My favorite part of comicpop is when there's Ethan and/or Ben want clarification about some nonsensical thing and Sal knows its nonsense and let's out an exasperated "okay, so..."😂😂
Oooh, this is fun, let me try: - *Indisputable Carnage:* In which Cletus Kasady joins a debate club for supervillains in order to destroy his enemies with facts and logic…and also with symbiotes. - *Infinitesimal Carnage:* The sequel to Minimum Carnage, but even smaller. - *Ambiguous Carnage:* In which Carnage may or may not be a character in this comic - it’s sort of unclear. - *Ornamental Carnage:* Cletus Kasady vs. Santa Claus.
You know what's crazy? I checked the Marvel wiki for Kirstin, and found out that she appears OUTSIDE of these Venom stories, too. Larry Hama included her and Clive both in some Wolverine issues he did!
Yep!! I don't know why but I'm inexplicably fond of her. I just think she's neat. The 90s' Venom comics have a lot of side characters that showed up for maybe 2-3 comics that I ended up getting attached to...
I feel bad for Larry Hama because he was doing a lot of fill in work in comics while also being the main writer for Wolverine and his Wolverine run is pretty good for the most part. Heck he came back for a mini series this year and it was pretty good.
My favorite part of this entire thing is that Eddie just...tells Kirstin that her lyrics need work, not so much as a hi, hello, hey, just "why is THAT your rhyme scheme??" He has this tendency, really, to just start talking to strangers, just jumping right into what he thinks of them without so much as a "hey." Why is he like that. Very relatable to me, though.
I effing love the mental image whenever Sal describes himself, as a kid, reading a comic and contemplating how egregious and confounding a writer's decision is
(Around 1:08:45) Then he tries to save him with webbing but fails and it becomes a Gwen Stacy allegory... "You killed the junkie I knew for 5 minutes, and now you're going to DIE!"
The story of this book is so insane. Carnage has the craziest stories. We have zombie carnage, tiny carnage, silver surfer carnage, powerless carnage who just gets naked and paints himself red, and now we have internet carnage.
Lmfao. I remember buying all of these off the stands. Back in the day when the only way they could convey the idea of the internet in fiction was as if it was some virtual reality/video game type experience (think the movie "Hackers").
9:05 I always imagined the reason Spider-Man's spider sense doesn't work on Venom is because by being on Peter for so long, somehow the symbiote learned how to circumvent it.
Gonna listen to this 3x in its 24 hrs 😆 actually no wakeup with comic pop in the morning so background here now at work, more actual watch when I get home. All peace always population!
that and the fact that the corporate bad guy basically invented the concept of freemium...this comic has aged better than it should have while being so UNBELIEVABLY dated at the same times
@26:00 they should have sold it as Carnage sitting in his cell playing as Carnage, while you and everyone else playing the game, technically are playing as Spiderman and Venom, that way you could actually say your fighting Cletus from his cell
I have two luckily even in my advanced ish age. One lives 5 states away sadly. But the other one just an hour or so. Take my advice. If you should find friends like mine, you keep them forever.
Carnage Unleashed was ahead of its time. A free2play asymmetrical multiplayer game? And the crazy is not allowed to profit off his crimes? Goodbye Xerox, farewell Apple. I’m investing in „Excessive Violence Inc.“
I read Venom back in the day- I'm glad you spent so long on the videogame because that's what I remember most from that series. That and the dog and drill scene.
I’m honestly one of the maniacs that would love to go through that Carnage maze at Universal. I went through a similar one themed to Arkham at the Warner Bros Studio lot. That shiz was badass
Holy crum, I just checked when that Carnage Halloween Horror Night was and apparently *it was 2002!?* Not even when Carnage was new!? What in the multiverse were they thinking!?
Carnage definitely isn't an anarchist. Anarchy isn't chaos. Anarchists oppose established tyranny and malicious authoritarianism, have empathy, believe in consent, etc, and aren't violent, sadistic, psychopaths like Carnage.
Most people are tricked by our society into believing anarchist are like that. Mostly likely so that the rich and powerful can continue their status quo of having power over the masses.
Why does this cover make me think of Separation Anxiety. I totally forgot about this story. Every time I see this cover I think of Separation Anxiety for some reason.
900 Venom minis and Sal is gonna call out my childhood favorite one and say he's never covering it. Lol well damn Oh well. Someone out there thinks Vengeance is cool. Not much else, but he's got the baddest 90's design ever. Flaming skull with a mohawk; that's more 90's than just about anything.
Man, I know you guys film these ahead of time, but I would love if this was a two-parter into the next Venom story. Regardless if it's that or something else, I'm excited for next week.
It's fun how they can block out having read an issue of something on GBU. Thr guys definitely read the first issue, but seemed surprised by the first few pages entirely
Y'know if they made a Dahmer series I'd bet they'd make a carnage netflix series. Although you usually wait for them to die, and he's come back like 3 or 4 times now.
I imagine there’s like dozen of documentaries about different heroes and villains who have died because people made them in the brief period of time before their resurrections Gotta be even weirder for the ones that constantly flip flop between good and bad
You know what’s crazy, a year after this comic, Postal would be released which is about a mentally deranged man killing innocent people and police officers, and it ends with you trying to shoot an elementary school
Oh, this is one of my FAVORITE stories. It's so stupid, but it's so damn fun. Anyways: PLEASE cover Venom: The Madness. Or Venom: The Hunger. Or the other one called The Hunger that's from the 2000s. PLEASE. Or Lethal Protector II.
All the other Super-heroes were all probably all busy fighting Onslaught or had already been "killed" while this was going on. God I remember reading this story when it came out and how ridiculous I thought it was. Still can't believe that Hama wrote this one
Buy Venom: Carnage Unleashed! amzn.to/3UqnfmQ
@@heartattack9234 Well, I know what I'm doing this week
27:56 Clue: The Carnage Edition should be a short if it isn't one already
My favorite part of comicpop is when there's Ethan and/or Ben want clarification about some nonsensical thing and Sal knows its nonsense and let's out an exasperated "okay, so..."😂😂
"Now that Carnage is beaten, what do we do now?"
"What do you mean? Now we can finally play the game."
"Oh yeah."
I lost the game
@@Grievousish damn it
Nice south park reference
I live to win.
Ayyy lmao
Venom: Reminding us that the internet can be filled with carnage.
SURF THE WEB! SURF THE WEB!
Loving the flannel trio. In appropriate Carnage(TM), Venom(TM) and... Hobgoblin(TM) colours!
I've Googled synonyms for Unleashed, Maximum, and Absolute and there still over a dozen words left they can use for over a dozen Carnage stories.
I'm still waiting for when carnage turns into an academic. Irrefutable Carnage....😄
@@JohnClark-tt2blI want the comedic adventures in Irreverent Carnage
I think they gotta go word salad carnage next. Just make him a bunch of adjectives. Immense Inevitable Insane Carnage. Go big or go home
@@connorpalmer6454he incredible and amazingly arduous adventures of the insane, ineffable, irreverent, and audacious carnage
Oooh, this is fun, let me try:
- *Indisputable Carnage:* In which Cletus Kasady joins a debate club for supervillains in order to destroy his enemies with facts and logic…and also with symbiotes.
- *Infinitesimal Carnage:* The sequel to Minimum Carnage, but even smaller.
- *Ambiguous Carnage:* In which Carnage may or may not be a character in this comic - it’s sort of unclear.
- *Ornamental Carnage:* Cletus Kasady vs. Santa Claus.
You know what's crazy? I checked the Marvel wiki for Kirstin, and found out that she appears OUTSIDE of these Venom stories, too. Larry Hama included her and Clive both in some Wolverine issues he did!
Yep!! I don't know why but I'm inexplicably fond of her. I just think she's neat. The 90s' Venom comics have a lot of side characters that showed up for maybe 2-3 comics that I ended up getting attached to...
1:08:06 “Who the fuck is Kirsten… and why do we CARE!?!” 🤣😂 Priceless Sal reaction!
I feel bad for Larry Hama because he was doing a lot of fill in work in comics while also being the main writer for Wolverine and his Wolverine run is pretty good for the most part. Heck he came back for a mini series this year and it was pretty good.
It would be hilarious if Venom defeated Carnage’s internet powers by picking up a lane line while Carnage used the internet, that would be so 90’s lol
My favorite part of this entire thing is that Eddie just...tells Kirstin that her lyrics need work, not so much as a hi, hello, hey, just "why is THAT your rhyme scheme??" He has this tendency, really, to just start talking to strangers, just jumping right into what he thinks of them without so much as a "hey." Why is he like that. Very relatable to me, though.
I effing love the mental image whenever Sal describes himself, as a kid, reading a comic and contemplating how egregious and confounding a writer's decision is
I like how Ethan's shirt matches Carnage, Sal's shirt matches Venom, and Ben's shirt matches... the couch lol
(Around 1:08:45) Then he tries to save him with webbing but fails and it becomes a Gwen Stacy allegory...
"You killed the junkie I knew for 5 minutes, and now you're going to DIE!"
"I didn't even know what a Carnage was." "But you knew you wanted it!" is the most Sega Genesis thing I've ever heard
I could watch a couple hours of them debating whether the symbiote is a person in the eyes of the law
I would argue that technically Carnage has no rights to his likeness as a “public figure”
Sal's face in the thumbnail would be the reaction if they announce more Morbius movies
If Cletus was a character in Clue I think my guess would always be in the form of Cletus with blank in blank regardless of the evidence
That would be profiling. But on the other hand, you would always end up winning. So what would be the lesson?
This Carnage story had so much impact on the 90s that I do not remember it at all. And I had a ton of comics from the 90s.
The story of this book is so insane. Carnage has the craziest stories. We have zombie carnage, tiny carnage, silver surfer carnage, powerless carnage who just gets naked and paints himself red, and now we have internet carnage.
What comic is naked powerless Carnage from? I do not remember that but it sounds terribly amazing lol
@@joeclarke7982 there was a story where he had lost the symbiote and painted himself red and kept killing people, it was peter parker spiderman #13
@@bZman thank you very much sir
@@joeclarke7982 no problemo
They should retcon Screentime to having gotten his experimental internet gas from this book.
Who?
@@TupocalypseShakur Look up the New Warriors video Critikal made. It’s goofy.
@@Night221Shadow you mean the comic that never came out?
"Ska is not dead! This gigantic robot ..."
1:11:36 Getting caught with heroine and he was like "no! It's for research!"
I thought nothing could top the venom: let there be carnage movie... And I was so wrong, so so very wrong.
This should have been the sequel to venom 😂
1:31- I love whenever Sal reminds us how many parts Maximum Carnage was and how much crazy shit happened in it and it still didn’t matter.
Carnage and venom in the internet itself is super weird story and very crazy.
My favorite New Jersey Lumberjacks reading one of my favorite guilty pleasure stories!
I love when you guys do these types of stories on the show. The wildest shit tends to get the funniest moments. 😂
Such an iconic cover for such a strange story lol
Did sal just make a legal eagle reference! Fuck I love these guys
_"Oops, all fights!"_
😂🤣😂🤣
SO funny, and completely ignored.
That’s one of the reasons I LOVE the Venom movies, cause they lean into the campy, cheesy, ridiculousness of the 90s comics
Yay! Venom 1 was like a reskinned remake of The mask (1994)
Same here!! It's a very controversial opinion, but boy am I quite stubborn on it.
Lmfao. I remember buying all of these off the stands. Back in the day when the only way they could convey the idea of the internet in fiction was as if it was some virtual reality/video game type experience (think the movie "Hackers").
Now I really want ComicPop to crossover with Legal Eagle 😅
*Sees the title* "Okay, I gotta see how that shit occurs".
The best episodes end with "I'm sorry"
At this point there’s probably a Cletus Kasady Netflix series in the Marvel universe
9:05 I always imagined the reason Spider-Man's spider sense doesn't work on Venom is because by being on Peter for so long, somehow the symbiote learned how to circumvent it.
Yeah, I thought that too- it had the opportunity to study it and learned to mask itself.
Gonna listen to this 3x in its 24 hrs 😆 actually no wakeup with comic pop in the morning so background here now at work, more actual watch when I get home. All peace always population!
Love how they are all wearing plaid in different colors. Tis the season
What a throw back to public school reading 😂😂 this story was nuts love it
32:07 this comic made me realize that online dating is way older of a concept than I thought it was
that and the fact that the corporate bad guy basically invented the concept of freemium...this comic has aged better than it should have while being so UNBELIEVABLY dated at the same times
@26:00 they should have sold it as Carnage sitting in his cell playing as Carnage, while you and everyone else playing the game, technically are playing as Spiderman and Venom, that way you could actually say your fighting Cletus from his cell
26:02 Elementary, my dear Baragona.
(Astoundingly astute!)
Ian is on absolute fire this episode...great job as always!
I wish I had friends that I could hang out with & talk like this with. Or play d&d with. I'd take either. Appreciate the videos, guys.
I have two luckily even in my advanced ish age. One lives 5 states away sadly. But the other one just an hour or so. Take my advice. If you should find friends like mine, you keep them forever.
I love the random "Son of a Buck" tiktok reference at the end.
Carnage Unleashed was ahead of its time. A free2play asymmetrical multiplayer game? And the crazy is not allowed to profit off his crimes? Goodbye Xerox, farewell Apple. I’m investing in „Excessive Violence Inc.“
Clive isn't paralised. He's just pretending for research
Well yeah the "EMT" who gave that diagnosis was just somebody pretending to be one for research purposes.
@@goodpeople25 this is how we ended up with Jared Leto pretending to be crippled for Morbius.
My fave will always be MINIMUM CARNAGE!
The idea of Carnage paying rent makes me happy inside.
At the mention of Larry Hama, my mind swims with images of GI Joe comics and file cards.
Venom wants to kill Carnage, because of the Maximum Carnage video game is popular. 😂
I read Venom back in the day- I'm glad you spent so long on the videogame because that's what I remember most from that series. That and the dog and drill scene.
Thank goodness, always can count on you all.
11:26 Ethan gives the rest of humanity too much credit considering someone made a Columbine video game
Yeah but it wasn't a major release with a huge company promoting it. That's the part about this book that's unrealistic.
@@ryebreadreturn1 fair enough
Cap may not sign off on that likeness usage. But the US War Bonds council would
I always thought a runcible spoon was just from a bit of nonsense verse. Lewis Caroll?
yay! now i can git through my 12 hour shift. Thanks comic pop!
"He he he!! Surf the web! Surf the web!"
I have these comics.
Nice episode.
Hope y'all do minimum Carnage one day it was cool
Ah, they should bring this internet power back for the symbiotes, in an event called NFT Carnage.
That's a terribld title. Now, Non-fungible Carnage, however.
If I had a dollar for all of the gobbledygook that came out of venom and carnage’s mouth this episode…
Hoo-Haa!
This episode has finally dethroned Terminator: Cybernetic Dawn as my favorite Back Issues
I’m honestly one of the maniacs that would love to go through that Carnage maze at Universal. I went through a similar one themed to Arkham at the Warner Bros Studio lot. That shiz was badass
I wonder if that time Brock as anti-venom cured someone of heroin addiction using his stupid anti-venom powers is a reference to this
Holy crum, I just checked when that Carnage Halloween Horror Night was and apparently *it was 2002!?* Not even when Carnage was new!? What in the multiverse were they thinking!?
27:56 Carnage Clue should be a short if it isn't already lol
Back Issues doing a book about Carnage? Wasn't that where it at all began? Full circle!
I read all the venom 90's miniseries a couple years ago. Loved the experience. I hope you do more.
SYMBIOTE EPISODE YESSS
All the Carnage books come across as a stream of consciousness. Maybe that's just comics in the 90s
Carnage definitely isn't an anarchist. Anarchy isn't chaos. Anarchists oppose established tyranny and malicious authoritarianism, have empathy, believe in consent, etc, and aren't violent, sadistic, psychopaths like Carnage.
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Most people are tricked by our society into believing anarchist are like that. Mostly likely so that the rich and powerful can continue their status quo of having power over the masses.
Keep badmouthin' Ska and Carnage'll come through your screen with a brass band!
Carnage is a metal head!
Omg this is one of the funniest back issues yet. Love it
Did not think that I would have the Maximum Carnage Horror Nights house name dropped in this episode but I can’t say I’m mad…
this is one of my favorite episodes now
Rewatching this episode now I've read the story myself 😅
Why does this cover make me think of Separation Anxiety. I totally forgot about this story. Every time I see this cover I think of Separation Anxiety for some reason.
You should do some early Apocalypse stories and Inferno. The first one
900 Venom minis and Sal is gonna call out my childhood favorite one and say he's never covering it. Lol well damn
Oh well. Someone out there thinks Vengeance is cool. Not much else, but he's got the baddest 90's design ever. Flaming skull with a mohawk; that's more 90's than just about anything.
Freakin love that image of issue 3 !!! So badass n sick🤙
Man, I know you guys film these ahead of time, but I would love if this was a two-parter into the next Venom story. Regardless if it's that or something else, I'm excited for next week.
I need a collection called 'oops all spidey' now lol
God, the weirdly verbose dialogue is hysterical. As was “Eatin’ wheatcakes”.
"Oops, All Fights!"
It's fun how they can block out having read an issue of something on GBU. Thr guys definitely read the first issue, but seemed surprised by the first few pages entirely
Guess this is my comic pop birthday gift
I keep trying to think of how to make a Carnage parody of the Freakazoid! theme song.
Flannel
They've gone to plaid!
“Andrew Wildman” what a name
Y'know if they made a Dahmer series I'd bet they'd make a carnage netflix series.
Although you usually wait for them to die, and he's come back like 3 or 4 times now.
I imagine there’s like dozen of documentaries about different heroes and villains who have died because people made them in the brief period of time before their resurrections
Gotta be even weirder for the ones that constantly flip flop between good and bad
You know what’s crazy, a year after this comic, Postal would be released which is about a mentally deranged man killing innocent people and police officers, and it ends with you trying to shoot an elementary school
@@heartattack9234 ?
Oh, this is one of my FAVORITE stories. It's so stupid, but it's so damn fun. Anyways: PLEASE cover Venom: The Madness. Or Venom: The Hunger. Or the other one called The Hunger that's from the 2000s. PLEASE. Or Lethal Protector II.
Lovin' the plethora of plaid on the couch this ep.
Holy Crap! Did Sal play Ultima online? That was my Jam!
25:34 So basically, Venom as a Vtuber?
All the other Super-heroes were all probably all busy fighting Onslaught or had already been "killed" while this was going on. God I remember reading this story when it came out and how ridiculous I thought it was. Still can't believe that Hama wrote this one