How to Choose The Right Hosel For Your Putter | TrottieGolf
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- Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
- The hosel is one of the most influential parts a putter's design when it comes to fitting the correct style to marry up with your stroke.
In this video discover what I look for on the PGA Tour when guiding the best players in the game into a new putter.
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I’ve never seen someone so passionate about their work. Great video and thanks for the instruction! Keep it coming
Once again Chris your fitter’s expertise puts a whole different layer of insight into this subject. Not seen anyone else explaining the mysteries of putter types and choices as clearly as this. Cheers H WHY HAS THIS MAN ONLY GOT 8.5K SUBSCRIBERS!!!!!
Casually rolling in 15 footers for sport 😂😂
He'd have to be very happy with that video, 2 in a row while explaining putting. Wizard
That six inch leaf tumpling across the green was a beautiful touch.
Trottie is so true to his craft. The best part about this video is the advice that something like putting is so preference and feel based, that you have
to let the person being fitted guide the Fitter...👍
I think the Taylor Made Spider GT lineup of putters with their short slant hosel’s might be the best all around putter for 90% of golfers. I’ve found it to fill a unique niche that blends toe hang with face balance (they do offer single bend hosels, but their short slant hosels give 21 degrees of toe hang irrespective of head shape selection). Most toe hang putters are gonna be 40-ish degrees or more. For a long time your choice was 40 deg or more of toe hang or almost none in a face balanced design. I’m sure there’s other companies out there that offer it, but Taylor Made’s Spider GT lineup w/ the short slant hosel has blown me away. Super super high build quality & materials combined with brilliant technology. I never even gave Taylor Made putters the time of day until picking one up and being stunned. They’re not on the level of a Scotty, but they’re absolutely a step up in class from the Stroke Labs and “OG White Hot Stroke Labs”. I’d even argue they’re better than the Tri-Hots (hard to compare any fully milled, insert-less putter to them… diff vibes). I’m my humble opinion, Taylor Made is making the best putters using inserts. The material of the insert, angles, etc are phenomenal. Lastly, their use of weighting materials and locations on diff models is ingenious. This coming from a guy who 2 years ago would’ve never imagined owning a TM putter… It’s now my go to gamer and fav series/lineup (specifically the 2022 Spider GT series). It can be confusing as they have a few diff series’s. The Spider GT (regular), GT Rollback, GT Splitback, and GT Notchback have something for everyone.
I thought i knew a lot about putter balance but you've taught me a lot here. Would love to get a proper fitting with someone like you
Getr done!
I used to use Which Hosel as an astringent to clean my face as a teenager. Refreshing.
Loved the calm tone of this video, also the 🎤 sound is on point now, doesn't sound like you are shouting anymore 🙌🏼 Can't wait for the new Spiders
Yup got the 🎙 dialed now, appreciate your patience
I learned I was using the wrong putter for 19 years. My gamer was a 2000 Odyssey White Hot #2 blade until getting fitted in 2019. Learned most blades had way too much toe hang and arc for my stroke and the ideal putter for me was a 34” mallet/mid-mallet w/ between 10-40 degrees of toe hang (my White Hot #2 was a 33”… I’m 6 ft w/o shoes on… so 6’1” to 6’2” w shoes on). After getting fitted I bought a 34” Odyssey Stroke Lab #7s (37 degrees of toe hang if I remember correctly). Massive improvement over the old blade. However, after experimenting further I realized THE PUTTER for me was a 34” Taylor Made Spider GT Rollback mallet w/ a slant hosel (vs the “fang style mallet”) with steel shaft, less toe hang (21 degrees), and rear/perimeter weighting. It was/is magic. The Stroke Lab 7s was/is great… But the 7s being predominantly toe/heel weighted w/ an extra 17 degrees of toe hang wasn’t helping my natural stroke as much as the Spider GT. The proof was shaving around a dozen strokes off my score. That’s massive. Putter and wedges are the most important clubs in the bag as they comprise around half of your shots per round. And I can say with 100% assuredness that your Driver is the least important. I hit my Driver 9 times a round. MAYBE. Sometimes less if it’s not a long course (I hit 3 wood off the tee on all par 4’s under 400 yards… but that’s not a firm rule either… I hit my 14.5 degree 3 wood about 275 and my 19 degree 3H around 240… both being significantly more accurate… length without accuracy is meaningless).
I like this b/c in my experience whether a putter has toe hang or not has no bearing on how I putt with it. So I was happy to hear you say that it really doesn't matter too much for certain styles of putting (i.e. where the eyes are specifically). Very interesting stuff - but it really had nothing to do with hosels did it? LoL
Great video loads of info so enlightening
Trott you’re a legend mate
Straight back at ya fella
Great advice as always Trottie 👍
Such a great explanation! Thanks 👍
Absolutely brilliant mate!
Very helpful. Simple and to the point and not…nerdy or scientific. 😉
I learned I should be using toe hang most likely. Eyes inside guy.
Minimal Science, don't do nerdy!
@@trottiegolf Pushing right all the time,, what hosel?
@@jeffc1736 short slant
@@trottiegolf New to golf and confused: but if a golfer gets a wiggly stroke(inconsistent) doesn't a heavy head make sense? Conversely, it reduces feel for long putts? Is this why TM usually uses 365g for their putters, a happy medium?
@@jeffc1736 I think we're 355g head weights. Just set up with solid foundations and rock from the shoulders, that's the key. Solid base & shoulder rock
Great video. So interesting!
Brilliant
No misses!😉
Super helpful! I wonder why Toe-Up / Torque Balanced / Stroke Balanced putters where the face points towards the target aren’t mentioned more.
Great walkthrough! What was that putter you used at the end? Looked great! Like a boxy Ardmore?!
Thanks Trottie! I was trying to fix my stroke. Problem is I can’t see the line, when my eyes are over the ball
@Ryan.
Look up Mike Malaska video on eye alignment, he dispel the myth of having eyes over ball
The best Knowledge.
Thanks for the great tips!! Which bend would work best if you typically like to slightly forward press? Plumbers neck, short bend, Double bend etc... I typically have my eyes directly over the ball and swing straight back & straight threw or is bend personal preference? Sound and video quality is on point!!
Good news on the sound, glad to hear I got that sorted. You're going to need more loft if you have a press which is going to make the blade appear closed when the putter sits in a neutral position. Hosel preference comes from there and as a result of the closed I'd want to see you in something with a shaft offset & based on the fact that you said you're straight back straight through would guide me to the face balanced long neck option plumbers style..... Keep in mind I'm doing this blind, if I saw you stroke it and talked it through I might change my answer.... hope that helps
@@trottiegolf Thanks Chris, I really appreciate it. I know you're doing it blind but I still appreciate the input. If there's a way I could send you a video and you're willing to check it out please feel free to email me or let me know how I could contact you. I know your time is worth money. jdutch1977@gmail.com
my round pro needs to be updated with the new clubs my p7mb's are not in the data base
Is there a hosel to match my figure of 8 stroke?
Depends how big that 8 is? If it’s tight then you got options either way
The training aid you had on the putter face. Puttdots right?
Thanks for great video & layman explanation of different hosels, need some advice, I'm right handed 6 foot, but due to an accident only have sight in my left eye, I seem to have straight back & forward swing, occasionally small arc, been thinking of trying EX spider, advice on neck type? I stand back from the ball slightly when putting, many thanks & greetings from Ireland
left eye for me gives you more room for freedom of choice on the hosels, if you're happy releasing the blade then start at short slant. Personally I think it looks the cleanest.
@@trottiegolf thanks so much for your reply really appreciated, I'll give it a try, hope to go to golf store this Thursday to try few, was hoping to check about getting custom fitted, but costs around €100,!, am I better to go by feel really etc,? Thanks again for your great advice
2/2 lengthy putts go in and you don’t even flinch. Lol.
Great video! I tend to miss to the right, because my putter face is open at impact. What type of hosel would you advice ?Tkx.
I like toe hang if that's your miss but always better to see your stroke before I commit 100% to my answer
about to start looking into first purchased putter- away from friends ping craz-e putter g2i.
Liking the look of mallets- as like weight. How do you decide which neck on the putter you need and also length of putter ?
Thanks
It's all in these videos. Give yourself 30 mins & watch the putter guidance videos & you'll be sorted
This is a great video, thanks! Of course I have a question like most here... I always thought I was looking over the top of ball, but after trying that exercise you did, I'm actually inside by a few inches. My swing path is fairly straight... I have a small arc that I never noticed before until focusing on it after this video.
I have noticed I arc a little more on longer putts. Is there a hosel recommendation you would have for something like this? I've been looking at the Spider EX lately and was torn. Thanks again for posting these videos!
Short slant on spider ex sounds perfect or you go with the plumbers neck as that’ll slant a fraction less
@@trottiegolf Thanks a lot!
@@trottiegolf what do u recommend for someone that likes to foward press like Phil Michaelson? Toe hang or face balance?
@@EE-ie9gm I recommend loft!! Degree hang from there would depend on stroke type
@@trottiegolf I like the putter head to be hooded on the way back and thru
Ok.... Chris I'm more closer to my Odyssey putter the head is similar to Phil Mickelson's putter head it's standard 34 but some how..I feel like I still need to check it like I need a 33.5 cuz it works for me I can hit shot puts and long puts. So do you think I need to change something here?
Stop that. 🔥
Hello Chris I’ve never really checked out what putter I use but my stroke is straight back and through. Today I checked my putter it’s a blade with toe hang and weights in the bottom. Can I change the weights to change the toe hang or is that the wrong thing to do? Great video
No as the blade center of gravity will overrule that
You’d need a face balance putter or the new Spider GT Max
@@trottiegolf cheers Chris I’ll have a look at one
@@trottiegolf thank Chris got myself a hydro blast Bandon 3 putter. Looks sweet and the ball flies off the face without out hitting it hard. Had a round yesterday and did a lot of two putting and a good couple of one putts. Thanks again great putter
So assuming the set up is correct, is the putter length measured to the top of the left wrist
Yea not a bad gauge, or just a fraction longer
Great Vid as always. What about Putter length?? I'm 6"2" and never know if I should be 34 or 35" length??
I’ll get to that I reckon.... gotta be a popular request 🤷🏻♂️
@@trottiegolf a video on length would be great 👍😀
Wow, great info. Thanks!
i’m really drawn to the spider tour but i’m torn between double bend and short slant. I usually stand over the ball and am a straight back straight through but going from a blade to the tour im thinking short slant? Any advice?
Obv try them but everything you're saying points to the face balanced option
@@trottiegolf yes just went to try out the hosels today and you’re spot on - you’re the man trottie👍🏼
@@sidslasher 👊🏻
which neck + hosel has the least amount of toe hang (that's not a double bend / center shaft / single bend)? I'm doing a custom refinish on a face balanced mallet putter w/ a double bend shaft; in general I have a VERY slight arc, just barely enough to deviate from straight back and through... is the small slant that Chris used at the end the best design? I think I would like 10-20 degrees of toe hang ideally
Plumbers neck
@@trottiegolf what's your new gamer? gtx? gt max?
@@cleverpeasant-jn7iw currently in a Del Monte but it's on thin ice 🤣
What would be the argument for choosing centershaft over heel shaft in a face balanced putter? Is it how much you are over the ball with your eyes?
Yes & then path & how much you want that center connection to help guide your path. I will add though a heel shaft single bend fave balanced is much more efficient that a center shaft on off center strikes. That would be the main driver in that decision if you're on the fence.
@@trottiegolf thanks😊👍 Will def take that into consideration when trying new putters out (when the lockdown ends)😊
Hi can I ask, I'm left eye dominant would you suggest face balanced or toe hang putter, I'm 6ft 1 and my eye line is inside with 34 in shaft, What do you suggest with putter type and length?
Stroke preference dependent and arm length specific but I'd go longer & being left eye dominant you have choice on the toe hang in my opinion but I'd suggest face balanced.... BUT there are certainly more variables to consider.
@@trottiegolf hi thanks for reply
i have just tried my face balanced putter and got some one to check and my stroke is inside to square to square . I did the drop ball from left eye and i confirm my eyes are inside, and i tend to push my putts. I have been looking at taylormade fcg putter, what hosel type would you suggest? or would a blade style work with which hosel?, i have tried many types of putter over time, i play on slower greens in the uk, not the best, but would love a great putter, help please.
@@karldann3107 like I said tough without seeing it but with this new info I like FCG short slant for you... short hosel.... forward CG & copper insert I’m sure will be a ripper
@karldann from what I’ve seen someone who is left eye dominant has more options or should I say the potential to have more options. This one depends on how you release it and what you want to feel
So if I am pushing the ball to the right, I need a face balance putter correct?
People who push the ball consistently to the right most likely see with 'their' eyes, standing the way they are standing, their putter pointing what they believe to be straight, but it is actually pointed right of target. Such people, think Jack Nicklaus, often are able to better aim the putter's face, if they open their stance, sometimes substantially, and get their head behind the ball so what they see with their eyes now is correct and thus their aim is better. If you are at a putting green, have a friend stand behind you and move around and randomly try five different putts, without using the line on the ball, and just when you are ready to hit, have your friend tell you exactly where the putter is aimed - most often it will be right. As Trottie mentioned, if you are right eye dominant, (less than perfect left eye), it is almost guaranteed that a more open stance, like Nicklaus, with head behind and inside the ball, will help you match your eyes with your aim.
@@wallstreetoneil except for the fact that Jack Nicklaus is LEFT Eye Dominant.
IF you are actually Aimed Correctly, without a "Right Aim" Bias, then YES, Face Balance, or LESS Toe Flow/Hang than your current Putter will bring the Ball Roll more to the "Pull" side.
Toe Flow/Hang SLOWS the Rate of Closure of the Putter Face in the Forward Swing, thus TOO Much Toe Flow/Hang will result in "Pushes".
thought this was about hosel??? how did we end up with another toe hang video..
Hosel impacts toe hang .... 🤚🏻 in 🤚🏻 PLYR
@@trottiegolf oh ok. See i meant what does plumbers vs straight, vs single bend, vs etc.. what does that do for putters? Is it all sight line or something else?
Thanks
@@tylerfj24 they impact toe hang, which impacts face rotation, which should be matched up to stroke type...