EARLY CHEESE IN MONSTER HUNTER FREEDOM UNITE
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EARLY CHEESE IN MONSTER HUNTER FREEDOM UNITE 
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1:30 - The contract fee is actually from the guild, and is refunded if you clear the quest. It's meant to prevent inexperienced hunters from failing quests over and over while costing the guild a lot of money to transport and heal them.
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Tigrex was like everyones first wall for most of us :3
So definitely not totally a skill Issue, but also he is more like a exam test to push you into prepping more, so in a sense you passed :D
The true test is "Monster Hunter" and "TFI" it's a skill issue.
First time I beat it I was carted twice and only had 42 seconds remaining! Sooo satisfying!!
Just use the khezu greatsword
It becomes a walk in the park
One really effective item to bring on certain hunts are flash bombs. Most of the time if a monster is flashed they will just stand there and spam their weak attacks. They dont have diminishing returns either (same with traps) so you can bring the combines for them too.
The problem is farming the flashbug, without dlc
@@zikriflanery7030 yep it is the main problem about the flash bombs but it is the best way and easier way and more if you're a MM
@@JOHAN0595 what's MM?
@@zikriflanery7030 marksman xD
flashbug is easy to get once you upgrade your bug farm, which is nice on most hunts, but dont use them against narga 😂😂😂
>Sleep Bombing
ah yes, if you start with freedom unite, this gets baked into your strategy for the rest of the series. Friends and I played Freedom unite, and I went on to play through the series. We later met up in Sunbreak, and behold, i noticed them ritually putting down mega barrel bombs when the monster was down. Just like old times...
Oh man I remember my first Tigrex I’ve ever hunted in FU, which was just about a year ago (after having known the game for more than a decade). It felt amazing, and you can only go up from there.
For me, the first wall was Village Khezu, partly because my old PSP had its analog stick broken, but also it was a 10-year-old kid skill issue
I was 14 and couldnt handle khezu for weeks. So I get what you mean.
I'm a new player to the franchise, and man, learning how to fight congala made my head hurt, but Khezu was really easy!
I’ve been loving your journey in FU. Keep the hard work and the sums up from the live streams for the ones than can watch them whole
one of the best ways to manage MHFU is with the Poison Battle-axe. Gypceros materials, poison ticks, decent sharpness, and quick movement due to being SnS. Pair that with Hornfly armor and you're set for a while.
So glad that I got a chance to witness your first ever capture in MHFU live on Twitch stream. You caught a Tiggy no less! 😃👍 Way to go, Bata! Also, since you're cheesing with sleep bombing already anyways, might I suggest Flashpod cheesing also? Not saying flash him the whole time. Non-enraged Tiggy is easy enough to handle. But as soon as he becomes enraged, flash him & shoot the heck out of that poor blind thing. Once flash wears off, Tiggy only has a few seconds left on enraged timer. You just need to play very cautiously for a few secs. Then he calms down so you can fight him normally again. Rinse & repeat. Best of luck & Happy Hunting, Bata ❤
Capturing is easier than killing tho
This game was my first monster hunter, I remember stumbling through the game not knowing a lot of the best practices when I started, mid way through the game I found a forum discussing strategies to fight the monsters, got all the way to yama tsukami offline.
Also it still has the best kitchen system imho
Definitely loving this series, real nice seeing you figure out fighting tigrex. Young me couldn't have ever thought fighting tigrex would be easy
My favourite old school tigrex exploit was the greatsword technique. You made a specific gs and time it's attacks (very predictable back then) and get a guaranteed flinch out of him. Made him very manageable
doesnt sound like an exploit to me
Any monsters that shares the skeleton with Tigrex suffers from this, like Nargacuga. As a GS user, stand behind their hind legs at roughly 4:00 o'clock direction, with Narga's head at 12:00 o'clock, then charge towards the middle of the body. If you didn't have any Focus skills, the timing would be perfect because when they turned, their head always lands to where the GS hits
@@ShatteredGlass916 Almost every monster suffers from this to an extent. The vast majority of my playtime using GS was exploiting the monster sluggishly turning around. Rathalos and rathian can be got the same way after they do a charge and lunge, and rajang is open when he turns around
@@LSDOvideos lao shan, shen gaoren, gravios is bad matchup with gs unless you tell me how to deal with them. Sounds like your a gs expert to me.
@@DarkOminigiri Lao shan lung is pretty easy. You don't even really need a strategy. When he's walking, just stand at around halfway along his belly, do a fully charged hit, roll forward once or twice, repeat.
For shen gaoren it's not much different. Wear tremor resist armor (blangonga) and sus out which of his feet is safe to stand next to in that moment. Then just cycle through charged slash and a wide/upwards slash depending on your positioning (wide slash pushed you a bit forward, upwards slash pushes you back a bit).
Gravios and Black gravios are a complete nightmare with GS. The main strategy you want to go for is to use barrel bombs to break its belly armor, then just fuck around for 50 minutes waiting for him to do a laser beam that doesn't also shoot out the black smoke that explodes. His belly is his only real weak point, so focus on that. It's not easy! The high rank mandatory B Gravios quest is legit the least fun I had in any game ever. For high rank I made a dedicated bow build (the bow escapes me, but at some point you either get an item from trenya, or as a treasure that you mine/dig up, that you can turn into a HR water bow. I used this for gravios and b.gravios.)
Extra tips: For rathalos, the best time to hit him in the head is to start chargin your slash while he's landing. Stand like a hunter's length away from the black shadow on the ground as he's landing, and the moment he lands you will be ready to hit him on the head right away. This technique helps especially against silver rathalos who likes to fly a lot. This strategy also works very good against Fatalis. Of course, for the raths, when they run, they'll eventually end their charging attack by lunding forward and sliding on the ground. This is a good time to start charging behind them to hit their head.
For plesioth, he's actually quite vulnerable when he does the spinning around attack. If you position yourself between his legs correctly you can get a charged hit on his belly. Otherwise focus on doing draw attacks on his belly when he's doing the water jet attack.
For diablos, if you shock him out of the ground with a sound bomb, you can do a charged attack on his lower back/tail. Then, when he flies up out of the sand, you can do a sideways slash, then an overhead slash (or vice versa), the start charging. You should be able to hit a fully charged slash while he's landing (but not on the ground yet. His tail, the weakest point, will be hanging very low and very much in reach).
Hope you enjoy the double Tigrex urgent online quest xD I started my MH journey with FU and this quest was a great wall to get to the next rank (solo). I used the Khezu GS back then and every time Tigrex was in rage mode i switched to the other Tigrex. After over 30min stuggle i finaly beat that quest! That feeling back then was awesome and thats how i want to experience games. Thats the reason why my most played games are Soul Like Games
Just watch you’re MHFU stream I am glad that you have recently start to play an Classic Monster Hunter game. Can’t wait to see you’re more MHFU. And also congrats on your First Capture Monster.
Biggest exploit tbh is the blos dying to pellet spam. In OG Freedom, you could get a guaranteed monoblos heart by killing it whilst in a pitfall trap. You'd guarantee this by shooting it while it burrows, which is when it can't be killed. There's a really nice early blademaster armor you can get as well with sharpness+1 and earplugs
arena quests also reward you more the more items are left in your inventory, so after killing the monster you can search in the rubbish piles for extra traps and flash bombs. they also can significantly shorten the time to hunt a monster with certain weapons (strategy? in MY monhun??)
i recommend learning hammer now, some monsters later on are just not worth it with LBG.
I remember playing this back in the day using portable, And you're actually wrong Bata. Its not only Guns but majority of the weapons will have a hard time with that Tigrex, I remember using almost all and got wreckt. Then I tried to build that Black Katana with Thunder element. Hunt went so smooth and I was able to hunt that thing. Nostalgia
nostalgic vibes since this is also the game that introduced me to the franchise , keep up the good work and happy hunting
Love the freedom unite vids! Was hoping you did the old greatsword charge strategy on the tigrex but sleep bombs work.
Gotta say, you've become really good with making videos. I appreciate your videos
2:18, something that must be cleared up, the Power Seed can usually be bought by the merchant who is next to the gathering hub before you ever go onto a quest, after around an hour of attempts to get a different option from her, it seems that it is always there, to be able to buy them, all you need to do is get the 1500 zeni from the old woman.
The vendor will always sell power seeds the first time you start a character. Buy it if you're playing for the first time or creating a new save
MHFU was absolutely amazing to me when I played it as a kid. Honestly, now it just causes me nothing but pain and frustration. I still appreciate it for the awesome memories of spending 3000+ hours soloing every single quest. It gave me some serious PTSD.
seeing you play this game makes me really happy. its my 1st monster hunter game too
MHFU was my intro to the franchise, back in those days, I was a longsword user and I had friends to play with. They helped me get the True Devil Slicer to beat Tigrex, I think he was most hunter's wall in this game.
My first too.
90% were boring predictable cliche LS users 😴👎
MHFU was my first MH game. And tiggy was my first wall as well. I fell in love with GS then until the OG of the HBG guild came along- Mazeron. His guides taught me about being an effective gunner in the MH community. This is good prep tho. Makes me wanna do a twitch stream of the old ways of MH
This was my first monster hunter, it got me through some hard times
You know that ya're good in MHFU when you can hunt Tigrex in the gear you started in and without any faints.
Man I used to play freedom back in the day played and beat rise and world found this on my vita store man brings back memories
I must say Im proud of you bata you are coming full circle with gun cheese as you use sleep bombing like we all did back then I salute you
I started playing mhfu as well! It is super fun ! And I like that im actually hunter GATHERER and not just a hunter. Also it feels more like an actual hunt because its hard to brute force anything in the game buying the books on monsters in game and learning there patterns to successful be a hunter feels more like hunting and not just flashy attack animations! Sns is weapon I prefer though, maybe when i get to tigrex he wont be so hard !
god i love old monster hunter. i do think world brought allot of necessary changes to combat. i do think things got a bit too crazy in ice borne. then became WAY too much in rise. but if it could be balanced like base world but add all this immersive stuff from the old games it will be the best mh ever imo. (at least my ideal monster hunter)
i understand why old mh might have been too clunky for others. but world was fine. repositioning was still important unlike in rise. the clutch claw and some moves added in iceborne might have been a bit too much but the idea of switch skills from rise to have a more simplified versions of styles is good in my book.
Ah yes, Kut-Ku. The old Monster Hunter zenny farm. Even in MH1, people would gather dung piles for Kut-Ku scales to sell for money.
Lao lung cannon and deathstench armour is gunners dream in unite carried me a long way great video Ang and hammer is very powerful in unite
Wow this is so nice, thank you for sharing!
Played this game like crazy back then. Had problem with first kushala, tried to look for guide on youtube only to find all the "guides" are 4 hunters ganking on one monsters. Good times
There's a traveling peddler at the start of the game I think that sells power seed, I used to buy a piece and expand from there for Power Seed Farming
You can get power seeds at the old granny near the guild house .... she always has some neet things on sale
That’ was my first monster hunter game to play on the psp for me my brother and my cousin all together doing missions it was amazing 🤩
Miss the old outro real bad but love the content dude
You can buy power seeds from the old lady in the village, just a tip.
Great advice from a gunner!
seeing power seed cheese
aaa yes hes start to understand old world stuff, used this alot in the past and still using it now😂
the legendary sleep bombing, being a gunner make you think how to approach stuff👍
Tiggy is known as a gatekeeper on MHFU but damn I love that monster. I wore its armor and didn't know any mix set, just wearing a full set armor feels good specially that silver sol armor
The felyne companions from this installment are more of a pain than help. I got through a couple of thousand hours playing without ever bringing one.
Evade +2 is one of the best skills a gunner can have. As well as autoreload and elemental attack up.
Hitboxes are unforgiving. Incredibly unforgiving.
Goodluck!
What a surprise! Tigrex for me in Rise is the biggest problem I have with bowguns. I even bought a capture card just to show someone who kept telling me to git gud so they can see my mistakes and help me. I then zero carted it. I have yet to zero cart a Tigrex since then on bowguns.
Let me try to give some tips on facing Tigrex with a Light Bowgun; for more casual play, not speedrunning.
First things first, keep your distance. I'd say somewhere around where Normal shot critical distance ends and where Pierce shot critical distance starts is a good distance away.
His main weak point is the head, and that's the only >45 hitzone on him for gunners. The next best spot is his arms, but it's only a hitzone of 35, so it's not your primary spot for damage. Do give them some attention for flinches, however. It's not too hard to get the topple, just takes some work.
When you first get his attention he always roars. Take the opportunity to place some stickies on his head, it only takes a few well placed stickies to get the stun. Be sure to follow the head as he raises it to roar.
His main attack he loves to do is charge, and it can come in a few flavors. Always act on the assumption that he will do two actions minimum in a charge. He loves to do a charge into a spin or a double bite. If you're facing him dead on as he charges you'll want to either Fanning Maneuver to one of his sides, or do two to three evades to the side. If you're at the proper distance you should have plenty of time to avoid the first charge on reaction. Be sure to give him plenty of clearance when he goes for his follow up, the spin has quite a lot of reach. If he double bites it'll be almost instant after the charge, but the spin has him charge it for a second at the end of his charge attack. If he throws rocks one evade to the side should get you in between two of the rocks, it's not hard to avoid as a gunner frankly.
Once you've laid into him a bit he'll enrage. This also always happens with a roar, stay clear of the area right in front of him and you'll be fine. This is around when he'll start doing multiple charges in a row, with follow ups at the end. Same spacing rules apply, just watch what he does and focus on staying out of his reach. His jumps can be annoying but usually rolling towards him takes a lot of the threat out of it. He can do that in his initial state too. Really there's not much more to it than that, avoiding the charges and constantly staying out of spin range keeps you safe from 90% of his kit. Don't try to punish ongoing charges especially when enraged and you should be fine. Eventually he'll tire out and you should have him on the ropes by then.
As for Heavy Bowgun? Sticky cheese him to death and feel no shame while doing it.
I too used a gunner only run in FU once and ceanataur HBG with ceanataur set was very effective all the way to early high rank. You can even kill ShenGaoren and lao before the time runs out.
i remember 2010 Stucking in the Tigrex Quest for half a week, i needed 30 attemps with Great Sword always failed. then hammer and it worked. both were Khezu weapons
If you plan on really finishing the game with the last urgent with Ukanlos, probably the hardest key quest in my opinion is the double black blos. You could maybe get one shot as a gunner, on the other hand, you could probably do way better as a gunner since people cheese blos with pellet since the shots "magnet" towards the tail/tailstub which is a weakspot. Good luck on your MHFU journey! Happy Hunting!
That roar spam and dig combo from g rank black diablos are scary esp if you're near her (blademaster user). That windpress from her digging is annoying. You can really get one shot from her
Back in FU days I cheese everything using the black gravios bowgun and spamming cluster shots. It was nuts. You can also climb any ledges and shoot them safely because the monster can't reach you. Unless they can shoot projectiles. Tigrex was also my first wall. Took me a week to actually kill him. And i cheese it by spamming flashbomb and slamming his head using a hammer.
This game puts the wrath in Rathalos...
Dude doesn't ever quit curb stomping me into the ground.
I see, you get to pass the 1st wall of FU. The Tigrex hunt hahah
Do you have any tips using range weapons? Im not successful with them as aim is hard for me.
Good job. Sleep bombing is a strong strat in the old world. You can "cheese" some really hard quests with it.
i can feel you, my first game was mhfu so i get rekt a lot by tigrex and khezu there, like 30 times on tigrex. looking back beside not much QoL for bowgun nowadays, tigrex arena is small and cramped and one of the side blocked by rocks, no wonder people panick and got killed there, also the nest area, its cramoed af. theres a cheese i found after got beaten a lot, theres 2 area where you can shot tigrex and only worry about boulder throw moves, 1 in the open area after you exit cave, 2nd in the tigrex nest. those highground area make my life easier
i still got beaten a lot tho, back then i just use whatever higher raraity weapon i have, so i use melynx lbg which have rapid fire flame bullet which tigrex resist, not upgrading armor, not want to capture it, not want to use potion because i lack money and resource. after that the rathian and rathalos quest feels A LOT EASIER
0:52 - 'But this is a feeling that I didn't feel when I was playing Rise'
Agreed 100%. I felt I could just brute force my way through Rise and Sunbreak, but in MHFU (just cleared low rank village quest), gahd dayum, every fight is like an endurance test, and preparation makes life 10000% easier, and it feels more rewarding too.
My little bata is growing up.
I'm proud of you son.👨
Create a gathering armor for extra gathering or armor that specialise with carrying thing + stamina - volcano rock/egg worth lot of point and it quick too.
create a combine armor to combine without fear + guarantee multiple ammo/casing per one combine.
Miss that game. I remember fighting a fatalis using a low rank ceanataur set just to whiten my tigrex gs. It takes me 4 quest (it will flee once it get enough damage which still takes me mo than 20 mins) just to kill it lol!
Watch out for the kirin though. Thats one hell of a dragon there.
ahhh the nostalgia,
The Tigrex is a Roadblock that wakes you up and that you need to change things up to be successful.
I was forced to change from my greatsword to farming a lance/Gunlance build with survivability.
When I met the Basarius and Greviuos I took up Bows.
When facing Elder dragons I use Longsword/Sword&shield.
Bruh I remember preparing for yama tsukami for 1 week.
I literally grinded ores to make the juggernaut hammer. Honestly my go to weapon.
Didn't finish MHFU, got into g3 all by myself cause I didn't have no Internet connection😔.
I agree that the new monster hunter games have relatively became easy but I try to go old school and leave the wifi off and carry on playing the game solo. Looking forward to solo Sunbreak!
The double monkey quest lol 💀💀😂😂
I remember using dual blades and dying so many times right when tigrex was about to die
I'm sure FU had over the should aiming beside scoped aiming.
I remember my first wall. Isn't the Tigrex, but the Congalala. Yeah... you heard it. The Congalala was the first wall I wasn't enable to break until I made it by my own way. Now, my new wall is the Rajang and I'm stuck for a long time. I'd like to raise my rank, but I'm also stuck against the Shen Gaoren in multi.
For any new comers to Freedom Unite don't neglect your farm in general, it is tedious at times and yes it will feel slow but its worth it to upgrade and collect everything from the various farm points after each hunt. As you upgrade you naturally get the chance to farm rarer stuff from the different farm points which can save you some time in ore/mushroom/fish/insect collecting but it also gives you more chances to net lower rank items to sell. It may seem insignificant but by the end of low rank you would have multiple stacks of 99 of items like iron ore and honey and what not that you can sell off for good money which helps significantly later on as weapons and armour become more expensive.
I use fast forward everytime I visit the farm on ppsspp
The farm is the most important part of every hunt imo. You won't realize just how much time you can save by it when you unlocked a new equipment and find you're lacking that one resource you need that you can get in the farm, but the best thing about the farm is getting you a ton of money early on to basically make money issues non existent. It's really that good
The farm is the most important part of every hunt imo. You won't realize just how much time you can save by it when you unlocked a new equipment and find you're lacking that one resource you need that you can get in the farm, but the best thing about the farm is getting you a ton of money early on to basically make money issues non existent. It's really that good
First time i beat tigrex was using gunlance..
And that's when i also discovered the wyvern shot too..
lol, thats my 12 y old skill back then
You can get a powerseed earlier for your farm if you buy it from the peddler grandma!
Fighting the Tigrex with Kut-Ku armor is actually surprising
At that point i had the Ioprey Armor and i used the Bow, it was painfull anyway
Tigerex in FU is like the Anganath and Nergigante in World when it first came out. Major choke points for hunters that are still pretty wet.
what bowgun would u recommend for Early game? I just started playing freedom unite
The nostalgia of seeing Kut-Ku's ears folding when it's dying
Tigrex was rough for me back in mhfu
I'm so proud that somebody finally use status ammo that isn't me. I got to sleep bombing by using that sleep ammo is just genius.
Good luck doing the guild quests idk if you can play with others (as was intended) since servers might be shut down due to how old the game is. Sadly it's the only way for G-Rank - the true monster hunter experience.
Do you prefer tapping the zoom button instead of holding the button down?
Tigrex also my first ever wall in mhfu, after a week of trying ang experimenting, i finally beat it with cenatour ds hahaha 😅
The last cheese seems like a purely gunner exclusive, I mean yeah as a greatsword user I probably could make Tigrex eat a sleep meat but its definetly gonna be pretty tough.
I miss old school monster hunter so damn much.
Well, at that time it was my very first MonHun so it's normal it was slower but... You wouldn't bealive how many time took me get to the point I was able to kill a Tigrex... I just can say I was more than 400 hours in when I reach High Rank...
Can relate to the pain, man...
Tigrex was my motivation to get stronger, I really made him pay when I got back on that same gathering quest when I first encountered him😺😺😺 nothing"s more satisfying 😺😺😺
I use his tips and it was nice Zen printing and sleeping tactic actually i didn't do yet but ok
Freedom unite enraged tigrex is a nightmare that still haunts me.
I just wanted to know how to get a lot of worms, for the farm, cuz I only know about the dung in the desert.
Ohhhh good old sleep bombing
Another channel ??? Niceeeeee ..hope to play on9 with all u
Dunno much but if you're a Gunner main then it's understandable that Tigrex would wall you at some point, that thing ALWAYS spams very fast rush attacks when you're far away like you owe him money. A combination of his roar(unless you're wearing earplugs) + the rushing attack will always guarantee a hit from him.
That was pretty good
Ah yes the old school Sleep bomb method.
what Cheese strat i did with the gathering hub urgent vs 2 tigrex was: when both where in the same area i got them near a loading Zone, went the the different area, reload then went back shoot them immediatly like 1-3 shots and rolled Back to the safe area.
the thing is in Freedom Unite when you just got into a loading Zone it Puts you like 1 1/2 rolls away from the loading Zone so.
i am not proud but i was also frustrated with 2 tigrex.
If i'm not mistaken, there's also another 'cheese' method during 2 Lavasioths fight.
Lol that nightmare fight 2 lavasioth I lost many time
Great work! Now do it with HBG XD
Try mh3u next, Pierce hbg ftw 👀
There's a place in map that you can kill it easily using your gun all you have to do is climb to a higher place free hit
Fun fact, Rise quests have an entrance fee. We just don't notice it because we aren't as broke as in FU
Tigrex really was a wall for most of us. when i started playing FU, it was after freedom so i already had a bit of experience and still i couldn't manage to kill it. so i gave up. soon mhp3rd was released and i play thousand of hours of it. and only then, after becoming really good with the game and doing GS naked run against tigrex in P3rd for hours was i ready to go back to FU to kill that wall.
I dont feel like you cheesed the Tigrex. It was the perfect Method for the perfect predicament in your Monster Hunter experience. :D
In my opinion, Its not a wall, if you can still think of new strategies you havent tried yet =). Adapting while "not moving forward" is also progress. Cant wait to play that game :D. Nice video
Ps2 Monster Hunter was hard.
Monster Hunter Freedom Unite felt alot fairier
Will play MHGU and World eventually
any plan for playing mhgu?
I started play back this game on my emulator and idk what I need to do now since it's my first time playing it for a long time. The question is which is better getting new weapons or just improve the basic weapons and armour that can be bought at the merchant?
I am gunlance main
I'm heavy bowgun main
the plesioth hipcheck
funny enough freedom unite was my first monster hunter but i was ass at it then came world and after hundreds of hours in world i managed to deal with FU
nostalgia af