This will ANGER the Narrowboat community! Hot water tank calorifier instillation
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Hey guys, how’s things? Haven’t seen you for a bit so just checking you haven’t sunk 😮 lol. Hope you’re both ok xx
Good to see that progress is being made. A generator can be your best friend and your worst nightmare. Best use is for an emergency only.
That what Bex keeps telling me, im just trying to find ways to speed this process up
@@TheNomadicCrobot I had to buy one several years ago because we lose power quite often from storms. Granted it's small but it's enough to run the fridge and a couple of lights. That gets us through a couple of days until the power returns, but downsides are the constant noise for hours on end, even with the unit outside, and the fuel thirst, having to full it up every few hours.
Get a load of solar on the roof soon pay for it’s self believe me you will moor for a few days even if only to avoid bad weather. I started with 300watt then added another then another panel so have 900watt have a fridge and a freezer. Nine months of year no problem now. Generators smelly fuel and storing the thing better running engine. The expansion vessel should be tee into the cold water supply. Plus fit a one way valve in the cold water supply pipe to stop the hot water going back up the cold water pipe lots do not do this but we were getting hot water in the bathroom at cold water tap. Becks you’re doing a great job.
your not wrong a full solar set up would be lovely, its something we havent explored yet, just absolutely itching to get cruising now, its just got silly at this stage 😂😂 thanks for all you help
Well done Bex 👍
Bad moves Chris, a cheap generator can be very noisy, annoying people and can be very heavy to lug on and off your boat. We invested in three solar panels and it's the best thing we have done to create electricity from the inverter all day, especially in Summer. If we didn't need hot water we wouldn't have to run our genny for an hour every evening in Summer, but we can also run our Gardner engine to charge the batteries and provide hot water. or turn on the immersion heater. Trial and error whichever way you get results 👍
It's all a learning process what results you achieve 👍
yes it looks like the geni is going to be more trouble than its worth, I full solar setup will save us in the long run...can you imagine me trying to install it though??? 😂😂
@@TheNomadicCrobot If you have space on the roof, the more solar panels you can fit is the best idea, even in winter with good UV it can charge your batteries for the inverter and you can charge your batteries by running your engine.
The key to sucess is to have alternative charging sauces, solar panels, engine or generator, but if you are constantly on the move lugging a generator on and off would be a pain.
Tell Bex to RUclips fitting solar panels, she could do it 👍
Nice job on the plumbing. Gets all excited about free hot water then goes and looks at a generator.😂 Solar, free, silent energy.
your probably right...we chose the quite life....lets keep it quiet
I live aboard, off grid for 8 months of the year. I have never owned or needed a generator, just solar and cruising make plenty of power.
Solar always your best friend, followed by the most and best batteries you can fit on board. Generator is a nice backup, great if your out in middle of nowhere and need to top up battery. Plus gets rid of other boaters that moor up next to you even if the rest of canal is empty! Pest control at its best and noisiest!
a full on solar set up would be ideal, and like you say maybe use the geni as a back up, 😂😂😂 love it...Pest control
Crobotwere are you we are so missing your full length videos we look forward to them so much love from rose and Steve xx
Bless you guys, thankfully we are back tomorrow...its been 3 weeks I think 🤔 thanks for the love ❤️
Yay the calorifier is almost fitted ready for your hot water. Great work Bex. ❤
yayyyy hurry up Bex and get us cruising 😂😂😊❤️
The best place for the generator is going to be on the roof, because the emissions from the exhaust are potentially very dangerous. Also make sure to have a carbon monoxide detector installed and functional on the boat. Long-term, you’re probably going to want a couple of pretty decent output, solar panels. If you don’t care about roof space usage, you could get several large panels and hook them up to two separate inverters so you have a fallback in case there’s a problem or if you only need a little bit of charge input. As far as the expansion tank goes, you’re going to want to get another long strap jubilee clip because the changing temperatures will affect the plastic over time and it could get loose. I would also look to see if there’s a muffler kit for that generator make, and model to reduce the noise. Looking good so far! Hope you can make the swap over to solar sooner rather than later!
Also, that diesel heater definitely does need an exhaust to the outside!
Thats so interesting thank you for the heads up, I think a full solar set up is what we need really. hopefully its not as pricey as it looks.I have heard of these muffler kits. Thank you for all your tip, so incredibly helpful ❤️😊🥰
Well bex that’s a bloody cliff hanger for sure !!! I’m so excited for you guys ! Xx
Thank you Mandy, back to the cliffhangers 😂😂 hope you have a lovely week ❤️
@@TheNomadicCrobot you too my lovelies xx
I have every faith in you one day being able to cruise, you’ve set a benchmark for effort, heart in the right place etc, and remember there always has to be someone who isn’t cruising and that’s you, so don’t feel too bad, I hope this positive message encourages you to stop procrastinating and act on intentions. 😊
Thanks, im sure it will happen in the next months, were trying to work out what the minimum is we can get away with, so as soon as the hot water is giving us showers and we have some batteries charging up somehow were good to go, Thanks for your patience
Chris,you do need to be careful about the generator,if you have to raise your voice in order to be heard next to it then it’s probably going to be over 90db,anyone who complains about the noise,you will need to switch it off completely,otherwise you can get done by the environmental agency !!.
Now you can get Silent generators ( Power Networks and Water Companies use them in Residential Areas ).
There are also ones that are used by Network Rail which are super silent and designed to output a huge amount of power,these generators and lighting tower gennys are stolen quite often 🤷♂️.
Plus when they are old they are scrapped.
DO NOT get a Cheap Chinese made Diesel Heater……Webasco are the best and they even make some that not only heat the Air but can also be plumbed in to Heat Water
Yep. Generators are too damn loud. On a narrow boat it will be terrible. Just put solar panels on the roof. Free energy all the time! I live on a new build estate and a few summers ago a fish and chip van/trailer started turning up, and pitching on the grass across from my home. Friday and Saturday nights. He had a generator outside the trailer van on the ground, running constantly. It sounded like a motorbike! I could hear it in the house, with windows and doors shut across the road from him! People closer it was worse. So many complaints in the end the council stopped him and moved him on etc. Generators are for an emergency or a fair ground. Thats it.
thats interesting alot of people really talk highly of the heaters. maybe its something that needs a bit more attention. generator wise I feel it may be more trouble than. its worth...I was just trying to think of ways to get moving quicker as its been such a long journey
@@TheNomadicCrobot Yes I can understand that. But solar will work to a degree on dark cloudy days, all the time. Get some large panels, cover the roof in them and they will trickle charge all day long. There are plenty to chose from for mobile homes etc. Use LED lighting as much as you can too. You will forever be looking for fuel for a generator. The noise, the fumes...and it kept keeling over when you plugged a kettle etc in! Not good. Price of Fuel now, having to keep cans of it around on the boat or to get to a diesel pump...I would not even dream of a generator like that on a narrow boat your size. The vibration and the noise will drive you nuts, never mind anyone else....
@@TheNomadicCrobot You can get quiet generators but what you need to know is that the small suitcase type ones use a lot of Fuel…..Like 4-5 litres in a few hours and with the cost of petrol and the problem with storage of the fuel as well ( don’t forget that there is a reason why boats tend to have Diesel engines,they are safer 🤷♂️ ).
I think it’s a case of you either get a good cheap Chinese diesel heater or you get a bad one,some people think they are brilliant but others have had bad experiences with them,Webasco are the most expensive ones and they are the most reliable,plus if you need parts for the Webasco ones you can get them and not have to wait 6 weeks and end up paying £76 in customs charges 🤷♂️.
And if you fit a diesel heater it is only good for small spaces really ( they are great in HGV’s and Cars because of the smaller area they have to heat up ).
If you Did fit one you would need a high power outage one and fit some sort of ventilation pipe work and you would need booster fans to ensure that the heat is dissipated throughout the entire length of your Boat 🤷♂️.
If you think about one of those tiny little ones and how much heat it puts out but think about the volume of hot air you are going to need to heat your boat, it will be working extremely hard all the time just to heat up a few cubic feet of space ( I’m just saying that as a example ) but imagine how hot it has to be an how hard it would need to work to get hot air from the stern to the bows ?!!.
It can be done but normally the Hot Air Heating system and A/c ducting is put in when the Boat is being built.
It’s run behind the skirting board with booster fans and vents every few feet,I’m wondering if you have ever thought about Heat Exchangers ? They can come in small units and they can be used for Heating and Cooling ( A/C ),the only downside is the need for a Quite large fan outside ( about the size of a Large Suitcase ).
There is a couple up North who are rebuilding Sarinda ( an old ex Navy ship ),Simon and Gemma and their Main Line of work is the renovation and making Vans into RV and camper type Vans….. I’m sure they would have some very good ideas and information on heating of a Boat and the best way to go about it,they would probably have the details of lots of people who supply equipment etc as well for boats and camper vans ( they built a Camper Van for a Chap who goes to the Isle of Man TT and in his camper he had a quite big generator that he would need for all his racing/tool/charging of batteries etc.
Oh and they know a hell of a lot about Solar power as well and how to fit it and where to get it from.
Don’t go down the route of cheap Chinese knock offs though Chris and Bex…. Webasco are pretty amazing units and like I said, you even have units that keep the engine coolant/water at a reasonable temperature when it is freezing outside.
Oh and the digital thermostat and controller is in English 🏴!!!!!
You can join jubilee clips together guys to make whatever length required
Thanks so much for the hack
Just a wondering, you two should write a, Got dem Calorifier Blues Riff, your both very talented Musicians. I could put in a Sax Horn Section if you wanted haha!
hahaha could you imagine...watch out top of the pops 😂
Hello Becca and Chris.
Becca thank you for explaining so clearly all about the connection of your calorifier. That spring clip thingy was a bit stupid being undersized.
Loved the way you used a cable tie. They can often get you out of trouble.
Chris a great visit to see your friend and his generator. Good power tests. Loved the Dramatic music. That diesel heater looked interesting too.
Another great Vlog. Excellent editing as always. Thank you.
Have a great week. Spoolbox.
Hi Spoolbox, Becca is to technical...I dont have a clue what shes rambling on about (dont tell her I said that) though not the most practical with the geni ...I do feel it could speed things up a bit, Thank you always ❤️ have a lovely week ❤️🥰
Dunno about ‘boring’… it’s certainly been one of the MOST entertaining! 😂
Take care lovely pair 😘🌻
awww bless you thank you so much 😊❤️❤️
Becky. You should lubricate the plastic fittings with water at least, to prevent twisting or distorting the rubber O ring inside it, on insertion of the pipe.
Also, the metal pipe inserts are to strengthen the plastic pipes at the joints to prevent flexing and kinking, not to seal the ends.
Just saying.
Thanks I passed this on to Bex, someone else had mentioned it too. Thats so interesting about the kinking ...I will let the girl know, Thanks Dave
Hi Chris and Bex. Well done with the plumbing. I think a decent solar system is definitely the way to go but realise that may be too expensive to buy. I think using a generator may be very expensive to run. Take care. Nick
yes your probably right, a solar setup will be worth it in the long run just very expensive, but we do need one really, thank you Nick...its been a long old journey
100% stoked for you guys getting out of the marina and onto the cut - think of the £££avings!
But totally have solar working first - would be mad not to at this time of year. 4x 250-350w panels, few bits of cable, couple of mppt controllers, you can fix it all in a weekend. Shop carefully =
Thank you, its a long time coming and I feel this is our year for it, just the last important parts really, all else can be done on route, Thats so interesting...I do wonder if we could just use the 2 batteries that we have been given to use...there all th esame thing after all
You could put a couple of hose clamps together to get the right length
Thanks for the insight
You should use the HEP2O lubricant spray on the pipes before inserting to protect the o-rings. Alternatively lick it! The o-rings need some lube!
Thats so interesting thanks you so much for the advice
Always looking forward to your blogs, you are an amazing woman and quite adapt at problem solving and repairs.. In hindsight, maybe it was for the best to have a problem boat, with that said there’s no situation you won’t be able to handle. Not to forget Chris and his ability's of video editing and humour. Maybe one time if convenient to play guitar and sing us a song, even briefly. I enjoyed the times with you and Chris kicking back, having fun, (maybe with alcohol involved) making music. Anyway, Cheers from South Florida, USA.
Bless you, thank you so. much for your lovely words, things are very slow this month with lots of outside of boat things going on but were trying to still get videos out. We would bot love to get the guitars out again, thanks you so much 😊❤️
Good to see you again
HI Simon great to see you all again 😀
Those generic deisel heaters need about £150 in extra parts to make them safe to pass bss so with the cost of the unit and extra parts moneys better spent on a use reconditioned ebspatcher we have one and it's heats our boat radiators and heats the water very economical to use about half or less of a liter an hour
😂😂 so Bex tells me, maybe its better as a back up. Thanks
I would get an aobosi induction hob to try as well witch I use in my off grid shed and a well done Bex.
oh woaw I will take a look into one of these
That plumbing job looks excellent, if i need any work done I now know who I’ll call.
So lucky to have Bex working on this project 😊
Oh I just love you guys you don’t half cheer me up! Cruising is defo getting closer now and with hot water too! State of us like - well too posh for the canals lol. 😂 big hugs guys have a lovely week. 🤗
Hi Estele, We are getting closer...it has to happen this year really so were trying to speed things along if we can...someone needs to bring poshness to the canals 😂😂 have a lovely week ❤️❤️
@@TheNomadicCrobot
Haha defos Chris bring a bit of class. 👌🏼🤣💕💕
I made a water sun heat panel out of copper piping. It worked well. Over 60 degrees. Next doors has a Narrow Boat and has taken it to try and heat his water tank up.
woaw that's so cool, this would make for a great RUclips video
Nice work with the plumbing Bex, hopefully should be finished soon. Thinking about the generator it might be useful if you wanted to use some equipment when you are out on the cut so it doesn't drain your batteries.
A power station like EcoFlow, Jackery or Bluetti would be much better for that. They can be equipped with their own solar panels.
yes maybe a back up gene would be the better option, I wonder if you could even use it while cruising??
@@TheNomadicCrobot You could, but for that it would make more sense to fit an AC alternator to use the engine to generate electricity since it's already running and using fuel.
Those plastic joints look brilliant. Wish I’d had them when I was doing some DIY plumbing,especially as you can get them apart again if you get it wrong. Do they work with all sizes of copper pipe ?
Great seeing your progress in your cruise around our waterways also did i notice your fire extinguisher was dated 2018
yes we really need to sort that 😂😂 Thanks 😊❤️
Its because I'm a campervan owner
A generator on a boat makes you about as popular as a rattlesnake in a lucky dip.Chinese diesel great bit of kit work well and reliable
yeah I have heard that
Hello there ! Honda makes smaller less noisy units ….what about solar like 98% of narrow boats? And doesn’t your engine have a alternator? Nice work on the hot water
iv heard of those...maybe that would be the way to go without upsetting to many boaty people , our engine does actually, but we need a new inverter too...just so many expenses
@@TheNomadicCrobot yes an inventer and the complete shabang for an off the grid installation can and will get pricy but once done it’s done …and then you will be able to keep doing these great videos wile cruising the canals without worries …keep on rocking les amis !
definitely consider solar, you have a massive flat roof perfect for solar panels, once installed it pays you back with free power!..........Becks is correct the generator has moving parts and burns fuel, it will go wrong, it will let you down when you need it most.....ok for occasional use, but then all you would need is small (quiet and lightweight) unit just for charging batteries/ running the odd hand tool
yes I think solar look the best way to go though it will cost, Thanks for your insight
0:14 long but never boring, cheers kids from America
Thank you ❤️😊
Yey! Cruising crobots. I've got a geni..Its noisey, expensive to run..can' t beat solar..Well done guys..❤
Cheers Will, maybe its better as a back up, happy cruising buddy ❤️
Very retro using flat head screws and you can join two jubilee clips together to extend them.
Thank you so much ❤️😊🥰
YES! 🤪 Will there every be an end?
noooooo 😂
Hope you guy are ready to go and dont forget the Bedford river festival in july.
woaw that sounds cool we havent really done any festivals yet
Definitely have at least some solar on your boat, I have 1500w on mine and use the excess to heat water for free hot water in summer (solar dump).
Solar is handy as even when you're not on the boat its generating power, its noiseless and maintenance free other than giving the panels a wipe every now and then.
genni for 3 months of the winter where the sun is no good though
maybe the gene would be better as a back up, solar was always the way to go but the whole set up along with a new inverter is going to cost, Thanks
@@TheNomadicCrobot Fair enough, inverter will cost a bit, if you want to just get out cruising asap, you could get away without an inverter.
I run my laptop off of the 12v batteries directly by using a buck boost converter (£15 on amazon). it converts 12v to 19v which most laptops run on.
You could get 1 solar panel (300w for around £80) and and a cheap solar charge controller.
Mount the panel on the roof and connect it to the charge controller which is connected to the batteries and presto you're good to get out cruising for the summer months.
Do you have an alternator for your leisure batteries?
Think about an anti-scald valve where the hot/cold is balanced automatically to one temp -
To quieten the generator build a box around & upgrade the muffler(YT has videos) - oh don't forget to insulate the hot pipe since winter cools the water fast
Thats so interesting thank you 😊
It already has the valve installed on the top of the calorifier on the outlet so you can set the mix of hot and cold.
Awwww i do hope it works and hit water next time tc now both the oldiesxx🤗🤗👍👍🌺🥀🌷🌹
Thank you so much Oldies ❤️😊🥰
Bex is a beast…..in a good way. Good work!!!! Brave of you to send Chris shopping 🤣😂😅
I hope to see cruising with hot water in the near future.
😊🤗 Kathy
Thank you Kathy, it cant be to long now, Bex has got it all under control 😊❤️
Looking at your Feet ( shoes) as you walked back from looking at the Generator , I wondered if you had trained as a Ballet Dancer when you where younger 😊
I definitely have weird feet 🤣🤣no sorry no ballet 🤣
Avoid gen sets if you can, one for emergencies say 2.8KW would be more than adequate and quieter than that Clarke thing. The eco switch makes it throttle down when the load is low at least it should do.
thats so interesting, yes if we can avoid the geni situation I think we will
O no'' I keep thinking that it's not a good thing. 💥
Bex has got it under control 😂
@@TheNomadicCrobot Very well, if you say so.🙄
ex you can join two or three Jubilee clips together and make one large circle like the on that came in the kit. Better than the plastic tie. Ed 40 S of Vegas
Thank you for the advice 😊❤️
There is only one man who treats a drill like a lethal weapon,and we all know who he is Bex.and you can join plastic tie's
😂 Thank you John 😊
Have a look at the Honda generators - very efficient and almost silent.
Iv seen these,worth a look onto
Well done Bex, you’re sure getting closer to hot water BUT, Chris a genie is expensive and noisy, I know we had one in our motorhome then our caravan (it was only used in emergencies) but solar is quiet and once installed the power is free you don’t need to buy diesel for it. Those shorts you put up Chris they turn my TV off. No not turn it off they won’t play on my TV I can only see them on my phone or iPad and they’re small then instead of on the big TV screen. You guys are getting there. Loving the videos. See you soon. 💕. PS diesel heaters are great on a little caravan or motorhome.
Yes I think the geni here is probably going to annoy to many boaters, though you can get silent ones. maybe it is best t be used in emergencies. sorry about the shorts hope there not to much of a nuisance , thanks for all the advice, have a lovely week
@@TheNomadicCrobot NOTHING you guys do is annoying, if I could get the shorts on the TV that would be great but I don’t know how, all my RUclips I can get on the TV except shorts, any shorts not just yours and it can be annoying as often it’s stuff I want to see. Take care guys. 💕
So clever Bex, multi talented.
Isn't she amazing 😍
That's a frame genny like on a building site. Look at a suitcase inverter genny. Honda 1.0eu or hyundai si1000, or the 2kw version of each. Super quiet and 7hr run time off less than 1.5l of fuel. If you aren't running high load items you don't need a genny over 2kw. 2nd hand honda off marketplace for 400 or new hyundai for 400 quid.
yes these suitcase ones would be alot quieter, thanks for the information
Nice job on the plumbing, Bex!
Jubilee clips, just like cable ties, can be joined together if you don't have one long enough.
Chris, relying on a generator is a bad idea, especially a cheap one - they're meant for occasional use and use a lot of fuel. You'd be literally burning money that could go towards getting solar panels.
Bes was determined to try and install the calorifier herself bless her, im starting to think maybe a gene would just be better as a back up, im just so desperate to get moving
@@TheNomadicCrobot And she found a cable tie! All is good.
As a backup sure, but not as your main source of electricity on the cut. It really is rather expensive to run, unlike solar power where you have the initial setup cost but then you get "free" energy.
Sorry guys that genny will vibrate through the boat, not recommended when moored up, solar is a better option set up properly, good luck.
thanks 😊
Re. Intro: Never boring Chris!
Thank you 😊 That means alot
is there any such device like a forward facing prop. that could charge a battery. or dragged behind that could do the same. so that'll charge your battery while motoring along....
happy building
thats interesting, worth looking into
Cracking on guys you'll be out cruising soon 😅....
it seriously needs to happen soon 😂😭
How do you get hot water when engine is not running
If you have no solar or generator then you'll probably have to run the engine for a couple of hours a day to charge the batteries, assuming you have the inverter on for about 8 hours per day. If you're cruising most days, that's no big deal really. To get the most out of the calorifier, one of you take a shower an hour into a cruise then the other an hour later, and at the end if you've cruised for 3 hours or more, you'll still have plenty of hot water.
Thats a great analysis Tim thank you for all the advice
Never mind hot water, my partners boat doesn't even have a bathroom! Well ok he's got a toilet, but nothing else, so strip washes at the kitchen sink, oh the luxuries! You have a lounge and extra bedroom too, you don't know how good you have it lol :) at least I can run away back to my home when that all gets too much ;)
woaw...well we kind of dont have a bathroom ether really...but its coming...watch this space year 2088 😂😂 Thank you 😊❤️
@@TheNomadicCrobot thank goodness for marina facilities a? :)
If you do get a genny please dont run it on your boat, but on the bank as it gives off co, which is heavier than air and will find its way into the cabin....
Thats good to know Thanks
Every time I put a battery in my drill I think I'm loading a magazine into a machine gun😂😂
Glad you used bolts and not screws to fix calorifier 😊
😂😂😂 brilliant, its the only way to it
Make sure its tight water pipes the sealant the blue stuff narrowboat escape (josh) had a bad flood because of these pipes
Thanks so much for the heads up , really appreciate it
Take the generator off eco throttle before putting on a large load, the diesel heater should be fine just drill a hole in the hull for the exhaust all the best.
Thanks Mark that explains alot
The gen with a charger will take a while to charge your bat,then you have other boater saying you can't run them after 8 at night😅,get sola you won't regret it, I had 14v going in today
yeah im worried about annoying people, maybe it should just be used as a back up
I had a diesel heater in my lorry cab when I was working,never had a problem, drifted off to sleep every night,
sounds like a great cheap way to keep warm
@@TheNomadicCrobot I always cracked a window when using the diesel heater, I don’t know about fumes, but I do know the heater burnt oxygen in the cab in good quantities, didn’t want to run out of oxygen during a sleep, it also returned unused warm diesel back to the tank,that helped a little on a cold night,
yes
Where are you? Missing your Vlogs! Xxx
thanks weve been away for a few weeks, back this coming Monday
will the Crobot's ever sail ,tune in to episode 50,000 to find out lol
😂😂 its not looking good is it 😂
@@TheNomadicCrobot you get there
OOooooo! Re generators, I sense pitchforks being readied & sharpened. 🤣
exactly my thoughts 😂😂
All things are possible with Bex!
shes an animal
Well as Bex said onto the hot stuff 😂@@TheNomadicCrobot
Get a Genny and you’ll feel the hate around a marina with the noise. Don’t want it onboard as it’ll drive you nuts and on deck bank someone will nick it, bringing it inside is a no-no, heavy, bulky and you’ll get fed up with moving it in and out.
Solar is the way to go but lithium batteries are expensive.
Chinese diesel heaters are the biz …. But get one oversized for your use as there are so many heat losses in a NB.
yes it seams to be the way, we have talked to people that use them for 2 hours every evening but im not sure how popular that is , thanks for you help
Have you ever thought about doing a different project without any DIY?
I would looooove to do something that doesn't involve DIY 🤣
What are the odds in Vegas if they leave in the next month or not? 🤣
😂😂 its probably not great
If you’re worried about the noise with the Generator Chris look at a suitcase type.
iv heard of those, thanks Nick
@@TheNomadicCrobot you might have to pay more for a Honda 2.2eui suitcase generator but buy once pay once. It’s smaller and much easier to move and store away than the type you looked at.
@@TheNomadicCrobot if your going to the Crick Boat show end of May give me a shout and have a look at our set up. It’s are mooring so will be there all through the show.👍🏼
Buy solar, better than generator. I have both but since installing solar I’ve used generator 3 times in 5 years, but I keep it for big draw appliances like washing machine.
If you must buy a generator, get diesel, petrol goes off in 6 months and gives starting problems where as diesel doesn’t really go off etc..
your not wrong, a good solar setup will pay off in the end, i was just trying to speed things up, Thanks for your advice
@@TheNomadicCrobot obviously the only reason uk stay in Marina is shore power, so yes your right, with a generator you can get moving sooner rather than later, and god, it’s about time you started moving. Before your boat grows in and becomes a permanent feature! 🤔😂🤣
Loved Every minute of every video from you guys. To be honest il Miss your DIY vlogs when it’s all done.
Thank you so much what a lovely thing to say 😊
Surely solar panels win over a generator? Yes the initial cost will be higher with solar but it won't annoy anybody you are moored near to. Seems like a case of just wanting a big noisy toy
I think your right...a solar set up would be much easier and cause less of a problem to boaty neighbours
Would your alternator be able to charge your batteries?
we dont have batteries at the moment, but that would be the idea normally , then maybe use the geni as back up
Solar power is best and good quality batteries, we used onboard solar matt Gibson top bloke ask him for advice, if you go to crick he may be there love your videos hope to see you on the cut somewhere 🍻
Thanks Peter we were hoping to head to crick. thanks for the advice
Put a 1000w of solar on your roof and make a solar dump into the Hot water tank.
Now there's a cracking idea ....Bex get a move on 😂
@@TheNomadicCrobot 😎
If anyone has doubt about your future adventure on the Cut, it´s not me.
If I´m still around for the next decade I will för sure follow you.
Thank you so much, we will get there, this our year...it needs to be
When she said she was going to put her Mario hat on I was hoping for her to put a Mario hat on her head. 😭
😂😂 thats would have been great
Why would you pay for fuel and a geni when solar is free elastic~trickery for the same price as a geni and silent ???
It's a very Good point
Your calorifier install really messes with my OCD😂😂😂 is there any reason why you didn’t mount it with the outlets/inlets parallel to the wall ? The pipework would look much neater without the bends.
we wanted the knobs on the top to be pointing outwards so when we open the cupboard that the tank will sit in we can easily change the settings.....I know what your saying though 😂😂
Generators = Noise, Flammable Petrol to be stored onboard, Smell from Exhaust and Petrol - Generally (no pun) and they don't last long. Not good!
Solar Panels - Quiet, Clean, No running costs, totally controllable BUT if the batteries you are charging are Lead/Acid they do have a tendency to BOIL them. Using AGM Gel or Lithium LiFePO (Light weight/Smaller/Consistent Output) and a Good Quality Charger/Controller - Brilliant
If you know nothing about Solar, speak to Eco-Worthy who sell a vast range of Panels, Controllers, Inverters if you want 230volts, And other bits and bobs. I prefer Solar for my camper van, works well (in the sun - if available).
Diesel Heater - Highly recommended 5/8kw Very warm and efficient, cheap to run - try a look at Banggood for them, for a good price!
Good luck with that - John
hmmmm you may be on to something, maybe best to try and keep moving on with the solar...its just something thats going to cost alot of money.Thanks so much John
Beks, you're amazing. I think you would have had this narrow boat done if not for all the "help" from Chris lol. Sorry mate.
Thats it, im staying out the way from now on 😂😂
@@TheNomadicCrobot Its easy to sit here and comment. My DIY skills are non existent. Keep up the good work.
One small step for Crobot kind. A giant step toward civilization away from civilization. 😁
yayyyyy Thank you 🥰
Gotta go Solar Chris. Use a genny for now , then get solar for the summer. I've just bought a boat, well nearly just getting the survey sorted then I'm off. I'll come find you and give you a hand with DIY stuff.
I think your right 😊thats so sweet of you, good luck with your own boaty adventures
@@TheNomadicCrobot what marina are you at.
Bex the wonder plumber
We would be lost without her 😊
Lol. Based on the progressed you’ve made in the last 3 yrs, I’d say your still another 3 yrs away from being ready to start cruising. 😂
dont say that 😂😂 this is our year....make or break
My advice is do not start cruising without the boat being completely ready. Ie hot water, electric, heating etc. if you think it’s been hard referbishing your boat in a marina your going to struggle getting the boat completed whilst on the move. Don’t do it.
That's what Bex keeps saying, we would like to experience some diy on route, I feel it could make things fun,but the essentials need to be put in place first,thank you for all the support 😀
I think James, from the boat that james built, has rebuild 2 in the same time lol
yeah but hes no as lazy as me 😂😂
Get a split charge relay (voltage sense relay) for your batteries. They are a very simple way to link your house batts to your existing starter batt charge system, without modifying it. When the engine is running and the voltage comes up on the start batt, the relay will kick in and connect your house batteries. Then when the engine stops, and the voltage drops, the relay drops out, isolating your house batts from the system.
Also, those chineseium diesel heters are excellent. I have one heating my quite big workshop. Just as good as the wabasto ones for 1/10 of the cost. And so cheap you can carry a complete spare as backup.
Bex, not sure you should be left alone too long, you’re loosing it girl…..🤭🤭
shes trouble....im telling you
Thanks
Thank you so much Andrew so incredibly kind of you ❤️❤️
@@TheNomadicCrobot no worries I've been with ya from the start cobots love ya channel. Hoping to get my own narrow boat soon may bump into ya one day hopefully not literally 😆 an have a beer with ya both all the best Andrew ♥️♥️
Thank you Andrew, so incredibly kind of you,not all narrowboat life is like ours,we've really thrown in the deep end, we look forward to meeting you on our cruises ❤❤
Installation, see me after class, write it down 10 times, lmao.
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Since you've gone posh lol I'm going to call you posh and bex hope you like it lol
😂 thats Brilliant ❤️
solar is the way to go
I think you may be right
Generators i think are a,waste of time ....... bimble solar do a 12 month 0% finance 1kw of solor and a 100 amp mppt controller then you can do a,solar dump to your clarifier for free hot water
thats a very good point, maybe the gene is better as a back up