Everyone carried now?! - Season 2 Version 1.24 Tier List - Guilty Gear Strive
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- Опубликовано: 11 июл 2024
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Intro - 0:00:00
Gio 0:00:13
Sol 0:01:50
Ky 0:02:30
May 0:02:45
Axl 0:04:20
Chipp 0:04:52
Happy Chaos 0:06:40
Potemkin 0:07:58
Faust 0:10:00
Millia 0:11:14
Testament 0:12:40
Zato 0:13:30
Ram 0:16:15
Nago 0:17:35
Leo 0:19:00
Anji 0:21:20
I-No 0:22:55
Goldlewis 0:24:00
Jack-O 0:26:52
Baiken 0:30:15
Bridget 0:31:50
Sin 0:34:39 
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I’ve been getting the sense that you really can’t sleep on any characters in the game even if you’re playing a winning MU. Sounds like something that will really raise the skill ceiling.
Sol, and this is something I would argue has been the case for a couple patches now, is in a position where he has the freedom to vary the presentation of his tools enough to make them threatening with proper application despite the tools themselves mostly being only decent/ok
There are very few things sol has rn that are still best in class and he has things now that are just straight up bad.
That being said, he still has that x factor where if he's able to catch you on something he was anticipating, you can just die for it.
His damage potential has surprisingly not changed much over the games lifetime but his ease of access to that damage has been curbed significantly over time
He loses a lot of matchups in the game rn but of those matchups, barely a handful are genuinely bad.
Personally, I'm unhappy with the state he's in atm and frustrated with how many inconsistencies the character has to deal with now as a result of the changes the devs have made to him. It's better for everyone else tho and that's all that matters
i learned something new today. thanks for the video.
Yo, don't suppose you have any advice for the chipp/pot matchup. I feel like I'm gambling any time I'm on defense against a good chipp, which is often, given the frame data in the matchup; abare is a necessity or the chipp will get away with murder, but 5p gets low profiled and other moves are often too slow for the gap (as an example, after blocking chipp's 6k, chipp's 2k will beat everything but megafist or buster, depending on spacing. Though low reward, chipp's 5p will stuff everything). Outside of attempted pressure resets (gamma blade) and chipp's riskier plays, it feels incredibly difficult to find an out.
I've been experimenting with pot's 5k as my new go-to to stuff a grounded approach due to the disjoint and active frames, was wondering if there were any other interactions that come to mind that you don't see enough pot's aware of.
Some matchups as Pot as so difficult in the neutral aspect like Chipp and Bridget that I'm putting him aside to learn Leo. I'm considered a notable Pot, but those matchups feel so ungappable in neutral at high level that I don't even bother with it now.
Tbqh i see a lot of sol's dooming over the state hes in compared to the rest of the cast and on one hand i get it cause certain matchups feel terrible even tho on paper theyre close to even. But i cant help but feel that sol has the most potential to shine in the hands of someone who uses him optimally.
I think an interesting way to help stablize him a bit might be to speed up his dash slightly, to make neutral against mid range characters a bit less of a slog while not removing the rushdown strike throw identity arcsys is trying to force him into by giving him back a good 6s
Alright this video is already godlike you actually spit facts about gio players needing to be really good cause she's a tough character 🫡 someone gets it and it brings a tear to my eye
As soon as you said Faust whiffing far slash into far slash, I was like "whew, he's not talking about my Faust" lol. I mean I ain't godlike but I ain't tryna lose neutral for free like that. Also Chipp is my demon RN but I gotta practice against him more.
I'd say I-no is probably top of A+, if not somewhere in S, but she needs to be in the hands of a strong player for her to get there ( i.e. not me )
Her main issue is that she has to make riskier gambles against most of the top tiers, but I'd say she's pretty strong otherwise
i'm comforted by the fact that if you mention millia, He will always appear in the comments
Dread it, run from it? He still arrives.
Jacko is a solid top 7, she is good but elevated bcuz her counterplay is obscure and she frustrates people, kinda like zato but primarily with strike/throw instead of on block mixing you like him
The point made around 11:20 has me a bit confused. I play GL and chipp is a really hard matchup for me. But everyone, including the chipp players, just says tge way to beat him is to preemptively swing and hit him as he tries to get in. But the problem I run into is that I feel like within the range of my fastest buttons, chipp has a better move to whip out and counter hit. And if I swang before he is in range, chipp tends to chill or backdash through it and immediately punish whatever it is. So a Faust player who does 2fs, to me, sounds like what everyone says you have to do to fight chip. Obviously, 2 fs are not a great choice to do twice in a row but I'm mainly talking about the mindset with how to deal with him
The key to beating Chipp is to utilize a lot of low committal options. For Faust, the key is in his 2p and very sparingly using his far slash. My point was that most Fausts tend to swing another far slash immediately after whiffing one instead of blocking. Getting a strong fundamental game with Faust is key.
Goldlewis 2P can actually lead to some excellent conversions. When chipp goes for an unsafe overhead you should practice snuffing it.
I think there are some characters way harder than others to play, for instance Chipp and Milia, they can't make a single mistake or the game is over, unless you well burst and get a chance for a second mistake which will be your last, compared to Nago or others that can simply play ignorant and try again after they get comboed. I admire how you play Chipp, he was my main to go since older games BUT... in Strive I couldn't keep up with him, a single hit and I was dead, so I stopped playing him at least online without friends. Milia has some mixups impossible to block for normal people but rarely can make good use of them at the highest level, first you need to knock down your enemy, and even being faster than most and with higher air mobility it is hard sometimes, then after you knock it down you could make a perfect or perform a not well timed oki and get rekt.
People complai why don't we see more Millia players performing well on tournaments or why is it always almost the same top tiers, but if you are playing for the money I can understand how hard it is to simply get a bad match and explode in less than 10 seconds on stage/bracket, heartbreaking man.
Imagine Chipp getting caught by Heavenly Potemkin Buster...
Sin main here… yeah that checks out
Putting half the cast in Chipp tier is hella downplaying. And calling that S? S tier is for characters off the chart of the ABCs.
S) HC, Leo, May
A+) Ram, Chipp, Nago, Jack-O
A) Bridget, Testament, Baiken, Gio, Zato
A-) GL, Millia, Axl
B+) Sol, Anji, Faust
B) Ky, I-no, Pot, Sin
Honestly, HC could be S+. 2S and 2K are BOTH god buttons. Curse is way too easy to connect and recovers way too fast. Uncursed gunshots track way too well. He gains so much meter and spends it so well. Just ignores burst with many combo routes and is glad to get reset to full screen if he does get hit. Roll means he never eats an aggressive burst. And on top of all that he gets some of the highest damage in the game. Better tools than Jack-O, Testament, Bridget, Chipp, Zato and then outdamages them all.
Do u think even if someone plays sin it can definitely compete with the rest of the cast or he is just extremely worse than the rest of the cast
Song at 24:00 ?
I feel like darkrai might just be unironically gapping
can i have the music playlist bro 🥺
i need a baiken chipp matchup guide
I feel I-No struggling this patch in comparison to other characters. But even with her, the power gap between her and the top tiers is not *that* huge, as Daru shows.
Just nerf HC a smidge and I would be happy with the state of the game right now.
The fact, for me, is that a lot of people seem to not separate pro play from casuals, constructive criticism from spitting.
The game, even with HC, has a very good balance. Any character in this game can be a real menace.
People listen to a pro being salty against x character and they will follow blindly.
People will loose to x character multiple times and claim that is broken, without thinking really about what can they do and as you said: FONDAMENTALS.
Lot of people claiming that x character is trash or completely unbalanced most of the time lack fondamentals.
If there is a real problem about this game is how certain characters don't need solid basics to do the job.
"how good? I don't know"
And
"Chipp loses this matchup"
86% of the video, right there
Did you just say millia is S tier? You're about to summon izumi and you know it :') Real talk tho, as a millia main I just love seeing her getting some love in somebody's tier list regardless of how good she actually really is.
@Konakon izumi I don't see anyone else downplay her like you do. You're the only one who thinks she's complete dogshit so your opinion doesnt really matter does it?
Zato is placed way too low buddy
True pots are carried in their "neutral" by googoogaga buttons like 2d🐊
why the hell is Jack o S? I want to hear someone explain.
Uhh This tierlist isnt based on your floor 10 -9. ok ? celestial or tourament player jackos are horrible to matching with them. if they put you in corner you have to spend yellow rc or burst ....
@@kamachunoFGC I feel like A or B is the only honest answer to this. Jack o has horrible movement, easy to kill minions, can lose EVEYRTHING in seconds, most of her stagger pressure can be beat with crouching p (not including the + frames from minions SOMETIMES), her risk reward is something else, and without minions, she is the worst in the game. if you know her blockstrings, I feel like it is completely easy to grasp what you should punish. celestial Jack o s are only good because YOU are not at their level. if you were, you could find a way to adapt to it.
@@sqcarolfgc its huge skill issue dude. just change your main. it means jacko isnt for you
@@kamachunoFGC wtf are you talking about? saying that Jack o is S is a major skill issue. placing a character way higher than they should be shows that you just can’t adapt. Also how the hell do you know that I main Jack o? why assume such?
@@kamachunoFGC how the hell did you reach the conclusion that I’m bad? You don’t know me, stop acting like it lol. I’m done arguing I have important things to do
I picked up chipp for fun and honestly he kind of feels like a better version of ky. The thing they share & the thing that makes them fair and not degenerate like the best characters is that their offense is actually interactive. You have to take risks and kind of guess on your own pressure. I appreciate people not down playing their characters but I’m not super high on chipp. Like you said it’s not like the char is really placing outside of bean. He doesn’t have a stable gameplan with immediate reward and imo that’s what strive encourages and that’s what good in tournament. Every time you lose to chipp you just got outplayed
Yo chill, I place too. 👀. lmaooo. Bean the goat though and yeah, he's tough to play at the highest level cause every mistake you make is punished heavily.
@@marvelo_vs no flame no flame hahaha 💙
Please Arcsys, buff Sin
In summary, stop whining cause every character is good.
Baiken is cap bro
Jacko beats chip 52-48? HAHAHAA lmao bruh just say u got outplayed 😂
What a hell Millia is doing in S tier
My man think baiken is good 🤓
S+ tier has 3 or less losing matchups you say, then you almost put Nago at the top of S tier with 6+ losing matchups? I dunno about that, man.
bruh who are the 6+ losing matchups for nago ?
I put Nago in S tier not S+. Nago is still amazing and wins a lot of matchups really hard. Super strong character. You can be S tier with 6 losing matchups (even though that might not be true).
@@someminorities Maybe they’re thinking of Bridget, Testament, HC, Faust, Zato, and Axl? Even then I think a few of those are a stretch.
@@magmaspacer1967 Swap Testament for Jacko and there you have it, 6 losing match ups. Slightly losing though, Nago has counter play and can win against everyone in the cast
millia placement is actually bs
another scrub millia 🚮🚮🚮
@@kamachunoFGC fuzzy jump everything but 2d disc