Apple WWDC 2009 Keynote - Bertrand Serlet talks about Windows 7 and Snow Leopard

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  • Bertrand Serlet makes fun of Windows 7, just like he did with Vista at WWDC 2006.
    Furthermore he explains some of the new features and technologies in Snow Leopard.
    Although Windows 7 is an improvement compared to the disaster called Vista, Microsoft itself admitted that Windows 7 is based on Vista, and therefore Bertrand Serlet is making some good points for Windows users to consider.

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  • @ChrissonatorOFL
    @ChrissonatorOFL 8 лет назад +285

    Ironic, because Windows 7 actually did surprisingly well, compared to Vista.

    • @DerpProductionz
      @DerpProductionz 8 лет назад +24

      +Chris Cunningham Windows 7 is the best os of all time

    • @DMSDrummer
      @DMSDrummer 7 лет назад +4

      Steven Stone YASSSS I LOVED Vista! I realized something. All Vista software is terrible because of the same reason. I have MS Flight Sim X, and it is laggy, because why? It was made for Vista. It's like XP and 7 had a baby and they named it Vista. Vista was amazing.

    • @FuzzyTuba_xbox
      @FuzzyTuba_xbox 6 лет назад

      Actually, i think, Windows 7 didn’t do as well starting into its life cycle then, when it “matured”, everyone realised that Windows 7 is better!

    • @themacintoshnerd
      @themacintoshnerd 6 лет назад

      Windows 7 and snow leopard were great but they had a point with older tech but again the older tech = more compatibility really different Focuses

    • @Stretch501st
      @Stretch501st 4 года назад

      Dezqn HD windows XP, with 7 in close second

  • @robertmarsh3484
    @robertmarsh3484 3 года назад +22

    Now macOS is exactly like he was describing Windows 7 with the UAC stuff. Craig Federighi replaced him after Snow Leopard. I think that explains a lot.

    • @vista9434
      @vista9434 3 года назад +7

      I would say macOS's version of UAC is worse than Windows 7 or 10's UAC

    • @ParasAryan
      @ParasAryan 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@vista9434it's f*cking annoying

  • @slob5041
    @slob5041 8 месяцев назад +17

    Bertrand is the guy that came up with how iOS feels. He wanted it to be like a piece of paper under your finger.

  • @AdamasOldblade
    @AdamasOldblade 18 дней назад +5

    This OS was launched 15 years ago today. I'm commenting on August 28th, 2024.
    I was 22 when it launched and remember picking it up with two friends at the Apple Store. All three of us total nerds decided to pick up our DVD copy, then walked straight across the street to a Total Wine liquor store, all three of us bought 99 Apples booze, went to my place, got drunk while it installed.
    They say your younger years are, "simpler times". Usually it's only because you had less to worry about, but nights like that were a prime example of just jumping off the roller coast of life and being stupid and it was fun.

    • @9852323
      @9852323 16 дней назад

      Sounds cool. I wish I had nerd friends. But the nerds I know don’t like computers 😞

  • @MrEdweird
    @MrEdweird 14 лет назад +8

    He's missing out on the things Microsoft DID do right with Windows 7. There are tons of small improvements over there as well and it is undoubtedly better than Vista, and in some aspects, in times. This is the thing I don't like about Apple. I don't see anyone complaining with Windows 7 for legitimate reasons.

  • @OakBlox
    @OakBlox 29 дней назад +4

    bro just downloaded the video and trimmed out a part of the video, and then slapped the biggest and most obvious watermark on the video 🤦🤦🤦🤦

  • @unfazedd9558
    @unfazedd9558 8 лет назад +142

    well 7 is still supported today while snow loeopard is in the dust soooo..

    • @JoshCarterWeb
      @JoshCarterWeb 7 лет назад +38

      Thats because it wasn't worth updating from.

    • @64bit72
      @64bit72 7 лет назад

      EliteGamer 12 hahahaha yes

    • @jsward96
      @jsward96 7 лет назад +52

      Maybe because instead of giving users just one year to move over to the new operating system, Apple makes their upgrades free indefinitely?

    • @kartikk7346
      @kartikk7346 7 лет назад +8

      Windows 7 released in 2009, Windows 8 in 2012.
      Windows 10 in 2016 (Beta version in 2015) and windows 10 had a free upgrade from windows 8 for over 6 months.
      Unlike Macbooks, most windows systems are PCs which easily last 7-10 years based on your initial equipment. Laptops obviously depend on a lot of factors such as usage, manufacturer (for windows), etc
      So while you invest in Windows software, it's a huge cost saving over Macs.
      Now I am guessing your next comment might be related to viruses. So, Yes, Windows has had a lot of viruses written for it, but that was because of it's 99% market share. Today even with Mac's still relatively small market share, many of the viruses are now targeted against it.

    • @TheMrOwn1
      @TheMrOwn1 7 лет назад +13

      "Unlike Macbooks, most windows systems are PCs which easily last 7-10 years based on your initial equipment. Laptops obviously depend on a lot of factors such as usage, manufacturer (for windows), etc" That is incorrect, macOS High Sierra (The latest version as I am writing this) is supported on any Apple computer after 2010 and even some from 2009 that is 7-8 years.

  • @segaprophet
    @segaprophet 12 лет назад +11

    I miss Bertrand, he was one of the real stars they got from NeXT...

  • @TrevorLentz
    @TrevorLentz 8 лет назад +28

    Snow leopard is no longer supported, is no longer getting updates, and they didn't roll out true 64 bit support for the original Mac Pro 1 to utilize the hardware's true potential (yes I know you can install the latest osx on the original, but it's not supported even if you have 8 cores, a new gpu, and 8gb of ram). Windows 7 on the other hand still gets security updates, gets the latest game releases, and can use the latest versions of Microsoft Office. Both systems released in 2009, only one of them is still relevant in 2016. The planned obsolescence is astounding.

    • @MattExzy
      @MattExzy 7 лет назад

      ...and OS X Snow Leopard, for me at least, was the last version of OS X worth using. Apple's notorious for lapses in security for older systems - for example, I have an older MacBook that's stuck on 10.7.5 - still works well, I don't use it every day, but it's stuck there. Ironically, it's Windows 7 install is far better supported and compatible with all modern browsers.

    • @Crafterplayer00
      @Crafterplayer00 7 лет назад +2

      Because every year and not every four years a new OS comes out and everyone updates, because why not? It is free and was always free.

    • @mozardthebest
      @mozardthebest 7 лет назад +2

      Kiyan Kayser It only started being free with Mavericks.

    • @myHorribleMusic
      @myHorribleMusic 6 лет назад

      Um... not true.

    • @RFLCPTR
      @RFLCPTR 6 лет назад

      Penguinator You could either buy the Install CD or Just Download it from got old Apple Store

  • @ThatOneWindowsFan
    @ThatOneWindowsFan 21 день назад +3

    The amount of Windows fanboys that are triggered in the comments shows how genius this was.

  • @distantj
    @distantj 6 лет назад +13

    I'm a Mac fanboy. BUT can I just say, Windows 7 was absolutely awesome. I didn't like 8, 10 is better than 8, but 7 was bloody brilliant. So is OSX (which we're still running now, just with 'big cat' updates). Both great stuff, Win 7 was epic. Cheers.

    • @9852323
      @9852323 16 дней назад

      I disagree. 8 was better than 10. 10 was so slow and full of bloat and spyware..plus the security system in it was annoying as hell when trying to install software. People only say that because of the start menu which wasn’t even that bad and could easily be fixed by installing the old school start menu that’s actually even better than windows 8 and 10s start menu combined because it’s the same start menu as 7.

  • @LittleBIGRacer
    @LittleBIGRacer 10 лет назад +27

    While Mac OS and UNIX platform as a whole is superior to Windows's NT architecture, Bertrand was an asshole towards Microsoft and unlike Vista, Windows 7 was actually a great upgrade. Don't worry though, he left Apple a while ago. He was always super harsh though.

    • @louet91
      @louet91 3 года назад

      nobody nowadays would ever conceive a system like Windows with DLLs, registry, antivirus etc...

  • @damienlobb85
    @damienlobb85 2 года назад +6

    Wow, they really missed the mark on this one. Windows 7 was the best OS Microsoft made. If it was just a different version of Vista, it just goes to show how capable Vista could have been from the start had Microsoft spent more time refining and improving Vista before releasing it.

  • @NomadJedi
    @NomadJedi 10 лет назад +29

    My mind is fucked... Snow Leopard and 7 came out the same year, yet 7 still seems fresh while SL feels obsolete already.

    • @mario54671
      @mario54671 10 лет назад +3

      That's because Microsoft continues to support it. Apple no longer supports Snow Leopard. They did for a long time, but you can't move forward if you keep supporting an old OS. I mean… my iMac came with Leopard. I got Snow Leopard for $30, Lion for $30, Mountain Lion for $20, and Mavericks for free. Yosemite will likely be free as well.
      They don't support old OSs, but the Macs tend to support quite a few releases before they become unsupported… then those unsupported Macs can still last another year or so. So… everyone's given the opportunity to upgrade and keep their Macs supported and alive for some time. Sticking with Snow Leopard and complaining how it's "obsolete" because your Mac "feels old with it" is on you for not upgrading. (Mavericks is free…)

    • @ChrissonatorOFL
      @ChrissonatorOFL 10 лет назад

      ***** Yea, updating the OS constantly like that, I'd hate that... by the time you get comfortable and find all the quarks, etc. here comes a new OS to upgrade to...

    • @NomadJedi
      @NomadJedi 10 лет назад

      ***** I see your point Chris, but OS X updates aren't as radical as Windows, save the new Yosemite. For example, Mavericks was mostly under the hood improvements and Mountain Lion simply added new apps and the NC; the last radical OS X update was Leopard.
      And ***** updating OS X every year was probably cheaper and more reliable than updating Vista to 7 and then 8

    • @ChrissonatorOFL
      @ChrissonatorOFL 10 лет назад

      ***** Most of the updates to Windows are very minor, since they're not whole OS upgrades, that usually will get released altogether in a service pack, so one doesn't have to re-download every single update that came before the service pack.
      With Mac OS, you have Mac OS 10.0 (Cheetah), 10.1 (Puma), 10.2 (Jaguar), etc. the latest stable release being 10.9.5, being a minor update to Mavericks, since Mavericks is 10.9. With 10.10 being Yosemite.
      For example, my copy of Windows 7 comes with SP1, so it's 6.1.7601, whereas Windows 7 pre-SP1 was 6.1.7600, so I don't need to worry about any of the updates before SP1, since they're included with SP1.
      Unfortunately, there will not be a SP2, which would probably make it then 6.1.7602, since Microsoft is already working on Windows 9, which if Microsoft's good/bad pattern holds up, will be much better than Windows 8, for one, they're adding back in the option to have the traditional start menu rather than the metro tile screen, which is great, if you don't have a touch screen, although, it's not that hard to navigate by mouse.
      Windows 8 being 6.2.9200 and Windows 8.1 is 6.3.9600.

    • @mario54671
      @mario54671 10 лет назад

      ***** Yes, you are correct in that the OS X updates are *not* like service packs, as they are major releases every year. *However*, what they change is very minor. With OS X updates, the core doesn't change, but they massively change things under the hood, and they tweak things that they found most users really hated (based on feedback).
      Granted, OS X updates weren't always "every year," they used to be every *other* year, but starting with Mountain Lion, they became annual.
      I mean, given that these major releases are now free, I'd much rather do this than pay $200 for the new OS (I quote the more expensive price, because this gets you the complete version of the OS) that's still backwards in every way. Maybe this will change though, seeing that apparently Windows 9 doesn't change too much of Windows 8… but I'm pessimistic on whether or not it'll fix the core problems of Windows.

  • @reinaldofanuel5892
    @reinaldofanuel5892 9 лет назад +5

    is this guy who explain the operating system still working at apple?

  • @waltergsarts
    @waltergsarts 17 дней назад +1

    Windows 7 stills alive, Snow Leopard in the oblivion.

  • @Person-fr5md
    @Person-fr5md 9 лет назад +12

    He bashed windows 7 and yet windows 7 was more refined faster and sold more then snow leopard and became the highest grossing item on amazon and sold out in japan in 36 hours and received critical acclaim by critics and users saying the speed and features and was said by a critic that windows 7 was a better os then snow leopard, then again it was 2 months before it launched so I guess that the moral of the story is not to judge a book by it cover unless the book says twilight. Windows 7 FTW!!

    • @LookItIsHope
      @LookItIsHope 8 лет назад

      +Dada Windows ME was worse than on release XP.

    • @j800r
      @j800r 8 лет назад

      +Fuk this Sh1t Where's your source? If used both environments and I can tell you it never got better than Snow Leopard when it comes to OSX. Of course it would sell more, you can't compare sales because the way both ecosystems work is so incredibly different. OSX is only available on a Mac, Windows is the standard on every desktop computer that's not a Mac. Not to mention you can run Windows on a Mac so often the OSX audience is also part of the Windows audience.

    • @Person-fr5md
      @Person-fr5md 8 лет назад

      ***** since apple switched to intel based cpus the new mac os x's can run on pc hardware through VMs and dual booting.
      and i have used anything after leopard

    • @j800r
      @j800r 8 лет назад

      Fuk this Sh1t I am not counting illegal methods that violate the ToS. You can't measure performance and stability if running on a hackintosh.

    • @Person-fr5md
      @Person-fr5md 8 лет назад +1

      ***** you can totally make a hackintosh without breaking the law by buying a disc for osx installing the damn thing and buying compatible parts

  • @ThunderwingMatrix
    @ThunderwingMatrix 14 лет назад +5

    @Sven88bac From my experience, Vista is actually quite a strong foundation. It's just sluggish as hell. WIndows 7 is Vista with a HUGE performance increase, and I like it. Fast, pretty and customizable. Right now, my dream machine is a fully maxed-out 27" iMac running Win 7. THE best closed-source OS out there right now, though Mac OS X is not far behind, and still quite impressive.

  • @PLeyava
    @PLeyava 15 лет назад +3

    THANK YOU for also realizing this!! Apple even took things from Vista, like Coverflow...Preview Pane in Vista, just a small example. Microsoft has a MUCH larger market share than Apple, so they can't drop things w/o being compatible and getting crap from the world. Vista tried to change things, like OS-X did, but failed because no one wanted to change.

  • @MarcTatossian
    @MarcTatossian 15 лет назад +2

    nah what he means is that Vista has the same technologies like Win 7 (dll, registry etc.) So he means Windows 7 is a build on top of a bad OS. While OS X is a build on a good OS

  • @TheYellowPolarBear
    @TheYellowPolarBear 9 лет назад +3

    Well Windows 7 is the most used operating system with 52% of computer users using it. So, Apple, don't try to make fun of Windows 7.

    • @racerhomie
      @racerhomie 9 лет назад

      TheYellowPolarBear it was vista they mainly made fun of,actually snow leopard is to leopard what windows 7 is to vista

  • @SlyHikari03
    @SlyHikari03 4 года назад +4

    Bertrand was a legendary man.
    Also, these ppl probably use both windows and Mac OS.

    • @fou8418
      @fou8418 3 года назад

      Still is!

  • @macdaniel6029
    @macdaniel6029 7 лет назад +3

    Snow Leopard was my first Apple system back in 2010. It was OK, but seriously - Win 7 is still my favourite OS of all times and will always be.
    SL looked pretty old when Mountain Lion came out and was 100% obsolete with Mavericks.
    Win 7 still looks modern and is a pleasure to use. It is stable, does not spy on you and is supported very well.
    Sierra and High Sierra are better than Win 10, but this is not a hard competition since win 98 is far better than win 10 ;-)

  • @polaroidesilva9037
    @polaroidesilva9037 4 года назад +3

    "Microsoft its a Bitch apple its a god."
    -apple fan boy

  • @robertalexandru11
    @robertalexandru11 7 лет назад +4

    Lmao what is this guy talking about? He's like "ah Windows I bad cause it uses dll's and the registry" yet they are both not visible to the user without special actions. And not to mention the registry is far more easy to use and advanced than those shitty .plist files in Mac OS X. Copied features? You said the same about Windows Vista, yet Microsoft were planning all the features "you invented" way before you, and if Longhorn were to be released, it would have crushed every version of Mac, even the modern ones. And not to mention, Windows 7 kills Snow Leopard. New technology? Well, I was surprised to how similar macOS Sierra is to Mac OS 9. Same installation technique for most of the apps, same Finder bar, even a lot of the same sounds. Have to say more? Wait, isn't that "everything everyone cares about"? We don't care about your "inovation", no experienced computer user would buy any of your overpriced and underpowered stuff just to experience Mac OS.

    • @sociocritical
      @sociocritical 7 лет назад

      this is so wrong.
      1st longhorn ended up in vista so it was released
      2nd mac os 9 has nothing in common at all with mac os x. os 9 is based on classic macintosh while os x is based on nextstep which is a unix based system. i used os 9 and i can't imagine a single sound or icon which has stayed the same except of the finder icon and the apple.

  • @giorgiotek-604
    @giorgiotek-604 Год назад +1

    He made fun of windows 7 back in the days, but I bet that close to nobody remembers and uses snow leopard instead there's still a lot of people out there still using and loving Windows 7 which, by the way, is still perfectly fine to use and compatible with new programs

    • @natazeze
      @natazeze 11 месяцев назад

      true but it's like android, you can install it on crappy hardwares instead of ios that can be used only on apple devices

  • @9852323
    @9852323 16 дней назад

    Snow leopard and windows 7 were good operating systems. Back when macOS and windows didn’t suck and were beautiful to look at.

  • @Jeremy_White75
    @Jeremy_White75 15 лет назад +1

    Apple took nothing from Vista. Cover flow was in itunes a long time ago and was slowly implemented into the rest of the OS. This preview pane - are you talking about Quicklook? Completely different.
    And a larger market share doesn't always indicate a better product. I'm not saying anything about that other than that. Take it for what its worth.
    Not meant to insult, just to inform.

  • @W3ntFromPCtoMac
    @W3ntFromPCtoMac 14 лет назад +1

    It starts up in 25 seconds, takes two to four seconds to start up an application. I have experienced both, and have come to the conclusion that I like the MacBook Pro. Fast, reliable, and not anytime in the two years I have owned it have I had to call/email Apple for anything, not even broken parts. Nothing broke. It's still running great to this day.

  • @bumblebee777
    @bumblebee777 4 года назад +2

    it's funny cuz 7 was more popular than macOS 10, how funny..;

  • @Dyl_Apple
    @Dyl_Apple 3 года назад +1

    Why does the watermark say you recorded this? You didn’t.

  • @nikolaipaul4613
    @nikolaipaul4613 9 лет назад +23

    His example with DLLs is bollocks. The core of iOS uses a similar technology to share libraries accross applications. This is simply bashing without proper arguments.

    • @OliverJD
      @OliverJD 9 лет назад +3

      It's like saying Windows 7 is shit because it works differently to OS X. 9 times out of 10 the end user doesn't know about the registry or the defragmenter once they've turned on auto defragment and the User Account Control is helpful if anything. It lets you know when dodgy programs want to take a wank on your system.

    • @tiggerbiggo
      @tiggerbiggo 9 лет назад +3

      ***** pretty much everything they said there is stupid, apart from the registry one, which sometimes does cause huge problems in windows environments, with entries often being left there by uninstallers.

    • @hanro50
      @hanro50 9 лет назад +1

      ...Mac is based off Unix, Linux is based off Unix...Android is based off Linux...and Windows is NOT based off Unix...Now what OS is more original?

    • @hanro50
      @hanro50 9 лет назад

      Hanro Lareman And I could see the last time Mac got a meager UI change, I mean a old desktop mac I have setting in my closet somewhere and it's version off mac looks almost exactly the same
      At-least windows changes its Icons, like the icon for the disk drive and streamlines some off the UI every few releases, Mac just adds a some stuff...and change up enough so that there older computers can't update and new software thus stops being developed for set computer...

    • @mrapter7
      @mrapter7 9 лет назад +1

      +Hanro Lareman Not a fanboy of either, I have a 1200$ gaming / productivity PC and a 2015 MBP retina. That being said, unique isn't always the best, and up until a new kernel with windows 8 / 10 for an OS across devices, Windows has purposely stayed the same for legacy applications, that was one of the biggest points. However, Unix is a FAR more advanced system and is a much more stable platform, and MS's file system has been getting long in the tooth.

  • @nomearod
    @nomearod 2 года назад +1

    Recover 6GB of disk space is because they change the way of calculating bytes from 1024 to 1KB to 1000 to 1KB.

  • @rhodeliaalcantara2675
    @rhodeliaalcantara2675 8 лет назад +44

    Too bad Windows 7 beats your Snow Leopard.

  • @ComradeSlice
    @ComradeSlice 14 лет назад +1

    Let's not forget anti-virus software, replacement parts, support. That's a big dose. Keeping a Windows PC running can be expensive. It may seem cheap but you pay for it in the end.

  • @W3ntFromPCtoMac
    @W3ntFromPCtoMac 14 лет назад +2

    Actually I had a 2007 HP with a 2.33Ghz Intel Duo 2 Core and upgraded to 4gb of DDR2 and I've seen glaciers move faster than Vista. It took my computer on the first day I had it over a minute to start up, I was listening to my iPod so i looked at the time on it. I had time to go make myself something to eat in the time it took for Vista to open any applications, I thought it was fast considering my last computer was a 1999 POS Dell. Then the hospital were I work bought me a Mac (continued)

  • @rockerirwin
    @rockerirwin 9 лет назад +28

    this guy again, we need subtitles

  • @pp2devane
    @pp2devane 12 лет назад

    What? You can configure the Apple mouse to have a left and right click. Some people prefer to have the mouse as just one button and some prefer to have a left and right click. On the Mac you can configure which side you want to do what. And on the macbook laptops you can click with 2 fingers for right click and 1 finger for left click.
    It seems you don't have a clue.

  • @NasalChain
    @NasalChain 7 лет назад +12

    Registry editor could become much powerful tool for people who understand windows to optimizing it. I would consider that a feature.

    • @wesleyjordan8349
      @wesleyjordan8349 7 лет назад

      And for the other 99% of the world who doesn't know how to use that stupid Registry.......In other words, the Registry is NOT a feature. If you think so you're a nerd.

    • @NasalChain
      @NasalChain 7 лет назад

      For them, it's just there when they need to.
      I know mac is good to be defended. Eventhough, my mac friends ended up installing windows 7 in their machine that time. Or lets face the future (present), today windows 7 is still well updated. On the other hand, snow leopard is dropped.

    • @benjaminestay1345
      @benjaminestay1345 7 лет назад +1

      Wesley Jordan do you know what is the use of the registry? Well I going to only say that you can edit important documents of the OS and other ...

    • @RFLCPTR
      @RFLCPTR 6 лет назад

      The Problem: Most People kill their Windows by fucking the Registry

    • @irixperson
      @irixperson 4 года назад

      No, the registry is not a "feature" by any extension of what constitutes a "feature." In fact, the registry's very construction is misleading to anybody who is familiar with how the NT kernel's flat-database configuration system works. There is no actual hierarchy to the configuration database and "strings" are not categorized.
      The registry is a problem because A: it's extremely easy for malware to implement damaging strings because Windows applications now inject registry strings for mundane things, due to Microsoft's poor implementation of the feature and almost non-existent separation of application strings from system component strings; B: UNIX and UNIX-like kernels handle their configurations laughably better in comparison to Microsoft's registry. They implement tiered database and don't store all component information in one single location, which makes it difficult for malware to exact vital files and allows distributions to optimize their own system based off the kernel.

  • @justbram5198
    @justbram5198 14 лет назад

    the strength of OS X is the fact that it only runs in apple devices...which means its a full hardware-software integration....OS X is designed to run on macs....windows is not designed to run on a very specific system.

  • @melodyofailingheart9400
    @melodyofailingheart9400 8 лет назад +14

    Windows 7 was the best. Clearly wins and leaves any OS X in the dust. The froggie conveniently forgot to mention that Windows works on any fucking thing

    • @2003ryans
      @2003ryans 7 лет назад +2

      *including* Macs themselves

    • @eskimopi8617
      @eskimopi8617 6 лет назад

      Windows can never compete with an OS designed for specific hardware with a unix core. Its just the laws of gravity let alone the dll infrastructure of the OS.

  • @KenoshaCaptures
    @KenoshaCaptures 6 лет назад

    But he didn't show the sales of macOS vs. Windows 7. Wonder why...

  • @andymate2006
    @andymate2006 8 лет назад +1

    I found Mac OS X Leopard quite buggy but then Snow Leopard came out it was a huge improvement. Loved it and still use it. Even though I have updated to the latest OS and got a newer Mac I still love going back to Snow Leopard.

  • @majinbug3450
    @majinbug3450 6 лет назад +2

    Ironic how in 2018 Microsoft's latest version of Windows can't take over the market because of the many users of Windows 7

    • @natazeze
      @natazeze 11 месяцев назад +1

      it's 2023 and my work PC at home is still happily in windows 7

  • @ibpointless2
    @ibpointless2 15 лет назад

    10.4 and 10.5 are new OS's just like Vista was a new OS to XP. Windows 7 is actual Windows 6.1 with Vista being Windows 6.0. Your comment is fail.

  • @ЙорданВасилев-ц6и
    @ЙорданВасилев-ц6и 6 лет назад +1

    The key is in the phrase "No end user should know about it". Good job Apple, herd the sheep

  • @WinningWaker
    @WinningWaker 4 года назад +3

    7 gets discontinued next week

  • @benhatto
    @benhatto 6 лет назад

    Why does one of the best operating systems only come with expensive computers that are half the performance of evenly priced windows machines?

  • @Intechdude300
    @Intechdude300 18 дней назад

    I miss that operating system. Stable, small footprint, uncluttered, and did everything it needed to do very well.

  • @boardljausn
    @boardljausn 3 месяца назад

    Went all the way from leopard to ventura and no update felt as good as from Leopard to SL. Just a rewritten, optimized OS that gave me back 6GB of my precious hard drive.

  • @toldaddy
    @toldaddy 15 лет назад +1

    No, it's old technology. It's been a core component of windows since 3.1, and it's a prime target for viruses. There are far more clean ways to manage an OS.
    Windows is better for games.. "entertainment" is too broad a claim. Between the two OSX has far more entertaining features out of the box, esp. iLife, and the overall functionality on the OS.

  • @shudson2759
    @shudson2759 15 лет назад

    not really it provides the same features that have been refined by rewriting every major application in 64bit: finder, quicktime ect. while it may look the same on top it works differently underneath

  • @olfrygt
    @olfrygt 14 лет назад

    I wonder why monsieur Serlet thinks, that a Windows User needs to use the Defragmentation frontend. It's completely automated. Just like in OSX. Laughing at a defrag-UI implies that an OSX user as well doesn't have to deal with defragmentation but also isnt provided with an easy way to configure defragmentation manually if he for whatever reason wants to.

  • @soareem6
    @soareem6 15 лет назад

    Why argue what's best. Personal preferences cannot be discussed. Everyone prefers one or the other depending on what they use it for. That is personal preference. Each OS has it's + and - depnding on what you use it for.

  • @namesurname4666
    @namesurname4666 4 года назад +1

    windows 10 has still all the things he said, disk defrag, dlls, registry...

  • @Dyl_Apple
    @Dyl_Apple 3 года назад +1

    Microsoft: **Releases Vista**
    Apple: **Murders Vista**
    Microsoft: **Tries to fix Vista by releasing Windows 7(a “better” Vista)**
    Apple: **Murders Windows 7**
    Microsoft: 👁👄👁

    • @LETTITBITYT
      @LETTITBITYT 2 года назад +3

      Windows 7 still usable, Snow Leopard don't

    • @Dyl_Apple
      @Dyl_Apple 2 года назад

      @@LETTITBITYT yeah, I know, I actually really liked 7, and even though it looks dated it’s still very useable by today’s standards

  • @toldaddy
    @toldaddy 15 лет назад +1

    Using the engine comparison - if a technology like "cold fusion" all of the sudden became available to fuel a car that was cost effective/more powerful, the internal combustive engine would be obsolete. What I'm getting at is there are newer more efficient foundations for an OS than that of windows. *shrug*
    I'm glad you had a good experience with Vista. However, the vast user experience has been horrible, even on high end machines.

  • @meowth27
    @meowth27 14 дней назад +1

    Funny how new Macos has so much access control.

  • @surya.r3463
    @surya.r3463 5 лет назад +1

    if apple copies it is called as reinvention and in the same way other company innovates it is known as copy

  • @Leofwine
    @Leofwine 13 лет назад

    @Sven88bac Indeed, Snow Leopard's Finder was completely REwritten in Cocoa and Mac OS X v.10.6 was made ready for 64-bit memory access and 64-bit technology. Windows 7, on the other hand, was just a facelift of Windows Vista.

  • @vb7200
    @vb7200 6 лет назад

    The Admin thin that Windows 7 does when you try to install apps happens on Macs too and it's worse... At least in Windows all you have to do it type in your password, on Macs you have to go digging through System Prefs to allow it to run

  • @ambazack
    @ambazack 8 лет назад +5

    How the hell is the registry bad?

    • @YandereLife
      @YandereLife 8 лет назад

      i have a registry backup which checks randomly tat is theregistry okay and if its not it fixes it

    • @adamstewart7856
      @adamstewart7856 8 лет назад +2

      Who the hell messes with the registry in the first place?

    • @IntellitechStudios
      @IntellitechStudios 7 лет назад

      Adam Stewart me

    • @adamstewart7856
      @adamstewart7856 7 лет назад

      ThatGTAFan720 Why?!

    • @IntellitechStudios
      @IntellitechStudios 7 лет назад

      Adam Stewart personalization features, modifying program installs, configuration, backups, plus whatever I usually in CMD.

  • @Sven88bac
    @Sven88bac  14 лет назад +1

    @TBytee Indeed, NT 6.1 so being some kind of service pack. At least an upgrade, while stile being based on Vista.

  • @olfrygt
    @olfrygt 14 лет назад

    in which way/parts did they change the architecture?

  • @katiedorsey7595
    @katiedorsey7595 6 лет назад +1

    Well all the xp users are running to 7 so you know, that's a lot of users

  • @starpier
    @starpier 14 лет назад +1

    same here, I am not either an apple or microsoft fanboy. if I had $1200 to spend for a notebook I'd absolutely go for the Macbook Pro. At this time I'd have to choose for a $600 ASUS. For desktop instead the Mac Pro could never be an option.

  • @pumaile
    @pumaile 15 лет назад

    Will Snow Leopard work on my PC ? :
    2 GB RAM Memory
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4000+ (2.11 GHz)
    nVidia GeForce 7300 LE (MSI)
    RealTek HD Audio Digital Output Sound Card
    Windows 7 RC1
    Please tell me !

  • @commentmachine1
    @commentmachine1 12 лет назад

    Well, it does, but only on certain machines. If you have an older Mac, try booting while holding the 6 and 4 keys. It boots in 64-bit.

  • @gilamunja
    @gilamunja 15 лет назад

    guys, macs are just the best. Windows 7 looks virtually the same as vista just a little change in the user interface. Yeh, it will be much better than vista, but snow leopard is just showing how far ahead apple are.

  • @Busisanimac
    @Busisanimac 7 лет назад

    Wonder what MAC is saying with Windows 10

  • @f11rob
    @f11rob 14 лет назад

    @koliop95 That whole sentence i wrote. It was about Quality so where did "Quantity" come from?

  • @starpier
    @starpier 15 лет назад

    linux requires you to build whenever you need to install something under copyright and it cannot replace many programs I often use. it needs to be more user friendly to be a valid alternative.

  • @Sven88bac
    @Sven88bac  14 лет назад

    @Shexo
    You're not getting it smartass. Yes, Snow Leopard is based on Leopard just like 7 is based on Windows Vista. He never denies any of that. But that's not the point. The point is that building on top of a strong foundation (Leopard) is good, but that building on top of a weak foundation (Vista) is NOT good. Do you get it now? Microsoft should start over, build something new instead of keep fixing their mistakes and calling it a "good" OS.

  • @BuffetNeverDies
    @BuffetNeverDies 12 лет назад

    @skotters you don't have to just put two fingers on the trackpad to right click

  • @Sven88bac
    @Sven88bac  15 лет назад +3

    Apple already supports gaming (and yes natively). Every new Mac has enough power to play new games but the developers have to write it. Unfortunately the Windows market share is a lot bigger than Mac OS X market share, and because of things like Windows using DirectX (non open source) and OS X using OpenGL (open source), less games become available for the Mac.
    Luckily more and more games like Call of Duty 4 for example are getting available for the Mac in natively versions.

  • @paragjyotideka1246
    @paragjyotideka1246 7 лет назад

    Apple , I really do respect your creativity and simplicity of All Mac OS but no matter how much you try to make fun of windows , Windows 7 is the best OS ever made .

  • @Michael234gr
    @Michael234gr 15 лет назад

    why apple does mac to support and pcs???

  • @Sven88bac
    @Sven88bac  15 лет назад

    We have a winner here! Congratulations marc180292, you're one of the very few people on RUclips who understands stuff.

  • @JonnyInfinite
    @JonnyInfinite 8 лет назад +11

    This guy is the kind of bullshitting yesman that currently holds sway at Apple. Ive should be nowhere near software UI, Forstall has been sacked for basically one big error, despite being one of the most brilliant designers (Jobs kept him on board because of this) and Cook has no real vision. As windows 7 was a huge success the stupid 'I'm a Mac' ads were quickly dropped and they focused on attacking Android. You lose again Apple, the tablet and phone market is so oversaturated that the lack of innovation is gonna bite em on the arse. No one wants Apple Watch, but they will want AR/VR.

    • @RFLCPTR
      @RFLCPTR 6 лет назад

      There is one Thing that Apple has to sell:
      And thats original exclusive Software

    • @aidenx3vv
      @aidenx3vv 16 дней назад

      Looking back on this comment, what do you think about the situation with Apple now?

    • @JonnyInfinite
      @JonnyInfinite 16 дней назад

      @@aidenx3vv still totally agree on Forstall - there is still a lack of innovation generally. It's surprising how they are still coasting on the setup from Jobs... can't see that lasting another 6 years. Apple's biggest win recently is the switch to their own chips, which Jobs started off with the 'A' series anyway. The only thing wrong was the watch and AR/VR. Watch has worked and VR has flopped. I guess I expected the tech to be farther along by now tbh and the implementation has been worse than even the likes of MetaQuest.

  • @mexchico17
    @mexchico17 14 лет назад

    They just waste time bashing Windows. When your product is so good, you actually hurt your image exaggerating the negative points about the competition. I like their presentations when they only focus on their new features, that's what I actually came to see you for!

  • @sanGuziy
    @sanGuziy 14 лет назад

    @ROCKY19892 what actually could I do wrong? I just installed the browser and after reboot got blue screen, that happened 2 times for me... It is great guys that it works for but I just wanted to say that it is not always so... I am certainly not newbie with PC)) Macs - yes, I am a newbie)

  • @WatercraftGames
    @WatercraftGames 2 года назад +1

    Ironic how the features he mocks are useful things that macos lacks

  • @JJtoob
    @JJtoob 13 лет назад

    @limusturim Well, you are right about one thing, I should rephrase that last statement: Nobody has been able to infect Mac computers, or at least not en masse like it happens with Windows computers. And it is also true that the Windows file system is indeed prone to fragmentation, but what I meant by saying that people don't have to worry much on newer systems is because the task is enabled by default to run every week. The only drawback to that setup is that users need to leave their pc's idle.

  • @ki2594
    @ki2594 15 лет назад

    ...Mac's are faster than vista machines. The OS isn't bloated at all, which is what slows windows down so much. Snow Leopard fixes all of Leopards imperfections and improves whats already on it. why? Because they're already so far ahead of Vista they don't need to make a completely different OS. Vista in Apple's eyes was a step backwards for MS, so nothing really needs to be done.

  • @RyanCalebAstillero
    @RyanCalebAstillero 3 года назад

    ooops. Hows the Market Share?

  • @HFLOfficial
    @HFLOfficial 12 лет назад

    You know that you can use any mouse that works on Windows on Mac. Even the Magic Mouse has integrated right click.

  • @greymoon6720
    @greymoon6720 5 лет назад

    MacOS still old technology... Unix, qt, openGL, all old, still used in MacOS, so honestly, what's the difference from Windows using old technology also?

  • @fortnight_0
    @fortnight_0 3 года назад

    what will their reaction that windows 7 is a succsess?

  • @netto4
    @netto4 12 лет назад

    Apple does have it when you install new software it asks for the main password. E.g when you update Office.

  • @zeropoint48
    @zeropoint48 7 лет назад

    Everyone is complaining about windows 7 being supported but, why support an old OS when everyone on Snow Leopard gets free upgrades for life to the next OS, or until that device is no longer supported.

  • @kylevk
    @kylevk 15 лет назад

    Requires Vista or greater. Doesn't that mean XP??

  • @f11rob
    @f11rob 14 лет назад

    Mac users, You think windows sucks?It doesn't one of the main reasons why windows gets errors is because the hardware is cheap or the drivers need to be upgraded etc. This is why gaming pc's stand strong because of quality parts. Macs are built with quality, if it was made with hardware from dell it'd probs die. Mac's have a lot of ASUS hardware, If you want a reliable PC Asus or Custom is the way to go.

  • @DheerajYadav-sn8yt
    @DheerajYadav-sn8yt 2 года назад

    Did steve jobs was on medical leave during this keynote?

  • @ibpointless2
    @ibpointless2 15 лет назад

    Isn't it the goal of Technology to make things in life easier. Would you rather cook your food in a oven and wait a hour or use a microwave to cook it in 3 minutes?

  • @KingofSenf
    @KingofSenf 15 лет назад

    what keynote was this?

  • @kent143lou
    @kent143lou 10 лет назад +37

    IOS7 is the vista of IOS XD

  • @sanGuziy
    @sanGuziy 14 лет назад

    you've never installed safari or never reinstalled the system?:)

  • @adarmarcus7168
    @adarmarcus7168 7 лет назад +1

    Snow Leopard is one of the best releases of OS X, very fast and stable. Windows 7, to me is the only version of windows I can tolerate. Everything before 7 is insecure and basically obsolete, and windows 8 and 10 both have a ui that doesn't work very well. their unified operating system idea sounds good in theory but really they built an operating system that's not particularly good for either. never mind all the annoying maintenance stuff that comes along with using windows. All of the above is why I'm typing this on a MacBook Pro right now

    • @irixperson
      @irixperson 2 года назад

      @@NintendoDude888 I've had my MacBook Pro for years now and it has been reliable. Before that, I had one for ~8 years and there were no issues with reliability, only obsolescence.

  • @dantaylor53
    @dantaylor53 7 лет назад +2

    But can it run Crysis?

  • @PallyLIVE
    @PallyLIVE 12 лет назад

    It's also the most rounded and useful. It can do more out of the box than any other OS.