mercers and everyone else who is able to replace a good argument, with money." DAMN, I'm so using this.
Very iconic
Youre really gonna use the whole thing?
Yeah right, thats such a cool story bro!
thank you for writing it out so I don't have to.. this is an incredible video wow
@@sicarii545 You're welcome! ^.^
The 'pointing out a fallacey won't stop them bulldozing you into a massgrave" hits especially hard for me since I'm a philosophy and politics nerd and while despise the right wing grifters for abusing logic and the aesthetics of reason, I'm aware all the time that they'd rather just shoot us in the head, and its scary as heck.
It's really telling how Ben Shapiro is more worried about coastal property than the people living there.
It’s funny because he’s literally acting like “Rabbi SheckleSnatcher”
"Democracies fail when citizens stop believing in the legitimately of democratic institutions." After seeing what happened after the 2020 presidential election this is VERY concerning
Well...
The other side thinks about abolishing the police(to commit all what they want)
To get rid of whole institutions because they are of "white men", because "they are white institutions"
I mean, they don't believe in freedom, they just want to impose their narrow view and cancel everything else.
Its getting worse.
Little bit of hopium for you guys - midterms were not a red wave, moreso a red fart in a blue ocean. So maybe we can come out the other side of this better
Putin got everything he asked for in Trump and the GOP
"A relentless fight against the status quo is enough to be lable an extremist in the US" - Three Arrow
Aint that the truth.
civil rights, womens sufferage, gay rights, trans right. All of these got/get labelled as being extremist overthere by the people who prefer the status quo.
I also got called an extremists for making computer access for everyone, healthcare, travel, housing, internet, theatre, friendship, water and food a human right. It gets crazier by the day.
@@TheKingartur007 whoa there buddy, easy on those ideals, we don't need no healthcare, that's for the nazis.
@@acino8447 The system itself does not equal status quo
@@disappointingperson9162 in USA status quo is two bourgeois parties driving capitalist class interests. That governance system is so old, couple hundred years older than the solution to that, or parliament. USA has no ideologies fighting for power and keeping each others accountable for voters. That would mean working class, a majority, would get laws through that would benefit themselves
"Here's the Rosa Parks of pronoun usage talking about these organizations"
**Cut to Jordan Peterson whining about the SPLC**
GOLD.
You really are my favourite self loathing German ❤️
@@Urnogod Yeah, that's totally my struggle.
Hopefully you self youathing german can educate unknowingly self loathing people around the world.
I am also a self-loathing German
Self-loathing German gang
@SSJ Shapiro Sure but it's not ok to be a Nazi
How do you do, fellow extremists?
Just preparing the anarchist revolution, nothing unusual.
You guys again? Don't you have neo-Nazis to cover for?
It's an obvious fake account. The Verfassungsschutz would never work.
Planning to coordinate with the social neomarxist conspiracy and the lizard people to fight against the lobster people.
@@jonsnor4313 Brother Snor, I do hope to see you at the next Stonecutters meeting! We're inviting Three Arrows in, and will be having the best German lager!
Last time I was this early, Dave Rubin was a liberal
lel
😂😂😂
LOLquendoTV I doubt he was ever truly liberal. The left wing doesn’t have as much money as the right.
@@renegade_legend2583 honestly I think he just drank the anti sjw juice until he somehow convinced himself that Reaganomics was the way to go, and then that koch money probably didnt hurt that process
*kool-aid, dont know why I wrote down juice
Benny Shantoinette: "You say the peasants are complaining that their houses are underwater?"
"Let them move inland!"
Oceanside property is worth millions of dollars. They are hardly the "peasants" that you make them out to be.
@@megahunterkiller Ah, my good sir, but you don't even need to be anywhere near the sea to get flooded when sea levels could rise 2 to 2.7m before 2100.
@@freddiet.rowlet525 assuming that sea levels do indeed rise by that amount, the overwhelming majority of people who lose property will not be the peasants or poor. Stop trying to make rich people out to be peasants. You should be more focused on the inland rural folks who will most likely be impacted by everyone moving inland.
It’s not like the sea levels will rise all at once. This is a gradual change a change that we are already seeing.
@@freddiet.rowlet525 I also would like to know where you’re getting these numbers from.
Sea levels are poised to be about 1.5 meters higher by 2100, not the 2.7 meters you claim
@@megahunterkiller Just FYI fishing towns are a thing, even in the US. Also, this is not going to happen in the States only, so try thinking about other places and peoples too, if it's not too hard. Elsewhere, living by the sea is totally unrelated to someone's wealth.
Oh my god. I can not believe that someone with the channel name "Three arrows" would quote Rosa Luxemburg.
The Rosa Parks of pronoun usage! I can't
😂😂😂
Chapos guys really got him good there
colour me extremist. great vid! as always. thanks for the shoutout :)
Mexie
I hope in the American way
@Baby Thanos Mexie is adverse to questioning dogma. She's not a think-for-your-selfer type
@Baby Thanos Nah, she's got Uni level indoctrination, everyone who disagrees with her is a racist, sexist, bigot, nazi, kkk etc etc. You cannot break that religion-like conditioning. She would have to be open to the idea that people who oppose her worldview operate in good faith.
Who are y'all? Your discussion makes like 0 sense...
The whole higher education equals indoctrination stick is such an obvious coping mechanism, to deal with an inferiority complex.
"Oh you've achieved a level of education I couldn't?
Well it's definitly not because you worked harder than myself to do so. No it must be because I was too smart for the indoctrination. "
The lobster man always sounds like he is crying in self-pity when talking.
Who else would cry for him?
You people are making the same mistake the right wingers do; he's a psychologist who happens to have political views; not the other way around.
@@EuropeanQoheleth A political view-ist that has psychology?
HE ist depressive (really)
Complaining Qoheleth No he is a psychologist who is hired to have political views and it seems to reform the right so they don’t seem extreme.
So he takes a previously far right extremist anti-Semitic John Birch Society narrative and blames obscure dead French philosophers instead.
While advocating for an unquestioning of the oligarchy corporate oil extremism.
This is how bizarre the market place of ideas becomes. If you can manufacture intellectuals and pundits you can make the inexcusable sound reasonable.
It baffles me how anyone can ignore climate change and protect those directly responsible for this threat. The mental gymnastics needed to ignore reality is impressive. Remind me again, who swallowed the red pill?
Its simple, in the US, oil companies "lobby" (legally bribe) politicians which those corrupt assholes tell their millions of supportersthst trust them that "it's a liberal conspiracy" and in the age of identity politics they believe them. Also, cutting back on energy sources like oil and coal would also hit the economy pretty hard.
@@Legitpenguins99 Yeah I understand the how I'm just again baffled by those who willingly sit in the passenger seat while the driver jumps out. The economy taking a hit doesn't worry me nearly as much as letting the infection continue to fester.
@@f4b0 Well, to piggy back off the "marketplace of ideas" theme, propaganda is basically just marketing - the marketing of ideas. If you spend hundreds of million dollars convincing people how awesome your hamburgers are, for instance, they will buy your hamburgers. And if you spend that money to convince people global warming is a hoax, they will be believe global warming is a hoax. Marketing works.
2FaaN : I cannot wrap my head around it, either.💔🤦🏻♀️It’s gut-wrenching.
The one ‘clue that I felt tapped in on something about ( let’s face it, the nature
of cruelty, and how LITTLE ‘thinking’ people actually don’t bother to do...
On RUclips, there’s an excellent conversation with Stanley Kubrick, who managed
to read everything++ about the state of the USA/USSR Nuclear Weapons situation,
before he made the incredible ‘Dr. Strangelove’...he noted, “ People aren’t good with
Abstractions...” He seemed to understand that...it’s not the way I interact with the
world, but, as blatant as it is now ( Dead reefs, the Doomsday Clock including Global
Warming, Venice flooding, is there anything left of the Maldives...? ) I think that fact,
coupled with a ‘Mob Mentality’, and some vast emptiness that people fill up with plain
stupid behavior ( Adults who Argue, and a strange insecurity...I saw a few Episodes of
that ‘Real Housewives’ series about a decade ago, and none of them had #Bookcases! )
In any event, it’s a Void. The lack of an Inner Life, coupled with a Cowardice, an Aversion
towards : #Curiosity, #Fearfulness, and a #FootstampingAnger, as delivered by Brett
Kavanaugh and Lindsey Graham. I hope that you follow #GretaThunberg on #Twitter✌🏾🌍❤️
How much of the recent changes in the climate are due to our activities ?
What can we currently do to reduce or reverse climate change and what price would we pay?
Is it possible or viable to stop climate change or do we need to look at adapting to the changing climate and (for example) move away from low lying regions?
China and India are the biggest polluters and are both increasing their production of pollutants. Whereas we, in the west pollute less and are reducing our emmisions. What should we do about China and india?
Does asking these questions make me a climate change denier?
"Insert Brexit joke here" It's Brexit. Brexit is the joke.
The DUP steering it around Northern Ireland is the punchline
You lost. Get over it.
Tbf everyone lost.
Bremain is the joke.
No, @AlphaMikeOmega, Remain lost. Britain will vote for a socialist government, one day. You can be in the EU or you can have a socialist government. It's one or the other, you can't have both.
that ben shapiro clip tho
how much is underwater land going to sell for, lol
I agree with what you're saying about the limitations US government power, as opposed to "private" power, being used to regulate hate speech. I just wanted to add a bit of context about the SPLC and the role of nonprofit organizations in the US political system, at the risk of telling you something you might already know.
My main issue with your analysis is referring to these groups as "private sector" organizations, but this might just be a cultural/linguistic difference. In the US, the phrase "private sector" is used almost exclusively to refer to for-profit companies and entities that do not have providing public services as a primary part of their mission statement, whereas the "public sector" refers to governmental entities. However, the "nonprofit sector" is quite different in its social and economic role in the US and refers to charitable organizations. It includes everything from the Red Cross to the National Rifle Association.
The SPLC is a 501(c)3 charitable organization, referring to the legal code for the tax-exempt status conferred on charities. These groups "must be organized and operated exclusively for exempt purposes set forth in section 501(c)(3), and none of its earnings may inure to any private shareholder or individual. In addition, it may not be an action organization, i.e., it may not attempt to influence legislation as a substantial part of its activities and it may not participate in any campaign activity for or against political candidates." They are also legally required to collect as much donor information as possible and to disclose all that information and their complete financial reports for each fiscal year. (Source: www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/charitable-organizations/exemption-requirements-section-501c3-organizations)
SPLC reported an operating budget of just over $44 million and nearly $450 million in total assets for FY 2017 (Source: www.splcenter.org/sites/default/files/103117_afs.pdf) This arguably makes SPLC a mid-sized charity by US standards, with the largest foundations dwarfing these numbers by an order of magnitude (Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wealthiest_charitable_foundations). The median salary for nonprofit CEOs is $123,000 annually in 2014, though there were 76 organizations with CEO compensation over $500,000, including 10 that were over $1 million. (Source: d20umu42aunjpx.cloudfront.net/2016+CEO+Comp+Study/2016+CEO+Compensation+Study.pdf)
The nonprofit sector is vital to the functionality of society in the US, as the federal government and many state governments are loathe to allocate funds for and/or to directly provide social services, as I'm sure you know. I just felt the need to add this context for anyone who cares. Again, I'm sorry if I'm repeating stuff that people already know and for the long comment, but this distinction is quite salient to the understanding the functions of US society.
Big fan here. Keep up the great work!
Thanks a lot for typing this. It is quite useful :)
As a right wing conservative boi I really like your content. Gives me a different perspective and sometimes changes my opinion. Above all, keeps me from falling down certain rabbit holes.
Thing about being on the right you are willing to listen to the left and debate correctly and sometimes you agree with them but I've found speaking to alot of the left they don't want to debate they just straight up rage and call you a racist. My experience anyway hope yours has been better
As a leftist, I have essentially the opposite impression. I suspect a lot of this is just ingroup/outgroup bias to be honest.
As an avowed leftist, it's nice to see right wing conservative bois willing to argue in good faith. I firmly believe you are the key to making the world a better place.
@@michaelcarney6280 What do you think these videos are Michael? What you are exhibiting is confirmation bias. The idea that the right listen and the left don't is itself an act of not listening, promulgated in your online echo chambers. All left wing outlets have right wingers arguing with the left but right wing areas have no debate with the left, they are about reinforcement.
@@tomgjgj agreed Tom
And my Friday was dragging by so slow... nothing like a Three Arrows video to make my day better! Thank you for what you do bro.
I know! He's probably the best socio-political youtuber out there
Here’s the one thing you got wrong: U.S. “democracy” doesn’t require a majority vote for any political party to take a majority of the power. The way we draw congressional districts and elect presidents ensures that small states wield much more power than larger ones, and that parties can crystallize their congressional power, no matter how small their support becomes.
I fear that he is overestimating how "robust" the US democracy is. In reality, all democracies are incredible fragile.
Surely the electoral college system is set up to ensure less densely populated states have an equal say in the election of the federal government.
Without the EC system, if you worked on a farm or in a mining town, then without the electoral system, your vote would
for norhing
@@ZoomahZoomah that implies that working class people in the country don't have the same interests (not wants) as those in the city, as though higher minimum wage, vacation entitlement, the 5 day working week things that were largely brought about by union agitation in the city don't benefit workers in the country. Also with plurality politics, it's winner takes all, Republicans in Democrat controlled states get denied representation and vice versa.
@@giansideros There are definitely problems with the American political system. I don't believe the electoral college system is one of them.
Gerrymandering and the EC exacerbate the problem, but it really comes down to first-past-the-post elections. Those are the reason the UK conservatives were barely able to hang on to power.
Three Arrows uploaded immediately after BadMouse? My two dads make me so happy
Working together now?
I like 3 arrows content, but I think badmouse is an idiot. That's my personal view anyway.
I suspect something sinister in the works, since badmouse talked about the DDR.
@@jammyjamjars6995 he is wrong in some parts to be honest.
@@jammyjamjars6995 I think they are both quite smart personally. I prefer Three Arrows myself, due to the format and more hard hitting analysis really
"Favourite self-loathing german"?
Pftt.
You're my favourite self-loathing person point blank
Too soon. Rip.
Poor Opportunity. 😥
My favorite German
“The price for freedom is eternal vigilance”
-some dude who’s name I forgot
Love the content, Three Arrows, just one question:
WHY DID YOU PERSONALLY KILL ROSA LUXEMBURG WITH YOUR BARE HANDS?!
Thanks, much love ;)
I don't get what was the point of that whole bit? People criticized him for using symbols of the group that killed her and he dismisses the criticism not by addressing it but by making a joke about it or what?
What got Rosa Luxemburg murdered was a bit more than just dissenting... >_>
@@RoonMian What, did Rosa do something problematic? :/
@@wildcardbitchesyeehaw8320 Im curious, too.
"Social democracy is objectively the moderate wing of fascism."
This sentence rings as true today as it was when the SPD had Luxemburg and Liebknecht murdered by right wing death squads.
Again and again the social democrats have proven themselves traitors to the working class, lackeys of the bourgeoisie and enablers of fascism.
As a fellow self-loathing German, I loved the video. I never had a good rebuttal to the free market of ideas so I am eternally grateful for this break down. Usually when the discussions turned to this concept (moreso because I lived for years in the UK, moved back because of the Brexit mess) I tended to fall back on the "Die Würde des Menschen is unantastbar" line in our constitution.
Ich freue mich schon auf das nächste Video.
The fact that you strive for an argument why the state should be able to shut someone up should tell you that you are on the wrong side of the argument.
Well, power exists. Lack of money can shut people up. If people can be shut up, it's not unreasonable to ask for shutting up of specific people. Laws may be universal, but situations aren't.
As a therapist (with all the ethics codes that come with such a privileged job), I find Jordan Peterson’s obsession with the idea that people should be able to say whatever they want quite disturbing. The more power you have to be able to influences people’s lives, the greater the ethical requirement to watch what you say.
The only reason he has that obsession is because it is in his way to say the things he _really_ wants to say.
I was wondering what you are referring to, I hadn't heard that from him. And I have watched a lot. I have heard him say he is very careful about what he says and how. That it needs clearly defining when ideologies go to far, and for the extremes to be excluded from the conversation. Curious.
@@iantodoyle7876 Like all his fans, you need to either learn to pay more attention or just stop being disingenous. He always insinuates all the opinions and then acts super offended when he is called on the things he very deliberately built up between the lines. "I didn't say that".
Well, you did to anyone with working understanding of English.
@@Carewolf exactly, he doesn't want to be accountable for his on words, neither the conclusion that he followers jump to.
@@iantodoyle7876 There's a reason why people continually ask him about "The Jewish Problem" during Q&A's. He laughs them off fairly mildly, but never outright condemns them because he's smart enough to know that his philosophies attract people of certain ideologies and those ideologies have ideas that can't be spoken outright in public without hostility. You can dress up 'Cultural Marxism' all you want, but the dogs will always hear you whistling 'Jews', for example. When people call him out on it he pulls his head in, but it always comes back out.
25:34 Ben Shapiro gets sluaghtered.
With facts and Logic.
gets ARROW'D*
The best part is, by himself.
Amazing what happens when you can actually make out what he's saying.
These videos continue to impress me over and over again. They must take so much effort
I GROW BY 6 INCHES WHENEVER I LISTEN TO YOU DANIEL :*
@CD Arthurkins OMG, someone finally understands my art :D loya ya, buddy
@CD Arthurkins I detest people like Alex Jones and consider them bad actors but imagine this: Alex creates a reaction channel where he watches "cultural marxist globalist" content and reacts to it.
Now tell me it wouldn't be the most entertaining content on RUclips :P Especially now that he's reached a new level of #enlightenment :D
Good talking to you, man. The internet rarely makes me smile these days :P
I only grow by 3 inches, am I less of a fan?
This guy is amazing! I grow a full 1/4 centimeter every time I hear his voice!
Something in my pants grows by six inches whenever I watch a Three Arrows video.
Eine ausgezeichnete und bis jetzt nie dagewesene Erörterung der verfassungsrechtlichen und staatlich-institutionellen Sicherheitmechanismen im Bezug auf die freie Meinungsäußerung in Deutschland und den Vereinigten Staaten.
Endlich ein neues politisch-philosophisches Niveau auf RUclips. Das einfältige Bashen von Seiten der alt-right Kanäle ist wirklich langweilig und billig geworden. Auf so einen Kanal habe ich gewartet.
*An excellent and never seen before in-deepth analysis of constitutional and institutional mechanism which are applied to the right of free speech in Germany and the United States.
Finally a new political and philosophical level on RUclips. The shortminded bashing and pseudo philosophical videos on alt-right channels are becoming rather boring and especially lazy. A channel like this one is exactly what I have been waiting and hoping for.
Fast auf dem interlektuellen Niveau eines Blokkmonsta-Sprechgesang-Textes.
jawollo ich auch
Hört mehr Disarstar und Taktikka :D
blablabla ich bin so gebildet! pöpöpöh
OH. MY. GOD! I can not believe that someone with the channel name "ThReE ArRoWs" would DARE to quote ROSA LUXEMBURG! May I remind you that it was the GERMAN SOCIAL DEMOCRAT
2019 USA is what happens when whole generations were made afraid to read books that even discuss class conflict, simply because Karl Marx was the first theorist to set forth a specific framework to examine class & capitalism.
My generation (GenX) grew up in an America where asking a librarian for a copy of Kapital was taboo.
The white male acquiescence to American fascism has its roots in McCarthyism & how public education in the USA had become a virtual propaganda course for capitalism by the 1960s.
Brett Orlob You almost get it then you fall into the “white man bad” meme
@@BigManUndead most American white men are falling for fascism. That's just a fact you can't hide from, snowflake.
@@BigManUndead what is wrong with citing facts and oberving history? It wasnt Africa colonizing Europe through genocide, to the contrary. Europeans colonized the world and what that meant was genocide on every continent over the course of centuries. Even to this day the USA participates in genocide, stifles democracy in Latin and South America, and Asia by supporting authoritarians and wannabe dictators. Dont be so stupid.
Our elites arent repentant, and we are simply taking account of their prerogatives.
@tiglath pileser what "race" if any did I reference? It's you who immediately goes to thinking in terms of race.
@@diogenesofseattle2344 Give us proof that most white men Support fascism. No, voting trump does Not mean someone is fascist. I highly doubt that most white men want an autocratic, centralized dictatorship with oppression of Opposition.
"Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them.-In this formulation, I do not imply, for instance, that we should always suppress the utterance of intolerant philosophies; as long as we can counter them by rational argument and keep them in check by public opinion, suppression would certainly be most unwise. But we should claim the right to suppress them if necessary even by force; for it may easily turn out that they are not prepared to meet us on the level of rational argument, but begin by denouncing all argument; they may forbid their followers to listen to rational argument, because it is deceptive, and teach them to answer arguments by the use of their fists or pistols. We should therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate the intolerant."
Karl Popper
May I please go one day without seeing the Lobster Man on the Black Rectangle
Exactly.
That dude and his cult aren't going anywhere anytime soon, unfortunetly.
^ Poe's law?
@SSJ Shapiro
Look, you've pretty much hit all the buzzwords for a typical Peterson fan already. History has taught me that engaging with folks at this level of indoctrination wont be productive.
When you're ready to drop the combativeness and seriously question your cult, feel free to come back.
Marc Patti Like caterpillar mustaches, ska music & Libertarianism, he’ll grow out of it.
"There is no document Americans consider more sacrosanct than the Constitution"
Even if they dont bother to read it.
a wild Mexie appears
Three Arrows I think is the only RUclipsr who can tell a joke in a monotone voice and still be funny.
It's called deadpan humor.
Cough, cough. Shaun.
Germans be like that.
Even if the "market place of ideas" was a thing, like all marketplaces its not the best or most honest ideas that triumph, its whatever you can make people believe in. It doesn't matter if it's true or good for them, all that matters is the advertising, the packaging and the dishonest tactics. The goal is to sell ideas by whatever means necessary. Profit is all that matters. Not even the product does.
Extremely important point.
@@Dorian_sapiens Thaknkyou :)
Who decides what ideas are true one good?
The idea of the marketplace of ideas is that you get to say anything you want to say and if what you are saying resonated with people then they are likely to spread your ideas.
If you hear an idea you disagree with an idea then you can argue against it.
@@ZoomahZoomah ideally that would be the goal. However, some ideas have better chance to resonate then others. Either because the person exposing the idea is charismatic, or propped up by a big platform. That doesnt make the idea good just more likely to catch on.
@@blackearl7891 Like anything else, free speech is imperfect and there is the possibility of corruption or Subversion.
The approach we have at the minute is evidence of that.
I'm in the UK and presently we have an increasingly censorious government and media spurred on by special interest groups.
In Britain our legal system is founded on the principle of equality under the law. Since the 1980s there has been a scramble for a variety of groups to be more equal under the law. Presently this is manifesting itself in the police force that appears to be more interested in policing opinions on social media than anything else
Not only are you one of my favorites you've taken the time to do subtitles! As my hearing sucks you're a go to in certain situations. Thank you!
I am my favorite self loathing german, tut mir leid
Wait, how does that work???
Dorian sapiens whatuyumean?
@@FinnBaygan If you're self-loathing, how can you also be your favorite?
@@Dorian_sapiens loathing everyone else even more I guess?
@@sauleiwanderapfelstrudel Dang, that does make sense.
I have one small critique.
While it is possible to amend the Constitution, it is incredibly difficult to do so. I'm not too familiar with the Weimar Republic's constitution, but in the US case it takes an overwhelming majority of state legislatures to ratify the constitution, not a simple majority of the American population. In 200 odd years it's only been done 27 times.
And, if I'm not mistaken, those 27 times actually occurred in bursts, with several amendments being added in rapid succession, at moments in history when there was strong public sentiment in support of change.
OH. MY. GOD! I can not believe that someone with the channel name "ThReE ArRoWs" would DARE to quote ROSA LUXEMBURG! May I remind you that it was the GERMAN SOCIAL DEMOCRAT-
was expecting a crusades video, but this is probably even better! I might even place it among the best videos you've made!
This paradox of pure tolerance is one where even Karl Popper believed that, in order to preserve freedom, we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Basically, to treat anyone advocating for totalitarian systems (he was thinking fascism) as an enemy within. But as the example of Germany shows, States cannot be trusted to carry out this vital duty. It then falls upon us to oppose those who preach intolerance, starting with Nazis and fascists. Edit: Let me add that opposition to the intolerant includes violence if necessary. With fascists and Nazis, it often is.
So i assume that extends to fundamentalist Islam?
@@conor3361 If it ever came to pose a credible threat, in principle yes, but surprise surprise there are people within the Muslim community who do oppose them and seem to have the matter well in hand. It's a paper dragon of concern only to those trying to hide their swastikas. Fascists and Nazis remain the larger threat, and it is our responsibility to make sure they never come to power again.
@@conor3361 I second Trstan's observation. Here in the Netherlands, our parliament has a 150 seats. 2 of them are in the hands of a Muslim party (not a fundamentalist muslim party, just regular ass ones). 26 are in the hands of Fascists. Up and until that situation is reversed, fascists are the much bigger threat to our society than any form of Islam is.
Other than that I fully subscribe to Popper's notion that intolerance cannot be tolerated.
@@alexgroot2508 And the way things are going, we can safely rule out Islam in any form as a threat. I assume, based on your description, that this Muslim party is fairly inoffensive anyway. Denk, right?
@@tristanband4003 Denk it is. I would not quite call them inoffensive, as they are basically Turko-philes in their ideology, something that makes them questionable because 1) The current Turkish regime is demonstrably autocratic and 2) it puts into question where their loyalties lie. Other than that they are basic centre left. But aside from questionable and occasionaly obnoxious, they are not dangerous.
And again wholly agree: most muslims demonstrably moderates in their actions (as I think Shaun demonstrated in one of his videos), whereas the far-right is not. When a muslim walks into a bar, I dont notice. When a fascist does, I leave.
Can you make a video about “race realism”?
@Baby Thanos Cute.
@Baby Thanos Do you regret the Trout and tea saga? A repetition would be awesome!
@Baby Thanos
Nice joke^^
Well personally I think slavish devotion to realism makes racing kind of boring. Maybe Mario Kart is taking it too far, but perfectly following a line in an attempt to squeeze out a few hundreds of a second is excessively stressful and not fun. Also realism means licensing real vehicles which historically means restrictions on the damage modeling, which is itself a compromise of realism when one of the physical principles restricting speed is the mechanical limits of the design and materials...
You mean something else, don't you.
@Baby Thanos Race is real but the way we organise it is social.
I’m a world where political parties accuse each other of being idiots and political youtuber create drama unnecessarily, you are the voice of reason and logic we truly need.
You’re definitely my favourite self loathing German btw.
This channel is pure gold, I'm so glad I found it.
Hell yes new three arrows!!
Three Arrows uses a SW Prequel clip in his video=hbomberguy feels suddenly euphoric for some reason in his house/garage/shed.
Great video as always!
In America, we love free speech so much that somehow found a way to legalize bribery with it...
@Mexie that clip you did for this is Brilliant!
You’re the only German I know from RUclips because I only know English. So you’re by default my favorite self loathing German
well here is another one though I can only help you out with german movies :P
United States: "You can't tell me what to say."
United Kingdom: "Don't be a nazi."
Germany: "Support Democracy."
South Korea: "Dissent is banned."
Translation
America: Free speech
UK: No
Germany: Fuck No
South Korea: Absolutely Not
Dahnald Drumpf completely free speech is self-destructive
xbertocoaylax we don’t have completely free speech, but even so the allowance of continual misinformation has fractured our country on a fundamental level. While I’m ok with most bad information being spread, bad faith actors and knowing liars should legitimately be jailed because democracy relies on an informed voter base and the flagrant misinformation that our media engages in is destructive to us on a fundamental level
@@JacatackLP if speech isn't free you don't have free speech. You're the dishonest actor and I will protect your right to be dishonest, regardless of how much I hate it.
Alt-Centrist NeoBuddhist-AnarchoBonapartist what a whole bunch of nothing you just said
13:31 Couldn't this logic be used to ban any viewpoint? I could call for making it illegal to say that communism works simply based on the Soviet atrocities. This logic was used by the catholic church to go after protestants during the reformation.
Daniel, new video, put it directly into my veins. Thanks!
Dis that good stuff
You don't upload often, but when you do, we can always expect the best
Great video
I love your videos. In my opinion this one stands out in terms of quality and effort. I signed up to become a Patreon of yours while wathching it.
Thanks man!
Insert poppers paradox of intolerance meme
It's always a good day when Three Arrows throws down. Great video sir!!
Wait, you actually really are my favourite self-loathing german, that intro was spot on man!
Here's a tip: Never, ever take anything serious that is uttered by Steven Crowder, Ben Shapiro, Stefan Molyneux and Dinesh D'Souza.
OH. MY. GOD! I cannot believe that someone with the channel name "ThReE ArRoWs" would DARE to quote ROSA LUXEMBURG! Let me remind you that it was the GERMAN SOCIAL-DEMOCRAT
Social Democrats are traitors to the working class and a tool of the capitalist bourgeoisie to fool and tranquilize the masses. And yes, the Social Democrats had Rosa Luxemburg murdered.
@@transsylvanian9100 yes, I know about Rosa. Disagree about the first point, and believe some SocDems are well-intentioned tho.
@@artur_pc The SPD is just a different colored CDU at the moment.
Love your information, and love the Herb Alpert "Spanish Flea" at 5:08.
Thanks for making this video. I have learned some new things today.
To be honest, I don’t think the “yelling fire in a crowded theater” argument is really one that touches the concept of free speech.
You can yell fire all you want, the speech is perfectly protected.
What isn’t protected is knowingly endangering people. If your vocal chords are the tool you used for that, it doesn’t change the fact that what you’re being accosted for is the endangerment.
Similarly, being charged with a crime because you’re dancing behind the wheel of a car isn’t a “dancing” regulation but a vehicular regulation. The dancing on its own is fine, what you’re accosted for is distracted driving.
In the light of what I have seen in recent years I wonder if "the free marketplace of ideas" come with their own market failures just like any market. A few years ago I was almost a free speech absolutist but I am starting to feel more and more that its not as simple as that.
Great video
Awesome work, 3 Arrows. Thanks so much.
Its gotten more and more difficult to find objective and informative videos on a complex subject. Bravo! You are a hero to the minds of the human race!
Absolutely love your videos. I’m curious to actually hear a leftist talk about these topics, as RUclips is dominated by a right wing voice.
"' Dominated "" how ?
Just because they cry the loudest and bitch about every kind of minor stuff on YT or Twitter doesn't mean they dominate YT.
MysticMarble yeah, but it’s quite mainstream now. These right wing bastards have infected the minds of everyone- even people who’d otherwise be left wing. Look at people like Ben Shapiro, who argues against college students not educated in media like him, and considers them “rekt”. It’s things like this that have degraded the left.
@@rainer_uncrowned Im quite certain MSM does not take people like Ben serious ... Hence why if ever he has to go on Fox News for tv appearances.
MysticMarble yeah I guess, but the left isn’t as popular as it used to be, and that saddens me. That’s why people like Corbyn and Sanders didn’t win their respective elections: they were smeared by the reactionary right.
@@rainer_uncrowned but there is no smearing by the left, huh?
Do I hear a Mexie? I think I hear a Mexie :)
Nicely put together video, great job.
Another excellent video, keep up the awesome work!
"The US is usually much more lenient when it comes to demonstrations." That aged badly.
Tearing down confederate statues freely just screams not so great at demonstrations.
@@POPCANA thats a good thing
25:50 There's just one problem: SELL the HOUSES to WHOM BEN?!1?! FUCKING AQUA MAN ?!1??eleven!?!1
Much respect to Comrade Three Arrows, more respect than I've got, but respect none the less. Thank you for all you do, much appreciation.
Thanks for posting this. I find your analysis brilliant and important considering where you’re from. Cheers
Free speech must remain a sacred principle. Those that oppose this freedom can not be tolerated.
Your desire to not tolerate opposing viewpoints proves your argument to be nonsensical sophistry.
@@evanerys The paradox of intolerance is intreaguing. I don't pretend to have figured it all out. I suspect that there are domains of applicability to both tolerance and intolerance.
I misspoke earlier. The exact phraseology is hard to pin down. Opposing views should be actively sought out and considered. The process by which we discover and evolve is more important than the current state we find ourselves. Free speech is the most important aspect of this process. Those that oppose this process must be opposed vigorously and ridiculed. We must be allowed to think for ourselves.
It is hard to condense all of that into a single quote.
You're so, so close
@@sagebias2251 I have no objection to any argument in good faith. Fascist arguments are invariably mendacious manipulations to serve a drive for power and nothing else.
@@evanerys Can't fascists make good faith arguments? I think I have heard from honest fascists before.
Had me with the intro. Lmao Love yah 3 Arrows. Can't wait to get my check from Soros.
kool. A fellow halo player : )
Shame that 343 has screwed up so much. Hope halo infinite isn't trash but you know... It's hard to have faith these days.
And I too am waiting for my check : )
Just yesterday I thought: a new Three Arrows video would be nice. And here it is :D
Junge krankes Video. Ich treibe mich auch auf der englischsprachigen RUclips-Scene rum und deine Videos sind mit Shaun die besten. Mukke 29:31 signalisiert einfach den Mic Drop. Patreon ist da.
Me when I get a notification of a new Three Arrows video:
"Yeah this is worth pausing the Majority Report for."
Sam Seder is a right winger, who panders to the left.
...just like David AIPACman.
@Ma Pa
text lingo...are you the smartest 2nd grader in your class?
Majority Report is vomit. Sam Seder is a hater. Just look at how he smears Jimmy Dore because Dore actually dares to call out all the corruption in the Democratic Party and has rightly said that taking over a party like that is next to impossible. You have the entire media machine and 90% of the party against you.
@@donHooligan and yeah David Pakman has proven time and time again where his real loyalty lies.
That Vivaldi intro music
This was great, Keep up the great work!
Top of the line work.
A perfect two for one.
Just Brilliant.
Breadtube award contender.
"the rosa parks of pronoun usage" i fucking DIED
18:48 "like nazi germany or franco spain"
Hold up. There was an actual civil war in spain for that particular regime change, and spain has a history of military coups to usher in their dictatorships. The (yes, few and flawed) democratic periods of spain never have transitioned into dictatorships by way of propaganda or a lack of public resistance to far-right ideas. I understand where the analogy comes from, but it doesn't work to illustrate the point.
Here for the change up in production! Its a nice change of pace
This video is needed more than ever right now.
New video from Three Arrows and new JoJo episode today! What a time to be alive!
My brain is still in recovery mode from taking in all these high level important ideas
I am loving your work my friend keep it up