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Btw most of those ships are for 1940 to like 1960 maybe a little later but today battleships are considered obsolete and aren't used most today are museums or scrap, they were assassinated by aircraft carriers 😆
@@sniper_ninja1324 the Iowas were in service in the 1990s, upgraded of course to carry Tomahawks and CIWS but they still retained their main caliber guns and some of their original dual purpose 127 mm guns.
The Iowa class 16 inch turrets are three-gun turrets, not triple. A triple turret raises and lowers all three guns at the same time. A three-gun turret can raise and lower each of the guns separately.
According to an old 16" gun training video, those guns were a "Three gun turret" not a "Triple gun turret" A "Three gun turret" means that each gun can be adjusted for elevation independently of the other two guns. A "Triple gun turret" means that the guns are fixed together.
For anyone wondering: MONTANA The five Montana-class ships (later three) were supposed to also carry the THREE-GUN 16"/50 Mk7 turret that the Iowas carried. None of the Montana-class were launched or even built for that matter. VERMONT The United States knew that it would be a matter of time before their weapons would be outclassed by something more modern during the first dreadnought era. In the 1920s, one extremely triggered-all-the-time Jacob Tillman created proposals for battleships that could beat out much everything that anyone else had to offer in return. One of these was Vermont, who was supposed to have FIVE 18"/48cal triple turret guns. Congress disposed of these plans, probably because the Panama Canal was gonna break open if one of these ships tried to pass through it. GEORGIA and OHIO These two were to also get the 18"/48cal guns, but in two-gun turrets instead. Neither of them were built. Georgia was an Iowa-class proposal that was rejected in favor of using the 16"/50cals instead. Ohio was to be a proposal for "after the Montana". Of course, Montana was never built, so naturally no plans for the Ohio were ever made.
Great video, love the sailor for size comparison. Only thing I would like to see above that is adding more of the sailors to get a better idea of how many it took to man and operate the turret
How about an episode on IJN main battery guns? That would include the famous 460mm, and IJN destroyers have many models of 127mm and the dual purpose 100mm. That would also be very impressive to watch. It would also be interesting to list out AA weaponry in WWII. They also fought and saw many actions in WWII.
I really like the idea of a ship that is simultaneously huge and small, is both the fastest and slowest ship of its faction, and that uses both pitifully small and comically large guns in the same gun mounts.
@@wheels-n-tires1846 best you can get is in the mod station, and it will change all gun calibers, even the ones that are read in mm, like the 40mm Bofers
Helps you appreciate the scale of these guns as it shows a sailor for comparison. The choice of music adds to the majesty. Just that certain something of the old style gunships that modern vessels lack. What music anyway?
having been on the USS BB63 Missouri myself the little sailor next to the guns is no real comparison. standing in front of one of the 16 inch turrets yourself is almost frightening
This is simply fantastic World of Warships team! This puts things into perspective and per portion relative to the shear magnitude of these gigantic ships designed for one purpose………. War. Although terrible it’s amazing at the same time! Well done and thank you!
"Triple gun" most US battleships were able to raise their guns individually, making them 3 gun instead of "triple" or "twin/double," as the guns are acting individually and not as one. I don't know about cruisers and DDs, but I can say that about the battleship main battery. A good example of this: take an Iowa Class Battleship, their main battery has 3 gun turrets because the guns can go up and down independently, meanwhile the secondary/multipurpose 5" battery are double/twin mounts because when you elevate one gun, the other goes too.
I think the term "triple gun" is being used to convey the fact that the turret has three guns rather than how it works. And its shorter than saying "three gun turret". Same with "twin turret".
Three of Arizona's four 14' guns along with two of the turret housings were removed from the wreck during salvage operations in 1942. The housing and guns for Turret 1 remain on the wreck, while just the housing unit for Turret 2 remains on the barbette. Some of her 14' guns were incorporated into two island defenses on Oahu, in case of a possible Japanese invasion. Some of Arizona's barrels were later removed from the island defenses and installed on the USS Nevada and were used to fire on the Japanese in 1945. One of her barrels is now in Phoenix, AZ.
Twin mounts could not separate elevations. They were locked together. Dual mounts could be elevated independently. Twin and dual are two different sorts of mount and triple and 3-gun are the same.
Great video, i love everything about it, though at the end, i half thought all the gun would raise their barrels and fire either all at once or go in order
True to the extend, and as a big fan of Yamato, I agree likewise. Perhaps we'll have another video on battleship's main guns from all factions someday, but lest we forget, this video is about the Americans.
I’ve been on the U.S. Kidd before when I was stationed in baton rouge Louisiana. THAT had huge cannons. I’m in Hawaii now and I can’t even imagine the size of the Missouri with it being an Iowa class 😳
Cool. Except some of the "twin" and "triple" turrets are actually "two-gun" and "three-gun" turrets. Meaning the rifles aren't linked in elevation, the tubes can be raised or lowered independently of each other. E.g. for sequential fire.
I think the term "triple gun" is being used to convey the fact that the turret has three guns rather than how it works. And its shorter than saying "three gun turret". Same with "twin turret".
@@edgardox.feliciano3127 Like to copy/paste useless responses, do ya? The OP is right. The creator is mistaken, regardless that we know what they mean.
The person standing next to the gun could be changed to indicate how many men it takes to man each gun/turret next to the gun itself, more useful than just 1 person next to each gun…
People that watch these videos need to understand that the makers are only including real ships. You won’t see your favorite paper ships in these videos.
The funniest content from the most serious profiles. Like here. Accurate representations of battles and exact replicas of ships. Hilarious. A little further on game, you will find Godzilla and Kink Kong fighting aliens and a company of people sleeping and waking up looking for ways to get from you euro. Reliability Zero.
Multiple mistakes made in this video. 1) there is a difference between a mount and a turret. A mount is bolted to the deck while a turret is held in place via gravity. 2) there is a difference between triple and three gun. Twin, triple, quad, etc. means that if u move one gun, the others move alongside with it. Whereas 2, 3, 4, etc. gun turret/mount means each INDIVIDUAL gun can be raised, lowered, and fired individually, all together, or in any combination of the total
This post shows several misconceptions, albeit commonly-held ones. First, turrets need not be held in place only by gravity - most later "turrets" were, but if you want to get hyper-technical, they are gun houses, not "turrets", mounted on barbettes. If you look at the original naval turret, on USS Monitor, it had a central spindle, which was a definite weak point. Second, mounts are not always bolted on to decks. Turrets have mountings too, and even by your definition, they clearly can't be bolted to a (not "the") deck. (What of mounts ON turrets?!) Thirdly, the distinction you draw between a triple and a three-gun turret is a distinction only drawn by certain American authors, and is used nowhere else; where turrets are classified as having individually sleeved mountings or not.
IIRC the Pensacola & Portland class 203mm guns are "triple turrets" and were not individually sleeved - they had to be elevated at the same time. It wasn't until the New Orleans class that the 203mm became "3 gun turrets" which can elevate independently.
Well as most of the Russian ships in the game we're never built, I imagine they'd have a hard time with that. IJN, RN, KM etc would be good to see though!
@@xtod9892 They did build the guns tho. Maybe instead of turret they could do gun comparision instead. Or well they could stick with cruisers and destroyer turrets at worst
Yeah, I wonder what is the reason of why did some European navies (i.e German, Italian, French, rarely UK) choose 15 inch over 16 inch, with higher caliber guns you got higher penetration and range right? (generally). I only see odd number calibers (i.e 11, 13 and 15 inchers) on EU ships.
I would not call most of them twins or triplets. Twin and triplet mean that all barrels are connected to each other and elevate at the same time. If barrels can elevate in a single mode, those turrets called two gun turrets or three gun turrets.
I don't know how many, but quite a few of them did have all the barrels connected like that. It was a feature they used to keep the turrets narrow enough to fit on the older hulls.
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Yes yes yes, more of these videos please.
do the same thing but with Germanic ships
Yes
Brilliant!
Great video! super cool really like it!
The Turrets of the Modern Cruisers and Alaska And the Modern Battleships really catches the EYE
I like Worcesters the most
Υou mean the AYE!
Btw most of those ships are for 1940 to like 1960 maybe a little later but today battleships are considered obsolete and aren't used most today are museums or scrap, they were assassinated by aircraft carriers 😆
@@sniper_ninja1324 the Iowas were in service in the 1990s, upgraded of course to carry Tomahawks and CIWS but they still retained their main caliber guns and some of their original dual purpose 127 mm guns.
@@Mrskydoesminecraft1 i know thats why i said and a little later and not many other types remained in service
The Iowa class 16 inch turrets are three-gun turrets, not triple. A triple turret raises and lowers all three guns at the same time. A three-gun turret can raise and lower each of the guns separately.
TY, I did not know that!
I believe that the same was true for the North Carolinas, South Dakotas, and Yamatos
when ammo is out, you can shoot crew on those Iowa turrets
Now that's a very good decision..
Looks like you could almost shoot the 4-inch guns out of the 16-inch.
If you have Helsey, you can skip this step.
Shootin "Seamen" kappa.
According to an old 16" gun training video, those guns were a "Three gun turret" not a "Triple gun turret"
A "Three gun turret" means that each gun can be adjusted for elevation independently of the other two guns.
A "Triple gun turret" means that the guns are fixed together.
For anyone wondering:
MONTANA
The five Montana-class ships (later three) were supposed to also carry the THREE-GUN 16"/50 Mk7 turret that the Iowas carried. None of the Montana-class were launched or even built for that matter.
VERMONT
The United States knew that it would be a matter of time before their weapons would be outclassed by something more modern during the first dreadnought era. In the 1920s, one extremely triggered-all-the-time Jacob Tillman created proposals for battleships that could beat out much everything that anyone else had to offer in return. One of these was Vermont, who was supposed to have FIVE 18"/48cal triple turret guns. Congress disposed of these plans, probably because the Panama Canal was gonna break open if one of these ships tried to pass through it.
GEORGIA and OHIO
These two were to also get the 18"/48cal guns, but in two-gun turrets instead. Neither of them were built. Georgia was an Iowa-class proposal that was rejected in favor of using the 16"/50cals instead. Ohio was to be a proposal for "after the Montana". Of course, Montana was never built, so naturally no plans for the Ohio were ever made.
it 18"48cal not 50cal
@@hatosan5565 for the Kansas and Minnesota. I believe the Vermont was supposed to get 50cal. Also the same for Ohio and Georgia.
@@hatosan5565 Noted.
@@knightworld3019 Noted as well.
I have to say, I love these comparison videos
Can't wait for the Imperial Japanese Weighing up Weaponry
Omg same
To small cannon to destroyer sized turret
Everyone wait Yamato big turret lol
But stalin grad is more powerfull than yamato
Great video, love the sailor for size comparison. Only thing I would like to see above that is adding more of the sailors to get a better idea of how many it took to man and operate the turret
yeah
I feel bad for all the ships that got stripped of their main guns just so WarGaming can put it on their display
Nice one
Fun fact, they are all from my ships :(
Rip
wish i had one 406 mm caliber gun in my house roof
How about an episode on IJN main battery guns? That would include the famous 460mm, and IJN destroyers have many models of 127mm and the dual purpose 100mm. That would also be very impressive to watch.
It would also be interesting to list out AA weaponry in WWII. They also fought and saw many actions in WWII.
These are historically accurate guns for the ships that were completed and left the shipyard. Ships like Vermout and Georgia are just concept ships.
Shoutout to the art department again 👍🏼
The only piece missing that would have been great would be to list the amount of crew required to operate each gun.
I’m an alabamian, and that means I’ve been aboard the USS alabama, and let me tell you, those guns are so much larger up close, they are huge.
Imagine all these guns on one big long Destroyercruiserbattleship. Insane right lol ?
"You see that ship?"
"Yes sir"
"Use it for your squadron's target practice"
I really like the idea of a ship that is simultaneously huge and small, is both the fastest and slowest ship of its faction, and that uses both pitifully small and comically large guns in the same gun mounts.
woohoo!!!! they put inches alongside the millimeters!!! now I can visualize exactly what the barrel diameter looked like
Ive been asking for a settings button to choose between In/Mm for a while... American ships never had "XX mm" guns LOL!!!
@@wheels-n-tires1846 best you can get is in the mod station, and it will change all gun calibers, even the ones that are read in mm, like the 40mm Bofers
Really wished the ending was they all fired and pauses with what the blast leaving the different weapon platforms look like.
It's just a bunch of little dudes laying around clutching their bleeding ears and trying to stand up.
FYI, Gearing's 5"/38 is inverted left and right. Checker's telescope port supposed to be on left side of the turret, together with pointer's.
Impressive and humbling as you see the size compared to those who served the guns.
Helps you appreciate the scale of these guns as it shows a sailor for comparison. The choice of music adds to the majesty. Just that certain something of the old style gunships that modern vessels lack.
What music anyway?
Its nice to see all the models of the Turrets. They are quite detailed.
Would be funny to see the smallest gun next to the biggest one at the end of the video
Video: Pensacola twin barrel turret
Me: Brain, be awed, the art, the models they are just fantastic!
My brain: bReAd lOaf
Lol, now that you've said it, it does kinda look like a bread loaf.
Slava's 16in Guns: Devstrike Venezia
Monty's 16in Guns: 12 ricochets on Venezia
Imagine right before the end, all guns went off!
having been on the USS BB63 Missouri myself the little sailor next to the guns is no real comparison. standing in front of one of the 16 inch turrets yourself is almost frightening
Almost? Who are you, hulk?
Its really refreshing for WoWs to make a comparison video of ships and armaments
Awe inspiring sound track. Excellent video. Thank you!
This is simply fantastic World of Warships team! This puts things into perspective and per portion relative to the shear magnitude of these gigantic ships designed for one purpose………. War. Although terrible it’s amazing at the same time! Well done and thank you!
Something that would have been really cool to see would be to have all the guns fire at the end of the video
"Triple gun" most US battleships were able to raise their guns individually, making them 3 gun instead of "triple" or "twin/double," as the guns are acting individually and not as one.
I don't know about cruisers and DDs, but I can say that about the battleship main battery. A good example of this: take an Iowa Class Battleship, their main battery has 3 gun turrets because the guns can go up and down independently, meanwhile the secondary/multipurpose 5" battery are double/twin mounts because when you elevate one gun, the other goes too.
I think the term "triple gun" is being used to convey the fact that the turret has three guns rather than how it works. And its shorter than saying "three gun turret". Same with "twin turret".
@@edgardox.feliciano3127 Oh my goodness. We know what it "means." The OP is correct, though.
@@edgardox.feliciano3127 Watch some of Battleship New Jersey's videos, they explain a lot. Its purely just them using an incorrect term.
"Oh, so you are fan of army ship?
"Name every battery gun."
Three of Arizona's four 14' guns along with two of the turret housings were removed from the wreck during salvage operations in 1942. The housing and guns for Turret 1 remain on the wreck, while just the housing unit for Turret 2 remains on the barbette. Some of her 14' guns were incorporated into two island defenses on Oahu, in case of a possible Japanese invasion. Some of Arizona's barrels were later removed from the island defenses and installed on the USS Nevada and were used to fire on the Japanese in 1945. One of her barrels is now in Phoenix, AZ.
Love this kind of content.
Nice render by the way. Now we can see how big the guns are.
Das nennt man mal eine anständige Aufstellung von Schiffsartellerie, sehr schön gemacht, Bitte auch von Flotten anderer Nationen zeigen. Danke
The absolute size of the battleships turrets 😳
Twin mounts could not separate elevations. They were locked together.
Dual mounts could be elevated independently.
Twin and dual are two different sorts of mount and triple and 3-gun are the same.
Yup, just wrote that comment below. Whoever is making those videos, makes such silly mistakes..
The pensicola turret by itself looks like a loaf of bread with chopsticks in the front
LoL look at these comments....
"Where is [insert a fantasy ship name]'s gun?"
"[Insert multiple fantasy ship names] guns are missing"
*BRUH*
Nah Vermont exists in blueprints tho, wg just made a fantasy ww2 retro fitted version
You guys remember when stock ships actually looked different from the upgraded ships? Fun times.
think would have been cool to see some of the paper ships to be added too for reference, and a full Salvo in the end but some can dream
Great video, i love everything about it, though at the end, i half thought all the gun would raise their barrels and fire either all at once or go in order
That first 76mm gun in 1980 stilll was in Yougoslav war navy. Great gun,you can hit flee in the eye,as we say.
Me: using this information for war thunder 😎🤙🤙💪
yes
Hope to see British main battery gun soon.
Next ! Japanese Main Battery !!
Main Battery Guns in WW2 are more fearful than Cannons of Modern Warships
modern ships focus more on other types of weapons instead like missiles & bigger guns are now not worth the extra weight
@@1Heptic in my opinion WW2 Warships can win against Modern Warships if a Cannon vs Cannon Battle.
@@1Heptic btw i recommend to Download The Modern Warships game, its a beautiful game try it for yourself :)
@@B2-1988 MW is decent although i really dislike that upgrades have success chance
Even though this is American main guns, any battleship fans will always agree that they're much bigger than any other guns ever built.
Yamato guns were bigger
True to the extend, and as a big fan of Yamato, I agree likewise. Perhaps we'll have another video on battleship's main guns from all factions someday, but lest we forget, this video is about the Americans.
@@GuardianOfTheHeaven you said they were biggest ever build and yamato guns were also once built.
Rate of Fire (ROF) is almost as important as size. Depends on the target.
I’ve been on the U.S. Kidd before when I was stationed in baton rouge Louisiana. THAT had huge cannons. I’m in Hawaii now and I can’t even imagine the size of the Missouri with it being an Iowa class 😳
Damn the music boi
Cool. Except some of the "twin" and "triple" turrets are actually "two-gun" and "three-gun" turrets. Meaning the rifles aren't linked in elevation, the tubes can be raised or lowered independently of each other. E.g. for sequential fire.
I think the term "triple gun" is being used to convey the fact that the turret has three guns rather than how it works. And its shorter than saying "three gun turret". Same with "twin turret".
@@edgardox.feliciano3127 Like to copy/paste useless responses, do ya? The OP is right. The creator is mistaken, regardless that we know what they mean.
@@Keifsanderson but Drachinifel, a youtuber that is big on naval history also refers to them as triple turrets and twin turrets.
Forget Gustav even ratte would be small.
Imagine that the biggest land-based gun is actually the smallest cannon in the Navy...
Those destroyer guns are big
wait till u see that german DD guns are just light crusier guns
@@death_walker21 real life wise not really
Now to write a symphony for the wargaming gun battery orchestra :P
The person standing next to the gun could be changed to indicate how many men it takes to man each gun/turret next to the gun itself, more useful than just 1 person next to each gun…
The dude standing next to the gun is for scale, so that you can see just how BIG these guns are.
@@edgardox.feliciano3127 Uh...yeah. That's the point of the OP's comment.
@@edgardox.feliciano3127 of course I know that
That's very clever actually ! that would be a good improvement to the video/futur video.
It'd be neat to see the shells and powder bags on the sides too!
People that watch these videos need to understand that the makers are only including real ships. You won’t see your favorite paper ships in these videos.
Hey y’all should add in Uss Mississippi a New Mexico class battleship along with Uss Idaho also in New Mexico class
The funniest content from the most serious profiles. Like here. Accurate representations of battles and exact replicas of ships. Hilarious. A little further on game, you will find Godzilla and Kink Kong fighting aliens and a company of people sleeping and waking up looking for ways to get from you euro. Reliability Zero.
Epic how they look and how big some of them are
Nice comparison, but I was hoping they would show the actual weight of the guns.
It'll be funny when they do the British with Furious's massive single 18 inch gun.
Multiple mistakes made in this video. 1) there is a difference between a mount and a turret. A mount is bolted to the deck while a turret is held in place via gravity. 2) there is a difference between triple and three gun. Twin, triple, quad, etc. means that if u move one gun, the others move alongside with it. Whereas 2, 3, 4, etc. gun turret/mount means each INDIVIDUAL gun can be raised, lowered, and fired individually, all together, or in any combination of the total
Thank you
This post shows several misconceptions, albeit commonly-held ones. First, turrets need not be held in place only by gravity - most later "turrets" were, but if you want to get hyper-technical, they are gun houses, not "turrets", mounted on barbettes. If you look at the original naval turret, on USS Monitor, it had a central spindle, which was a definite weak point. Second, mounts are not always bolted on to decks. Turrets have mountings too, and even by your definition, they clearly can't be bolted to a (not "the") deck. (What of mounts ON turrets?!) Thirdly, the distinction you draw between a triple and a three-gun turret is a distinction only drawn by certain American authors, and is used nowhere else; where turrets are classified as having individually sleeved mountings or not.
I'm so happy im about to get the Alaska after it having the biggest guns for a cruiser. You can call it a mini battleship damn near 🤷♂️
Forgot to put Alabama on the second to last gun. The 16 inch 45 caliber
IIRC the Pensacola & Portland class 203mm guns are "triple turrets" and were not individually sleeved - they had to be elevated at the same time. It wasn't until the New Orleans class that the 203mm became "3 gun turrets" which can elevate independently.
6:46 Massachusetts, North Carolina...
Alabama: :(
I'm looking forward to the next comparison video.
не передали масштаб
могли удалять камеру вверх, чтобы было ощутимо, насколько следующая больше предыдущей.
I need a couple in my front yard and a couple in the back yard of the 406.
Yes! More of this
I assume IJN, Kriegsmarine and Russian Navy are next. Great job. 👍
Well as most of the Russian ships in the game we're never built, I imagine they'd have a hard time with that. IJN, RN, KM etc would be good to see though!
@@xtod9892 They did build the guns tho. Maybe instead of turret they could do gun comparision instead. Or well they could stick with cruisers and destroyer turrets at worst
RIP Erie, no one pays attention to her.
The USN has the coolest looking turrets ever, love the late bb/ca/bc flat design and the 127mm twin.
By the way, Gearing model update when?
"Bit by bit, its low priority"
IJN yamato 🙂✌🏻
Should have thrown the Schwerer Gustav in for a laugh.
It would be nice to add the range of each gun in the description
For Destroyers, the 5 inch Mark 30 Mod 1 twin mount was found on the Sumner and the Gearing class.
My grandfather served on a Gearing class. USS Floyd B. Parkes.
Japanese gun turrets next?
I never realized that none of the American ships has 15" guns.
Yeah, I wonder what is the reason of why did some European navies (i.e German, Italian, French, rarely UK) choose 15 inch over 16 inch, with higher caliber guns you got higher penetration and range right? (generally).
I only see odd number calibers (i.e 11, 13 and 15 inchers) on EU ships.
Escalation. Most of the time, the Europeans would pick a caliber first, and the Americans would try to keep up or outmatch
Can't wait for the German version of this!
That why i love iowa class cuz it has big cannon
Fact: WOW official gets a lot of views from trailers and these
That's a hell of a lot of steel !
Those twin 5"38's are not turret mounts. Even on ATLANTA and her sisters, they were all ring (deck) mounts.
I would not call most of them twins or triplets. Twin and triplet mean that all barrels are connected to each other and elevate at the same time. If barrels can elevate in a single mode, those turrets called two gun turrets or three gun turrets.
I don't know how many, but quite a few of them did have all the barrels connected like that. It was a feature they used to keep the turrets narrow enough to fit on the older hulls.
@@waverleyjournalise5757 Colorado and Oklahoma yes,but the NC and Iowa can lift their guns independently
2 independent guns in a single turret are called "Dual" and 2 slaved guns are as you say "Twin".
Schwerer Gustav: that's nothing to me 😏🤚 Iowa turret: 😒
I love world of warships
love this series, may i reccommended to show year with the ship name? it would be best to know which year that guns built.
Greetings from a Vietnamese Chinese French person living in California 😁. USS California for the win 💪🇺🇸💣
@•✨mark✨* cool.
Yeah !! Guns, so many guns, I like guns !! Life is good !
Hope ya'll do the same for other nations...
Germany next! Then Japan! And so on so forth
Ye
I don't think I've seen anyone play Oklahoma until now lol
Weighing them up is one thing but write there the actuall weight is another...
Tip: watch it on playback 2x
Looking good, maybe other nation next? and maybe even video about AA guns?
The largest AA gun is 460mm
@@anikiaickson2952 that's literally yamato guns, either your referencing that or you're just stupid
Bro took pull out the big guns serious