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There’s nothing like enjoying the magic and mystery of a good movie. When we’re truly drawn in it’s like we’re temporarily part of another world. However, sometimes we go back to our old favorites and realize that things may not have made nearly as much sense as we thought they did. In fact, sometimes our favorite movies have gaping holes that should have ruined the entire story had the director not used sleight of hand and broken the rules of their own world for narrative convenience. In retrospect, the plots of these 10 popular flicks are a bit of a mess.
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10. X-Men: Days of Future Past
9. Batman Begins
8. 28 Days Later
7. The Twilight Saga
6. The Phantom Menace
5. Sherlock Holmes: A Game Of Shadows
4. The Karate Kid
3. The Dark Knight Rises
2. Man of Steel
1. Attack of the Clones
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Batman Begins has an even bigger plot hole.
The League of Shadows plans to destroy Gotham because it is so corrupt and full of crime. Yet their leader admits the League has spent years using economic manipulation to create crime and corruption. Um....what?
"We're going to destroy this corrupt city! Never mind the fact we corrupted it in the first place. We were bored."
They dont hesitate from anything to achive their plans, so why they hasitate from that? They dont care about Gotham and how corrupt they are. So basically they are only ok with no corruption and their plan was to create corruption to destroy, what they thought was the source of corruption, Gotham!!!
luka simundza Since when does a crazy cult leader have to make sense remember Jim Jones.
The Dark Knight Rises isn't even better.
Gotham is save, because all criminals are in prison. But then there comes Bane and frees all the prisoners to fulfill Ras Al Ghuls destiny. lol
I also like the fact everyone should have died from the microwave machine as well, seeing as we are about 60% water.
***** Why??? The machine was never targeted against people
Please learn the definition of a plot hole. Character decisions do not fall under plot hole. People make dumb choices and do dumb things. Those aren't plot holes.
I disagree. It's definitely poor writing, when the characters make stupid decisions just to drag the story in a certain direction, but alas, not plot holes. :)
***** Jordan is right. A plot hole, in it's entirety is as follows: a gap or inconsistency in a storyline that creates a paradox in the story that cannot be reconciled with any explanation.
***** So, MoS, TDKR, SH , AOTC shoudn't have been on this list ever
If it is an exceptionally terrible decision that makes no sense, then it becomes a plot hole.
If you just keep using the same term for everything you don't like about something, the words begin to lose power. Not all bad writing is a plot hole, and not all plot holes make bad writing. Understanding the differences is what I believe is important.
I’m really proud of myself. I’ve seen none of these movies!
Kind of ironic, seeing that your user name is The Watcher
The one that always grinds my gears is "The Matrix" when Cypher is having dinner with the agent who was monitoring him on board the ship, someone had to plug him in and press start 0.o
***** Hey don't get me wrong I love the films but that always bugged me
He was an expert in his field, it's not inconceivable that he might've devised a way around that.
Martyn Greaves Yeah nice try but NO!
Just before the scene when Neo comes in and startles Cypher and he gives him the drink, he was setting up the meeting with Smith, he looked suspiciously nervous like he'd been caught but then realised it was Neo who probably didn't know enough at this point to know wht he was up to. Maybe he also set some sort of timer/program to make the call to jack out once they were done. Far-fetched maybe, but far-fetched shit happens :)
***** Cypher enters back in the Matrix with the help of Agent Smith, the movie don't show this, but Cypher goes to Matrix in the old way. But they don't show not a clue about how the machines take the body back... Cypher before have been take by the machine was in the "reality" ships among with the others characters, and nobody suspect that the body is not dead? And how the machines take the body at Stealth mode? Nobody even cares about the "dead" body...
The way you prenounce the Wan in Obi Wan really gets on my Star Wars geeky bad side !!!!
B Ambo He has trouble pronouncing things on all the Top 10 videos
B Ambo The way you "prenounce" [sic] "pronounce" really gets my goat.
B Ambo But that's his accent though... and since it's written as: "Obi Wan" and not, "Obi Won" technically, it's being pronounced properly. It's just that an American accent often softens sounds that are otherwise more sharp in a English accent.
B Ambo Mind providing us with a clue as to how to pronounce the word properly?
Stanisław Wiśniewski
dictionary.reference.com/browse/wan?s=t
Didn't Obi-Wan see Jango Fett's Manderlorian armor when he confronted him and his son (Bobba) while investigating the Kamino cloning facility. This gave Obi-Wan a sign that something was fishy (get it, there on Kamino). Jango knew that Obi-Wan had seen them on Curuscant. He then (probably) thought well it's better to strike first than second therefore his actions. NOT A PLOT HOLE.
I do believe that you are correct.
Even if it was an illogical decision on Jango's part, dumb decisions aren't plot holes.
10. DOFP - They released Magneto because Charles thought they needed him to locate and persuade Mystique because he was unaware that she had fallen out with Eric and was "doing her own thing".
9. Batman Begins - The microwave emitter worked on a specific wavelength and was a directed weapon.
8. 28 Days Later - Even maggots can tell the difference between living and dead flesh
6. TPM - Neither Obiwan, QCG nor Maul knew about the forcefield doors so they were all equally surprised by them. Also, Obiwan would be reluctant to use force speed to close the distance between himself and another force using lightsabers wielder because of he risk of being impaled!
2. MoS - The elders didn't believe the planet was doomed which is why they ignored Jor-El's warnings and suggestions. Zod and Co were imprisoned for "300 cycles of somatic reconditioning" so the intention was clearly to rehabilitate them during their sentence (for a period of 300 cycles - whatever that might be) rather than lock them up and throw away the key!
1. AOTC - Jango didn't attack Obiwan! He tried to leave Camino because, after their brief conversation, he (correctly) suspected the Jedi was "on to him" but was intercepted before he could take off.
TheShreester excellent observations i am impressed you should consider setting up your own you tube channel
I've watched A Game of Shadows multiple times, and figured the plot hole out... if you watch the part where Holmes and Watson enter the blown up room, you'll see that the bomb did not have the most significant yield, and that some people survived the blast. The bullet was insurance.
The Matulaak but why would they believe the bomb would fail? Why think you need insurance? Surely Moriarity, who is Holmes' most evil nemesis, would know what was needed to kill everybody in the room?
zatoth13 He would of course know the yield of a bomb small enough to inconspicuously fit inside the cake, though. The bomb was meant to cause more chaos than killing.
The Matulaak Exactly. But even by late-19th century medical standards, they probably would have spotted a bullet hole and it don't take no Sherlock Holmes to figure out that the one guy in the blown up room who was bombed _and_ shot was the likely target.
Captain Freedom except when shrapnel pegs you with enough little holes to have someone mistake you for a gross lump of swiss mess....
Number 1 should be the stupid ending of Avengers which totally ruined the movie for me. Why would the government nuke the entire city when the aliens can be killed by arrows and handguns? Where the F is the army? Where are the jets, the tanks the navy??? Instead they all just relied on the avengers and just watch the news with popcorn...
If you'd watch Captain America: The Winter Soldier, you'd understand that half of S.H.I.E.L.D. is run by Hydra for the past 40 years. And they have been very sneaky in covering their tracks and records from anyone, including the Avengers.
This is why superhero stuff doesn't work too well. The plots are terrible and a mess at the same time.
***** Yeah, but who are we to judge?!?!? If it pleases comic book fans, that fine. We can't say crap about it though.
***** The failsafe makes perfect sense. He was still rational and lucid when he was under Lokis control, the only thing the mind control changed was his allegiance and loyalty. In fact, it would be weird if they DIDN'T include a way to turn it off. Eventually he is going to want to retrieve the tesseract or at least just turn off the portal. This is why only Loki's staff can turn it off, because this decision was only Loki's to make. Tony was immune to the mind control because the arc reactor was in the way.
Also why couldn't more advanced aliens shoot down a nuke? Thor's hammer was suppose to be more advance technology why didn't they just use that, also in the original Journey into mystery featuring Thor, he defeated a bunch of alien invaders all by himself that were tougher than any shown in the movie, except maybe Loki that could catch arrow in flight and survive punches from Hulk unharmed as seen in Thor the dark world assuming Hulk did punch him and not just an illusion of him.
The Karate Kid one is wrong. The rules state you cannot hot someone in the face with a close fist, kick are allowed and we see two of these before the infamous 'crane' move both awarded points.
estebanrey Agreed!
Full kicks to the face are not actually allowed (body shots, yes), however: The cobra kai kid runs into Daniel's kick, which makes it a perfectly legal kick, and a win!
estebanrey I always figured Daniel kicked him in the hair and anything that could fix that 80's hairdo deserves double the points imo. :D
Well, it's hard to ruin The Phantom Manace since it was already ruined.
TERMINATOR franchise.....
Skynet is suicidal, by sending a terminator back in time they aren't preventing John Connors existence, they are actually causing his existence.
la dodgers 4 life They are also causing their own existence though.
lilly bell Im sure humans could have developed said technology on their own, like every other technology we have. but since the timeline changed once kyle skeeted in sarah, its irrelevant.
Yes T2 can really give you a headache when you think about it too much. They try and prevent Judgement Day but if they were successful they are preventing KRs team travel John Connors birth and everything that led them up to their attempts to prevent Judgement Day.
It would be like building a time machine and travelling back to when you were in the womb and killing your own mother (I'm not saying you or i or anyone would by the way) by killing her you are preventing your birth and the invention of the time machine in the first place..... Again a big loop.
I heard a theory that if a time machine is ever invented it will not be possible too travel back in time to a date before the machine was invented, I can't remember the exact details of why.
la dodgers 4 life Yeah it's called "The Grandfather paradox" and you're right, it's a real mind fuck. Even though T2 is probably my favourite Terminator movie it definitely has a few issues (dare i say plot holes) when it comes it it's rules on time travel.
You see T2 uses a "in flux" time travel system. That is to say when you travel back in time you can change events that originally occurred, and in the process alter your own timeline. This is a totally legitimate system to use in time travel fiction (though as you've pointed out can create allot of paradoxes and headaches), the only real problem with it in this context is that it sort of contradicts the rules that Cameron had created for the first Terminator (which as i mentioned previously uses a "whatever happened, happened" time travel system).
But hey, writing time travel can be hard. Even Back ti the Future, one of my all time favourite time travel stories, falls prey to some of these problems. For the most part it appears to use the "in flux" system, but then there's that iconic Marvin Berry johnny b. goode scene, which seems to use the "whatever happened, happened" rules.
In a weird sort of way Terminator 3, which i would regard as my least favourite Terminator film (well aside form the god awful monstrosity that was Terminator: Salvation that is), sort of rectifies this and makes it all make sense... Well... sort of, but i have a few problems with that as well. Anyway since i've waffled on for some time now, at the risk of boring you, i should probably leave it at that lol.
I guess the lesson to be learned from all of this is that if you're going to write something involving time travel you should probably first decide the rules you want to use for your time travel system, and then stick to them.
Since most of this stuff is very hypothetical/theoretical it doesn't necessarily have to makes sense within the confines of our real worlds laws of physics, but it helps if it at least it makes sense within whatever rules you have created for the fictional universe you are writing within.
Season five of Lost, though riddled with many narrative problems, is actually a great example of this.
In man of steel is the bigger question: why in the hell would they want the earth to be like krypton if they would be like gods if they dont do so?
They were changing the atmosphere.. And in that movie the atmosphere worked like kryptonite
Changing atmosphere to be able to breath properly, martha kent said clark found it hard to breath at first, so they wouldnt need the breather is all
Iluvatar Gott FURTHERMORE, why didn't they just terra form mars once they had Cal's blood sample and therefore the codex? They could have just slipped off quietly and done it and come back with an army to capture Cal-El.
*****
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martian manhunter is obsolete in comparison with the power of superman"
Superman has said manhunter is more powerful than himself
some fire and mm is beaten
Regarding Karate Kid: I just double-checked the movie, and these are the stated rules (quote):
"Everything above your waist is a point. You can hit the head, you can hit the sternum, kidneys, and the ribs, got it?"
So... if you hit your opponent's head, that gives you a point. Which is a *good* thing... you *want* points. Points are how you win. If you hit them in the *knee*, however, that gets you disqualified.
Yeah, I don't pretend to understand the ethics of martial arts tournaments. :) But the point is, it's not a plot hole, because there's no contradiction there. Daniel's kick to the head was completely within the rules.
Katerine459 it wasn’t until the 3rd movie that they mentioned face contact was illegal. It would not automatically disqualify him. He would be given a warning and forfeit a point.
Obi Wan saw Jango Fett's Mandalorian armor and recognized it as being the same as the assassin, while questioning him on Kamino. This is what prompts Fett's actions.
Just found your channel, I love it, keep up the good work man
10) Magneto was actually key to the plan. They needed to make sure the Sentinel program never got off the ground, and Magneto did just that by taking control of the Sentinels and turning them against the president, making sure that they would never be put into mass production and thus never get advanced enough for the future. It had nothing to do with making mutants more popular, just stopping Trask's Sentinel Program. Not a plot hole.
8) I missed the part where they said the infected couldn't differentiate between themselves and noninfected. It's pretty clear that part of the infection means not attacking other infected. Not a plot hole.
4) This is a popular myth. There is no face kicking rule in that fight. Not a plot hole.
28 Days Later - Throughout most of the movie the protagonist is a normal guy, more an observer than a doer. But in the last 15 minutes, he changes into a fucking Rambo a kills a whole base of trained soldiers without any weapons or equipment.
well he is the kind of guy that SURVIVED a vary hostel zombie world for a long period while the soldiers had been bunkered down the whole time. he had to be good at geting around without being seen or heard for a while. i would say him finly using those skills would make cents. the soldiers panic made less sense to me.
edward tucker But he doesn't do anything like that in the rest of the movie. He kills like 1-3 zombies in the entire movie and no humans until the ending. He usually runs from danger. It would've made as much sense had the teenage girl done it instead.
Max Payne he didn't really hesitate to kill those zombies. and he usally had a legit motive to not fight or there was not point to fighting. it wasent till the soldiers went nuts and he had to fight. for many reason the girl and a great safe hold. he was alway calm headed while the soldiers were falling apart made cents for the most part that he won
edward tucker Stop saying cents, its sense you stupid fucker.
Holbrook Stiehl its more amusing to say it that way.did you have a point to make other than being dum? the point still stands that i think the man fighting and killing the soldier is still legit
I hate the prequels but what you said about Attack of the Clones is a little wrong.
Windu and Yoda tell Obi-Wan to arrest Jango and to bring him to Coruscant for questioning, so Obi-Wan wasn't just strolling to the Slave I just to go say goodbye to him. Also, while they were "verbally sparing" Obi-Wan noticed Jango's jetpack and armour which was the same that he saw in Coruscant after Zam Wesell was assassinated, Jango noticed this. So I think Fett knew that Obi-Wan was coming to arrest him and decided to eliminate him there and now.
Also, even though maybe he should have checked to see Obi-Wan was killed, in the space battle his instruments showed that Obi-Wan was destroyed. In a galaxy with incredibly advanced technology, I think that Fett trusting in his ship's instruments was a fair call. I think he just underestimated the Jedi, something that proved fatal (trying to fight Windu one on one)
There's another plothole in Batman begins. The machine to vaporize the water makes no sense, because we have water in out body. So everyone would just be killed.
Top Tenz, there is something you should know about the blockbuster universe. It is ruled by a deity called... Plot Convenience
Is she pretty? Would love to worship her ;)
Blackshadow164 Well, she has a nice plot...
I just realized this, but at 6:00 when you look at the shadow it looks like Darth Vader :O
In Sherlock Holmes: Game Of Shadows The bomb blast was revealed to be a device to cover up the sniping of the victim. # 5 of the list does not appear to fit. My evidence is below:
(On roof-top balcony/sniper position, overlooking hotel)
Watson: *Jude Law* "What better way to conceal a killing, no one looks for a bullet-hole in a bomb-blast."
(Later at the outdoor cafe'. - V.O.during flashback scenes)
Holmes: *R.D.J.* "Last nights' bombing was clearly meant to look like Germany's retaliation for Strasbourg. However, the bomb was also meant to conceal the murder of just one man. The man killed by the gunshot, was none other than Alfred Meinhardt."
I loved the movie, and have watched it many times. Well, there's that. Otherwise, I love these vids. Thanks, and keep 'em coming.
In reference to #5:
The reason Moriarty had his target shot was because he needed to make sure he was dead. Even if he was in the bomb's blast radius, that doesn't guarantee death, such as the Valkyrie plot with Hitler. Had his target survived, any thereafter assassination attempt would have been highly suspicious, and would possibly lead to Moriarty, so he had to make sure the target died at that time. It was just unfortunate Sherlock Holmes was able to figure out his plan.
eh...sorry, but number 1 plothole in x-men is clearly the apperance of prof. x. He was turned into dust by phoenix as i can remember.
In X3 he talked about transferring his mind to other people.
Minecraftrandomvids
Yeah...ehm...ok...so he what? Found a long lost twinbrother who is also sitting in a wheelchair?! :D
Vincent Vega Yes he did please do some simple google research
Chocolates
If i have to google to explain a pretty important part of a movie, i would say its a bad movie or lazy storywriting, or both.
Vincent Vega That happened in X-men last stand and no one cares about that movie anyway lol
I don't know if you ever even need to say that a zombie movie has a plot hole. How about the idea that files are attracted to dead tissue--they'd be surrounded in a cloud of flies. The corpses would be rotting so there's a time limit to the length of time they have to live. In the wild a deer can be stripped down to the bone by maggots and beetles in 2 weeks. And some of the connective tissue would rot away so the zombies would fall apart. Zombie movies have nothing but holes. It's just too damn fun when you suspend your belief and go to this very scary place only to survive. I love zombie movies. They're stupid, but they scare me too.
28 days isn't about the dead walking, it's about the living losing cognitive thought beyond always being super angry and hungry. Since they still have working biological systems, eating fuels the bodies natural defenses and regenerative properties and doe not decompose or attract carrion eaters such as the normal depiction of an undead zombie.
Hence your comment is not a plothole for this particular zombie movie.
Ok. I feel stupid. This is fiction right? It almost feels like were arguing Romulans vs Cardassians at some Star Trek party. In this case of things that don't actually exist: you say potato i say potahto.
Debatable.
Fiction to the extent that 28 days / weeks later embellishes it, but not so much fiction that it isn't implausible, considering there are already a number of infections that alter behaviors in the infected analogously enough.
Various Cordyceps fungus in insects, Toxoplasma Gondii in rodents, and Syphilis & Rabies in all mammals, for the most popular examples in the last decade.
There are also various drugs that can produce similar effects in all animals, though those effects tend to be much more short-term.
Samael 11 No pain, have unlimited stamina, Teamwork ripping limbs apart eww
Samael 11 Still a plothole. How do these "infected" stay alive for more than a week? They seemingly don't attack one another, don't instinctively seek out shelter and they expend a whole lot of energy chasing their prey (as opposed to actually effective hunters in the wild who wait for the most opportune time before attacking and chasing down prey) so it seems plausible that all humanity has to do to survive is wait them out for a week or two.
A good example of this is that parasite that you mentioned yourself. The rats that get Toxoplasma Gondii usually die from exposure, starvation, encephalitis (which usually leads to severe headaches, seizures etc.) Is it plausible for something like 28 days later to happen in real life? Sure. But I really don't think it's possible. And if it did happen, I'd try to patiently wait it out in my 10th floor apt with my door firmly shut.
He's a bounty hunter on Kamino. The dart that killed Zam Wessel was Kaminan and shot by a bounty hunter wearing mandalorian armor. If that wasn't enough to convict Fett, his battle armor would have been found in the ensuing investigation. It is true that he would be on Geonosis by the time anyone figured anthing out, but if Kenobi was dead, that would take longer, and a key republic figure would be out of the picture. You say he should have checked to make sure Obi-wan was really dead. How? Was he going to search the entire asteroid field? Even assuming that was possible, his employers probably kept him on a tight schedule and a short leash. Attack of the clones doesn't exactly have a great plot, but it's light-years away from deserving the number one spot on your list.
Enjoyed this video. Thinking and talking about major plot holes is what bookclub's did in times past.
8. No, no, no. They aren't driven to eat. In fact, by the end of the movie, many starve. They just want to kill people. The biting is just another way to attack. I'll grant you that they should be attacking each other...in fact, they should be attacking anything that even remotely could be confused as a living creature. Toys, drawings, statues...
TheBlues32
Yeah I have a very big plot hole in a movie. In Captain America The First Avenger, the ending shows that they find the tesseract from the deep ocean, while they cant find Captain himself lying on a "ISLAND"!!!! Sure they tracked the tesseract's energy but the plane had some sort of radio signal,why they couldn't follow that at all?
Second MARVEL plothole, In Ironman 3 we see that all of the new suits Tony designed are prototypes (The reason why they break more than a lego) But why make that many and save them? If they are easy breakable? Why not just make a one solid (Mark 7) Suit that helps you to do all the shit all your other suit does? Thats bullcrap
1 plot hole: Chances are they were so focused on finding the Tesseract that they werent looking for anything else(cap was thought to be surely dead) And I dont understan how the radio signal would help in finding cap? And cap was frozen in an iceberg, not on an island
2 plot hole: He saved the suits to make them better later. He had already the old suits for battle but they didnt have the option to call the to him. He probbably got cocky and thought that the newest suit would be enough and wanted to test it(kinda dumb)
That are my explanations, sorry if Im wrong.
Sorry if my english isnt good, Im from Croatia
luka simundza thank you
Concerning plot hole 2, Iron Man created several suits to do SEVERAL things. I don't think that it is likely for Tony to invent a suit that is practically invincible and can detach into smaller, flying parts.
Airman14741 but it's tony stark he can do anything.
9. (I've never seen it so correct me if I am wrong) but wouldn't a weapon that vaporises water not just instantly kill everyone? We are made mostly of water?
Plot convenience.
Great video thx.
I've seen everything on this list that I care about. That being said, I know the very title of this video suggests spoilers, but you should probably put a warning anyway.
***** nickels.
***** You mean "viewer' beware, right? Cause I didn't buy anything.
All zombie movies, by existing, having plot holes. Nothing in them make any sense. I don't see the appeal.
nunya biznez Look up the drugs Bath Salts and Crocodil. All someone needs to do is combine the two and you have in some form Zombies. :o
AdamZ Gluchowski Zombies do not exist. I concede that many people act like the cliche movie zombie but what you see in movies is make believe.
nunya biznez and they make zombies having super strength and shit. we get it they are undead but that doesn't make them 500% faster and stronger to reap through human body like a pice of paper
How about the enormous plothole that, for some reason, never gets questioned: In any movie that has a character who can become invisible (Hollowman, Fantastic 4), how is the character able to see anything?
By becoming invisible, light travels through everything in their body. But to see anything, light has to strike the cells in the eyes! So any invisible character would actually be completely blind...
*****
I know it's science fiction and super natural, but if they are gonna use invisibility, why not do it in a way that is at least plausible? In Hollow Man, he just goes invisible, no explanation of how it works. In Mass Effect 2 and 3, the Infiltrator class can also become invisible, but they give the explanation that it's optical camouflage. And that's what i need from most media; Just a few simple lines clarifying how it works in their universe
Nice, have to say i chuckled my way through that video
.....danger dolan?
haha whatre you doing with a second account sir?
***** hahaha is this really danger dolan? love that channel, well then, .... subscribing :D
Michael Job Dolan is Australian, pretty sure this guy is from the UK.
Also in Dark Knight Rises, there's a prison that's essentially a hole in the ground where no one stays in their cells, everyone has TVs, can recuperate from back injuries and leave if they climb out because there are no guards.
You don't know what a plothole is if you listed those things about Days of Future Past.
They properly explained why Magneto was also needed to convince Mystique of what would happen if she killed Trask and he did serve that purpose even if he didn't do it at the time that Charles and Logan had planned it.
Yes, a powerful mutant threatened to kill the president, but another mutant saved them from him which obviously showed him that not all mutants could be deemed dangerous and lethal to humans. As for the Sentinels, well, they proved to be a major fuck-up, didn't they? Here you have one of the worlds top engineers staking his entire reputation on these prototypes that he ensures will do their job and protect humans from any and all mutants, but is hijacked with ease by just one mutant. Which proves that they are definately not what they were made out to be and they're fucking expensive to make.
Add to that the fact that Trask was trying to sell this technology to enemies of the USA mere hours before which is high treason and then of course the plans for the Sentinels would be scrapped both out of legal reasons and to not draw mud onto the presidents carpet, figuratively speaking.
A plothole is when something goes against the established rules of a movies universe and logical or when a character does something that goes completely against their nature for illogical reasons. Days of Future Past does not fit that bill, does it?
The plot hole I had with Phantom Menace is during that scene you mention, that Qui-Gon and Darth Maul are able to go from one end of the that hallway with force fields to the other, practically walking, and Obi-Wan can cover the same distance running. Both groups missed getting into the final chamber at the last second. The only way this can be explained is that the force fields are on a random timer, yet with no information what that chamber is for, it seems to be a plot convenience for it to happen, and all 3 should have been fighting at the very end, especially considering the force speed you mentioned.
Er… these aren't plot holes.
Gábor Koszper ceci n'est pas une pipe
***** if you say that you're wrong that means that you have false facts in a video, which is kind of shitty of you, as a person that wishes to convey facts ;S
Gábor Koszper why not?
silentlamb21 Plot holes are something the writers didn't think about. These are things the characters didn't think about. Characters have the right to be silly and make silly decisions. For example the US president can decide for or against the giant mutantkilling robots however he wants to. It's not a plot hole that his decision isn't following the convenience that most time travelers are basing their decisions on.
Gábor Koszper If a character doesn't thinkg of something so obvious then clearly writers didn't think about it either.
When you mentioned The Dark Knight Rises I thought you would point out that after Bruce climbs out of that whole he somehow gets back to Gotham on the other side of the world with no pass port or money
The entire plot of Attack of the Clones was orchestrated by Palpatine. Obi Wan was meant to be led there and captured and the Jedi were meant to arrive as well as the clones. All this was very calculated by Palpatine so the clone wars would begin.
that is to conversant a thought i doubt it was planed out that way or if it was he left to much to chance. or he would have clued in count docu. he was right plan went to shit becuse of jango fett. order 66 was more of a fail safe than anything else.
Actually in 'Attack of the Clones' Obi Wan sees Jango fleeing after shooting the shape shifter, just after she's revealed she was hired by a bounty hunter. Obi Wan then takes the poisoned dart to a friend who identifies it as Kaminoan. Upon arriving on Kamino Obi Wan is told there is only one bounty hunter on the planet. Jango reveals he was hired by Tyranus which leads Obi Wan onto the next step in the search for whoever put the price of Amidalias head. The Jedi council however want to question Jango which is why Obi Wan tries to arrest him, but finds Jango in the middle fleeing which is why they fight. Jango does not initiate a fight because he knows he would loose.
One of my favourite "plot holes" is from Star Trek Generations - Kirk is left in the Nexus for YEARS before Picard joins him - if two legendary captains couldn't come up with a better plan than "both of us beat up the bad guy" then they're worse than idiots ... a simpler solution: as they can leave the Nexus and return to ANY TIME, Kirk goes back to a few months before the Enterprise B is launched and tells them to get the tractor beams and medical bays fully fitted before launch, he has enough pull to be able to change things, this means that Soran's wife is never killed & he never knows about the Nexus... Picard goes back to a few weeks before the fire and tells his brother to not be near the vineyard at the time of the fire, or to be extra vigilant about what started the fire... this means that he's not bummed out, his family are still alive, and since Soran isn't blowing up stars to move the Nexus as he's still happy with his wife...
there, 2 minutes of thinking saves lives, makes people happier, and completely voids the whole point of the film, making any fighting redundant - in fact, Picard could go back to the beginning of his captaincy of the Enterprise, save Tasha Yar, know all of the solutions to any problems they encountered, stopping the Borg before they cause problems, and much more...
how is THAT for a plot hole :-P
10 is not a plot hole. Xavier's (and Mistique) actions proved to Nixon that not all mutants are evil and you don't need to gather them all up and lock them in death camps. It was also revealed that Trask was willing to sell military secrets which got him arrested and possibly a prison sentence for espionage.
yes but lets be honest. realistically the U.S. would attack and hunt mutants anyways, think of how trigger happy they are.
I can partly explain #10 - Logan didn't know Erik would turn on Charles & co. because it didn't happen in his original timeline. In his original timeline, Erik stays in prison, Charles does nothing to stop Raven from murdering Trask & the sentinels eventually take over. By sending Logan back, they're hoping that stopping Raven will change the timeline - therefore, future Charles & Erik figure it'll take the two of them to help stop Raven. Sadly, 70's era Erik has other plans (plans future Erik can't know since in his reality he stayed in prison) & once is free goes into business for himself. From the moment Logan inhabits his 70's era body, the timeline is changing and there's really no way the X-men in the future can warn him about said changes, even if they could discern them themselves.
It's not so much a plot hole as a complicated mess, but then time travel movies usually are.
magneto tells logan to break him out of jail and tells everyone that they need young him. I think old magneto already know what young magneto would do. He just tells logan to free him because he wants to get out of jail.
In 28 Days Later, the infected can sort their own apart by smell.
In the case of Jango Fett, the Jedi were SUPPOSED to find out about the clones, which would give the Senate the ability to purchase the clone armies to use against the separatists. The Plot hole there is how did the Jedi possibly miss that the clones were going to their intended end customer from the get go?
Another 28 days later plot hole: ok the main character was in a coma when everything went to hell. He wakes up in a hospital that is abandoned. He wakes up 28 days after everything. Probably the hospital got abandoned maybe a week or two afterwards. Leaving him alone for 2 weeks. How did he survive? The body needs food and water. The body can last quite a while without food but water is a different story. The body can survive that long without water. Unless the doctors and nurses gave him weeks worth of IV that would rotate when its out...he wouldve been dead.
Also are they saying not one rage zombie found him in his hotel room and killed him. Also why was he alone? Yeah doctors and nurses have more things to worry about but what about other coma patients? These plot holes can also apply for rick in the walking dead
Some stars wars books explain that Force users are able to negate force use of opponents near them. It is far fetched but if you keep that in mind while watching the movies it kinda fills up loopholes. Without the ability to negate force there would be no need for lightsabers. There are still moments when both parties are able to use the force while in combat, but you can think of it as one of them sensing that the others force negation had failed due too distraction or stress. whether the that is star wars canon or not, it helps me not have headaches over those parts of the films.
4. Punches are not allowed to the face but kicks are, like in Tae Kwon Do or any full contact karate tournaments
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An excellent list however I can explain the #1 in Cline wars. Fett is a Mandalorian, they have a long standing hatred of the Jedi. In many stories, games etc they attack Jedi for no reason.
How about in GOLDFINGER when Odd Job killed the girl, covering her head to toe in Gold Paint but merely knocked James Bond unconcious? Then when the villain decides to kill Bond he merely ties him to some slow moving death trap and leaves him alone thus allowing Bond to pull out some hidden device that he can use to escape (which happens in practically every Bond film). ♣
lmao yeah dude you nailed it !
A much larger plot hole in Man of Steel was Zod's plan to turn Earth into a Krypton that would have reverted him and his minions into ordinary people again. Zod doesnt strike me as the kind of guy that gives up ultimate power for altruistic reasons.
#6 is a category of it's own. People suddenly "forgetting" about either their powers or a specific weapon, because it's convenient to the plot. I don't think there's even a countable number of the amount of films where that has happened
Interesting video but I don't think you needed to include the Star Wars prequels as Red Letter Media's Mr. Plinkett review series has more than covered those films! ;)
X-Men: it doesnt matter how the president feels, they needed the DNA of mystique thats what the sentinels revolved around in the movie. the real plot hole in x-men days of future past is that Mystiques power only allows her too look like other mutants, the DNA they needed was Rogue's, rogue who has the ability to steal powers by touch.they needed magneto because proferssor Xavier and mystique were on the outs but her and magneto were not.
Batman begins: a hot shower doesnt produce enough vapor to have an effect.
28 days later: i have no answer
twilight: well twilight sucks
phantom menace: never saw it
a game of shadows: moriarty wanted to make sure he died, explosions dont always do their job
karate kid: i dont know
dark knight rises: i dont know
man of steel: the capsules could be opened with a timer.not every last detail needs to be revealed.
attack of clones: i dont know
As for X-Men remember they were in a desperate situation. The enemy of my enemy is my friend and all.
I'm very surprised that you didn't point out the giant plot hole in Citizen Kane. If you remember, no one was in the room to hear Kane say 'Rosebud' which is pretty much the plot point that the entire movie hinges on and it still turns out to be a giant wild goose chase.
Moriarty had the guy shoot the businessman in order to make sure that he died. This is not a plot hole
-- it's an example of a human character making an error, which is perfectly believable.
Was I the only one who saw the title of the video and thought emediately that Citicen Cane would be on the list with the famous "rosebud" that no one should have heard but is the premis for the entire movie?
Following your logic, here's another plot hole that I can't believe wasn't mentioned:
In Superman (1978), Christopher Reeve portrays a man who has the power of flight - this makes absolutely no sense, since men can't fly...
I know you're being sarcastic, but he's an alien, not a human. Aliens could have the power of flight; you can't judge them solely by what humans can do.
TDKR: Even if Batman was able to eject from THE BAT there's no way in hell he would of been able to escape the nuclear fall out from a nuclear bomb simply by landing in water and potentially swimming to shore.
Also the part about how Lucius made a point of saying he's kept the stash of super weapons "off the books", and yet some random terrorist who more or less just moseyed into Gotham a few weeks prior, magically divines the exact spot to blast open for the dramatic reveal of the Tumbler.
Regarding number 5, remember fisher-man and the trout? Moriarty left clues on purpose, he said he would in the beginning of the movie, and repeated it near the end. Moriarty wanted Holmes to find him.
Glad you included Twilight, you could've done a top based only on that saga
The other big problem with Batman Begins is that the microwave emitter is apparently selective about what water gets vaporized, as the residents of Gotham should have basically been vaporized themselves since our bodies are mostly water. They should have all boiled alive.
Number 8 highlights what is probably the number one sticking point in ANY zombie movie, and has only really been highlighted once. They dealt with it in The Walking Dead comic, and explained that (somehow) the zombies could still smell, and they told each other apart by scent. While this seemed like a good fix at the time, a little thought pretty much ruins this, as at some point, the humans would be indistinguishable from the zombies scent-wise, as hot showers would be increasingly difficult. However, that doesn't explain why the dead don't eat the corpses of those who didn't reanimate...
The only real view we have of zombies eating each other is in the original Resident Evil. There is one point in the game, where you come upon a hallway with two zeds happily munching on what appears to be a simple corpse (zombies SHOULD eat the dead, they wouldn't care about rot), but after you dispatch the two chewers, the one they were chomping down on tries to pull itself towards you for an attack, despite the fact that it is half-eaten.
Now that I think about it, that particular scene showcases two things wrong with most zombie movies:
A: zombies should eat each other, at least when nothing else is around.
B: zombies don't feel pain, and despite being munched on by other zombies, show no real sense of self-preservation (as it should be). That means that most zombies wouldn't even react to being attacked, they just react to food.
It's about time someone else questioned why Daniel-san was allowed to win that karate match using an illegal move!
The worst plothole in Man of Steel is the fact that to punish Zod they send him off the planet that's going to blow up. They essentially ensure the fact that he'll be one of the last surviving Kryptonians. Great punishment.
The "Attack of the Clones" plothole involving Jango Fett was actually a pre-meditated event engineered by the Sith who ordered Fett to do what he did to trigger the Clone Wars in such a way that would lead to it being dragged on for 3 years, destroy the Jedi and turn the Republic into the Empire.
Three big plot holes from Star Trek II: Wrath of Khan I've got a beef with are as follows.....
1. Nobody from the Federation bothered to check up on Khan and his followers to see how they were doing and if they were still there so they wouldn't have to worry that they may have escaped to reek havoc on the galaxy.
2. The Reliant's sensors couldn't pick up that Ceti Alpha VI was missing and mistook Ceti Alpha V for its sister planet.
3. Kirk not raising the shields on the Enterprise when it first encountered the Reliant which hadn't confirmed it was friendly even though Saavik stated that regulations required them to raise shields in that situation. The worst part was that it was never explained WHY Kirk didn't raise the shields.
The one thing wrong that you mentioned about Twilight is that Bella wasn't killed because Alice was able to show she would one day become a vampire and that she hadn't told anyone. My twelve year old self had to point that out. But there is still a lot wrong with the series, like the skin glitter affect that was absent. That one is true.
Fett suspected that Obi-Wan would come after him, so he decided to kill him first -- not a plot hole.
The Twilight Saga is famous in... WHAT UNIVERSE?!?!?!?!
That's the worse thing ever...
For Twilight, this is actually blatantly explained in the books, though maybe not in the movies, it's been a loooong time. Basically, the only reason they are allowed to live is because 1. The bad guys didn't know about them originally, and 2. When they do find out, the Cullens promise that they are planning on turning Bella, but they first want to let her get a bit older because it would be suspicious for a 17 year old high schooler to just disappear. Especially one with a cop for a father. The vampires have rules, but not letting some humans know isn't one of them. The group that reins over them all actually keep many humans that are either permanent food sources, spies that are able to go anywhere at anytime, or will at some point be turned into vampires themselves. The vampires have long trusted humans to perform certain roles and the Cullens telling a single human would not prompt any ire from any other vampires. The only thing that reins hell onto the family is that they are jealous of the vast array of powers that have been amassed in the Cullen family and were looking for any excuse to seize those that they could. I'm not a huge fan, I just figure if you are going to pick a flaw from those movies, of which there are MANY don't pick one that is clearly not a flaw at all, but well thought out for once.
well done. Of course, there are so many other plot holes in these movies, but you covered the major ones, and thats what counts most.
Most of these movies where made in the last 15-20 years, this says a lot about what Hollywood became. They only focus on special and visual effects, plot became a byproduct, that mainly has the purpose to extend the movie to 90 or 120 minutes...
The Simpsons Movie? A big plot hole is that they could of just dug a hole to get out of their glass prison.
Attack of the clones? Nobody bothered who authorised, paid or ordered the clones. They just accepted the fact that they come in handy.
There is another major problem with that water-vaporizing device from Batman Begins. Remember that little fact that people are 80% water (60 to 80, according to different sources)? Everyone near that device would explode violently the moment it was turned on. Seriously, they should've come up with something less ridiculous.
Bigger loop hole for x-men. If the sentinel program was running in the original timeline of the first 3 x-men movies, then why don't we see anything on them until the post apocalyptic beginning of days of future past. You would think that in the first three movies they would have been fighting older prototypes of sentinels...
Yes because being frozen is soooo much worse than death. Its more like a coma than actually leaving them self aware. Wow, that was a sad excuse for a plot hole.
The last point, about Jango Fett, ignores the fact that Obi-wan _did_ have reason to suspect Jango, and Jango knew that. Obi-wan spotted Jango's armour in the closet, thus associating Jango with the assassin from earlier.
#10 - The thing about changing the past is that you can predict how you might react but you can never know for sure. Even Magneto may have not known how his younger self would have behaved. As for Mystique stopping Magneto after his huge display of power, it showed that mutants were just as split as non-mutants. Some fight against non-mutants just as others will fight to protect non-mutants. It also made it clear that Mystique only sought retribution for the death of her friends who died at the hands of that heartless jerk who made the sentinels, like any non-mutant would in her position. In the previous movies, mutants were portrayed as monster who would hurt others because they could. Mystique stopping Magneto humanized mutants before the whole world.
As someone that is hard of hearing, i appreciate so much that this video has captions
As someone that accidentally ended up on this lame video, I'm glad my browser has a back button.
+LB B congrats Holmes but nobody cares if you don't like the vid.
+Starr Portman I have as much right to comment on this shallow thought-out video as you do. How's that for a caption? Now here's a sign: back of closed hand toward you with extended middle finger
Oops, that wasn't a plot-hole in Twilight. As ridiculous as I feel correcting this, they don't sparkle in daylight, only in *direct* sunlight, which is why they live in such a cloudy town. And the reason they weren't killed for knowing about vampires was covered in the second movie. The biggest plot-hole was that one of the group had the power of futuristic visions that would uncharacteristically not show her the biggest upcoming conflict/s.
You make a good point about the X-men. My friend had the same problem about busting Magneto out. He said that in the future they knew that Magneto would screw everything up and should have warned Wolverine. I say that as soon as Wolverine went back in time he created a brand new timeline. From that point on everything would be different. (much like JJ's Star Trek ) Therefore the future X-men had no idea what would happen. Granted, they knew what type of person Magneto was and they were taking a huge gamble. However, they thought they needed Magneto since they didn't think Prof. X could persuade Mystique alone since he was depressed at the time and wasn't using his powers and they thought Mystique would trust Magneto more than the professor.
toekneebeeears X-Men was a tiny plot hole. First off Magneto didn't start working against Prof and Wolverine the second he broke out. He worked with them to find Mystique in Paris and try to stop her. Prof and Wolverine not letting Magneto kill Mystique and his taking of the Sentinel plans is what sent him down a different road than Mystique. Its also very likely Nixon would have canceled the program even after Magneto showed his full power because 1. Magneto showed that the sentinels could easily be taken over and controlled by a mutant. and 2. Because Mystique saved him Charles would have pointed out to the president that the only defense against evil mutants was the US working with good mutants. And actually because of #1 Nixon would have really had no choice. As far as Prof X being in the future after X3 there are countless comic book techniques that could allow that. Whats nice is that Bryan Singer tried to clean up the shit storm X-Men had become after X2 and in invalidating the events of X2 he was willing to wipe out his own work. The dudes a freak but I give him props for that.
In the Sherlock Holmes thing, I'm like 99% sure it was explained that the shooter guy was to make sure that the businessman died and didn't survive the explosion.
Number 1 was very weak. Isn't it the case that Kenobi continues to be suspicious regardless of the apparent innocence of Fett. I don't think it's the case that he thinks "ah well, nothing to see here." he knows there's a clone army the order of which was placed by a dead jedi, that no one else knew anything about, he knows someone removed the record of the planet (and that it was a jedi), he already suspects it was fett who was on coruscant and who shot the dart. he doesn't just assume fett is innocent and leave him be. That's a very very strange way of looking at that scene. Fett doesn't try to outright murder Kenobi, he shoots at him as he's attempting to flee the planet. Kenobi comes looking for HIM, and Fett defends himself. Kenobi is on his way to ARREST Fett.
The shot to kill the gun shot that killed the business man in SH:A Game of Shadows was to ensure that the business man would be killed.
Actually, my impression in Star Wars Ep 2 is that Obi Wan did suspect Jango Fett of being/hiring the assassin of the senator. The real problem is that when speaking to the Jedi Council, Obi Wan says he did not suspect the aliens creating the clone army of being involved in the assassination attempt because "there seems to be no motive." WHAT!? The senator is trying to defeat a bill that would make a Republic Army legal, so the aliens making said army would have PLENTY of motive for wanting to see her dead! It's unbelievable that this plot hole would be overlooked, but then that's Star Wars for you!
In Game of Shadows, the explosion was said in the film not to be strong enough to kill everyone in the room absolutely, and since it was the late 1800s, they couldn't use anything more power full because it would've been to big to hide in the room. The explosion was used to cover up the assassination by making it look like an attack on a group of people rather than just 1. They do something similar in Jack Reacher.
But, apart from that, great list. I'm subscribing.
"The only time a real vampire sparkles in the sun is in that split second before they burst into flames." Buffy Summers
#5 The Volturi didn't know that Bella knew and when they did find out they planned to kill her until Alice showed them Bella's future. The vampires only sparkle in direct or very bright sunlight, Forks being under an almost constant cloud cover prevents the sparkle (weak, I know, but that's the movies/author's explanation).
28 Days later did have infected attacking animals. The rats in the underground tunnel scene are said to be running "From them" Which lead me to believe that in desperate times, the infected would attack rats. There is also the horse dream, but I digress. (Still, awesome video.)
They actually said that Mystique was the one who fecked up everything and they wanted to stop her. They believed Magneto was the only one who could find and stop her, which is why they broke him out in the first place. So, y'all are kinda lame for not getting that one.
the star trek movie. There is no way in hell the federation would ever give command of their flagship to a dropout of the academy no matter how good the kid is they would have still told him that he has to work up through the ranks like everyone else.
Twilight: in the film Edward said that they lived in Forks because due to the climate, even when the sun is out the clouds are always glooming over the town making it look as if the sun is barely visible.