Fun Fact: Bernstein was Shostakovich's favorite American conductor. They met in Moscow in 1959 when Bernstein brought the NY Phil there to perform his 5th Symphony, and then made a great recording of it for CBS. It was classy of Lenny to not brag about meeting the composer and discussing his music with him.
Right in the middle of the Cold War period Leonard Bernstein took the NYP to Moscow, and as far as I know there was a guest performance of Moscow's Bolschoy Theatre in America about the same time. That's how it should be: When tensions rise there should be people to work against them. Leonard Bernstein was one of them.
To all those wondering about Dvorak’s new world: for a long time, and during much of Bernstein’s lifetime, it was actually known as “symphony no. 5” because 4 of his symphonies were not published during his lifetime and not integrated into the repertoire until relatively recently.
@@AndreyRubtsovRU You're kidding yourself or you're ignorant if you think Dvorak was anything less than a first rate composer. Easily the equal of Brahms.
"a solo bassoon responds to this severe challenge with a very personal answer" --- "and again the bassoon replies, shaking his head" ---- "same mournful bassoon, very very slyly, slinks into a catchy little tune" immortal analysis 😄
More than 40 years ago I learnt about Leonard Bernstein listening the performance of Mendelson's symphonies recorded on the vinyl disc. In USSR it was easy to find vinyl discs with the world famous classical music.
I heard this (maybe not true), Shosty's humor actually makes him an "enemy of the people" by Stalin, because it was too circusy, not appropriate for the end of the war.
@@ashiapmanman Well, the enemies of the people were executed. SHostakovich was lucky, he became just a bad composer and was prohibited and sent to the countryside for the next 8 years until the death of Stalin. However, as Bernstein said, this is just a musical joke, because the people after war felt liberty -- nobody has expected, that Stalin became more cruel again.
@@Edgelordess "Nose" is the name of N.V. Gogol's mystic story written in the 1-st half of XIX-th century, you can find it here: en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Nose_(Gogol/Field) . It's ubicated in Russian school programms. The most curious, that this style is denomined a typical exmple of realism.
Louis Armstrong, Clifford Brown, Coltrane, Elvis, The Beatles, Sting, J.S. Bach, Mahler, and Bernstein...all my musical heroes/ Gods. Lenny was so talented, smart, and had a great understanding of "The Big Picture." I could listen to him talk about any subject all day long.
Today I wrote my German A-Level Exam (called Abitur) in Music about Schostakowitsch's 9. Symphony, 1. Movement. And I wrote amasingly much Mr Bernstein also said. Now I feel proud :D (and I hope the person who corrects my exam watches this video)
Wonderful! Those like me who do not have much exposure to Western Classical Music (and with our rooting in Indian Classical Music often interfering with our own expectations and interpretations) this is a very valuable set of talks/lectures. Actually this collection is a treasure house. Thanks for the upload
The western modes are basically analogous to the seven note scales found in Indian Classical music. It is a joy to come to the realization that all music is the same. There is only one type of music, but many types of people.
@thegameslayer2966 consider the time it was written. The world was finally exhaling after holding it's collective breath for so many years. He was expressing the relief that everyone was feeling.
Incredible wisdom! So thankful that generation after generation get to hear these great videos from this OUTSTANDING conductor, teacher and GREAT composer 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏❤️
I feel a great metaphor for this symphony is that meme of two overlapping images of Steve Harvey, one where he is laughing his ass off, and the other where he looks deeply concerned over something. lol
I want a commentary from Lenny on all music I listen to... ahh, notice how Cobain subtly supplants the fourth with a peculiar and pathos-filled ninth... truly a unique and personal touch, so characteristic of the composer... Truly, Leonard is the Bob Ross of musical education
9th was Vaughan Williams last symphony but was written in the late 1950s. A very dark and anxious symphony, unlike that of Shostakovich. Usually it's the other way around.
Vaughan Williams defined British music and changed symphonic music forever. I consider him a great composer for his lasting influence on film music, his dedication to folk music preservation, and his defiance against the long-exhausted teutonic tropes of European classical music. He captured the essence of war better than almost any composer in his 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 6th symphonies... which are diverse masterpieces ranging from hauntingly gorgeous, furiously brooding and atonal, and blissfully sublime. He also crafted a sound more distinct than most composers ever could, using unique harmony and modes to create shockingly beautiful music I believe deserves more respect. His 9th is absolutely stunning, a different kind of 9th from a different kind of composer that deserves more recognition. The piece isn't meant to be a 9th of 9ths, as Bernstein puts it, but more of a solemn and heart-breaking goodbye as well as a conclusion to work. Very good piece, go listen to it if you haven't. To people who've listened to all of Vaughan Williams's works, this one packs an extra punch. Again, highly recommend.
@@andreistoriei2050 Yes, I like Bernstein's analysis but it's strange how often British music gets overlooked. You mention VW but there is also a 9th symphony of Edmund Rubbra (1972), Havergal Brian (1951) and Alun Hoddinott (1992).
For an also also interresting analysis of Shostakovich's motives, I encourage you to watch Tantacruls video about him (Shostakovich - How to Compose Music Despite [ R E D A C T E D ])
Bernstein visited Moscow at the climax of the Cold War directing Schostakovich's 'Leningradskaya'. What a great man. One of the few people that really contributed to the benefit of mankind - regardless from any political idiotism.
Agree on Antonin's "New World". I also admire Vaughan Williams' moving 9th in e minor, written at the end of life. Also want to mention the neglected Joachim Raff (1822-1882), credited with 11 symphonies--very popular in their day--plus 6 operas that were never produced!
Great music, not really a great symphony, though, nor strictly mainstream as a symphony, either. Up until Mahler, symphonies in the 'correct' sense tended to be the province of teutons (not including Czechs). After Mahler, they rather gave up on the form and at this point the 'mainstream' of symphonies progressed more internationally, for example with Sibelius, Vaughan-Williams and, of course, Shostakovich.
Dvořak not included??? Since when? And did this sweeping dismissal of non-teutonic symphonic composers include Tchaikovsky? I find it difficult to associate Bernstein with prejudice on this scale!
In a 1966 Young People's Concert, Bernstein presented analysis and performance of the Shostakovich Ninth - this is a re-do. In his last years Bernstein began a series of analysis/performance videos but only did two more beside this, one of Shostakovich's Sixth and one of Ives' Second.
What a slap in the face his 9th must have been after his 8th. But in retrospect, we can understand the passive aggression. I'm sure people were anticipating something like his 12th. But even that takes the forced positivism of his 5th to a new extreme.
Some of the first movement reminds me of Spartacus, the entry of Crassus, I wonder if Shostakovich was inspired by Khachaturian, they spent some time together in Georgia. Or vice versa, most likely Khachaturian borrowed it from Shostakovich as the 9th symphony was most likely first
Shostakovich was luckier than many great composers because he passed the Symphony no 9 destiny. Meanwhile, Beethoven, Schubert, Bruckner, Dvorak, Mahler and Vaughan Williams couldn't.
Vietnamese Bomber Yes, I know. And I don't think Beethoven would have been satisfied with the two movements that have been completed for him using his sketches. To my ear they're rather aimless. I appreciate that he'd achieved a degree of personal peace in his later years, but there's no real struggle left, especially in the second movement with its recall of the slow movement theme from the Pathétique piano sonata. Beethoven without struggle doesn't sound like Beethoven!
I'm sorry for Beethoven. Perhaps God felt the the great meaning of the Symphony no 9 and he thought that it was enough so he took Beethoven out of life.
I think of Schubert's 9th : He knew exactly how good he was "I am composing like a god, as if it simply had to be done as it has been done." ths plus numerous others suggested he knew exactly how good he was
Chaplin is such a potent reference .. in grainy black and white playing both eternal vagabond and dancing with the world on his fingertips as Hitler himself....
What's about Antonin Dvorak and Nikolai Myaskovsky? Dvorak wrote his 9th symphony in 1893 and Myaskovsky did it in 1927. Both are widely regarded as great composers. And their 9ths are beautiful compositions.
Jennifer Benson he's obviously aware of those, especially Dvorak's, it's really a masterpiece. I think he does not mention it because he just wants to make his point about the pressure of the 9th; which is true I think.
AIUI, Dvorak regarded his first three or four symphonies as "practice"; IIRC, they weren't published in his lifetime, and the "New World" Symphony went out (I think) as No. 5.
@Saint Martin of Tours Catholic Church Just asking: do you know Bernstein or something? Because all the documentaries about him make the impression that he was not a lazy person, in fact a very hardworking person.
Noobovitch shostakovich didn't, try to listen to the 2nd movement of his first cello concerto. the beginning is a literal quote from the beginning of Dvorak's 9th.
When I listen to Bruckner’s 9th symphony, I can help thinking about the 3th Reich and Hitler, it really associates to that time in history, I think....
All hail the comic little protagonist J. Alfred Prufrock, Chaplin, Walter Mitty etc. After All when was the last time you woke up feeling like Alaxander, or Nepolean?
My Uncle Nanni Ricordi in the very early 80s was about to do a JV Then aborted because D. G had an apoling recording policy///// they maintain that there was no need to have high quality Recording since the average listener was using a Grunding.
Haydn wrote a staggering 104 complete symphonies in his lifetime, but most of them don't deviate very far from a very predictable formula when it comes to structure or instrumentation. I've heard the same joke told in a different way about Vivaldi's concertos. The joke is that all of Haydn's work is quite pleasant, and often funny, enough, but listening to five Haydn symphonies is like listening to one symphony played slightly differently five times in a row. This is in stark contrast to some of Haydn's symphonic successors, like Mozart, Schubert, and especially Beethoven, whose works (most people agree) are many times more ambitious.
+Sebastian Wang Sorry, but if you think Hayden’s symphonies are predictable you clearly haven’t heard a single one of them. Haydn might be the most unpredictable composer there is.
Hi hope someday technology is advanced enough to somehow clone Bernstein to the state just before he died, with all his memories and the true belief that he would just have been there dying just seconds ago yet in fact 30 years ago... help him stay live for about another 50 years and enjoy his performance and educative videos like he does best and loves it. Maybe one day he will read this comment and laugh at its consistency, but also laugh because I was wrong: he won't just live 50 more years, he knows that his consciousness and mind can just always be uploaded on a robiological new body and still have a individual sense of continuity. He will virtually be immortal, or at least medically. So will be for all the fortunate people on earth. But we'll have to make less children than... or find another world to live in, be it underground or something... ok bye
The number nine is a very interesting number because in binary notation it has (1001) which symbolizes the devil, two horns and two eyes in the middle.
I like Leonard Bernstein quite a bit, but his talk about composers and numbers of symphonies at 9 or higher between Mahler and Shostakovich is factually wrong. For example, one of my favourite 20th century symphonists, Julius Röntgen, wrote TWENTY-FIVE.
"After Mahler, none of the succeeding twentieth century symphonists got past their seventh or eighth. ...until Dmitri Shostakovich." Doesn't Miaskovsky count?
Mr Inman I know who Miaskovsky is, but insofar as well-remembered composers, he ranks near the bottom. His students are well-remembered (Khachaturian and the like), but the last time I saw his name for a live performance of his music was in 2010.
We minions can think what we like, but if the aim is to understand what influenced Shostakovich, then the point is this: Bernstein seemed to suggest that the notion of writing a ninth symphony was daunting to a composer post-war because nobody had done it for a long time. There is plenty of documented evidence to suggest that Shostakovich knew and respected Miaskovsky as a composer, so it is doubtful he would have seen this as "a path untrodden since the Great Romantics".
Fun Fact: Bernstein was Shostakovich's favorite American conductor. They met in Moscow in 1959 when Bernstein brought the NY Phil there to perform his 5th Symphony, and then made a great recording of it for CBS. It was classy of Lenny to not brag about meeting the composer and discussing his music with him.
American conductors? how many in the 50s?
Right in the middle of the Cold War period Leonard Bernstein took the NYP to Moscow, and as far as I know there was a guest performance of Moscow's Bolschoy Theatre in America about the same time. That's how it should be: When tensions rise there should be people to work against them. Leonard Bernstein was one of them.
Shostakovitch live listen Bernstein conduct the 7th to
@@sarahjones-jf4prnot that many
To all those wondering about Dvorak’s new world: for a long time, and during much of Bernstein’s lifetime, it was actually known as “symphony no. 5” because 4 of his symphonies were not published during his lifetime and not integrated into the repertoire until relatively recently.
Thanks. I did wonder about why he skipped Dvorak.
So Bernstein was a bit ignorant
Forgot Ralph Vaughan Williams and Malcolm Arnold as well. They also wrote 9 symphonies.
@@omegamale7880 well, he was talking about first rate composers 😂😂😂
@@AndreyRubtsovRU You're kidding yourself or you're ignorant if you think Dvorak was anything less than a first rate composer. Easily the equal of Brahms.
I love Bernstein's voice. What an amazing teacher he was....
@GreyGear Indeed he was. I was a student of his (and I still consider myself one thanks to the magic of the Internet...)
warsd4 I agree with you! What a voice!
His voice was a bit ravaged by this point by years of smoking, but yes an amazing man and voice.
Whenever I think of the latter half of the 20th century when it comes to the terms of classical, my mind always thinks of Bernstein and Gould.
it was even better before becoming obviously distressed from a lifetime of smoking
How tragic that we have lost Bernstein at age only 72. What a great man! Thank you for the upload.
Chain smoking and long living don’t go along...
@@jakeforrest 72 is pretty long, it's the average for the time
@@jakeforrest Better to die at72yrs ,with such a rich life than linger into 80 and 90s with nothing but pain and misery.
@@jakeforrest alcholol as well
@@andreaguarino8207 Put down that drink and learn to spell "alcohol".
Superb analysis. Bernstein was an excellent commentator on such music.
True, but (luvvie alert) part of the joy of Bernstein was that, while he made and illustrated his points wonderfully, he still made the odd mistake.
Cant agrre
100% - there’s always a sense of privilege in hearing what he has to say.
"a solo bassoon responds to this severe challenge with a very personal answer" --- "and again the bassoon replies, shaking his head" ---- "same mournful bassoon, very very slyly, slinks into a catchy little tune" immortal analysis 😄
brilliant speculation indeed :) 'no-no, we don't go there'
More than 40 years ago I learnt about Leonard Bernstein listening the performance of Mendelson's symphonies recorded on the vinyl disc. In USSR it was easy to find vinyl discs with the world famous classical music.
I love Shosty's humor. I'm sure Stalin loved it too.
He might have enjoyed it when it wasn't directed at him, but yeah.
I heard this (maybe not true), Shosty's humor actually makes him an "enemy of the people" by Stalin, because it was too circusy, not appropriate for the end of the war.
I mean once you create an opera called the "nose", your basically one dark comedian as well as musician.
@@ashiapmanman Well, the enemies of the people were executed. SHostakovich was lucky, he became just a bad composer and was prohibited and sent to the countryside for the next 8 years until the death of Stalin. However, as Bernstein said, this is just a musical joke, because the people after war felt liberty -- nobody has expected, that Stalin became more cruel again.
@@Edgelordess "Nose" is the name of N.V. Gogol's mystic story written in the 1-st half of XIX-th century, you can find it here: en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Nose_(Gogol/Field) .
It's ubicated in Russian school programms. The most curious, that this style is denomined a typical exmple of realism.
Louis Armstrong, Clifford Brown, Coltrane, Elvis, The Beatles, Sting, J.S. Bach, Mahler, and Bernstein...all my musical heroes/ Gods.
Lenny was so talented, smart, and had a great understanding of "The Big Picture."
I could listen to him talk about any subject all day long.
Today I wrote my German A-Level Exam (called Abitur) in Music about Schostakowitsch's 9. Symphony, 1. Movement.
And I wrote amasingly much Mr Bernstein also said. Now I feel proud :D (and I hope the person who corrects my exam watches this video)
Corvinsound meanwhile I wrote my a level in fucking economics since we had no choice ..
Meanwhile I did no a-levels because I was too busy actually listening to the music.
i don't even live in germany lol
Wonderful!
Those like me who do not have much exposure to Western Classical Music (and with our rooting in Indian Classical Music often interfering with our own expectations and interpretations) this is a very valuable set of talks/lectures.
Actually this collection is a treasure house.
Thanks for the upload
The western modes are basically analogous to the seven note scales found in Indian Classical music. It is a joy to come to the realization that all music is the same. There is only one type of music, but many types of people.
Bernstein's insight is fascinating. It's not so much a matter of right or wrong, but his own penetrating understanding of the music he discusses.
shostakovich's 9th is the most sarcastic piece ever written
Including Mozart’s “Ein musikalischer Spaß”?
@@btat16 damn thats even better
@@btat16 i mean, this piece is more of a contextual sarcasm than a musical joke.
@thegameslayer2966 consider the time it was written. The world was finally exhaling after holding it's collective breath for so many years. He was expressing the relief that everyone was feeling.
Incredible wisdom! So thankful that generation after generation get to hear these great videos from this OUTSTANDING conductor, teacher and GREAT composer 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏❤️
I feel a great metaphor for this symphony is that meme of two overlapping images of Steve Harvey, one where he is laughing his ass off, and the other where he looks deeply concerned over something. lol
Tfw you write a sarcastic 9th Symphony but Stalin thinks you insulted him
tbh that's shostakovich's career in a nutshell
@@instinctbrosgaming9699 shostakovich knew that he was insulting stalin. wasn't that the whole point of it?
I want a commentary from Lenny on all music I listen to... ahh, notice how Cobain subtly supplants the fourth with a peculiar and pathos-filled ninth... truly a unique and personal touch, so characteristic of the composer...
Truly, Leonard is the Bob Ross of musical education
Try Rick Beato for that sort of thing.
9th was Vaughan Williams last symphony but was written in the late 1950s. A very dark and anxious symphony, unlike that of Shostakovich. Usually it's the other way around.
Vaughan Williams defined British music and changed symphonic music forever. I consider him a great composer for his lasting influence on film music, his dedication to folk music preservation, and his defiance against the long-exhausted teutonic tropes of European classical music. He captured the essence of war better than almost any composer in his 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 6th symphonies... which are diverse masterpieces ranging from hauntingly gorgeous, furiously brooding and atonal, and blissfully sublime. He also crafted a sound more distinct than most composers ever could, using unique harmony and modes to create shockingly beautiful music I believe deserves more respect. His 9th is absolutely stunning, a different kind of 9th from a different kind of composer that deserves more recognition. The piece isn't meant to be a 9th of 9ths, as Bernstein puts it, but more of a solemn and heart-breaking goodbye as well as a conclusion to work. Very good piece, go listen to it if you haven't. To people who've listened to all of Vaughan Williams's works, this one packs an extra punch. Again, highly recommend.
@@andreistoriei2050 Yes, I like Bernstein's analysis but it's strange how often British music gets overlooked. You mention VW but there is also a 9th symphony of Edmund Rubbra (1972), Havergal Brian (1951) and Alun Hoddinott (1992).
Great man, I love his voice, amazing command of English, and convincing, interesting he explains complex things.
A giant!
0:39 Wait, Bernstein is Yoda?
Nope...he is actually Mystique from XMen having some fun 0.47
Yes, Bernstein is Yoda. And he does yoga. Peace.
Yoda was Bernstein.
No Yoda IS Bernstein
... you're a comedian .... :)
For an also also interresting analysis of Shostakovich's motives, I encourage you to watch Tantacruls video about him (Shostakovich - How to Compose Music Despite [ R E D A C T E D ])
That video is amazing.
tantacrul* but yeah he's great
I'm here because of that, and I assure you I'm going to watch it many more times
That is a great analysis. I encourage everyone to watch it
sometimes I wish Shostakovich really wrote a massive 9th of 9ths. just to see what he could’ve given out and put in
Nothing exceeds or surpasses DSCH13
Bernstein visited Moscow at the climax of the Cold War directing Schostakovich's 'Leningradskaya'. What a great man. One of the few people that really contributed to the benefit of mankind - regardless from any political idiotism.
Among other titanic talents, Bernstein is an outstanding lecturer. Riveting!
What an American legend....bygone era?...class, intellect, passion, long list of talents and personality...
Leonard Bernstein is Mister Rogers, but with music.
Fred Rogers was a composer, too.
I can think of no one less like Fred Rogers than Leonard Bernstein.
Genialne razlage gospoda Bernsteina. Najboljši učitelj! Poslušati in razumeti .
Eruditely great teacher and an entertaining story-teller.
...que gran docente fue el maestro Bernstein
He forgot Dvorak's 9th.
mozart also have a 9th
People seem to forget Dvorak which I do not understand. He is as good as anyone else. His music is absolutely beautiful!
Agree on Antonin's "New World". I also admire Vaughan Williams' moving 9th in e minor, written at the end of life. Also want to mention the neglected Joachim Raff (1822-1882), credited with 11 symphonies--very popular in their day--plus 6 operas that were never produced!
Great music, not really a great symphony, though, nor strictly mainstream as a symphony, either. Up until Mahler, symphonies in the 'correct' sense tended to be the province of teutons (not including Czechs). After Mahler, they rather gave up on the form and at this point the 'mainstream' of symphonies progressed more internationally, for example with Sibelius, Vaughan-Williams and, of course, Shostakovich.
Dvořak not included??? Since when? And did this sweeping dismissal of non-teutonic symphonic composers include Tchaikovsky? I find it difficult to associate Bernstein with prejudice on this scale!
O γίγαντας Μπερνσταϊν αναλύει με απλότητα και σαφήνεια τη συμφωνική μουσική...πολύ διδακτικές οι συνεντεύξεις του!
In a 1966 Young People's Concert, Bernstein presented analysis and performance of the Shostakovich Ninth - this is a re-do. In his last years Bernstein began a series of analysis/performance videos but only did two more beside this, one of Shostakovich's Sixth and one of Ives' Second.
What a slap in the face his 9th must have been after his 8th. But in retrospect, we can understand the passive aggression. I'm sure people were anticipating something like his 12th. But even that takes the forced positivism of his 5th to a new extreme.
Yes it was gung-ho and (apparently) nationalistic, but the 12th isn't one of Shostakovich's greatest symphonies.
He waited to celebrate with his tenth till after that wonderful day in 1953 when Stalin died.
Final words in this video was the joke said with serious face.
Ja ras 1
grand maestros-dmitrij and lenny, eternal!!!
Bravo! Bernstein is the best commentator of all (besides being the greatest American conductor).
I read that Shos had played piano versions of Haydn symphonies with friends before he wrote the Ninth. Lenny was a genius teacher! Great conductor!
Some of the first movement reminds me of Spartacus, the entry of Crassus, I wonder if Shostakovich was inspired by Khachaturian, they spent some time together in Georgia. Or vice versa, most likely Khachaturian borrowed it from Shostakovich as the 9th symphony was most likely first
He just gets it, man.
Love insightful interpretations of music.
Shostakovich was luckier than many great composers because he passed the Symphony no 9 destiny. Meanwhile, Beethoven, Schubert, Bruckner, Dvorak, Mahler and Vaughan Williams couldn't.
Vietnamese Bomber, it's not that Beethoven couldn't - he established it in the first place, although he began work on his tenth as well.
Peter Brodie But you know the Symphony no 10 by Beethoven was unfinished and now so many people don't know it.
Vietnamese Bomber Yes, I know. And I don't think Beethoven would have been satisfied with the two movements that have been completed for him using his sketches. To my ear they're rather aimless. I appreciate that he'd achieved a degree of personal peace in his later years, but there's no real struggle left, especially in the second movement with its recall of the slow movement theme from the Pathétique piano sonata. Beethoven without struggle doesn't sound like Beethoven!
I'm sorry for Beethoven. Perhaps God felt the the great meaning of the Symphony no 9 and he thought that it was enough so he took Beethoven out of life.
Hoàng Kim Việt he died of lead poisoning from excessive wine consuming.not a heavenly way to die
Its wierd that Bernstein was almost 40 when the 9th came out
He was 27, I think
Bernstein died after writing 3 symphonies
Thanks for uploading!
I think of Schubert's 9th : He knew exactly how good he was "I am composing like a god, as if it simply had to be done as it has been done." ths plus numerous others suggested he knew exactly how good he was
This old man is so charming...
Chaplin is such a potent reference .. in grainy black and white playing both eternal vagabond and dancing with the world on his fingertips as Hitler himself....
What's about Antonin Dvorak and Nikolai Myaskovsky? Dvorak wrote his 9th symphony in 1893 and Myaskovsky did it in 1927. Both are widely regarded as great composers. And their 9ths are beautiful compositions.
+Nick Sm Who says he had to list every composer???
Jennifer Benson he's obviously aware of those, especially Dvorak's, it's really a masterpiece.
I think he does not mention it because he just wants to make his point about the pressure of the 9th; which is true I think.
AIUI, Dvorak regarded his first three or four symphonies as "practice"; IIRC, they weren't published in his lifetime, and the "New World" Symphony went out (I think) as No. 5.
The composer/conductor Leif Segerstam has over 200 symphonies, but they are all written in 1 movement each, I believe.
Bernstein talks about great, well known composers, not Segerstams
thank you very much
"war and peace...or whatever" - LB
His voice reminds me on my grandpa's.A bit.
Find that both Bernstein and Gould when they give their knowledge and experience come across as adepts in what they find to say.
Bernstein: what do you think when I say 9th symphony?
Me: Dvorak's New World?
@Saint Martin of Tours Catholic Church Just asking: do you know Bernstein or something? Because all the documentaries about him make the impression that he was not a lazy person, in fact a very hardworking person.
WTF...he forgot Dvořák´s 9th!!!! How could he??
Noobovitch Indeed, kind of weird he forgot in my opinion the second greatest 9th, especially when it quotes Beethoven so obviously in the Scherzo.
Noobovitch Indeed, he completely overlooked Dvorak.
Noobovitch shostakovich didn't, try to listen to the 2nd movement of his first cello concerto. the beginning is a literal quote from the beginning of Dvorak's 9th.
罗逍然 Shosty does love a good quote
Lenny mentions that in the scherzo, Shostakovich also quotes Mahler, do you know from what section of what Mahler symphony?
Thank you for posting this .....!
Leonard Bernstein and Rischard Taruskin -two modern pillars
Totally enthralling
16:30 what passage from which Mahler symphony does the second basson episode quote??????
The 3rd. It's a slight variation but still recognizable quotation of a motif that permeates the entire 3rd.
I guess it is the 4th movement. The beginning part of it.
When I listen to Bruckner’s 9th symphony, I can help thinking about the 3th Reich and Hitler, it really associates to that time in history, I think....
Anyone else hear 'Just a cabbage' when Bernstein says 'Shostakovich'
I heard just a cabbage. Maybe bcause I was eating cabbage, while listening to Shosta. I dunno.
I do now!
Yes, but Shosty called him Byernstyin.
@@gabbyhyman1246lol, how do you know?
He missed New World (9th of Dvorak) :)
John Lennon. Number Nine. Number Nine. Number Nine. Number Nine. Number Nine.
Too many beers
After his colossal 8th Symphony, it would have been impossible to write something “bigger”.
Amazing
He is wrong. Vaughan Williams completed a 9th symphony.
A genius of earth's harmony!
All hail the comic little protagonist J. Alfred Prufrock, Chaplin, Walter Mitty etc. After All when was the last time you woke up feeling like Alaxander, or Nepolean?
My Uncle Nanni Ricordi in the very early 80s was about to do a JV Then aborted because D. G had an apoling recording policy///// they maintain that there was no need to have high quality Recording since the average listener was using a Grunding.
Imagine how educated you have to be to get all the jokes
Where can one go to watch these Leonard Bernstein programs? I would love more of this content
Well actually, Nikolay Myaskovsky wrote his Symphony no. IX in 1927, some 18 years before Shostakovich's and 18 years after Mahler's.
Well actually, Bernstein talks about great, well known composers, not Myaskovskys
Haydn wrote 104, some say the same symphony 104 times
What does this mean?
Haydn wrote a staggering 104 complete symphonies in his lifetime, but most of them don't deviate very far from a very predictable formula when it comes to structure or instrumentation. I've heard the same joke told in a different way about Vivaldi's concertos.
The joke is that all of Haydn's work is quite pleasant, and often funny, enough, but listening to five Haydn symphonies is like listening to one symphony played slightly differently five times in a row.
This is in stark contrast to some of Haydn's symphonic successors, like Mozart, Schubert, and especially Beethoven, whose works (most people agree) are many times more ambitious.
+Sebastian Wang Sorry, but if you think Hayden’s symphonies are predictable you clearly haven’t heard a single one of them. Haydn might be the most unpredictable composer there is.
Critics of Vivaldi used a close sentence: Vivaldi composed the same concerto 500 times
Metroid Foosion no, they are very predictable. He was writing for the same dude for most of his life.
0:18 DVORAK
He said they were going to play it. I didn’t see anything
Bernstein sounds like Dustin Hoffman
The tenth was a real kick in the dead ass of Stalin. Especially the second movement. Short but loud.
Hi hope someday technology is advanced enough to somehow clone Bernstein to the state just before he died, with all his memories and the true belief that he would just have been there dying just seconds ago yet in fact 30 years ago... help him stay live for about another 50 years and enjoy his performance and educative videos like he does best and loves it. Maybe one day he will read this comment and laugh at its consistency, but also laugh because I was wrong: he won't just live 50 more years, he knows that his consciousness and mind can just always be uploaded on a robiological new body and still have a individual sense of continuity. He will virtually be immortal, or at least medically. So will be for all the fortunate people on earth. But we'll have to make less children than... or find another world to live in, be it underground or something... ok bye
Please somebody upload the 9thdirected by Mraninsky.
"the 9th of 9ths"
-bernstein
Didn't know Bernstein was a pianist too! He plays really well!
How did you get the Chinese subtitles? I need them for my Chinese parents!
I heard ,,Jehovah'', when he said Chekhov. Did anybody else...?
nope
So editing out all the music why?
For copyright reasons
wow (amazing)
Did he forget the Dvorak 9th
6:15
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The number nine is a very interesting number because in binary notation it has (1001) which symbolizes the devil, two horns and two eyes in the middle.
what part of mahler 9 is he quoting at 16:35?
Which theme of Mahler's Ninth Symphony is quoted? Where is this theme?
Love that seductive Bassoon.
Shostakovich's 9th was a musical middle finger to Stalin
raff symphony no 9!
I like Leonard Bernstein quite a bit, but his talk about composers and numbers of symphonies at 9 or higher between Mahler and Shostakovich is factually wrong. For example, one of my favourite 20th century symphonists, Julius Röntgen, wrote TWENTY-FIVE.
I always liked Dvorak 9
p.s. 9th symphony Malcolm Arnold.
Beethoven's 9th? NO! Dokken's 9th album.
Don is German too and a fine composer.
What part of Mahler 9 does he quote from?
"After Mahler, none of the succeeding twentieth century symphonists got past their seventh or eighth. ...until Dmitri Shostakovich."
Doesn't Miaskovsky count?
Mr Inman Let's keep it to the composers that anyone remembers, yeah?
MartyHasNoLife: You mean, "Let's resort to my ignorance to support an argument."? Please yourself.
Mr Inman I know who Miaskovsky is, but insofar as well-remembered composers, he ranks near the bottom. His students are well-remembered (Khachaturian and the like), but the last time I saw his name for a live performance of his music was in 2010.
We minions can think what we like, but if the aim is to understand what influenced Shostakovich, then the point is this: Bernstein seemed to suggest that the notion of writing a ninth symphony was daunting to a composer post-war because nobody had done it for a long time. There is plenty of documented evidence to suggest that Shostakovich knew and respected Miaskovsky as a composer, so it is doubtful he would have seen this as "a path untrodden since the Great Romantics".
May I add this to your Bernstein quote? " ...and then Ralph Vaughan Williams in 1958."
Is this ok?