Was Hitler a Socialist?
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=Quotes=
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Gedanken über die Aufgaben der Zukunft - Gregor Strasser
(Also used in the Snopes article below)
9:32
The Nazi Movement - Theodore Abel
(Section III - 2 Hitler becomes the Leader)
15:36
Das industrialisierte Deutschland 1914 bis 1992 - Friedrich-Wilhelm Henning (p.146) (Animation done by @RobotBrush
16:42
Das industrialisierte Deutschland 1914 bis 1992 - Friedrich-Wilhelm Henning (p.147)
22:13
Against the mainstream: Nazi privatization in 1930s Germany - Germà Bel (Conclusion)
27:12
Doctors, Pregnancy, Childbirth and Abortion during the Third Reich - Tessa Chelouche MD
33: 14
Mein Kampf - Adolf Hitler
Chapter 2: Years Of Study And Suffering In Vienna
34:09
Hitler's Crusade: Bolshevism and the Myth of the International Jewish Conspiracy - Lorna Waddington (p. 8)
35:18
The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich: A History of Nazi Germany - William L. Shirer (p.77)
(Cited in the Snopes article below)
35:44
Hitler - Joachim C. Fest
(Cited in the Snopes article below)
36:40
Hitler: A Biography - Ian Kershaw
(Cited in the Snopes article below)
=Economy of Nazi Germany=
Das industrialisierte Deutschland 1914 bis 1992 - Friedrich-Wilhelm Henning
'Kanonen statt Butter': Wirtschaft und Konsum im Dritten Reich - Tim Schanetzky
Against the mainstream: Nazi privatization in 1930s Germany - Germà Bel (www.ub.edu/graap/nazi.pdf)
=The Autobahn Myth=
www.historytoday.com/uwe-oste... (paywall)
www.dw.com/en/the-myth-of-hit...
=Used Material by other Creators=
Video by Steven Crowder: • Yes, Hitler was a Libe...
Article: www.louderwithcrowder.com/myt...
Video featuring Ben Shapiro: • Ben Shapiro: Adolf Hit...
Ben Shapiros answer on Quora: www.quora.com/Why-do-you-beli...
Promotional material for "Death of a Nation" is taken from Dinesh D'Souzas twitter account: / dineshdsouza
=Additional material=
"The Socialists leave the NSDAP" - Otto Strasser (www.ns-archiv.de/nsdap/sozial...)
Kraft durch Freude:
de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kraft_d...
=For a rough overview on the topic=
Askhistorians thread: / were_nazis_socialists
www.snopes.com/news/2017/09/0...
www.snopes.com/fact-check/hit...
www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...
"[hitler] was radically pro abortion"
jesus what a weasley way to frame eugenics.
Also I see you visited the same snopes article I did when I made my video on this subject :P
I was thinking the same thing lol.
Hitler was pro abortion if you change the meaning of all of those words to intentionally mislead people. Theres a word for that that ive heard before but am drawing a complete blank on right now.
@A piece of fucking sliced white bread! Yes each word is technically correct by certain definitions, but in the context of our modern understanding of the terms the sentence as a whole is not. Its like a big game of telephone only instead of the words changing its the meanings. Crowder has changed "pro eugenics plans" to be "pro forced abortion for non-aryans" to then just "pro abortion".
No. A regime that outlawed abortion, set up a "Central Office for the Combating of Homosexuality and Abortion", and even went so far as to make it a capital offense cannot be considered "radically pro-abortion" as Crowder put it.
"The US was founded to protect the minority"
*Laughs in 80% of American history*
Yeah we are not apologetic about our country's history and that was one of the most blatant lies I've heard come out of his cesspool of a mouth
I think he meant the "Political Minority". Most of the time thats what people like him mean. In reality, the "political minority" was still fucked over, just not "officially"
found to protect the minority of the rich!
To be honest I can't even tell what kind of minority people are even thinking about. Political minority, group minority, race minority, religious minority and of what ?
@@emperorhirohito3965
Wealth minority.
"Nazis were socialists!" Tell a Neo-Nazi they're a socialist and see what happens.
hahahahahahh
Neo Nazis are about as common as Bigfoot and are not the same as the Marxists that controlled the German govt in WWII
@@hepwo91222 >Marxists
>WWII Germany
lol
Meanwhile, I'm in two different fb arguments with real deal white nationalists I encountered in the wild. Or bigfoots, as you call them.
@@awol.oper8r not sure one could fill a stadium with white supremacists in America in 2020, but we could fill cities with American hating indentitarian communists.
hepwo91222 are you for real ? You obviously don’t realise how many alt right members there are because there are a lot more than you seem to think
“It’s called the national SOCIALIST party!”
To anyone saying this I introduce you to the Democratic People’s Republic of North Korea
Or the DDR
god, people in 50 years are gonna be arguing that nk was democratic the whole time right
@@CEDEREL some already are
@@CEDEREL Have you seen Infrared? XD
@@miyukidawn9803 oh shit Dance Dance Revolution?
"Socialism is when the government does stuff, and the more stuff the government does, the more socialister it is."
-Karl Marx
And the more death is causes.
"Socialism is the science of dealing with the common weal. Communism is not Socialism. Marxism is not Socialism. The Marxians have stolen the term and confused its meaning. I shall take Socialism away from the Socialists.
Socialism is an ancient Aryan, Germanic institution. Our German ancestors held certain lands in common. They cultivated the idea of the common weal. Marxism has no right to disguise itself as socialism. Socialism, unlike Marxism, does not repudiate private property. Unlike Marxism, it involves no negation of personality, and unlike Marxism, it is patriotic."
- Adolph Hitler
Lane Funai,
You're putting a lot faith in the words of Hitler.
@@abegarfield3754 I think you're mixing up the Hilters here. The one you're referring too is Adolf Hitler, but Lane Funai is referring to his nephew: Adolph!
@@abegarfield3754 I have faith that he said that. And history proves that practiced socialism. What's your faith in?
Ahh, the Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea. My favorite Democracy.
You can vote in North Korea, you know!
There's just only one candidate and if you do anything else (write-in someone), it's off to Korean gulags with you.
@MB4237 Not just my favorite democracy...but my fave Democratic Republic...just edging out the USA
(because according to 'Make me change my concreted mind', democracies are fascist or is it socialist...no communist...oh God my head is spinning!
Wolf spiders. My favorite wolf.
Or Buffalo wings, my favourite wings. Or the Titmouse, my favourite rodent. IT'S IN THE NAME THOUGH!!1!
First Last Im just gonna assume you’re joking
Mmm yes remember that “unite the left” rally in Charlottesville? Wait...
Always funny how Rightoid Posterboys like Crowder manage to bend a full 360 degrees in regards to that. If the Nazis were leftist why do so many modern American right-wing Edgelords wave their flag? Why would American right-wingers use their symbols if the Nazis were actually leftist and the American right hates them? It makes no sense at all!
Wernher von Kerman bending a full 360 degrees puts you in the same position as before
Lars Frisk those evil leftists saying death to gay people, wait......
A Untie The Left rally could be even more deadly
George Lincoln Rockwell yeah because leftist know how to make Molotovs and pips bombs
“The Irish Republican Party are conservatives because they have the word Republican in them. Oh and the Liberal Party in Australia are left wing bc they say “Liberal”.” I am smart American.” -same argument of crowder
Lol so true
"The Irish Republican Party are conservatives because they have the word Republican in them"
That's not what the word republican means.
@@buntings that's the joke, man
@@buntings
The communist parties of China, Cambodia and Russia were communist because they had/have the word 'communist' in them. And because all 3 main leaders, Mao, Pol Pot and Stalin, were devout and committed communists. Well-read, intelligent and democidal Marxist-Leninists.
Crowder's politics are bad enough, but does he also have to be so aggressively, militantly unfunny?
Conservatives rarely understand how humor work. You should see his Kim Jon Um stand in calling Obama the n word.
@@RadTrashed Leftism has gone too far, I can't say slurs anymore
This guy literally got fired from Fox News for being too unfunny, yeah the network that ran the half hour news hour.
Durango Savage I seem to have found that pattern out.
“Comedians” that are conservative just want to piss off an audience.
Huh... that sounds pretty observant.
That's how conservative comedy works.
I’m reporting this video for making me listen to Steven Crowder for so long.
Especially that “German” accent 🤮
@@nightlydrugs6927 i kept repeating the video over and over
because of this accent
i swear i almost hit the dislike button instinctively at one point
@@nightlydrugs6927 what about the accent?
@@reudensplasher1659 Hes not talking about three arrow's accent. Hes talking about crowder's impersonation of Hitler.
I think
"Killing somebody because of their ethnicity is exactly the same as taking away money and power from rich people." Wow, great take there, Crowder.
ProfessorGrimm and y’all stole an anti communist movements symbol because you wanted diversify your symbolism. The iron front was against monarchism, nazism, and communism.
@@goforbroke4428 Stalinism, which many socialists, like those found in the iron front, opposed. You need to check out how the left responds to tankies malding whenever China does something, or when you bring up the Holodomor.
@@Vraptor1 I’m well aware of the pro Bolshevik crowd sees the Chinese and how they feel on holodomor. I mean the USSR did fight the Chinese along the Ussuri river and in the 30s.
@@Vraptor1 the old iron front seemed more like a moderate anti monarchist/fascist/communist group made up of the more liberal factions of german politics.
@@Vraptor1 the rift between the Bolsheviks and the Maoist’s is based more on which group of workers the respective countries paid heed to. Mao saw the rural peasantry as the group to organize and revolt. While the Bolsheviks saw the urban peasant/urban worker as the group to organize and revolt. The Soviet trained faction of the CCP wanted to follow the Bolshevik concept when Mao knew very well that it wouldn’t work in China. The Soviets and the Chinese have disdain for each mostly because Mao didn’t become a Soviet puppet.
Antlions have "lion" in their name and also have legs. Thus they are mammals.
They are also lions obviously
@@ruth078 A living dog is better, than a dead lion, though.
"Behold, I have brought you a man!"-Diogenes.
Yeah tbh all monsters are like Pokemons. Trust me it's in the name: Pocket Monsters.
I almost spit out my water when I saw Crowder called Hitler "pro-choice" because of his eugenics programs.
It must be because I'm a snowflake who can't handle LOGIC and FACTS
That's the situation I find myself in. I can't handle LOGIC and FACTS. They just don't care about my feelings.
ikr the second i heard him mention pro-choice i knew he was going to go down that road. these conservative guys like to play semantic games with the meanings of words, ignoring context in an attempt to deceive. it's really the beginnings of some scary orwellian shit going on.
So murdering unborn human beings is ok then... Got it.
Nazis bad. Murdering kids ok.
Thats not confusing in the least. TY.... o.O
@@shanelang3236 You're missing the point. It's irrelevant whether _you_ think inducing a miscarriage of an undeveloped fetus is the same as murder. Fact of the matter is Hitler utilized abortion specifically for social control to enforce his reactionary vision of a genetic hierarchy. He pushed it upon non-Aryans and people with "undesired" hereditary traits & outlawed it for those the Third Reich believed contributed to a "purified" Aryan race.
It's just a little funny that Crowder is trying so hard to draw nonexistent comparisons between Hitler's clear-cut right wing authoritarianism and modern liberalization of abortion that he literally calls THAT pro-choice.
Because hitler was undenably rightwing, extreme rightwing. Rightwingers using such an arument against the left is just waiting to be called out. And if it werent so silly and wrong, it could be funny.
Just because the Nazi stood for national socialist party or whatever is irrelevant. North Korea claims to be a democratic republic, that doesn't make it true.
Hitler supported many social programs like free healthcare and medicare. And controlled whole industry. Defenitely socialists
@EAM ELAS EPON No, I only replied to previous comment.
@ANTHONY COLE Hitler lead Bavarian NSDAP
@@jumpjimcrow6959 free healthcare and medicare had both already existed in some form during the german empire.
Even today Germans don't consider it "left" because it was implemented by a staunch anti-parlamentarian anti-left royalist, Otto von Bismarck, first german chancellor.
@@phonix6352 Yes but national socialists changed social programs in their way. Bismarck's programm and Hitler's programm weren't the same.
"Our adopted term socialism has nothing to do with Marxist socialism"
-Adolf Hitler
hitler also said that there wasnt much difference between the two. That difference being international marxism focus vs a national nazi focus. Hitler was 110 percent lefty, just not a marxist. He hated capitalism and thought it was created by jews to benefit jews. Read his book if you have to
Psssht! Facts! You'll confuse them
@Shwazara ok and? You can believe in a mixed economy and still be awful
@Shwazara It literally wpuldn't matter if Hitler did some things you (mistakenly) think are socialism. Because he still commited genocide - the economy has little to do with it.
@Shwazara Not really... Socialism is advocating for the means of production to be put into the hand of the workers.
Nazi Germany did nothing like that, absolutely the opposite. Reliable/regime loyal capitalists were rewarded with disowned companies from Jews and other enemies of the Nazi state, if they were not loyal, they ended up disowned themselves and one of the Nazi "Bonzen" got enriched by being made head of the new nationalized property.
There is nothing socialist in that policy.
They also were violently opposed to Unions and murdered union leaders before they created their own pseudo union to replace them, a Union that no longer represented worker's rights, but enforced loyalty to the State. Still not Socialist.
Calling the national-socialists "socialists" is like calling anarcho-capitalists "anarchists"
you really need to understand language. socialist means socialist, saying another strain of socialism is not socialism is incredibly stupid just like the failed oxymoron argument. they ultimately believe in the same things... "all power to the state" and regulated economies, anti capitalism. amongst others like planned parenthood.
@@createspaceone But Nazism is not a "strain" of Socialism in any way, shape or form. They literally adopted the name for publicity. Socialists do not believe in "all power to the state", all economies are regulated in one way or another (even the most capitalist countries), Nazis believed in capitalism and private property, and planned parenthood is an organization born in the USA, not a policy.
@@createspaceone
Well, yeah, arguing over definitions is for transphobes, but if you look at any socialist thinkers and philosophies non of it fits with nazi ideology except for the vague “government does stuff”.
If that’s your definition of socialism that basically every government in history is socialist.
@@createspaceone
Though you are correct that, as the video says, the nazis were not capitalist.
Correct. Anarcho Capitalists are anarchist so nazis are socialists.
It's like, physically difficult to listen to Steven Crowder to say this shit. This is going to be a hard watch.
I find myself skipping the bits of reactionary video and fast-forwarding to the debunking more and more. Probably because the reichwingers sound more and more like Goebbels by the day.
Same! I haven't heard of Crowder until now, but dear lord he is wince inducing.
It's that squeak in his voice. Still better than Paul Joseph Watson though.
This asshat uses the word "by definition" so much and I want to punch a dictionary through his face to teach him what that word means.
Cafelogis Honestly I would rather watch BPS, he actually sounds bearable (Not the content, but his voice).
That sigh at the beginning is the exact sound I made when I read “Steven Crowder”
I do this
ruclips.net/video/SMYgcS53Ezk/видео.html
Okoye's Wig You should watch him get destroyed by Alexa on the topic of communism and fascism.
The sad realization that a comedian knows more about a topic than you do can be hard to take. You wouldn't have to if you'd stop being wrong.
@@lanefunai4714 ´´comedian´´
Us leftists need to strike back. Gonna make a bunch of videos about how Stalin was actually a Reaganite
Lol
LMAO! Please do!
Fucking do it. I need that shit in my life, haha
Please, that would be great
Nah. Stop that nonsense. Reagan only listened to the holy Bible. it was some edition in mandarin. red cover with golden letters. had an exotic touch.
If the guy who systematically privatized Germany is a socialist, then I'm the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air.
@A Scam Involving Corndogs My reading of it was always that the Nazis had no real economic convinctions beyond power and what was the most expedient way to that power. Sometimes it was entertaining capitalism, sometimes it was nationalization. To frame then as having any real ideological economics stance is sort of unfair because their entire ideology was racial and economics was just a means to an end. To frame them as "anti capitalist" is like, sure, but only because every now and again the capitalists got in their way. If they were "Pure Aryan" and were party members, "Cool!" They were only concerned with achieving lebensraum.
One could argue the end goal of Nazism was complete nationalization of industry, but I'd argue they seriously didn't really think that shit through well enough to have a post-lebensraum society. I might have a blind spot in my knowledge tho.
Indeed, sometimes they would call Jewish people Capitalists, sometimes Communists. Nazis don't give a shit about hypocrisy.
@@jasonqhan8319
>To frame them as "anti capitalist" is like, sure, but only because every now and again the capitalists got in their way
No, they were fundamentally opposed to capitalism, because they saw it as egoistic, against the community.
@@MrCmon113 yeah dude and war is peace..maybe you still havent understand that hitler copied the earlier speeches and got rid of his socialist competation real fast. i know actions are hard to differentiate from words for some ppl, esp if it involves multiple parties
@@klauskinski5969
More like you still don't understand the difference between socialism and Marxism.
Also for a politician your words are part of your actions. Otherwise Hitler isn't to be blamed for the Holocaust either.
@@MrCmon113 yeah sure keep believing that shit
Oh boy, Steven loses the thread immediately.
"I know what you're going to say. NATIONAL Socialism, not DEMOCRATIC Socialism"
No, the thing I would say is "Just because you use a word doesn't make you that word, and it was very clearly just a branding effort because of the popularity of socialism at the time as a worker's movement, even though his beliefs and actions were incompatible with socialism in any form."
Steven has also said something to the effect of "The Democratic People's Republic of Korea is not Democratic or for the people just because it's in the name." And then calls Nazis socialists because it's in their name haha
Some right wingers just can't get the idea that it's not just a name that defines something but practices.
Exactly. Antifa stands for Anti-Fascist, it is right in the name, yet rightwingers are all freaking out because the Antifa people are the "real fascists." Jeebus these people are such self-serving hypocritical dipwads - if the argument suits them at the time, even if it contradicts some other point they made only a few seconds ago, they will make it.
Wasn't there a civil war in Germany immediately after WW1 involving tons of far left movements and far right freikorps and mercenaries fighting each other? Including the creation of a country that lasted a very brief time called the Bavarian Socialist Republic? The Nazi party rose out of the far right freikorps groups, and adopted the worker-friendly imagery of the far left to court more appeal for the lower class. To say that the far right and left who had just been fighting in the streets a decade earlier literally represent the same party in the NSDAP would seem a bit silly.
"I know what you're going to say!"
Translation: "Here's a straw position!"
Long answer : This Video
Short answer : *NO*
Short answer: No.
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Well... Hitler was proponent of big government and was essentially a collectivist and statist and so are socialists. I don't see much difference - fundamentally. But maybe someone here will enlighten me.
@@kruczyzmora2885
Thank you for being open minded about this.
Now, authoritarian governments are not an inherently socialist thing, despite what many americans believe. Socialism just requires collective ownership of industry, meaning everybody in a workplace is considered an owner of that workplace, unlike in capitalism where workplaces are owned and controlled by only a few bosses or shareholders. This doesn't require a strong state necessarily. There are in fact many socialists that identify as libertarians or anarchists, or who want a free market to distribute goods instead of a central govt body.
Some famous anti-authoritarian socialists include Noam Chomsky, Peter Kroptkin, Rosa Luxembourg and Nestor Makhno.
I wanted to clear this up. Being pro-authority doesn't mean you're pro-socialism, and vice versa.
If that were the case, chilean dictator Augusto Pinochet would be a socialist, and he was an outspoken anti-communist who shaped his countries after neoliberal super-capitalist principles.
Hitler also had a lot of negative things to say about the economics of the left in his book "Mein Kampf". Chapter 2 was literally about how marxism, the economic framework that birthed socialism, is a jewish plot to destroy the world and ignores fundamental parts of humanity.
In the same chapter he talked about how social democrats are manipulative crooks with an ideology not grounded in reality.
And as this video explained, the nazis did have a bunch of socialists in their party before they came to power, but they were purged in the "night of the long knifes".
The nazis were opposed to socialism AND the free market, since they thought both were a threat to their nationalist culture, so what they settled on was an authoritarian state capitalist/corporatist economy.
The other vids by this youtuber explained that a bit further.
The nazis were not socialist just because they were authoritarians, or because they had "socialist" in their name. That was merely a misnomer.
I think it's very good people like you are willing to learn.
Thank you for listening. 👍🏼
@@frocco7125 It was kind of you to answer this person but sadly it looks like he/she was not really into a long and lenghty argument. Do know that I liked your response.
You got a (red) star for kindness
Short answer: Nazis were socialist/communist with some capitalism sprinkled in.
Germany was mostly ruled by a conservative party after WWII, and still "Rechts" (right wing) is a bad word in Germany. When some one is called right wing in Germany, they literally call him a Nazi.
You people in the US don't understand that right wing doesn't mean "small government".
THANK YOU
i swear to god, even highly educated people seem to fail to understand this. the different between right and left isn’t small gov vs. big gov, it’s hierarchy vs. no hierarchy.
I think the political compass is the best way to plot political standpoints
@@quanicle101 hierarchy is more based in capitalism and the right-wing embrace of capitalism. There is no racial component to capitalist hierarchy. All the major capitalist philosophers were in support of both hierarchy, freedom and abolition.
@@quanicle101 It's way more complex than that.
Right wing is mir about rage or nationalist interests.
Left wings are/were more about class and social justice for the working class.
Saying they are opposed on the spectrum would be wrong, they can even be combined.
I mean, the social party in Denmark is shame immigration, but for social care.
...
Sorry
@@radschele1815 none of that contradicts what i said
Every german 9th grader knows more about these topics then Steven Crowder with his millions of views
Ist einfach so. Typisch amerikaner, ohne Spaß.
That’s why they hate our "nazi" socialist free education system.
*”Socialism is the science of dealing with the weal. Communism is not socialism. Marxism is not socialism. The Marxians have stolen the term and confused its meaning. I shall take socialism away from the socialists.*
*Socialism is an ancient Aryan, Germanic institution. Or German ancestors held certain lands in common. They cultivated the idea of the common weal. Marxism has no right to disguise itself as socialism. Socialism, unlike Marxism, does not repudiate private property. Unlike Marxism, it involves no negation of personality, and unlike Marxism, it is patriotic.”* -ADOLF HITLER
*Hitlers Zweites Buch* - Author, ADOLF HITLER.
*Page 50. “I am a socialist.”*
@@legitimatelypissedoff4409 Not only is that an unreleased manuscript, but also, as the Video here points out, is it completely irrelevant. The Nazis werent socialists, even if they called themselves that, nor is the democratic peoples republic of north korea democratic.
This video has been needed for a long time. Thank you.
I love your channel big fan
It shouldn't have been needed at all, noone should need a video like this to realise that the Nazi's wasn't left wing, socialist or liberals. Nor do I really think it's needed, I know people believe really really really crazy things, but I don't for second believe that anyone are truely confused as to wether the Nazi's where right wing or not.
The fact that a video like this is actually needed is truly sad.
It’s so cool seeing you on this channel
Is Cody, a closeted conservative?
"Is educating people left-wing? I don't know. You tell me" ... that's a pretty sick burn, Three Arrows
The right wing were book burners.
The left is now a group of book burners.
@@siemino7444 everyone becomes a book burner when the books are against them.
@@lukamilosevic661 I'm genuinely surprised i got a reasonable answer on a far left channel, as for the books, good point
@@siemino7444 yeah i'm pretty much moderate, a bit hanging to the left a bit to the right on several issues. I just hang around this guy's videos because I kinda like them as videos
@@siemino7444 Leftists are intellectuals, right-wingers are anti-intellectuals
Leftists want to look back on history through different lenses and become unbiased
Right-wingers want to keep it as they are not have any doubt on the events of history
"Democracy is Mob Rule"
Crowder with the mask-off moment right out the gate
Also a very weird argument for him to make as he produces MOB entertainment.
Or has the realization begun to set in, that the rabble is NOT a majority, silent or loud?
I laughed when Crowder tried to imply that democracies and democratic republics are mutually exclusive
Democracy is mob rule.
As a Swiss, I am quite surprised to learn that I am ruled by a mob
@@Angrenost02 What do you think a "mob" is? We're not talking about an Italian mafia. It means the populace. In direct democracy the people hold all the power and majority rules always. It's not that hard to comprehend.
“Being flat out wrong mixed with smugness” is American right wing politics in a nutshell.
in general the politics in america are fucked; both sides are spewing bs to get points they over exaggerate points to the point where no one can be even trusted at the end politics is just rich people lying to us
And being flat out wrong mixed with stupidity is the left wing politics in a nutshell.
@@idenree8606 being uncreative, right wing insults in a nutshell.
@@cuber3603 being an annoying bunch of screamy kids , left wing in a nutshell.
Is that good for you or do you think I can do better ?
@Pp fopaexcept that they're not you moron, an annoying screamy kid is the stereotypical left winger not the right winger, you moron , like you , you repeated the same thing without adding anything new , just like a child.
And also , collecting my internet points ?
Next up: was Karl Marx a libertarian?
That is honestly hard to say.
While he wanted a collective economy, his ideal society was one in which did not require a leader or centralized government, as the government would have been the community. If everyone acts upon their purpose to the society there would have been no need for a leader.
Communism, in its foundation, is a very anarchic principal. Well, actually the main end goal is very similar to anarchists, which is a stateless society. While anarchists (the level about Libertarians) want to disable the boundaries immediately, Marxist Communist is a gradual transition into a stateless society.
I do not know where Lenin, Stalin, and the Chinese got the central leader from.
What this shows is that the political spectrum is very complex.
Right wing youtube: The left calls everyone nazis
Right wing youtube: The left are nazis
Right wing youtube: Today I'm bringing on my good friend of mine, he's got some good ideas that I want to share, he's an ethnonationalist and a good christian race realist, a real truer he is.
The friend:Ja ze Nazi germany was ein wünderbar nation
Why is "liberal" and "leftist" the same thing, according to Crowder?
Because he’s an idiot
@@brandonk.4864 Or an American because political labels there are completely fluid
because he has to obfuscate the terms so his audience remains politically illiterate so they fall for his bullshit.
because he's a U.S. republican - and in his audience's mindset there are two things you can be: a Republican White Supremacist or.... literally anything else - and literally anything else therefore is to be used interchangably with a slur
@@terawatt1 Are you calling all Republicans white supremacists? If so, what is your proof?
The second Steven said “Hitler” and “Bernie Sanders” in the same sentence, I lost iq points.
I don't remember Bernie being anti-LGBT and anti-semantic like Hitler
@@mattwong5403 isn’t Bernie himself Jewish?
I think Steven was talking about economic policies if you actually watched the show the clip is from. Remember Bernie talking about bread lines being a good thing. The last time the US had breadlines was the great depression which lasted from 1929 to 1940
@@Leoluvesadmira Bernie never said breadlines were a good thing. Stop spreading lies.
he is saying their beliefs and ideology is the same which it is. its hilarious to this day the left still tries to make out hitler was a capitalist its fucking braindead beyond.
>Is educating people left wing?
I know this is a ironic/rhethoric question but at this point...
anti-intellectualism has been a big thing in the far right for a long time.
Extreme ideologues of all stripes like their easy answers. Learning slowly teaches you that easy answers don't exist. That is as great a threat to the ideologue as their strawmen and scapegoats... therefore it must be one of the conspiratorial tools to harm the one true ideology.
@A piece of fucking sliced white bread! MFW people actually think this is true.
@A piece of fucking sliced white bread! Try spelling the word intellectual again please, the irony!
"Some ideas are so stupid only an intelectual could believe them" is a quote that idiots use to justify why experts in a field think they're fucking morons
Kitty Werthmann also claimed that Austria's healthcare system, before Hitler, was privately insured even thought it is widely known(as you state here) that the Habsburg empire introduced public health insurance in 1888.
She also claimed that Hitler introduced the "equal rights amendment"(I am not joking) that gave equal rights to women. The truth is that the National Socialists actively discouraged women from pursuing careers, kicking thousands out of the civil service etc. She also claimed that everyone was paid the same....even thought the stats show that income inequality grew under Nazi policies..
At least he opened up many new jobs! I wonder how he did that... /s
Yeah it’s almost as if the US right and its mercenaries use more bad faith than good, and it works too because their core audience has read like 3 books and has microwaved brain syndrome.
In the months after Hitler took power, SA and *Gestapo agents went from door to door looking for Hitler’s enemies. They arrested Socialists, Communists, trade union leaders, and others who had spoken out against the Nazi party* some were murdered. By the summer of 1933, the Nazi party was the only legal political party in Germany. Nearly all organized opposition to the regime had been eliminated. Democracy was dead in Germany.
*However, the assumption that because the word “socialist” appeared in the party’s name and socialist words and ideas popped up in the writings and speeches of top Nazis then the Nazis must have been actual socialists is naive and ahistorical. What the evidence shows, on the contrary, is that Nazi Party leaders paid mere lip service to socialist ideals on the way to achieving their one true goal: raw, right-wing totalitarian power*
Yes, the Nazis were indisputably Right-Wing
Sometimes the claim is bandied about that the Nazis were a left-wing party on economic questions, perhaps because the Nazis were called “National socialists”. This is flatly and completely wrong and a form of pseudo-historiography. Here’s why:
The Nazi party was built on right-wing voters and a right-wing support base:
There are many disputes about the nature of Hitler’s voting base. What isn’t under dispute though is that prior to voting Nazi, Nazi voters voted for centre-right and far-right parties, or didn’t vote at all. Support for the Nazis did not come from disaffected left-wing or centre-left voters, but from right-wing voters frustrated with the existing parties of the right.
In my view this point alone is decisive. The meaning of right-wing and left-wing is not an ahistorical abstraction, it’s created by the behaviour of people and institutions. The right-wing citizens of Germany implicitly recognised the Nazis as right-wing by voting for them, case closed.
Read more about which parties Nazi voters defected from here: gking.harvard.edu/files/gking/files/nazivp.pdf
2. The Nazis literally invented privatisation:
The Nazis were responsible for huge privatisation programs. The extent of their privatisations was enormous, but it was particularly vast when compared with other countries at the time, who were generally moving in the opposite direction. The privatisations of Nazi Germany may indeed have been the first mass privatisations of public property in history and included “Steel, mining, banking, shipyard, ship-lines, and railways.” More on how Nazis bucked historical trends by privatising when no one else was here: www.ub.edu/graap/nazi.pdf
3. Nazi policies greatly increased income inequality:
Income inequality spiked under Hitler, as was observed even at the time. More here: piketty.pse.ens.fr/files/capitalisback/CountryData/Germany/Other/Pre1950Series/RefsHistoricalGermanAccounts/Sweezy39.pdf
4. Capital as a share of factor income also spiked under Hitler, at the expense of wages:
Factor income describes the division between the factors of production, with land receiving rent, capital receiving profit and labour receiving wages. The capital share, or profit as a proportion of total income, increased by about 50% in Nazi Germany and was much higher than the US’s capital share at the time. See the below graph from Capital in the Twenty-First Century reproduced in a Jacobin article by Corey Robin:
I’m sorry if there’s not much in the way of Belles-lettres here. If I am blunt it is for a purpose. The Nazis were right-wing. Anyone who tells you otherwise is wrong, much in the same way it is wrong to say that the world is flat, six-thousand years old, or made of cheese.
DemocraticSocialist01 hey I really enjoyed your videos
@@Counter-Intuitive you're not exactly right in part 2. Italian fascists privatized insurance companies, telephone services, and trains before nazis but nazis did first used the term "privatization". Also, they did more of it as they were much more advanced than the Italian economy.
My favorite argument was when Dave Rubin claimed Hitler was a liberal because he was vegetarian
Lmao, that’s a new one
Dave Rubin will say anything for money (think Candace Owens) and is very empty
Wow that’s hilarious! Dave Rubin pisses me off though. He’s a complete & utter traitor to the LGBT+ community & eventually he’s going to learn that there are no “good ones” in the eyes of fascists
I try not to make sweeping generalizations, but: if a person likes Crowder... I am forced to assume they are not a serious person, and are easily swayed by bluster. Doubly so, if they like Shapiro, too.
seahorses are actually horses everyone
I mean crowder actually did bother having an argument, a bad argument but still
Cat's eyes in the road are actually made of cat's eyes.
pot holes are full of pot (@cops it's jokes)
Starfish are neither stars nor fish... Discuss
bees are actually letters
The reason the Nazis made kindergarten and school free to use was not because they were socialists. The reason was that it allowed them to hit two birds with one stone: the parents could continue to work - and they'd have the children from their youngest age to indoctrinate them with Nazi ideology, teach them all the necessary skills and knowledge to contribute to advancement of the Arian race, and pick the best candidates for the next generation of Nazi leadership.
Indoctrinate? Are you saying that because they're "Nazis"?
Lots of people drop off their kids on daycare in USA, does that mean the daycare indoctrinates them into left wing ideology?
@@omega0195 daycare in the US isn't a public service, and a daycare would get sued into the ground if it taught leftist philosophy to toddlers
@@mace1312 you don't think we have public schools in America?
@@getschwiftysuperschwifty3282 no I know we have public schools, but daycare for babies and toddlers are a different private business, even if school can act like daycare.
@@omega0195 The mere presence of public schools does not automatically make them tools for indoctrination. Whether the US system specifically is an indoctrination tool or not is up for discussion, but that comes from how the system is used, not the mere fact that the system exists. An education system is a hammer, it can be used to build or destroy, and *anyone* can use it for either purpose. If all schools were privatized, that would not prevent the owners from instilling their own agenda into the students.
“Is educating people left wing?”
Well it sure as shit isn’t being embraced by the right
No, it's just that the left wing has morphed education into brainwashing
Certainly not evidenced in your vocabulary. Good point.
@@disgusted3191there is a huge difference between something extremely minor & inconsequential like someone’s vocabulary (which isn’t a problem in this person’s comment at all) & the way right wingers embrace anti-intellectualism like their second religion. The latter is actually harmful to society & comes from an abysmal stupidity inherent in right wing politics
Thank you for this video. Every time I see someone arguing that Hitler was a socialist I can feel my braincells commiting suicide. It just hurts so much...
*”Socialism is the science of dealing with the weal. Communism is not socialism. Marxism is not socialism. The Marxians have stolen the term and confused its meaning. I shall take socialism away from the socialists.*
*Socialism is an ancient Aryan, Germanic institution. Or German ancestors held certain lands in common. They cultivated the idea of the common weal. Marxism has no right to disguise itself as socialism. Socialism, unlike Marxism, does not repudiate private property. Unlike Marxism, it involves no negation of personality, and unlike Marxism, it is patriotic.”* -ADOLF HITLER
*Hitlers Zweites Buch* - Author, ADOLF HITLER.
*Page 50. “I am a socialist.”*
Hitler told Otto Wagener: ‘What Marxism, Leninism and Stalinism failed to accomplish, we shall be in a position to achieve.’ He told Hermann Rauschning: ‘I have learned a great deal from Marxism, as I do not hesitate to admit.’ He added: “I have put into practice what these peddlers and pen pushers have timidly begun. The whole of National Socialism is based on it.’Why’, I asked Hitler, ‘do you call yourself a National Socialist, since your party program is the very anthesis of that commonly accredited to Socialism?’
‘Socialism’, he retorted, putting down his cup of tea, ‘is the science of dealing with the common weal [health or well-being]. Communism is not Socialism. Marxism is not Socialism. The Marxians have stolen the term and confused its meaning. I shall take Socialism away from the Socialists.
‘Socialism is an ancient Aryan, Germanic institution. Our German ancestors held certain lands in common. They cultivated the idea of the common weal. Marxism has no right to disguise itself as socialism. Socialism, unlike Marxism, does not repudiate private property. Unlike Marxism, it involves no negation of personality and, unlike Marxism, it is patriotic.
‘We might have called ourselves the Liberal Party. We chose to call ourselves the National Socialists. We are not internationalists. Our Socialism is national. We demand the fulfilment of the just claims of the productive classes by the State on the basis of race solidarity. To us, State and race are one…
"North Korea is a democracy because it's actually called Democratic People's Republic of Korea"
-conservative logician
Be careful... Donnie Drumpf wants to build a relationship with North Korea! They might decide your absurdism isnt very absurd.
North korea is a democracy though
It's really not...
Ha! that exactly what I think of the left in the USA "left"
Chris G "If you're against Antifa you're a fascist." -Liberal progressive logician
"Is educating people left-wing? I don't know, you tell me."
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@Matthew Stewart what? so if anything has systematic orders it is socialism? so... that means every ai is a socialist.
@Matthew Stewart i was commenting the syllogism fallacy i see here and also as a additon to it showed the comments lacking definition of system and weird conclusion of system here as reductive and downright. presumptious. beacuse it assumes without proving that education becomes left leaning beacuse of its system, rather then by acknowledging the possibility that people aquiring alot of knowledge becomes left leaning due to their knowledge or by the mentality that comes becuse of aquiring alot of knowledge. (or by studying alot, whatever term you wanna use for the activites concerning those considerd educated)
socialist to set up a system? every political ideologi is the idea of setting up a system of the distribution of power. even if education was so anarchistic to say "read whatever" that in its self is a system of education. you even use "mentorship system" a SYSTEM. also, alexander the great? taught under aristoteles, who himself was taught under platos school, or "academy" and aristoteles open a school himself beacuse of the recommendation of alexander. so your great general also liked systems, his mentor taught under a system.
system isnt bad or political, it is just a descriptive word, not a euphemism for socialist or do you say you think alexander the great was a socialist?
and before you say "i said systemic instruction not systems" setting up a system is instructing on how something should work so "systemic instruction" is just redundant use of words or in this case framing it as pedantic, "too controling", as "socialism"
since you are suggesting i am reasoning here why that suggestion does not work. or why considering "systems" belongs to a specific party shows more personal opinion of said word rather than it being politcal partisan. althought systems can be biased but that is then the construction of said system to be so rather than the existance of a system. so what you should argue is that the educational system of whatever country you are using as template is socialistic, not that a system exist therefore it is socialistic.
edit: if you mean system in its more socialily used meaning rarther than the definitial use of the word, remember internet around the globe. the social use of a word is more situational and therefore easily to misinteprate. especially where there isnt a defined group. specify it if so.
@Matthew Stewart so you dont respect me, and calls me a conformist when you cant read the comment pointing out your lack of nuance. i was trying to point out how limiting your comparison was and that you should consider other possibilties, they were not suggestions to a point. but if this is the road you wanna go down, then tread it alone, i do not join insult wars. they bring nothing to fruition i care for.
No educating people is not left-wing, but indoctrinating people sure is. Spreading hate is in US of America very left-wing.
Indoctrinating people is left wing.
Gotta say, as a brazillian, I'm very happy to see Three Arrows often using the Brazillian Military Dicatorship as an example of right-wing dictatorship. The world (many brazillians included) seem to forget the awful dictatorships enacted in Latin America during the Cold War.
For all the people screaming and crying in the comments about how Hitler was actually a socialist... You either didn’t watch the video or need some brain cells.
I didn’t just blindly listen to a RUclips video with no links or references?! Oh golly g I muss be a dum dum 🤠
@@brettdowney44 And which one was that? It can’t be this one because the sources are linked in the description.
@@brettdowney44reqd the goddamn description
@@brettdowney44 hey Brett, how does it feel to be a "dum dum 🤠"?
the entire history of NSDAP and Hitler shows you he was the clear opposite of a socialist. greetings from germany.
..Or the video is garbage. I mean to be fair, that is a third possibility.
"He was heavily influnced by Marx"... Um yes Ben, he was, he was heavily influenced by it in the opposite way. He literally called it a threat to the level it'd wipe out humanity.
Pretty much everyone alive has been heavily influenced by Marx so it’s not a meaningful claim anyway.
That is influence in a way.
@@metallipwn I mean true, but he tries to make it sound like Hitler was a marxist, when he literally said it was going to bring about human extinction if not stopped. It's was just a bit of a dishonest attempt by Three Arrows to associate.
And i'm so sick of the left calling the right Fascist nazis, and the right calling the left fascist nazis. And then even worse people thinking national socialism was the same thing as communism.
Best way to explain it, would be, social programs designed to promote the health and prosperity of the nation vs, trying to fuck everything up so every one is so broken down and dependent on the state to maintain power while laughing all the way to the bank the prols now longer get to go to, because money is bad except for the rich people who still have it.
Don't get wrong, I still think long term even national socialism would create problems because of the socialized incentive programs, a had it not get murdered out of existence. And wouldn't really want to see a long term implementation of this system, although can see it's utility in a short term course correction for a country.
TheJadeFist Crowder claimed that Hitler was heavily influenced by Marx, which is true but also distorted here to make it seem as if he was pro-Marx.
Since even Steven Crowder is heavily influenced by Marxism without even realizing it (everyone is) that statement in and of itself is meaningless. Holocaust survivors were heavily influenced by the Holocaust, doesn’t mean they like it.
Better be careful about going after Crowder, he might challenge you to a debate and then chicken out at the last minute
Don't forget he'll also say you we're the one who chickens out lol.
@@juannegrete2348 if he actually does start losing a debate he'll start telling his opponent you're speaking in paragraphs, and not let you finish making your point like he tried doing against Joe rogan and a college kid named yusef.
27:57 How that a joke tho? The republicoons were for the abolition of slavery and the democrats LITERALLY CREATED the KKK. Abe Lincoln was republican homeboy.
Vincent P I hope you’re a troll. You’re either a very bad troll, or your really stupid.
@@TheFourthWall14 that's because the old conservatives slave owners who called themselves Democrats switch party and now called themselves Republicans. They are still the same conservatives losers of the civil war. Read a history book and educate yourself.
This is a debate still happening in Brazil. A good ammount of people here think Nazism is a leftist ideology.
@trainbomb Yes, it's the Christian fundamentalists.
Credit to Brotlowsky rgeg for this:
I don't understand all of these people that say: "I like Crowder's stuff on politics and social issues, but he's wrong about sience." I remember his video called "Yes, Hitler was a liberal socialist...". And as a German I can attest to you, that our Neo-Nazis (and definetly the original Nazis) would strongly disagree with such a statement. His arguments indicate a profound lack of understanding on just about anything and show how he simply projects ideas he doens't agree with on the Nazis in order to discredit them. Here are few examples:
Hitler introduced universal healthcare and build up the german welfare state
No he didn't. Bismarck did that under Kaiser Wilhelm. Kaiser Wilhelm the first mind you, the one that died in 1888. So this system actually predates Hitler's own birth.
"Hitler was radically pro abortion"
This is such a gross missunderstanding of the actual goals of nazi social policies, that I don't even know what to say except that the exact opposite is true. "Arian" mothers with four children or more were celebrated as heros and even awarded with medals for fucks sake.
Hitler introduced gun control
He actually made guns much more accesible for the general population. How does Crowder think the whole "rearmament" thing went along? German gun control laws were first introduced after WW1 in order to fulfill the conditions of the Treaty of Versailles - the treaty that the Nazis were so vehemntly opposed to.
Do I need to go on? His arguments clearly show that he is absolutely clueless about both history and politics and just makes stuff up that fits his narrative.
His narrative in this case basically amounts to: Democratic Socialism = Socialism (or Communism or whatever) = National Socialism, therefore Bernie Sanders = Hitler.
Clearly very solid arguments. Irrefutable.
Aber mal im Ernst, was geht eigentlich ab bei den Amerikanern dass sie plötzlich behaupten, dass die Nazis linke waren? 13 Jährige in Deutschland wissen mehr darüber.
There is no such thing as a liberal socialist. Liberals believe in the rights of man and protecting the individual is paramount. Socialists believe society is paramount and man must be transformed into one that provides for the public. If takes busting his head a few times and getting rid of those not with the program so be it for the glory of society. Socialism seeks to socialize the people that is transform man from private interest to public interest first. That is why they call it socialism. That is exactly what Hitler claimed he was trying to do socialize the people on tribe to put society first.
@@anonymousdontbotheraboutit2895 modern liberalism is a kind of liberalism that condones a social market economy within an individualist economy and the growth of civil and political rights
As such, the common good is viewed as comparable, even harmonious, with the freedom of individual
Now modern liberals can be economically conservative or economically progressive(though not anticapitalist)
On the other hand, socialism is about collective ownership of the means of production
The distinction between liberalism and leftism/socialism is similar to the difference between social democracy (which is capitalist with some socialist undertones) and democratic socialism (socialist)
Dude this has been getting on my nerves so much lately. Ignorance will never fail to amaze.
Just lately? It's been doing my head in for years-some Americans never cease to amaze me in their either willful ignorance or their willingness to say anything to make a dollar. Unfortunately here in the uk has some of the same problems
Sad, but true.
@Clifford your big red God its a MOSTLY American problem which has spilled over-that better for ya sport?
@@teethgrinder83 I've encountered this argument on german social media too.
@@ConstantinKlose-sj4mb that's depressing-so much for the Internet enlightening people I guess
Steven Crowder's German impression might be the most infuriating thing on this earth.
As a german, I genuinely took offense to that. For... more than one reason
@@americantoastman7296 same. Though I am German myself I don't have strong connections to our culture but GOD I want to slap that man with a Weißwurst so badly
Wait till you see his Chinese impression, aka. him doing essentially blackface but for Chinese people.
"Infuriating" is absolutely correct. I've never taken offense in a German impression but holy shit, that fucker got my blood boiling.
Oh God grow some balls
„Our adopted term 'Socialist' has nothing to do with Marxian Socialism.“ - Adolf Hitler
as a german who didnt sleep in every history class, i couldnt believe someone could think hitler was socialist in any way
Ich hatte einen Kollegen, der mir das gesagt hatte. 😳 bzw, er meinte, Hitler wäre Kommunist gewesen.
In Ostdeutschland 😬
You don't need to avoid sleeping in history in the US, they just don't really teach this there it seems.
@@radschele1815 ossis sind manchmal echt crazy delusional xd
*”Socialism is the science of dealing with the weal. Communism is not socialism. Marxism is not socialism. The Marxians have stolen the term and confused its meaning. I shall take socialism away from the socialists.*
*Socialism is an ancient Aryan, Germanic institution. Or German ancestors held certain lands in common. They cultivated the idea of the common weal. Marxism has no right to disguise itself as socialism. Socialism, unlike Marxism, does not repudiate private property. Unlike Marxism, it involves no negation of personality, and unlike Marxism, it is patriotic.”* -ADOLF HITLER
*Hitlers Zweites Buch* - Author, ADOLF HITLER.
*Page 50. “I am a socialist.”*
A German who didn’t sleep in history class huh? Guess you just weren’t smart enough to remember any of it then.
@@legitimatelypissedoff4409 ye cause we read hitlers books in history class xd. i do not define a persons believes after what they say but after what they do. you quoting this already implies a certain political perspective
Even in the context of debunking his "arguments" I can't hearing Crowder's stupidity
I'm going to have to watch this video in intervals
For bonus points: Try his global warming videos
May I recommend copious amounts of alcohol?
Though you will need to hit the harder stuff.
next up on Steven Crowders channel: "Cleopatra was a libertarian capitalist and here is why"
I doubt the Ancient Egyptians were political at all
Libertarians are capitalists... Im a libertarian that believes in and knows the value of Capitalism
@@Pink_pr1ncess
What on earth do you think is and isnt political?
@@frankie1597
No?
Libertarians can be either socialist or capitalist
@@gunjfur8633 it was originally a leftist ideology until right wingers stole the term
The video was so much more than simply “Tim Crowder is an ignoramus”. This took me down quite a long path of learning about German history, ww2 perspectives, economic terminology, comparison of political ideology, anti-semitism, and US conservatism.
Thank you for your insights and for furthering our understanding of how media personalities like Crowder and Shapiro keep trying to influence rather than teach us.
Lol did you get Steven Crowder mixed up with Tim Pool? Can't blame you
Hitler told Otto Wagener: ‘What Marxism, Leninism and Stalinism failed to accomplish, we shall be in a position to achieve.’ He told Hermann Rauschning: ‘I have learned a great deal from Marxism, as I do not hesitate to admit.’ He added: “I have put into practice what these peddlers and pen pushers have timidly begun. The whole of National Socialism is based on it.’Why’, I asked Hitler, ‘do you call yourself a National Socialist, since your party program is the very anthesis of that commonly accredited to Socialism?’
‘Socialism’, he retorted, putting down his cup of tea, ‘is the science of dealing with the common weal [health or well-being]. Communism is not Socialism. Marxism is not Socialism. The Marxians have stolen the term and confused its meaning. I shall take Socialism away from the Socialists.
‘Socialism is an ancient Aryan, Germanic institution. Our German ancestors held certain lands in common. They cultivated the idea of the common weal. Marxism has no right to disguise itself as socialism. Socialism, unlike Marxism, does not repudiate private property. Unlike Marxism, it involves no negation of personality and, unlike Marxism, it is patriotic.
‘We might have called ourselves the Liberal Party. We chose to call ourselves the National Socialists. We are not internationalists. Our Socialism is national. We demand the fulfilment of the just claims of the productive classes by the State on the basis of race solidarity. To us, State and race are one…
Now this is a good comment. You didn't just insult someone or imply they're an idiot. You actually used historical record to prove your point. If you look at the comments of one side of this, and then look at those of the other, I think one has to ask themselves which side of this is more credible. You pretty much killed it with this my man, well done. Way to put fact and history before Ideology! @@Jimmy-sz5wd
@@KungFuHonky thank you
About 27:00: The "Hitler was pro-choice" thing is most ridiculous. He was anti abortion when it came to "Aryan" Germans and _enforcingly_ pro- abortion when it came to members of the subjected peoples he considered inferior.
Exactly, being pro choice is not the same as being pro eugenics
Some of their ideas are a bit too hard to push openly on the german population. I think the NSDAP figured out that ordinary germans would start going apeshit if they knew the NSDAP wanted to euthanize their own babies. Better to hide it under "birth complications" or something when it happened.
I'd like to tell all the righturds that think nazism is leftist ideology, to approach a neonazi gang and call them communists.
I'll make sure to send your families my respects.
It's to the point that they cannot tell an elephant from a mouse. We are authoritative in nature but that does not make us the same. It's almost like a war was started over the difference in ideology but I cant put my finger on it
@MajorLeague Nazism and fascism are fundamentally corporatist ideologies.
@@thevisitor135 we would argue against fascism being corporatism in its purest on paper form but in practice yeah Italy and nazi Germany made quite a few people rich
It’s neither right nor left. It embodies elements of both. Why is that so hard to swallow?
@@johnsinclair6170 Yeah, that's basically corporatism, which is a third-positionist alternative to socialism and free-market capitalism and has been utilized by regimes ranging from Juan Perón in Argentina and Benito Mussolini in Italy to Francisco Franco Bahamonde in Spain and even Franklin Delano Roosevelt during his New Deal in America.
2:01
"That's because 'democracy' is mob rule."
...said Benito Mussolini. Seriously. Denouncing popular democracy as "mob rule" was one of the primary arguments put forth in the Doctrine of Fascism. This is a fascist talking point and if you ever hear anyone using it you should point this fact out to them.
Saying that "national socialists" are socialist because of the name is the same as saying that North Korea is democratic because it has "democratic" in its name. It's just stupid.
Not because of the name, because of their views and policies.
@@TheSm1thers Idk man, north korea doesn't seem too democratic in wiews and policies either.
@SirBojo4 That's just like western propaganda man
North Korea was a democracy. Once. After commies were declared winners in 1948 it become a communist monarchy (more or less).
@@TheSm1thers idk man, western propaganda, eastern propaganda, it's all chinese stuff to me
Every time I hear someone say "The United States isn't a democracy" I feel my brain cells commit suicide. A republic is a form of democracy.
I swear to God, American Republicans are just so brainwashed and easy to manipulate. They will believe anything they are told without even taking a second to think about the meaning of the words they are saying. So many of them talk about how America is a Republic and not a democracy and I always wonder what they think those words mean? I mean, if we use Crowder's vague description of a democracy as "mob rule", then there are no democracies on Earth right now.
I mean to be fair as a socialist I agree that the United States isn’t a democracy in the sense that it is a system where the common person’s will is generally unheard by design and power functionally rests in the hands of a very few. The difference is just that we think that’s bad and Crowder thinks that’s good ☠️
No it is not.. “democracy” is an idea, not a form of government. The United States is a Constitutional Republic…
Every time I hear some leftist moron say otherwise, I lose brain cells.
@@legitimatelypissedoff4409 do you vote?
@@shadowscale799 loaded question and false comparison fallacy.
That’s not what democracy is when practiced properly at its true form. Electing officials to represent the people is not “democracy.”
In a true “democracy” it’s majority rule. The majority always holds the power in a “democracy”.
In a constitutional republic, the people evenly elect officials to represent them and their state in local and federal levels ensuring that each state and all people’s therein have equal rights, representation, and power at all levels of governing power. It has checks and balances at every level to ensure that the majority or “democracy” never holds full power.. it was designed this way on purpose..
Just the imbecilic question “dO yOu vOtE?!” Shows me how little you actually know about our system of government because you ACTUALLY thought your question was a “gotcha!” moment..
Edify yourself please.
My brain is melting and Crowder has only been speaking for 20 seconds the leaps in logic and just like wtf is he talking about.
like i always say, you don't need to drink a glass of piss to know that it is piss.... just the smell should be enough information; crowder's rhetoric smells like sewer.
When he says "In my opinion, it's quite embarrassing for him" in that polite German accent it is somehow the most savage drag I've ever heard
Embarassed for 3 Arrows, they want to be right, but sadly the Nazis were socialists that leaned heavier on socialism/communism with remnants of capitalism in a mixed economy. By any modern metric they were left wing secular authoritarians.
@Gabriel Victor actual history. Never heard of Volkswagen? "Peoples' Car" ? Nazi Party invented it and it was part of the auto/manufacturing/defense industry. Nazi Party was mixed economy but leaned heavier towards socialism/communism as the name does spell out, but still had capitalism, probably would have less capitalism if the Nazi party lasted longer in Germany.
@@hepwo91222 Capitalist autarky and fascist corporatism do not a socialist economy make
@@Eastcyning socialism/communism by nature is fascistic. Also, yes, as long as this video is, its still disingenous, the Nazis were part of a mixed economy but leaned heavier on socialism/communism than capitalism. We will never know for sure, but if they lasted longer the capitalism elements probably would have reduced or possibly eliminated entirely.
@@hepwo91222 Just stop
20:41 the fact that Ben, a f*cking political science major, can say that Stalin's USSR was fascist is just embarrassing
Tbh, Stalins leadership had many fascist characteristics.
At least the person cult was existing.
But... the USSR was not a ethnic nationalistic driven state. (Fatherlandish war aside).
There is a seed of truth there. But propably not for the reason Shapiro thinks.
Yeah Hitler definitely wasn't socialist, and this just shows how unhelpful things like "left" and "right" become when trying to dive into political ideologies. Taking China for example, if you go solely off the CCP name, they look like extreme left wing. If you go by how much the government controls the economy, they look moderately left wing. If you go by how China actually operates economically, they look moderate-far right wing like the United States. This is the big issue with trying to label things as "left" and "right."
Hitler was neither and everything, he hated both capitalism and socialism because "jews" lol
Welcome to the era of pseudo-intellectualism, where anyone and everyone is a reputable authority on any subject.
@@nuck- and get speak well?
@@nuck- hahah anti-science. We have a president who think Climate change is a hoax. Something agree by 100% Scientist but who the hell care.
Well this is why I dont believe anyone talking politics on the internet. If anything I dont like these response videos. Nothing to learn from them because you already knew Crowder is wrong.
@MajorLeague
"I know only one thing, that I know nothing"
This is true. Only once you recognize you're ignorance can you learn.
@MajorLeague
What are you on about?
I'm just pointing out that those who need to claim that they are wise are the most foolish
Wisdom lies in understanding how little you know
Crowder’s humor is so forced and bland. I’m glad to have found an outlet to let this out.
Hes literally a failed comedian. The only reason his kind exist is to scare 60 year olds into dumping their savings into raw water or mud
@@VeryGnawty he dunks on so called "woke comedians" for being unfunny saying that comedy is dead, No Steven it just left u behind.
@@VeryGnawty So that's why he got fired from Fox News
@@cuber3603 I find him funny
@@redicd6857 I’m sorry
When the video started with a sigh i started laughing, like the fact that you even need to make a video like this is ridiculous because these people exist
Great channel btw
i know its pathetic.
The historical definition of Socialism is "Seizing the means of production"
And thats exactly what the Nazis did, idk why ya all try to say "no their not Socialist!!!!".
The Nazis didnt privitised the german economy, the Nazis nationalised the trade unions into 1 trade union, the DAF (Deutsche Arbeiter Front, German Workers Front), the same thing Lenin did in Russia....
Got to love this is a 42 minute video that goes in depth explaining the difference between Fascism and Socialism to debunk the whole, "Hitler was Socialist" argument.
And what do you get in the comments? Right-winged loonies who literally call themselves something like, "Aryan Caucasian" with a peculiar symbol for a profile pic. Who just go,
"Mmm. I dunno. Hitler was Socialist because he said he was." Which is fantastically hilarious. Because now you have to wonder is it lack of education where they try to debate with an already debunked argument? Is it ignorance because they refused to listen to a 42 minute long video because it doesn't adhere to their bias so it's not worth their time? Is it because they secretly worship Hitler and will 100% agree with what he says? Or is it because they want to keep up the facade until they try another insurrection? Probably all of the above.
They'll throw any bad faith argument out there no matter how much they contradict each other, because forcing smarter people to explain in detail why they're wrong makes the smarter people look like they're losing to ignorant crowds.
If you think the length of the video matters, ive got a 5+ hour video plus multiple 30-40 minute videos with sources cited that prove hitler was a Socialist.
they put socialism in the name because at the time socialism was super popular in Germany and they wanted support from socialists.
do these people think that Democratic People's Republic of Korea is democratic?
I guess.
Never trust anyone who does PragerU videos. That's a good rule of thumb.
Why, Prager too Jewish for you?
Steampunk Papercut PragerU is an idiotic conspiracy based theory channel and many of the videos don’t have reliable sources
Steampunk Papercut: Oh no, you’ve got us there!
@@soldierofkazus
PragerU is PropagandaU
@MajorLeague "Everything i disagree with is propaganda!111!" good shit, dumbfuck. By the way, nice fallacy fallacy.
God, every time I hear someone call the Nazis left wing, I lose 99% of my brain cells.
There's not much to lose I suppose. The author of this video is intentionally lying to his audience about the picture of Reichstag.
Looks like you didn’t have any to begin with. Nobody called hitler a leftist. They called him a Liberal socialist.. which he was..
*”Socialism is the science of dealing with the weal. Communism is not socialism. Marxism is not socialism. The Marxians have stolen the term and confused its meaning. I shall take socialism away from the socialists.*
*Socialism is an ancient Aryan, Germanic institution. Or German ancestors held certain lands in common. They cultivated the idea of the common weal. Marxism has no right to disguise itself as socialism. Socialism, unlike Marxism, does not repudiate private property. Unlike Marxism, it involves no negation of personality, and unlike Marxism, it is patriotic.”* -ADOLF HITLER
*Hitlers Zweites Buch* - Author, ADOLF HITLER.
*Page 50. “I am a socialist.”*
Brain cell*
damn, u must been losing ton of brain cell
@@mrgilmore6953see he has heard it
I have to wonder, do people actually believe Hitler was left wing? It strikes me more as a cheap debate tactic to just throw out “oh yeah, well Hitler was a national SOCIALIST, right?” And then force your opponent to have to explain the bare basics of political ideology, which takes effort.
Similar to how people will call Democrats “the Party of Slaves” and sound like they actually believe that makes modern Republicans the less racist party.
Do conservatives also not notice the inherently nationalistic (and right wing) “National” and “German?”
This argument is so dumb I'm shocked you mustered the energy to debunk it. Kudos
Omg a 42 min three arrows video
Time to get some tea bois
Lol I just got a cup of tea
And I was just about to go to bed.... oh well, better to have bleary eyes in the morning.
@Almighty God George Soros #420 #GetRekd por que no los dos?
I suppose Crowder would also argue that Hitler thought that diversity was the strength of the third Reich. Perhaps it was Hitler's open borders policy that finally sealed his fate 🤣🤣🤣
Well in a sense, Hitler did have an open borders policy.
Just in one direction, and especially for armies.
"Hitler was a Socialist and Stalin was a Fascist" is crazy doublespeak. We've also always been at war with Oceania.
No doublespeak. They’re just exaggerating the commonalities to a degree that is very unrealistic, yet not a far fetch.
An example is that both are very big government, both are ridiculously authoritarian and both were infested with a totalitarian ideology.
I mean, Stalin was pretty fascistic at times.
@@beanboi8838 Yeah, I love famines that kill half the population, too! Stalin has always been my childhood hero because I love famines and genocide!
"Okay Steven, here's two unlabeled cups of which you must drink one: one with water and one with hyrdogen peroxide. They're both just hydrogen and oxygen, so there's no difference, right?"
jjmblue7 h2o vs h2o2. Yeah same exact thing right? ‘’’logic’’’
ARMORED SAINT that’s kinda the point ?
They both have h and o
The joke is they’re practically the same
@@TheJoethud22 He thinks he is smarter than he is.
"""Logic"""" 101
@@TheJoethud22 The comparison is lost on ARMORED STUPIDASS.
It's a depressing thing to realize that untangling bullshit demands far more time and effort than creating it. Kudos for the honest work you do.
The 25 point Nazi plan proves they were socialists. Period.
i don't actually know how true that is! you have to research facts to twist them. sometimes during these debunkings i am very impressed at the density of misinformation, especially PragerU's video on the southern strategy
@@michaelnewman7248 ez
@@TuhljinTampergauge lmao yeah, make it easy for yourself, like your whole lazy ideology
@@TuhljinTampergauge There were some socialists in the party during the earliest days of the DAP. They were called Strasserites, and believed in socialism for Aryans. When Hitler won the power struggle within the party he had all the Strasserites kicked out, spent many hours reassuring corporate interests he was their ally, and during the Night of Long Knives had their former leader, Otto Strasser, assassinated. Virtually none of the 25 point programme was enacted when the Nazis were in power, and as the video demonstrates they were overwhelmingly right-wing/capitalist. Maybe read a book about the Nazis if you're going to talk about them, so you don't look like an ignorant jackass?
Ask anyone crying about socialism to simply "Define socialism" and they will absolutely *_NOT._* Because they can't.
Oh they'll define it. They'll just use wholly inaccurate definitions like "government owning the means of production" or "...when the government does stuff."
When such ilk are Confronted with the response to "define socialism": they either outright refuse to do so...
...or if they even try and bother to attempt in doing so; they end up describing Capitalism and/or Conservative Traditionalism and trying to falsely assert that either such aspects are either socialist or left wing progressive.
For the second example: basically it's projection top to bottom; falsely accusing the progressive left for the Conservative Right wings crimes.
Crowder saying that America’s system protects the minority is already immediately disqualifying, not to mention... everything else.
"Saying Hitler was a liberal socialist is already a hot take because it's an oxymoron..."
Love the little comments like these you sometimes say, always find them funny
At which part did Crowder say that?
*”Socialism is the science of dealing with the weal. Communism is not socialism. Marxism is not socialism. The Marxians have stolen the term and confused its meaning. I shall take socialism away from the socialists.*
*Socialism is an ancient Aryan, Germanic institution. Or German ancestors held certain lands in common. They cultivated the idea of the common weal. Marxism has no right to disguise itself as socialism. Socialism, unlike Marxism, does not repudiate private property. Unlike Marxism, it involves no negation of personality, and unlike Marxism, it is patriotic.”* -ADOLF HITLER
*Hitlers Zweites Buch* - Author, ADOLF HITLER.
*Page 50. “I am a socialist.”*
@@eldritchedward1:10
“Hitler was a socialist, it was in his party’s name!”
Yes Steven, take hitler’s word for it. Says a lot about you.
Leo DB Crowder must be confused by the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, then.
Wait??? He is still Alive???!!!!
Leave it to the Right to take Sophistry and kick it up to 11...
National socialism is socialism.
Right. Which is why the Nazis threw Socialists in jail...
Never understood the "mob rule" concern. With our current electoral college it's still a mob rule but of a smaller, more unhinged mob. Lol
I like how Crowders even misunderstands democracy and says it's "under mob rule," when actually it means rule by the people in greek and there are multiple variations of which. For example, the two things he says are separate aren't at all, like representative democracies (aka republics) and direct democracy (which he puts as the strict definition of democracy). You learn this in grade 7 social science.
To sum it up in a few sentences: The Nazis added the word "socialist" to their party's name - against Hitler's objections - to appeal to the left leaning working class in order to draw them away from Communism and toward volkish nationalism. The Nazi version of socialism relied on redefining German society from the notion of "Reichsdeutsche" (citizens of the German Empire) to that of "Volksdeutsche" (Germans with regard to ethnicity or race, rather than citizenship). Drexler specified that the socialist platform was only meant to give social welfare to German citizens deemed part of the Aryan race.
So no, Hitler and the NSDAP were NOT socialist in any sense it was or is used otherwise. It was no more socialist than the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is democratic.
@Rasmus Vohlakari No. Socialist in name only.
@Rasmus Vohlakari Hitler was already a member when the word Socialist was added to its name. Socialism is based on civic or left-wing nationalism - inclusive forms that apply to all citizens regardless of race, ethnicity, religion, etc. - and is therefore easily distinguished from the right-wing ethnic nationalist ideology of the NSDAP.
PauliBhoy is correct, there was no socialism in Nazi Germany.
Socialism first and foremost is a system where the workers own the means of production and they themselves manage the enterprises. That has never happened under the Nazis, Hitler detested that with a passion. There was wide support for social policies, sure, but better access to healthcare, higher pensions, etc. is not socialism.
Hitler toned down the anti-socialist / anti-communist rhetoric for a while when he courted the USSR so they could divide Europe between them easily. That was not an ideological pact tho, it was a pact between two countries that both felt screwed over by the rest. And even when the state took control of the whole economy in order to throw everything into the total war, they didn't do it because of socialism, they just had to. And the workers saw nothing from it.
@Rasmus Vohlakari right and then he murdered most people in the strasser wing.
Whoa so they did a bunch of socialist policies. They screamed about socializing the people into a volsgezmein but because they weren't your type of socialist they had no influence from socialism? Right. You even said the Nazi version of socialism then claim it wasn't socialism at all. Ok you are the real socialist and these were heretic socialists. Got it.
You left Crowder's fake German accent in. You monster! ;_;
And it still wasn't the worst thing he said.
You monster you didn't do a video the iconoclast(the ukip guy with 100,000 subs).
@@keyofw that's just sad.
Dang, I missed that because I fast-forwarded through any bits of modern Goebbels speaking.
NEIN NEIN NEIN
In the months after Hitler took power, SA and Gestapo agents went from door to door looking for Hitler’s enemies. They arrested Socialists, Communists, trade union leaders, and others who had spoken out against the Nazi party; some were murdered. By the summer of 1933, the Nazi party was the only legal political party in Germany. Nearly all organized opposition to the regime had been eliminated. Democracy was dead in Germany.
However, the assumption that because the word “socialist” appeared in the party’s name and socialist words and ideas popped up in the writings and speeches of top Nazis then the Nazis must have been actual socialists is naive and ahistorical. What the evidence shows, on the contrary, is that Nazi Party leaders paid mere lip service to socialist ideals on the way to achieving their one true goal: raw, right-wing totalitarian power.
Yes, the Nazis were indisputably Right-Wing
Sometimes the claim is bandied about that the Nazis were a left-wing party on economic questions, perhaps because the Nazis were called “National socialists”. This is flatly and completely wrong and a form of pseudo-historiography. Here’s why:
The Nazi party was built on right-wing voters and a right-wing support base:
There are many disputes about the nature of Hitler’s voting base. What isn’t under dispute though is that prior to voting Nazi, Nazi voters voted for centre-right and far-right parties, or didn’t vote at all. Support for the Nazis did not come from disaffected left-wing or centre-left voters, but from right-wing voters frustrated with the existing parties of the right.
In my view this point alone is decisive. The meaning of right-wing and left-wing is not an ahistorical abstraction, it’s created by the behaviour of people and institutions. The right-wing citizens of Germany implicitly recognised the Nazis as right-wing by voting for them, case closed.
Read more about which parties Nazi voters defected from here: gking.harvard.edu/files/gking/files/nazivp.pdf
2. The Nazis literally invented privatisation:
The Nazis were responsible for huge privatisation programs. The extent of their privatisations was enormous, but it was particularly vast when compared with other countries at the time, who were generally moving in the opposite direction. The privatisations of Nazi Germany may indeed have been the first mass privatisations of public property in history and included “Steel, mining, banking, shipyard, ship-lines, and railways.” More on how Nazis bucked historical trends by privatising when no one else was here: www.ub.edu/graap/nazi.pdf
3. Nazi policies greatly increased income inequality:
Income inequality spiked under Hitler, as was observed even at the time. More here: piketty.pse.ens.fr/files/capitalisback/CountryData/Germany/Other/Pre1950Series/RefsHistoricalGermanAccounts/Sweezy39.pdf
4. Capital as a share of factor income also spiked under Hitler, at the expense of wages:
Factor income describes the division between the factors of production, with land receiving rent, capital receiving profit and labour receiving wages. The capital share, or profit as a proportion of total income, increased by about 50% in Nazi Germany and was much higher than the US’s capital share at the time. See the below graph from Capital in the Twenty-First Century reproduced in a Jacobin article by Corey Robin:
I’m sorry if there’s not much in the way of Belles-lettres here. If I am blunt it is for a purpose. The Nazis were right-wing. Anyone who tells you otherwise is wrong, much in the same way it is wrong to say that the world is flat, six-thousand years old, or made of cheese.
"The US is not a democracy, its a constitutional representative republic"
A car isn't a means of transportation, its a motorized vehicle.
Ill take a sip
2 minutes in, listening to crowder explaining democracy, i feel like i am literally losing touch with reality
Yeah it gets really bad when you look up how many people listen to what he says.
“Hitler was a socialist liberal”
Spat out my tea (this has been happening to me a lot lately)
These people just parrot leftists talking points then facts and reality hit them they still brainwash them selves. That is the height of stupidity. these people think hitler was for limited government and capitalism LOL!
fascism is inherently anti-liberal lol
*”Socialism is the science of dealing with the weal. Communism is not socialism. Marxism is not socialism. The Marxians have stolen the term and confused its meaning. I shall take socialism away from the socialists.*
*Socialism is an ancient Aryan, Germanic institution. Or German ancestors held certain lands in common. They cultivated the idea of the common weal. Marxism has no right to disguise itself as socialism. Socialism, unlike Marxism, does not repudiate private property. Unlike Marxism, it involves no negation of personality, and unlike Marxism, it is patriotic.”* -ADOLF HITLER
*Hitlers Zweites Buch* - Author, ADOLF HITLER.
*Page 50. “I am a socialist.”*
@@legitimatelypissedoff4409 You’re just as bad as the people who cite newspaper articles saying “if the South secedes, it won’t be because of slavery.” Like, the whole reason the article exists is because everybody knew the truth, and someone wrote an article in opposition to what everyone knew (Southern papers claiming the South’s “peculiar institution” wasn’t the real issue, Hitler proclaiming himself a socialist after denouncing Gregor Strasser, himself not really a socialist, for having “too extreme” socialist ideas)
And your quote undermines itself, because it explicitly aligns itself in opposition to Communism and Marxism, boogiemen to the right and the whole reason “Socialism” is a dirty word in the first place.
Hitler was more than happy to enrich capitalists, dismantle unions (and send their leaders to concentration camps), and outright murder anybody remotely left wing, including (extremely moderate) Social Democrats. The idea that Hitler himself was a socialist is farcical, hence him having to reach for nonsense like “Socialism is an ancient Aryan Germanic institution.”
In short, you’re a clown and you should feel embarrassed (but I know you won’t, don’t worry). Also, you missed the entire point of my comment, which was the fact that calling someone a “Socialist Liberal” is total nonsense, comedically so.
Saying that nazis are the same as communists because they seized and redistributed property is like saying that murderers are the same as chef's because they use knives
Speaking as a vegan, that comparison doesn't work
@@WickedKnightAlbel carrots are living beings too
Speaking as a human, that analogy is terrible.
@@Statalyzer I mean, you're not wrong; not all murderers use knives.
The overall point stands, though. Nazi 'seizing and redistribution" of property was quite different from what Marx proposed. For starters, until Germany entered full war economy, basically of property seizing was from undesirables: Jews, Communists, Slavs, dissidents. The average German businessmen were allowed to keep their companies, as long as they didn't explicitly oppose the NSDAP. Compare that to the actual seizing of the means of production proposed by Marx and implemented by the likes of Lenin, Stalin and Mao in their own dictatorships, and there is a very noticeable difference.
@MajorLeague Did you even watch the video? Nazis were emphatically NOT socialist
I'll save you some time on the reach, the people did not have collective ownership of the means of production under the nazis so the nazis could not have possibly been a socialist party no matter what they called themselves
Some people were even removed from the party for being too socailist
"Is educating people left-wing?" Is probably best answered with "“It is a well known fact that reality has liberal bias.”
In other words, yes, it is. Or at least, it's more left-wing than right-wing.
There is a big confusion in the USA because the right wing erases real classical liberalism and the left wing increasingly abandons the history as well.
Thomas Jeffersonian was left libertarian but small government and was for public funded education but locally instituted with school boards.
Judging by how hard Crowder works to do the opposite? Yes, educating people is definitely left-wing.
You have one of the most important political channels on youtube
Correct, we need to remain informed on the delusions and lies of the far-Left so that we can act accordingly.
Mattys Modern Life "The Nazis were not leftists" constitutes "delusions and lies of the far-Left?" Do you read your comments before you post them?
Mattys Modern Life Lmfao, you're 100% correct.
@@manspider1532 You're such a joke, dude.
@@julianerikson4191 Says the guy who has no argument and keeps hash tagging my name in every thread lol.
D'souza's "Death of a Nation," a "documentary" whose title references a silent film in which the KKK rides in to save the day from the evil of black rights...
My dog is barking ravenously right now.
National socialism is a type of socialism in the same way that a urinal cake is a type of cake.
🤨🎂
The socialist closed down all private schools and forced public education. They also took private property in the name of the betterment of the state. The socialist identified the oppressor (jews) and oppressed (nazi germans). U should read Karl Marx's on the jewish question
What an intellectual, thought provoking reasoning. Maybe stop watching second thought
@@dominicsheldon6179 we don,t get to keep what we earn under capitalism infact our work is worth more than what we are payed for also we don't exactly have individual freedom if the corporations can simply just lobby the government to inact policies which limit individual freedom like making cites more car centric but that's a whole different topic we can debate on another commit section
@@zzz-nu2re partially true but it's important to mention if you were not collaborating with the nazis you could get replaced with a german loyalist semi nationalized tho if you were collaborating they would have left you alone entirely but all you had to do was provide materials for the war effort or the genocides
Also you left out the part were business people actually supported the nazis when confronted with the ever increasing support for coummnism post great depression without which the nazis would have never rose to power
@@trance7443 that was part of Hitlers plan, u socialize the businesses that wont play ball or its otherwise more advantageous to, and allow the free market to operate where beneficial. Even the Jewish bank in Israel worked with the Nazis and had an agreement to allow transfer of Jews and their wealth out of Germany in exchange for purchasing german products. Hitler had a theory that industrialization was not the game to play, rather agriculture would be the way to run the world. Thats why he started ww2, to take land to increase farming
Honestly, you really should do a video on the RUclipsr "Tikhistory" because he's popular, and because his entrenched insistence on misinforming his audience that the Nazis, especially Hitler, were socialist is of an astounding ignorance that even I had to just stop watching his videos on those subjects. The RUclipsr 'Finnish Bolshevik' did a three part analysis of some of it, but even he had to give up because Tik said, no joke, that "Hitler socialized the people by removing the Jews." Honestly, I wouldn't even bring this up is he wasn't so popular as a history guy, but the issue is only made worse by him being fairly knowledgeable about most other topics about the Second World War, so him saying shit like this is just grossly irresponsible; I just thought that he would require a thorough debunking on that subject.
"Hitler socialized the people by removing the Jews" YOU'RE FUCKING KIDDING, NO WAY HE SAID THAT! WHAT AN UTTER IDIOT!
_" on misinforming his audience that the Nazis, especially Hitler, were socialist"_
There is no such misinformation. There are only historical facts. You cannot be an advocate for centralized planning and strong government controls without being a socialist. That's what made Hitler a socialist. He may have been to the right from the Bolsheviks, but he was still a socialist leftist as he believed in strong central government control. Hitler outright declared himself a socialist in Mein Kampf, just not the Marxist international or full Soviet type. He struggled with HOW to distinguish his socialism from the rest of the Marxist crowd.
_"that "Hitler socialized the people by removing the Jews.""_
Doubt it, however National socialism believed in the socialization of the German people into a harmonious, racial, community free (Volksgemeinschaft) from "Jewish exploitation", that is, from capitalism and marxism. Hitler's National Socialism was racial socialism.
North Korea officially calls itself the Democratic People's Republic of Korea; therefore, it's a democratic republic. Makes sense.
I've found the idea of democracy and republic not being mutually exclusive (and not even concerning the same matter) to be absolutely baffling to several American friends. They will argue until they're blue in the face that America is a republic and therefore cannot be a democracy, no matter how many times or how patiently I try and point out the obvious. Maybe something to do with what they're taught in school? I dunno. It seems to be an almost sacred mantra to some.
I have to say I don't think people are going to stop repeating the "BUT SOCIALIST IS IN THE NAME" gotcha anytime soon, but the dive into the history of factionalism and ideological conflict within the NSDAP is really intriguing as we hear pretty much nothing about that outside of Germany, let alone outside of Europe.
the 'usa are a republic, not a democracy' is a super weird talking point, for two reasons:
1) it uses republic in a way nobody except people arguing this point are, and
2) by this defintion there are no democracies in the world, only republics.
so in the end, it is a meaningless statement because it differentiates between two things of which only one exists and is grossly misleading for 80% of the world.
(also i suspect this is pro-american propaganda teached in schools: look how good the usa are with our freedom unlike those pesky europeans hahaha )
Well technically most countries are constitutional democratic republics. There aren’t actually any true democracies in the world, because there’s no country in which a vote for every issue is made.
I've had people argue that North Korea is truly a people's democratic republic... just so that they could fall back on "It's in the name!!!1!" arguments when it comes to Nazis. I repeat, they defended the idea that North Korea is democratic, that it's a republic, and that it's governed by its people, because to do otherwise would undermine their only argument for claiming that Nazis are left wing.
Meanwhile Nazis marched in the US under the title "Unite The Right"... but what do I know?
Maybe they think that because the two party system of democrats vs republicans?
republics aren't democracies tho', that's like the one thing crowder gets right
but then he wants to make the point that the majority would always overule the minority in that situation, which is like, no. Nooo.
Hitler was never a socialist. Most people invariably think of Marxist socialism when they think of "socialism" because that's all they know. But Hitler was famous for using terms with a completely different meaning, and the reason was exactly to make it confusing. And one last thing, in the beginning of this you state that the greatest minds of today are working on this question of whether Hitler was a socialist or not. That is also completely false. The greatest minds of today are not working on this question because they already know the answer. There is absolutely nothing to work on with this question. In history it is crystal clear. It always has been clear. Hitler was never a socialist, never a Marxist, never a leftist. Hitler was always a conservative, Volkisch, extreme right-wing activist.
Exactly. Hitler wasn't a socialist. He was a German nationalist and a fascist. If he was a leftist or a socialist, he wouldn't have invaded the USSR
The greatest minds thing is meant to be a joke because Crowder, Shapiro and Dsouza are far from great minds
Being a volkisch was not being a part of socialism? What do you think socialism is? Just because you don't like his brand of socialism doesn't mean he wasn't one. I don't like Pinochet's brand of capitalism with an authoritarian government, I don't say he didn't support a capitalist system though. Ironically, it was capitalism that gave the people the power to get rid of his Junta. The bottom up approach will eventually erode and destroy the top down authoritarianism.
Bro the thing about the greatest minds was a joke 💀
@@johnweatherby8718. No, being folkish is not Marxist socialism. Hitler created his own, non-Marxist, form of socialism that he called "Front Socialism" and that he later elaborated on as being folkish or as Hitler explained it, everything about National Socialism is about race or the Volk, or in other words, Social Darwinist.
Honestly, someone who is so ignorant of socialist theory that he thinks ‘liberal socialism’ is a thing has no business deciding who is or isn’t a socialist.