The RNG is what made me eventually stop playing. I got tired of bad players being rewarded for playing badly as they sailed broadside on taking no real damage due to overpens and RNG misses. It just wasn't fun.
@@AllAhabNoMoby RNG can be insanely infuriating when you do everything right and get rekt by a dumbass that makes all mistakes but gets lucky. This is what kicked me away from wargaming in WoT. This and HP pools (great, you flanked your enemy. You get one extra shot, so when you both start at 2400 hp you end up with 400 left at the end (assuming 400 per shot and nobody near), just to get killed by one shot from now on. Assuming no weird bounces and so on, that is not really wits rewarding imho...)
Another great example why to not play the game but to watch others to do so. I would have been furious about the carrier deck bounces while shooting the biggest guns in the game, about the disperson, about the lock-ons... thanks for playing it
I watched this video twice, and focused on the mini map on the second viewing to see how the other flank collapsed so quickly. Alaska, Shima and Sherman all rushed into C cap... Sherman died in the cap immediately to Yugumo torps....then Shima somehow gor gunned down in the cap by Yamgiri (no radar, how was he spotted?) and then Alaska was alone , in the cap and died to Patrie, which left Bourgogne all alone against 4 red ships. As for mid cap, Humphreys was alone and had no help, and Hanover could have easily put hydro on B cap to help Humphreys, instead Hannover sat behind an island near spawn. Humphreys then sailed into enemy spawn with no exit path and got pinched and killed by Conde, yes he helped spot the CV, but he should have realized how important it was for him to stay alive. Why two destroyers sailed immediately into C cap was first mistake, Alaska should never have been so far in the cap to begin was second mistake, and Hannover needed to push up mid and create a crossfire and tank. I would ask all of you to watch this again, and ask yourself if this is how you play, then dont be surprised when you lose by steamroll.
When I started playing this game, you had no problem getting dev strikes with battleship salvos and nailing citadels all day long. But now it's all over pens and ricochets. All the ships I spent time grinding the tech tree for are all so power crept. Such a shame because it used to be so much fun.
Flambass, you're absolute genius in destroyers, cruisers and French BBs, but your hull angling in this game was making my butt pucker. lol You're showing way too much of Satsuma's cheek most of the time and sailing broadside on the 1 line to multiple enemy BBs in the mid map. I've learned a ton from watching your dd and cruiser videos, but you play Japanese BBs like it's an arranged marriage. lol
Its amazing how Satsuma actually managed to be quite well ballanced, just like Yamato. Its what happenes when a ship only trait, good reliable accuracy is left to RNG to decide regardless. Its a similar story with how Hannover is complete garbage, just like GK and Preussen, their whole trait is armour and durability, and since all anyone use nowadays is HE, that entire trait is nulified
In all honesty, I think the only problem you had in this game flambass was focusing your damage. It does not matter if the ship is 50 % hp or 1 % HP it still does the same damage and there were so many low hp ships around to kill, but were ignored.
Big guns are supposed to chunk, not waste all their potential damage into low HP ships. Other ships can do it. Of course it's mostly in theory, with teammates lacking braincells, you have to do everything, but expecting a Yamato-class to do everything is the same as expecting all of your DDs to survive more than 3 minutes. In the end if the whole team was unable to finish more than one ship, it's certainly not a single player's fault.
@@ipatchymakouli415 Removing other ships from the game is more impactful than raw damage. If raw damage and hitting unsaturated ships was the most important thing to do, the British BB line would be broken. But it isn't.
@@ipatchymakouli415Those are working guns on the field. Doesn't matter how much HP they have. You remove them, you help the overall gameplan. It's not brain surgery.
3 minutes into this battle and you can see on the mini-map which team will win this match. Something is terribly wrong with this game when a carrier can deflect a hit from Satsuma's super guns.
Well the super ships were mainly added as a credit sink and not designed to make money. For them, you basically play your premiums to make enough money to have a few fun rounds in your supers, rinse and repeat. T10 used to be the same way back in the day. Unless you had an above average match and/or stacked the crap out of special flags (econ bonuses now), you would bleed credits.
Well, can't let that immovable fortress of a carrier get blind shot anymore, need to make your mouse move somehow, locking onto a ship outside of your FOV seems logical enough, all within gameplay parameters, truly.
Some ships have a super-power or gimmick related to F key that you can charge by doing some actions in the match, usually superships and the South American cruisers have it. In satsuma its supposed to give godlike accuracy for like 24s or so. The meter charges by landing shells near targets.
came back to world of warships and never tried random battles, just playing coop missions and having fun, if i want to play my Yamato i just play couple of games against bots. Never been so happy not touching random button.
You and many others. Co-op, T4-6 Randoms and Operations are increasingly the dominatie gameplay in WoWS. That tells you the state of high tier play currently.
5s on google: Supership Combat Capability - Immediate Main Battery Fire Adjustment Satsuma is equipped with the Immediate Main Battery Fire Adjustment combat instruction, which reduces main battery shell dispersion for a short period of time. It can be activated after firing 12 main battery turrets at locked-on enemy targets. Requirements: Can only be used after successful gun adjustment firing. Required number of qualified gun shots: 10 Effects: Maximum main battery disperson: -35% Action time: 25 seconds
i love this game but man the inaccuracy of the guns for BB's is ridiculous, especially the American BB's. the Iowa and Montana's guns should be able to hit spot on their target without such a massive spread of their shells. the spread is absolutely terrible. sometimes i fire all 12 funs and only 1 or 2 hit. thats ridiculous.
As someone who doesn't play the game, can someone tell me what that bar below his aim that ticks up when he deals damage and does the annoying ticking down? What mechanic is that and what purpose does it serve?
It's a "combat instruction". A new gimmick for (mostly) superships, like the Satsuma. The gimmick varies from ship to ship. For the Satsuma, once activated, it gives your guns -35% dispersion for 25 seconds. Useful when sniping, I guess.
I'm not a great player, I'm really not. My win rate is something like .40 or maybe .45. But the RNG makes no sense to me. I'll angle and take a citadel. But I can sail broadside, and tank shells, or even ricochet them. I've broadsided cruisers at sub 5k and missed every shell by a km, or if they hit, just get overpens despite it being a perfect waterline volley. I know I can play a lot better than I do, but it doesn't seem to be worth bothering with, because the RNG just nullifies any attempts to play "by the rules".
During early time of almost every good games was good. It was until when they started becoming a pay to win game. Veterans can still struggle but it doesn’t feel the same like when the world was roamed with many skilled players.
The P2W aspect really only a main issue in the top tiers, hence why T4-6 and Operations have become so popular last 6 months and have started to make up the majority of gameplay. Edit: there are a few very strong p2w premiums T4-6, but its not as prevalent as say T9/10 premiums are.
Its a catch 22. Damage is important and it looks and feels good, but its not a direct indicator of impact, which is the most important factor in determining how a game swings.
Ah typical randoms someone in chat with a smaller more maneuverable ship complaining that a larger, less maneuverable ship, messed them up and got them killed, then asks people to report them lol. Like reporting them is going to do anything.
@@skylarsimes8 I don't play carriers but I did know this somewhere in the back of my mind. Didn't look at the tier, just the stats, looks like wargaming did him a solid eh?
@@loganmiller5240 This was years ago. And CVs are worse than they were back than XD. So not really. Permanent stats he can never fix and a class that's even worse tonplay against and more boring to play :p
@@skylarsimes8 Actually carriers were more powerful, the catch was the skill floor was MUCH higher. After the rework the skill floor was lowered way down and made more accessible so now the average potato can be good, whereas before the majority of CV players hardly made an impact due to CV's being heavily skill-reliant, which made them seem far weaker vs today. If this makes sense.
Elaborate why that would have ever made more sense instead of what was played? Every time a DD or Cruiser could have been shot at (spotted long enough and LOS/LOF) they were facing towards or away from Flambass. And those moments were sparse in the match, the DDs on his flank nevery showed themselves long enough, the single CL on his flank kept himself out of the Satsumas guns and later the Roon was also coming towards him long range, which also wasn't a viable target. You rather want him to shoot 4-8 Salvos for a combined Damage of 0-15000 on nimble targets that have hands (can play) instead of doing potentially 23k with each of those. I respect your ability to formulate and express an opinion, but watching the video should be at least expected before critiquing the gameplay.
Super ships are so boring, i play weaker ships on purpose to make it more tasty when i kill op ships, there is nothing like open water 1 v 1 a Montty with a Colbert and winning, this game is shit, after 7 years of playing i have to find ways to make my own fun, +2 mm, subs, CVs, super ships, super Cvs, WG, all this things do their best to ruin the fun of this game.
if flambass is a WG CC, then judging by his body behaviour, they should be proper worried :D i've never seen someone so apathetic loading into a game before :D
frankly i failed to see the problem , (p2w or not / rng or not) this is a quintessentially a japanese ship just scaled up . What more is there to expect .
unfortunately thats the only consistent way to farm damage now, since tanking is considered “throwing” by wg staff (literally, they said it on a stream 😂) they made absolutely brick walls in submarines that snake everyone scared to push now, especially the Gato. got 60k dev struck full hp by one tonight, undetected at 3km, unbelievable
@@andreasapostolopoulos2131 Yet here you all are consuming content about a game you dont play or care about. Never undersood that. There were alot of CC'ers with games Ive enjoyed over the years, but If I have no intention or care to play a game, I'm def not going to consume any content about it. Thats just me I guess
Biggest gun in the game....oh no slight angling on a light cruiser....my only weakness.....someone forgot to rifle my barrels....my only other weakness
I have played this game consistently for 7 years. Somewhre around middle of third year, i discovered some admins clicking themselves off my blacklist. Since then i´ve noticed patterns of behaviour regarind admins monitoring and intervening in ships in real time. It is the disguting behaviour of casions belonging to the sicilian maffia back in the 50´s. I have never paid for aanythig, and never will. That´s why i still play it but not seriously. This game is rigged big time.
Thank you for still playing this game, so we don't have to!
My thoughts exactly! Stopped a year and a half ago now but enjoy watching :)
Why what is wrong with this game?
The RNG is what made me eventually stop playing. I got tired of bad players being rewarded for playing badly as they sailed broadside on taking no real damage due to overpens and RNG misses. It just wasn't fun.
Really? The RNG is what did it?? For me that's like nr 7 on the list! 😂 (Still playing btw)
@@AllAhabNoMoby RNG can be insanely infuriating when you do everything right and get rekt by a dumbass that makes all mistakes but gets lucky. This is what kicked me away from wargaming in WoT. This and HP pools (great, you flanked your enemy. You get one extra shot, so when you both start at 2400 hp you end up with 400 left at the end (assuming 400 per shot and nobody near), just to get killed by one shot from now on. Assuming no weird bounces and so on, that is not really wits rewarding imho...)
@@rysiii811 Oh I get it, it can drive you nuts. But for me at least, subs are MUCH worse. YMMV of course.
Don’t play Russian games.
Just like in poker, you need some RNG for the fish to have a chance and keep coming back
Chat calling enemy CV player a crayon eater was too kind. Pretty sure he was actually seeing how far he could shove them up his nose....
Another great example why to not play the game but to watch others to do so. I would have been furious about the carrier deck bounces while shooting the biggest guns in the game, about the disperson, about the lock-ons... thanks for playing it
Cv have the best armor in the game
I watched this video twice, and focused on the mini map on the second viewing to see how the other flank collapsed so quickly. Alaska, Shima and Sherman all rushed into C cap... Sherman died in the cap immediately to Yugumo torps....then Shima somehow gor gunned down in the cap by Yamgiri (no radar, how was he spotted?) and then Alaska was alone , in the cap and died to Patrie, which left Bourgogne all alone against 4 red ships. As for mid cap, Humphreys was alone and had no help, and Hanover could have easily put hydro on B cap to help Humphreys, instead Hannover sat behind an island near spawn. Humphreys then sailed into enemy spawn with no exit path and got pinched and killed by Conde, yes he helped spot the CV, but he should have realized how important it was for him to stay alive. Why two destroyers sailed immediately into C cap was first mistake, Alaska should never have been so far in the cap to begin was second mistake, and Hannover needed to push up mid and create a crossfire and tank. I would ask all of you to watch this again, and ask yourself if this is how you play, then dont be surprised when you lose by steamroll.
Good observation!
Ah yes, the "Lemming Offense."
WG has done something genius. They've eliminated aim bots by making the core aiming mechanic behave like an aimbot. Brilliant really.
When I started playing this game, you had no problem getting dev strikes with battleship salvos and nailing citadels all day long. But now it's all over pens and ricochets. All the ships I spent time grinding the tech tree for are all so power crept. Such a shame because it used to be so much fun.
Absolutely correct
play modern warships, pc version coming soon
@@Bluepie410 The gameplay of modern warships is totally different to WoWs.
@@LarryWater yea, it's modern warships just as named suggests
@@LarryWater you will still find ships like Yamato and Missouri there
Flambass, have you ever fallen into sleep during the game? I did.
The opening image of this video was just so awesomely funny !!
Me: I got some pretty big guns....
Her: Really?
Me: *takes her home to show her a Shikishima game
Flambass, you're absolute genius in destroyers, cruisers and French BBs, but your hull angling in this game was making my butt pucker. lol You're showing way too much of Satsuma's cheek most of the time and sailing broadside on the 1 line to multiple enemy BBs in the mid map. I've learned a ton from watching your dd and cruiser videos, but you play Japanese BBs like it's an arranged marriage. lol
Can't wait for a bigger ship with 12 of these guns and more.
Its amazing how Satsuma actually managed to be quite well ballanced, just like Yamato. Its what happenes when a ship only trait, good reliable accuracy is left to RNG to decide regardless.
Its a similar story with how Hannover is complete garbage, just like GK and Preussen, their whole trait is armour and durability, and since all anyone use nowadays is HE, that entire trait is nulified
In all honesty, I think the only problem you had in this game flambass was focusing your damage.
It does not matter if the ship is 50 % hp or 1 % HP it still does the same damage and there were so many low hp ships around to kill, but were ignored.
Flambass did fine it's the teammates who kept dying without doing anything other than farming damage without killing.
he did ignore juicier targets to finish off weaker ones this game tho
Big guns are supposed to chunk, not waste all their potential damage into low HP ships. Other ships can do it.
Of course it's mostly in theory, with teammates lacking braincells, you have to do everything, but expecting a Yamato-class to do everything is the same as expecting all of your DDs to survive more than 3 minutes.
In the end if the whole team was unable to finish more than one ship, it's certainly not a single player's fault.
@@ipatchymakouli415 Removing other ships from the game is more impactful than raw damage. If raw damage and hitting unsaturated ships was the most important thing to do, the British BB line would be broken. But it isn't.
@@ipatchymakouli415Those are working guns on the field. Doesn't matter how much HP they have. You remove them, you help the overall gameplan.
It's not brain surgery.
3 minutes into this battle and you can see on the mini-map which team will win this match.
Something is terribly wrong with this game when a carrier can deflect a hit from Satsuma's super guns.
What a great team on C..
i got the satsuma too and i enjoy the ship but cant play it much cause you dont earn enough credits to keep playing it
Well the super ships were mainly added as a credit sink and not designed to make money. For them, you basically play your premiums to make enough money to have a few fun rounds in your supers, rinse and repeat. T10 used to be the same way back in the day. Unless you had an above average match and/or stacked the crap out of special flags (econ bonuses now), you would bleed credits.
Lmao i cant believe those two drove into each other hahahahaha
This shows why the broadside of the ship should not be exposed.
It's gun is so fucking big it takes time to fully traverse
I already have high blood pressure, why am I watching this game again
cool another flambass youtube video
good game - thank you for posting
What is that F button cd do?
Well, can't let that immovable fortress of a carrier get blind shot anymore, need to make your mouse move somehow, locking onto a ship outside of your FOV seems logical enough, all within gameplay parameters, truly.
What exactly is this F-key doing on Satsuma. I don't get it because I don't play this game I'm only enjoined Flambass😅
Some ships have a super-power or gimmick related to F key that you can charge by doing some actions in the match, usually superships and the South American cruisers have it. In satsuma its supposed to give godlike accuracy for like 24s or so. The meter charges by landing shells near targets.
It's good to know that even flambass gets losing teams once in a while
came back to world of warships and never tried random battles, just playing coop missions and having fun, if i want to play my Yamato i just play couple of games against bots. Never been so happy not touching random button.
You and many others. Co-op, T4-6 Randoms and Operations are increasingly the dominatie gameplay in WoWS. That tells you the state of high tier play currently.
What does that 'F' function do?
It activates a gimmick, in the case of Satsuma it gives him a temporary but massive boost in accuracy.
@@AllAhabNoMoby I see. Thx
Yamato hull?
Welp i have to do the Japanese tech tree now. Currently playing Italian and German. I have to have those massive guns.
And with those massive guns, comes massive frustrating overpens all the time lol.
What does that F skill do ?
5s on google: Supership Combat Capability - Immediate Main Battery Fire Adjustment
Satsuma is equipped with the Immediate Main Battery Fire Adjustment combat instruction, which reduces main battery shell dispersion for a short period of time. It can be activated after firing 12 main battery turrets at locked-on enemy targets.
Requirements:
Can only be used after successful gun adjustment firing.
Required number of qualified gun shots: 10
Effects:
Maximum main battery disperson: -35%
Action time: 25 seconds
Make ur gun more accurate. Basically when u activate it it become laser accurate gun
nice works
i love this game but man the inaccuracy of the guns for BB's is ridiculous, especially the American BB's. the Iowa and Montana's guns should be able to hit spot on their target without such a massive spread of their shells. the spread is absolutely terrible. sometimes i fire all 12 funs and only 1 or 2 hit. thats ridiculous.
That random cit from daisen...
As someone who doesn't play the game, can someone tell me what that bar below his aim that ticks up when he deals damage and does the annoying ticking down? What mechanic is that and what purpose does it serve?
It's a "combat instruction". A new gimmick for (mostly) superships, like the Satsuma. The gimmick varies from ship to ship. For the Satsuma, once activated, it gives your guns -35% dispersion for 25 seconds. Useful when sniping, I guess.
@@GardEngebretsen Yeap. Useful in getting even more overpens.
I'm not a great player, I'm really not. My win rate is something like .40 or maybe .45. But the RNG makes no sense to me. I'll angle and take a citadel. But I can sail broadside, and tank shells, or even ricochet them. I've broadsided cruisers at sub 5k and missed every shell by a km, or if they hit, just get overpens despite it being a perfect waterline volley.
I know I can play a lot better than I do, but it doesn't seem to be worth bothering with, because the RNG just nullifies any attempts to play "by the rules".
I was going to say that this looks like one of my games... But then you got a cit. Totally not realistic.
During early time of almost every good games was good. It was until when they started becoming a pay to win game. Veterans can still struggle but it doesn’t feel the same like when the world was roamed with many skilled players.
The P2W aspect really only a main issue in the top tiers, hence why T4-6 and Operations have become so popular last 6 months and have started to make up the majority of gameplay.
Edit: there are a few very strong p2w premiums T4-6, but its not as prevalent as say T9/10 premiums are.
I get frustrated when I get like 175K and lose. I’d be infuriated with more than 300K and still losing! 🤣
Its a catch 22. Damage is important and it looks and feels good, but its not a direct indicator of impact, which is the most important factor in determining how a game swings.
But Vermont cita and sigma performance is better
Wow your back must be mighty tired after that
Yikes
That uncooked pasta on glass sound makes me cringe…
Has anyone told Wargaming to fix these broken issues, or am I just extra sensitive today?
Well they reported 1.1B in revenue last year, so I doubt they care.
What's up with the cash register noises when damage is tallied up after a salvo? It's annoying.
To remind you how many credits you are bleeding after playing a super.
Video: 😁
Comments: 😐
Ah typical randoms someone in chat with a smaller more maneuverable ship complaining that a larger, less maneuverable ship, messed them up and got them killed, then asks people to report them lol. Like reporting them is going to do anything.
I'd still pick Yamato
Guns working as intended? Did you even get a citadel in the first 8 minutes? Even on your regular shots, you were doing pathetic damage. 510mm my ass.
Welcome to the frustration-city that is playing BB's with high calibers.
By the looks of the stats you're going to be playing Essex for weeks......120 battles PR 1382 , ouch
You do know ever odd teir carrier was removed right? It's o ly 4 6 8 an 10 + supers
@@skylarsimes8 I don't play carriers but I did know this somewhere in the back of my mind. Didn't look at the tier, just the stats, looks like wargaming did him a solid eh?
@@loganmiller5240 This was years ago. And CVs are worse than they were back than XD. So not really. Permanent stats he can never fix and a class that's even worse tonplay against and more boring to play :p
@@skylarsimes8 Actually carriers were more powerful, the catch was the skill floor was MUCH higher. After the rework the skill floor was lowered way down and made more accessible so now the average potato can be good, whereas before the majority of CV players hardly made an impact due to CV's being heavily skill-reliant, which made them seem far weaker vs today. If this makes sense.
would have been 400k with a mediocre team
Imagine losing a game where the enemy CV is afk 💀💀💀
...you often look disgusted and angry when you game. Do you actually still enjoy it?
Time and time again i see you hesitate to use repairs or regens when if you dont you die.stop holding back.
No single shoot to dd or ca... farming bb simulator
Elaborate why that would have ever made more sense instead of what was played?
Every time a DD or Cruiser could have been shot at (spotted long enough and LOS/LOF) they were facing towards or away from Flambass.
And those moments were sparse in the match, the DDs on his flank nevery showed themselves long enough, the single CL on his flank kept himself out of the Satsumas guns and later the Roon was also coming towards him long range, which also wasn't a viable target.
You rather want him to shoot 4-8 Salvos for a combined Damage of 0-15000 on nimble targets that have hands (can play) instead of doing potentially 23k with each of those.
I respect your ability to formulate and express an opinion, but watching the video should be at least expected before critiquing the gameplay.
@mstis3893 And this is how you know you're a shitter.
Quickybaby of WoWS?
Super ships are so boring, i play weaker ships on purpose to make it more tasty when i kill op ships, there is nothing like open water 1 v 1 a Montty with a Colbert and winning, this game is shit, after 7 years of playing i have to find ways to make my own fun, +2 mm, subs, CVs, super ships, super Cvs, WG, all this things do their best to ruin the fun of this game.
team to heavy
farming damage is so easy in this ship, its like another version of cvs
World of Warships? No but World of Bullshit
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if flambass is a WG CC, then judging by his body behaviour, they should be proper worried :D i've never seen someone so apathetic loading into a game before :D
frankly i failed to see the problem , (p2w or not / rng or not) this is a quintessentially a japanese ship just scaled up . What more is there to expect .
This is why you don’t play Russian games. Besides Metro their all garbage grind fest with semi pay2win but mostly pay2 grind less BS.
ww3
get gud
It's game play like this that made me quit the game years ago....and then complaining about dispersion? Yawn....
unfortunately thats the only consistent way to farm damage now, since tanking is considered “throwing” by wg staff (literally, they said it on a stream 😂) they made absolutely brick walls in submarines that snake everyone scared to push now, especially the Gato. got 60k dev struck full hp by one tonight, undetected at 3km, unbelievable
@@chromosomecommander7118 Indeed...that's why I stopped playing....
@@chromosomecommander7118 stopped playing as well, and never going back. I want my sanity and peace of mind intact. Fcking ashat of a game.
@@chromosomecommander7118 I know....hence I don't play any longer....still love Flambass' annihilations though
@@andreasapostolopoulos2131 Yet here you all are consuming content about a game you dont play or care about. Never undersood that. There were alot of CC'ers with games Ive enjoyed over the years, but If I have no intention or care to play a game, I'm def not going to consume any content about it. Thats just me I guess
Sound armamentbis bad
"Every single shell overpenned" AND THAT, is why Battleships Carry High Explosive shells.
And that is why I stopped playing large caliber BB's lol.
Biggest gun in the game....oh no slight angling on a light cruiser....my only weakness.....someone forgot to rifle my barrels....my only other weakness
I have played this game consistently for 7 years. Somewhre around middle of third year, i discovered some admins clicking themselves off my blacklist. Since then i´ve noticed patterns of behaviour regarind admins monitoring and intervening in ships in real time. It is the disguting behaviour of casions belonging to the sicilian maffia back in the 50´s. I have never paid for aanythig, and never will. That´s why i still play it but not seriously. This game is rigged big time.