Michael Holding - Breakfast with Champions | Cricket Tuesday REACTION
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- Опубликовано: 16 янв 2022
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Gabe and Nick react to this BWC’s episode with Michael Holding.
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The way that test cricket is consumed\viewed has changed over the years. Back in the 70\80s tests would be broadcast on only one channel locally. You wouldn't be able to see overseas tours easily (involving your own team, let alone any other nations). Now with the various streaming\cable services you can see it all. When I was younger, I grew listening to cricket on the radio (especially when working), come home and watch an hours highlight package on TV in the evening. I'd be lucky to see 6 sessions live of each test match in Aus. If a team played 10 tests in a calendar year that was a lot back then. So yes, it's hard to keep up with the game every day.
@11.00 Just for info, Martin Crowe of NZ is the cousin of Hollywood actor Russel Crowe
As an Aussie, test cricket will always be the pinnacle. There is nothing better than test cricket in summer.
For me, I just don’t care as much about T20. Sure, I’ll watch it. But I can’t get invested and have a favourite team. I just want to see good cricket. In Australia we’re lucky where players still prioritise the Baggy Green, however I can understand how that’s not the case in other countries, due to disparity in pay.
I feel the same I think most Aussies view T20 as cartoon cricket.Legends and history is made in test cricket.
For the last few decades Michael has pursued his love of horse racing . He lives in Newmarket which is the centre of UK racing. And he regularly appears as an 'expert' analyser on TV racing coverage. He's a very popular figure in the UK despite the fact that he tormented us on the field !
Watch the gabba heist documentary Down Underdogs on sony, its a great watch
I burst out laughing when he said “People go to McDonald’s”
That was so funny
My fav too🤣🤣🤣
That goes for every food chain too. It's like people paying for diabetes and heart attack. 😂
He is a genuine legend, as an Aussie growing up in the 70's watching him, Andy Roberts, Malcolm Marshall and Joel Garner fighting it out against my heroes was amazing TV. I had a couple of Mauritian mates who were brothers that I played street cricket with and it would be me and a mate as the Australian team against them as the West Indies team. No racism here but because they were very dark skinned that was their choice and we would play for hours every day during the school holidays. We even scored in proper scorebooks and if the batsman or bowler was left handed thats how you had to bat or bowl. We are talking World Series Cricket days around 1977/78. They were great days and days when the Windies ruled the world.
Don't forget Colin Croft; a lovely amiable man outside of a game but unpleasant to face with his style of bowling from wide into the the batsman's body.
I can't just say how much I'm impressed with your knowledge guys been into watching cricket just for 2-3 yrs having such command on cricket 🏏 is just overwhelming i mean in a good way 😎🤘🏽 love you guys man.. 👌🏽
Excellent appraisal Gabe. Holding was a fantastic bowler, fast and accurate. He was poetry in motion. Never ran. Just levitated across the ground. He along with his fellow West Indian Gary Sobers are lionized here in OZ🇭🇲
There is only test cricket. Other forms of the game are called practice.
This is the second best video of breakfast with champions. Thank you nick and gabe for reacting to this. I have been requesting for a while. But you are still to react on the best video of this channel. That is the BRETT LEE video. 👍Hoping that will happen next Tuesday.
Wow... I was so waiting for this particular reaction.
Yay finally this reaction , thank you guys🙏🏾
As an Australian you gotta reallise how good this man was!!🇦🇺🏏
A great bowler and a great commentator, one of the voices of cricket and a true gentleman. Everyone knows that there is too much cricket being played today, the ECB's answer is to start playing The Hundred. It is just greed pure and simple.
One word " CLASSSSSSSSSSSS " 💯😎 that's the only word to describe Michael Holding 😎
Michael Holding averaged 554 overs a year over all formats over his 16 year career.
KG averages 538 overs per year over a 7 year career across all formats.
Mikey averaged almost 14 first class matches a season and KG almost 10. Obviously Rabada plays a lot more shorter format stuff.
So the workload isn't more but the number of formats is and the travelling.
Waited for this for so long ...i even mailed u guys 😀😀
Yeah. A few people have. Hope you enjoy it
@@CricketforAmericans No mention of the great Malcolm Marshall? He was the best of the W.I. fast bowlers.
@@CricketforAmericans oh I loved it...u guys are just like the snacks time discussion friends...can u guys see that camera is kept in front of u coz I don't feel so...started watchin ur channel recently ur cricket and food videos and amidst lockdown it's just like the evening time spending with friends having discussion over a topic...thanks a lot 👍👍
Andy Robert's was the first and best. Good memories he played some matches for our local cricket team Sutherland iI the south of Sydney. Also stood behind the stumps and watched him at a training day. Cheers
Wow never knew , that why I come live stream or when ever nick and Gabe dip videos to read the comments learning alot from the past thanks for this
@@reeneljoseph your welcome. He Andy Roberts seemed like a humble lovely man and he even spoke at a special cricket service at a Cronulla Church which I attended because I was playing junior cricket for Sutherland at that time. Cheers
@@grahamkelly520 wow really cool , thanks very much. Have a great day/night.
@@reeneljoseph hi if you get a chance watch the bbl match from last night Glen Maxwell got highest score over 150 .admittedly Hobart were resting their best bowlers for the final. Cheers
@@grahamkelly520 definitely am about to go and check it now just finish my assignment. Thanks very much.
He's right. It's practically impossible to fluke a Test match win, especially now with DRS. That's why it's the greatest format.
Agree with Gabe and holding here !!! In t20 it's just a matter of 1 or 2 overs that turns the game on its head. It just requires one player to have a day out.
my fav reaction video on this channel!
Thanks
Whispering death himself. Wow!!!
20 twenty cricket is great. ODI,s are great. but test cricket is, and always will be the number one version of cricket. test cricket will hopefully never die.
When I hear his voice I just hear Graeme Swann's impression of him now.
And Gabe just underscored my point about why cricket must not have franchises. As long as cricket franchises exist, the international governing bodies will never be able to regulate the game and give players time off. The governing bodies don't want the cricketers playing as much cricket as they currently do, it isn't in their interest, it shortens players careers. But, as soon as the ICC try and free up some time for the players, the franchises go, ' OOO look, there is a lovely block of free time, lets hurry up and use it all up before the ICC makes use of it'. And, the ICC is the loser in that scenario every time (as well as the cricketers longevity). Just the way that it works when you have private enterprise involved. Get rid of those fuck knuckles, and let the governing body rationalize the sport again.
Watching now...
Yes!!! Thanks for the request and being patient
Yayyy..!! loved this reaction and the talk around it. I do feel like i don't remember t20 matches as much as i do remember Test matches. I remember a small border gavaskar trophy of 2 matches in india in 2010. It was the last Ponting series and last chance for him to win a Test match in India. Ponting never won a Test match in India. That time 2nd test match, india 8 down needs 100 odd runs with VVS laxman and 2 bowlers to come..bowlers in terms of anderson and bumrah batting. VVS laxman with a runner coz of his back pain. Somehow, we won that match and i watched on tv my 1st experience of a test match alone and i felt this is something special. I want to watch more. This doesn't happen that much for me in t20 barring Ind vs Pak 2 world cup matches in 2007
Do you know about the bgt 2020 documentary made by Sony networks if it is available in usa can do like watch along with everyone
Malcolm Marshall actually edged out Colin Croft in that pace attack and Colin Croft went on a rebel tour to South Africa in 1983 during apartheid and was banned from playing for the West Indies afterwards - that’s why he didn’t play many test matches.
Documentary on shane warne's life is coming on Amazon prime on 25th January
Cortny walls was the highest wicket taker in test match for a long time, then was taken over by murli and shane warne....
Yes finally
For Gabe. You guys should do a reaction to this series that aired in the 1980s called Bodyline. It was about the Bodyline series where the English realized they couldn't deal with Bradman and had to resort to such negative tactics. It's well acted and a must watch for every cricket lover. The best part is you guys will understand everything in it. It has a great cast and is really well acted. Here is a link: ruclips.net/video/A-3MkGh096E/видео.html
Both of you are great analysts of cricket! Kudos to both of you! I being an ex professional club cricketer agree on your points. There's too much cricket going on.
According to me only top 4/5 teams should be allowed to play test cricket (India, Australia, England, Newzealand and South Africa). I am saying this because teams like Ireland, bangladesh and Afghanistan have been given the test match status which i do not support at all because they can't fight in this match and the match becomes boring.
And coming onto fast bowling, totally agree with the legend here, too much matches for fast bowlers! You have to give them time to recover. Great to her Gabe pointed out about Jofra Archer, i believe we have lost a very exciting bowler!
Support test Cricket! That's real cricket!
We love test cricket. It’s our favorite format
Gabe is on the money (pun intended) re Wi players. Until funding in international cricket is rationalised this will be the case.
WICB has probably the lowest per capita income opportunities while having the highest staging costs IMO.
I live in Barbados. Nearest island St. Vincent is 100 miles across the sea and you have to fly the teams & equipment. No ferries, no trains. Going to Trinidad? 260 miles! Guyana? 400 miles! Jamaica? 1500 miles! All by air.
Home market? About 5 million. So where's the money coming from?
I mean there is a lot more that's wrong but this is the abiding problem that undermines everything else
Totally agree , been saying it long the system we don't have any proper system in place for the players that another thing.
So here is the problem Nick and Gabe, too much cricket is not enough. If people weren't paying for the product it would not continue, but they are. The national cricket boards of most countries have bank accounts that border on the ridiculous. Up until the 80's they paid almost no one. Players would get the same amount of money for playing the game as they might get from working the same amount of hours. So they were being compensated for lost wages basically. When it became professional not only did players get paid better but the game exploded. In a typical year players would play in their domestic competition, in Australia that meant playing for their state (but sometimes international level players would turn out for their suburban club - grade cricket) in the round robin four day events. They would play five tests a summer and by the mid 80's 10-15 ODI's. They would then, many of them, head overseas to play in other domestic competitions and they would be called up to play overseas test perhaps 5-8 games. Not necessarily a lot less cricket but a lot less travel and a lot less pressure. It was still a game for them. I do think the international programme needs to back up a bit and allow for player investment in domestic leagues. Nations should be limited to say 10 tests a year, 20 ODIs and say 30 T20's or something like that and fill out the schedule so that it was even. Players should be limited in the number of T20 tournaments they can play and cricket boards should pay everyone that is eligible a base salary that was enough to live on. That kind of measured approach is the only way forward I think.
For Newbies you guys really know your cricket. In the eighties The Windies were terrifying.
guys still waiting for Gayle interview plz do that also plz next week.. iam huge gayle fan
I think T20 is changing cricket because increasingly you're seeing cricketers specialised to a particular form of the game (in Australia Chris Lynn springs to mind - he'll chase T20 everywhere, but I doubt he even cares that Tests will never be on the radar for him). Some modern players seem to almost get confused playing longer forms of the game because they are so used to playing the quicker formats.
And Gabe is 100% right - part of the appeal in 20-20 (for supporters) is that even when your side is rotten, you feel the result is close and you might even fluke a win. But I think the problem is that's by design - T20 was designed to appeal to non-traditional cricket audiences (predominently women and children), and in domestic T20 competitions you often find it's more about the gimick and festival than the actual game itself.
After T20's success there was efforts to make fast, shortened versions of other games (if you don't already know the horror of AFLX look it up), but only in cricket - where the longest format requires such investment of time and attention it was most successful.
Lynn was on the test radar. Average above 40 with double tons at shield level. Quit first class and one dayers to lessen the work load due to all his shoulder injuries which nearly ended his career. Bit of a stupid player to choose. I do agree with what you are saying though
They talked about Wahab Riaz spell in WC 2015 against Australia
That day if pakistani fielders gave him the support he required that time
He could have put atleast 4 more batsman head on plate and serve it to the team easily
Big Bird...
React on 2019 world cup review video on the ICC 's channel
You talked about india playing after one week gap after the world Cup.. New Zealand played after one day!
Didn’t they play India? Nonetheless that may be true but my point was what is wrong with the play of India. That was the point I was making.
@@CricketforAmericans yes they played india but what I am saying is they got even shorter time to recoup.. After the final they just took the flight to india the same night and played the match a day later
A test defeat hurt way more than odi or T20 defeat.
7:16
I mean look at England's situation.. I think a recent controversy broke when david grower blamed the ipl and the whole system for England's performance.. and people were like didn't aussie and the Indians play the IPL yess but the difference is they only play the IPL and the bbl and not every other t20 league in the world and when it is say the aussie summer or in here The Indian summer they play there respective first class tournaments be it the shield or the ranji trophy
Could listen to Mikey all day. Shame he's just retired from comms.
I dont agree with his t20 views sometimes his commentary is little bit boring but since his last yr racism video on skysports my respect increased for him as a person
The Reason why these 4 horse man have not very high number of wickets coz they played together so you are not getting many chances to get those wickets
Check out the show WHAT THE DUCK
It is similar to BwC and is much more hilarious
No mention of the great Malcolm Marshall 🤔
It’s funny. We did mention him in a part I had to edit because I wrongfully thought he was part of the four horseman. Gabe let me know he wasn’t. But I mentioned how he had more wickets than the two horseman we mentioned with over 400. He was a savage for sure
@@CricketforAmericans Appreciate the response...Marshall was probably the most dangerous and durable of all the W I. fast bowlers of that time period. The unique thing about him was that he could be very effective on pitches the the others could get nothing out of. He did not have the physical stature of the others, but he was also deceptively fast...A feature on him would be a great piece to react to.
@@lincolnlewis6979 Many don't know that Maco started out as a medium pacer. Was seen as a workhorse really. Said that Denis Lillie was instrumental in building his fast bowling technique.
@@jockspringer9457 you are correct, he was considered medium fast early in his career, he developed into a formidable fast bowler who could be dangerous on even "dead" pitches..he was deceptively fast and also a thinking bowler.
I agree with Nick’s comment about having format specialists. Maybe even two formats. But players shouldn’t play all three in my opinion. Especially bowlers. Look at Ben Stokes, he’s falling apart and he’s only 30 years old.
Great video as usual guys. Loved this discussion
Thanks Kyle. They shouldn’t play in all three. Agreed
Especially true of bowlers, but also batters to some extent. The techniques are chalk and cheese between the short and long formats. Some test players argue that T20 techniques help their test game, but there's a downside too.
When Brett Lee bowls, you can see the effort. When Micheal Holding bowled he looked lazy. Guess who was fastest? I will give you a hint... A Caribbean accent.
Garnier looked lazy too😡
React to Shane bond...
Don’t worry Gabe West Indies will beat England in the test series.
React to the new Shane Warne trailer
We need to hold the icc accountable, they are ruining cricket.
Well said 👏🏾👏🏾
Bcci doesn't allow it's players to play other leagues. Hence only retired players go play other leagues.
There is too much bilateral t20 cricket which doesn't matter, australia didn't take the bilaterals seriously and yet won the WT20
Sorry gabe, don't use Micheal holding to make your point. Its not what he said !!! He said theres " too much cricket " ALL CRICKET. THERES T20 AND ODI NEARLY EVERY WEEK!!! TEST MATCHES HAVENT INCREASED THAT MUCH. IT COULD BE REDUCED SLIGHTLY. , AND EASILY. ALSO what needs to ne considered is there are more test playing nations now, so naturally it will increase . If you cant play test cricket as a cricketer, you should quit the game. How many T20 matches di u remember ?? Hardly any . It s like a McDonald's meal.... simple solution , get rid of ODI. THEYRE OUTDATED NOW. Me personally, once test cricket goes , i ll be done with cricket. FEED THEIR FAMILIES !!! YOURE JOKING !! TO get an ACB CONTRACT youre guaranteed $$$, whether you make thd first 11. T20 really doesnt count unless youre IPL, OR WORLD CUP.
Make short video bro... of 15 min or 20 min
The actual video is 15 minutes. 5 minutes of reacting to it?? No way
Take a look at what he says about the people in charge of West Indies cricket.
Underpaid!!! Dude, $$$ has ruined cricket, look at wrst indies, and then England ashes performance, prime exame!!!
Money , ICC and the big 3 , franchise ruined cricket.