Were Ancient Indians VEGETARIAN or NOT? | Abhijit Chavda
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The dietary practices of the people during the Vedic period were diverse and varied. While it is known that the Vedic people consumed a range of plant-based foods, including fruits, vegetables, and grains, the extent of vegetarianism during that time is a subject of debate among scholars. The Vedic texts mention the consumption of meat, particularly of animals such as cattle, sheep, and goats, as part of sacrificial rituals and feasts. However, it is important to note that dietary practices could differ among individuals and social groups based on factors such as occupation, social status, and religious beliefs. Some scholars argue that vegetarianism may have been advocated by certain sects or individuals, while others suggest that meat consumption was prevalent but not exclusive.
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Swami Vivekananda cleared that concept most perfectly...he told to choose diet according to the profession of that particular person...
In case of Brahman,their profession was to teach and learn and writing books...so they ate satvik diet...but those persons who had to fight on a battlefield....meat was a part of diet for them....
Swami is more credible over random northie
I just don't get it. Where does this notion of "fighters should eat meat" comes from? If it implies that meat gives you strength, then it's totally baseless. Even the gladiators were vegetarian.
Edit: I tried to search a bit on it and I think I understand why meat is recommended for fighters. And It's NOT ABOUT STRENGTH.
So, there are 3 Gunas- Sattva, Rajo, Tamo. And various foods are recommended based on these gunas according to their Varnashram (not based on strength, because that would imply Brahmins MUST be physically weak which isn't the case).
And for a kshatriya it is required to have a relatively higher amount of Tamo gunn among all the Gunas and Varnas. Because Tamo gun is co related with aggression and restlessness. Which gives a certain edge in the battle.
And meat just happens to fall in the sphere of Tamo guna. So it's not meat that is recommended to a warrior, technically, it is all foods which increase your Tamo guna that are recommended.
Also it should be noted that among all 3 Gunas Sattva Guna is Considered the supreme. So it should be the goal of every individual of any Varna to ultimately move towards it.
One more thing, this doesn't mean that a person with higher level of Tamas will always win in a physical fight. Because we see many people with cool composure who can beat up an aggresive being.
Tamas is just supposed to add a different trait to your personality.
Sri Rama in Ramayan Is considered as one of the finest warriors of that era( and also that of Mahabharata that even Krishna praises him) and he wasn't an aggresive person. He was cool, calm, delightful along with being strong and brave hence Purushottam.
@@vaibhavyadav9912complete bs. Gladiators were all meat eaters
@@vaibhavyadav9912 if someone ever read charak samhita or other ayurvedic text....our ancient doctor had done a very elaborate classification of every food along with meats.... I think there are 33 type of meat (except beef)mentioned there with properties, benefits,and side effects...
If people were vegetarian...then what was the need of all those detailed discussions?
@@vaibhavyadav9912 lol just see the diet plan of any powerlifter and then decide
Vedic and Tantric texts mentions about animal sacrifices and meat eating after offering it to the deities. Indian culture have had both Veg and Non-Veg diet. Kudos Abhijt!!
I'm a non vegetarian myself but authentic Vedic translations do not tells anything about Sacrifice of animal but on the top of that calls that ritual as unholy. On the other hand Tantric practices are from Buddhism and mostly found in Bengal and Assam and that is not a part of Vedas , even in Bengal's Raksha Kali or Shyama Kali Puja people don't consume meat or anything non veg specially women , the animal sacrifice is only bound to some Sadhana Peethas of Bengal and Assam which are actually Anti Vedic.
@@wbfootball1211 many respected Hindu texts, including the Vedas, condone meat-eating and animal sacrifice. The vegetarianism in the modern Hindu society is a virtue borrowed from Buddhism and Jainism, and a relic of the times when these two sects had gained prominence.
No, tantra is completely vedic. In shakti puja( durga, kali etc) blood, meet, etc must be there in bhog. Sometimes fish are there as prasad
@@utsavchakraborty2300 the Vedas do not authorise Puranas and Tantric practices at all , the only thing the Vedas authorise is History such as Brahman Granths. The fish blood these all are not included in Shyama and Traditional Kali Puja of East India , try to offer non veg food as Prasad in Public Kali Pujas for easy suicide with little ammount of pain because the public will cut you off within two pieces with in a matter of sec.
@@utsavchakraborty2300 Vedas means knowledge, they aren't Tantric
"Let us not get emotional about this!" Very well said.
Yeah..let's not get emotional and just rape(artificial insemination) and murder animals as much we can. Isn't it? What a great justifier to an act of absolute Barbarity!
The fact that he even has to say this is sad
Taking a life is emotional. if you cant get emotional about that, why even call yourself a human.
@@CausallyExplained I appreciate your concern. I am a vegetarian. For me, even using a mosquito bat is stressful. But have you not heard the story of Dharmvyadh from Mahabharat? The story of a meat seller being a sadhu?
@@CausallyExplained the more people like you, the more meat and cheaper it becomes for a beef eater like me.
There is an ancient cookbook called "Paka Darpanam" which was written by Raja Nala (of the Nala Damyanti tale). You will find a lot of recipes in there that we use to this day and you will also find receipes that use meat and all kinds of meat: Horse, chicken, Goat even tortoise. Not only that you will also find what is probably the oldest recipe of the good old biryani in there.
Thanks for the info
They are all forged text. Even Manusmriti supports meat eating but They are all forged, Some by the Islamic Invaders others by the British.
I did not the name of this book but I knew about it. Thanks for sharing.
This recipe book was planted by Britishers as conspiracy against vegetarians brahmins and rajputs.
I have a read in a history book there says Aryan also eat beef , buffalo ,goat ,horse.
Vegetarianism was inspired by Jainism and its principle of non violence. Vedic/Indus Valley people used to consume fish and meat.
“यः पौरु॑षेयेण क्र॒विषा॑ सम॒ङ्क्ते यो अश्व्ये॑न प॒शुना॑ यातु॒धान॑: । यो अ॒घ्न्याया॒ भर॑ति क्षी॒रम॑ग्ने॒ तेषां॑ शी॒र्षाणि॒ हर॒सापि॑ वृश्च ॥”
“The Yātudhāna, who fills himself with the flesh of man, and he who fills himself with the flesh ofhorses or of other animals, and he who steals the milk of the cow-- cut off their heads with your flame.”-Rig Veda 10.87.16
Jai Maharishi Vyasa, Jai Agni Deva, Om Hare Krishna, Om Nammo Narayana.
Not only Jainism.
In TN, Aaseevagars also insisted to go veg.
😂😂
Yes
Im pretty sure the actual meaning is intended towards those that do not appreciate the materials they consume. By your logic using that verse, krishna is a demon too. @@inichanOkami
In some regions of Bengal and in Konkan regions of Maharashtra people offer seafood/meat to the Devi.
In fact even in my locality there was a local deity celebrated who was offered chicken, although it is not done anymore.
Why is it not done anymore?
@@kunwarsagarsingh I guess old folks used to do it. Now no one cares.
My dad told me this, so I haven't seen this happening by myself.
My dad saw this when he was very young.
People were offering meat to mahishasur not goddess but after some period some people forgot actual ritual and started offering it to goddess too
@@jaimahakal4924 I think I'd disagree. Goddess Kali's sect allows meat eating. Although I'm not sure which Devi Konkani people offer this, but for Bengali people I'm sure it is Kali.
And which people worship mahishasur?
@@hidum5779 we south Indian also offer meat.
Satyavati, the great-grandmother of the Pandavas and Kauravas, was the daughter of a fisherman. So, if there were fishermen, then they at least ate fish.
No. They used to fish for fishing sake.
Like Bhagwan Sri Rama used to hunt animals for hunting sake. Bhagwan Sri Rama during vanvasa only consumed few fruits and lived mostly on water.
@@OrichalcumHammerRama also wore animal skins. Does that mean he wasted the meat?
@@diplocolus1439 You will find the answers in the comment section of this video about modern Hindu idea on the diet of Bhagwan Sri Krishna and Bhagwan Sri Rama.
@@OrichalcumHammer No Shri Rama or Shri Laxman did not eat meat.
“न मांसं राघवो भुङ्क्ते न चापि मधुसेवते |
वन्यं सुविहितं नित्यं भक्तमश्नाति पञ्चमम् || ५-३६-४१ “
"Rama is not eating meat, nor indulging even in spirituous liquor. Everyday, in the evening, he is eating the food existing in the forest, well arranged for him."
Sloka 5-36-41.
Rama eating meat was mistaken because Idam in Sanskrit means roots and pulp, which is found in the forest. And since the context says that Rama avoids eating meat, he’s only eating the food thats already grown and aranged such as the plants.
Specifically in this verse.
“इदम मेध्यमिदम स्वादु निस्टप्तमिदमग्निना एवमास्ते स धर्मात्मा सिइतया सहा राघवह”||२-९६-२”
Rama, whose mind was devoted to righteousness stayed there with Seetha, saying; "This is fresh, this is savoury and roasted in the fire."
Sloka 2-96-2
Satyavati was born from the semen of uparichar vasu.... So she was not a fisherwoman by birth but of royal blood.
It is common sense
Not all the Indians were living like kings
Many were Hunters and gatherers
So it's duty of a Hunter to Hunt
just like its duty of a Farmer to grow crops
to Survive.
This whole Vegetarian food is hindu food narrative is vastly spread amongst the Indians because of the
Vishnu/ Krishna followers of Hinduism.
For example in many other sects of Hinduism Goats or as far as I know Ox are also sacrificed to Devis and such.
Sri Krishna killed a horse and a bull and Elephants. Sri Krishna is a warrior and lived and breathed as a warrior.
@@OrichalcumHammer No Shri Krishna was a vegetarian said not to eat meat in Shrimad Bhagavatam 11.5.14. U should use his words not someone else’s interpretation.
@@SDYUchgmywrld That is a good verse. Hence animals are generally killed by Butchers who is not trusted by animals. Pets like dogs cats and any animals that are too dependent and trusting of human should not be hurt. But herd animals like goats, sheep and even poultry/fish. are generally not tamed like pets.
Do you know human body needs DHA, Omega-3 fatty acids and B12 for proper development of brain and development of child in womb. Search on google the importance of them and which food has the most amount of it.
Also a Hunter has to hunt animals and it was a necessary for warriors to hunt animals.
वेदों में कहाँ है कि "भूतदया" मतलब सभी प्राणियों के प्रति प्रेम और स्नेह रखो
उनकी रक्षा करते रहो पालन करना सिखाया है
Krishna killed only demons which changed their looks with various animals like python look Aghasur etc
Here , in the comment section we can see india is divided in north,east,south,west.
We can see people are fighting over who will eat what.
*Hindus fighting Hindus*
Never saw such a hatred between other religions.
Beauty of our Secular Sanatanis
What you eat is your personal choice until that *what* becomes a *who*
Only North, Central and Western vegetarian Hindus are Sanatani, rest all other are folk and tribal beliefs followers similarities exists because these folk followers adopted the Sanatan Dharm principle
Yes ancient Indians ate meat, its 100% true. Things have been mentioned in our several holy books indirectly. The warrior clans and even others ate.
@@starship3812 iislamb is not a subcontinent rreligion so none of iindia business...
me commment likta hu tab tak tu daiper change kar le
Gladiator were mostly vegetarian
@@jelouche it's a misconception. Their diet also had meat but 70-80% were veg
@@XwwXr nope, they mostly eat fruit and barley. Because they were slaves for entertainment and fighting and they were not proper warrior. They used to get meat occasionally, once every 2-3 month. That accounted for nothing
Kashmiri Pandits offer raw mutton to Shiva on the night of Shivratri ...
However many stopped this practice after migration but this was very common practice in Kashmir and even today many families follow it.
And see the outcome of this practice. Kicked out of their own land. Butchered like they butchered animals.
@@islamvirodhi3089koi logic nhi hai iska...... Vo pahadi log hain vahan khane ko nhi hota itna...... Uttrakhand me bhi yhi hota hai....... Or shayad nepal Or Himachal me bhi hota hoga.
@@spidy9883 tujhe zyada pata hai meri UT ke bare mai? Sab kuch available hai aaj ke time me. Kashmir me Fruits & Dry fruits ki bharmar hoti he, Apples ghar ghar me lagte ahin
@@spidy9883 Exactly...depends on the region you are...in mountains there are not much vegetables so they had to eat
@@islamvirodhi3089 mai gadhwali hoon uttarakhand se
We should not get offended by this. Ancient Indians happily and casually ate meat of Deers, Peacocks, Lambs and all. Nothing was wrong. It was choice of people to be veg or non-veg.
Only the top-of-the-line people practicing Yog were Saatvik. These great people are mentioned everywhere in the texts but not he normal people who were like us casual.
Sanatan dharm has never dictated or forced anything. Everyone has their own choices in Sanatan Dharm.
But Santan Dharm also taught to express compassion to every living being.
@@harshverma3548 yes right.
@@harshverma3548 by that logic plants also are living being my friend. If all so called satvik really cared about living being first they should prevent deforrestation and make our earth more green. Sadly they only care about what other people put in their mouth just to satisfy their own superiority complex.
@@harshverma3548yes right just because you eat that doesn't or will make you a cruel guy vuce versa with guy who eat vegetables. Who you are what your personality is that's what defines you as a human being and that's what matters
Well said and that is the beauty of Santana Dharma.
Food in Upanishads aren't classified as Vegetarian or Non vegetarian, it's rather been classified as Satvik, Tamasic and Rajasik. Even some plant based foods can be Tamasic in nature, like the lots of Chemicals and Fertilizers...
@@peoplepeople9861 then why was there animal sacrifices in ancient India ? There are also some animal origin medicines in ayurveda science...
Yup, meat comes under tamsik. Alongwith some plants like onion.
In that country (India) they do not keep pigs and fowls, and do not sell live cattle; in the markets there are no butchers' shops and no dealers in intoxicating drink.
- Faxian, Chinese pilgrim to India (4th/5th century CE)
Vegetarianism in Indian subcontinent had its own highs and lows. We are in a low right now.
All spiritual figures like Vivekananda, Yogananda, and Prabhupada recommend being vegetarian. Although in extreme cases it's for everyone to eat meat to survive.
Don't expect everyone to be vegetarian. Many types of people probably will never accept vegetarianism for many social/professional/personal/karmic reasons.
Also, remember we are vegetarian for the sake of dharma and spiritual progress. So be sure to do some sadhna everyday.
@@noone_232 Kshatriyas also eat meat to fight hard for the sake of Dharma, eg. Pandavas (they performed Ashwamedha). But yeah it's still not clear whether Ashwamedha is related to sacrifice.
@@noone_232 Vivekananda wasn't vegetarian.
Faxian didn't visit the whole India
@@lautheimpaler4686 Vivekananda was for most of his life. He ate non-veg food only in 2 phases -
1. In his childhood, before he got to know that non-veg was not good.
2. In America, because veg food wasn't available there in that era and he had to stay in America to keep Hinduism alive.
Abhijit sir nothing to be sorry about stating the truth.
Meat consumption has been culturally accepted in bharatiya society from ages.
For vegetarians it seems they are always right but that's just narcissistic behaviour to tell I'm vegetarian and hence I'm right only
No its not. Pre-Vedic Hinduism allowed meat but not Hinduism after the age of Vyasa and Krishna. Technically speaking in modern times after the age of Lord Krishna and when Ved Vyasa wrote the Veadashastras, Mahabharata, and Mahapuranas. Lord Krishna and Lord Indra instructed devotees to not eat meat. Shrimad Bhagavatam 11.5.14 and Manusmriti 5.48 prohibits eating and animal slaughter of all meat irrespective of animal from land or sea. Eating meat is foreign to India brought by colonialists.
Eating meat is allowed as long its a permitted meat like non-beef or non-pork, but you have to purify yourself afterwards. Much like Kshatriyas do.
Enough with this Mleccha propaganda. India needs to have Hinduism as the state religion and a Hindu monarchy immediately.
@@SDYUchgmywrld what is the supreme authority, there are other vedas that mentions animal sacrifices. Tantra has mentions of lot of sacrifices, there's no supreme authority I'm Hinduism, stop imposing your beliefs on to others
@@TheB657they will cite the books and versions written by foreigners and their Stooges.
@@blackmamba9950 “यः पौरु॑षेयेण क्र॒विषा॑ सम॒ङ्क्ते यो अश्व्ये॑न प॒शुना॑ यातु॒धान॑: । यो अ॒घ्न्याया॒ भर॑ति क्षी॒रम॑ग्ने॒ तेषां॑ शी॒र्षाणि॒ हर॒सापि॑ वृश्च ॥”
- Rig Veda 10.87.16
““The Yātudhāna, who fills himself with the flesh of man, and he who fills himself with the flesh ofhorses or of other animals, and he who steals the milk of the cow-- cut off their heads with your flame.”
The Rig Veda says so and its the current authority. Previous Pre-Vedic Hinduism has mentioned rituals of meat, but after Vyasa and Krishna, Meat is prohibited.
Jai Shree Krishna, Jai Agni Deva.
Alternative sentence " I'm driven by my lust for meat so much that I'll kill animals everyday which is completely opposite to the ideal lifestyle given in vedas but i don't care, I don't follow anything written in those books neither do i have any logic to defend my point, but i want to call myself hindu so I'll just shout, don't force your ideas on me whenever someone tries to show me my reality ".
Humans got into agriculture only about 11000 years ago.
So, everyone including our ancestors were non vegetarians for a long long time.
So what.
The question is why now ??
See the jats of Haryana, majority of them are vegetarian, even our 2 times olympic medalist Shushil kumar was vegetarian.
I am from UP and my Village is a vegetarian village and have pehelwans on diet mainly having dairy.
We in North India have cows and buffaloes to provide ample amount of milk to make us fit both physically and mentally.
@@captain9842 the effect is not of just food but society also. In mediaeval times it was a war society. The areas around Delhi was in continuous war with Islamic invaders so they had to become agressive.
And some effect is of duty to, people have to something as party of duty towards the society
They drink milk and milk products. Do u know how cows are treated in a dairy farm??
@@rikishi555 Dairy farm ka dudh cities k log pite h gaav mein sb k ghr mein buffalo or cow hoti h 💀
@@ashusaharan5770 what do they drink when wrestlers become famous and start living in metropolitan cities?
jats are very racists and casteists
I totally disagree with the fact that vegetarian food is for "not causing unnecessary cruelty towards animals" (which may be a European / Christian philosophy but Sanatani) rather Sanatani vegetarian foods are non Tamasik foods. Its believed foods which creates "asura prabritti" or "animal like behavers" in human body should be avoided Those are called Tamasik foods or non-vegetarian foods includes all animal meats, fish, garlic, onion and few lentils(here to be noticed not all lentils are consider in prasad in many traditional temples because their Tamasik nature), milk in any form is considered as one of the best foods in Sanatan dharma.
poisonous items are offered to Mahadeva as Prasad but of course not eaten by devotees. In some yagnas , the animal is sacrficed to liberate the animal, afterwards the meat may have been distributed to poor etc but that was never really a part of the yagna. Ravana offered his own heads in austerity to Mahadeva.Hindus of all classes were for the most part vegetarians in antiquity. Until a few years ago, only musalmans would trade in meat stuffs.
Unfortunately, rascal indologists are eager to prove widespread meat eating in ancient india - India never really had the meat eating culture. Rajput houses etc started to emulate mughals to some extent in meat eating.
Tamasik foods are foods not encouraged but not prohibited. In terms of foods that are prohibited; “नाकृत्वा प्राणिनां हिंसां मांसमुत्पद्यते क्व चित् ।
न च प्राणिवधः स्वर्ग्यस्तस्मान् मांसं विवर्जयेत् ॥ ४८ ॥”
“Meat is never obtained without having encompassed the killing of animals; and the killing of animals does not lead to heaven; hence one should avoid meat.”-Manusmriti 5.48
Any plant based foods, mushrooms, vegetables, fruits, nuts, spices and dairy are all permitted. But Meat does not lead to Indra’s realm or the Gods/Goddesses realms, and you have to be reincarnated.
@@SDYUchgmywrld mushrooms are not plants
@@descendantofbharatbharatva7155 I didn’t say they were plants, I said plant based foods, mushrooms and dairy. Mushrooms are not plants, but instead Fungi much like Yeast in bread. Mushrooms are not flesh from sentient or conscious animals. Hence why Mushrooms are Vegan and Vegetarian.
@@darkprince2490 Copied from other comment ' ancient cookbook called "Paka Darpanam" which was written by Raja Nala (of the Nala Damyanti tale). You will find a lot of recipes in there that we use to this day and you will also find receipes that use meat and all kinds of meat: Horse, chicken, Goat even tortoise. Not only that you will also find what is probably the oldest recipe of the good old biryani in there'
Yes vedic people ate meat of horse, alligators, even calf. Even today ritualistically where buffalo has been sacrificed, what do they do after that sacrifice? They eat it
No that was during pre-Vedic Hinduism. Technically speaking in modern times after the age of Lord Krishna and when Ved Vyasa wrote the Vedashastras, Mahabharata, and Mahapuranas. Lord Krishna and Lord Indra instructed devotees to not eat meat. Shrimad Bhagavatam 11.5.14 and Manusmriti 5.48 prohibits eating and animal slaughter of all meat irrespective of animal from land or sea. Eating meat is foreign to India brought by colonialists.
You’re only allowed to eat non-beef and non-pork and have to purify yourself afterwards. Like Kshatriyas do.
Not true. There are lot of beef eating references in Vedas.Beef was very common
Mostly at that time only Asuras ate meat and flesh.
The Ramayana mentions the story of Shravana kumara who was mistakenly killed by the King Dasharath who shot a bow into the bushes hoping it to be a deer he was pursuing.
Now this is not a clear implication that the King was to eat that deer meat, but it can be considered as a possibility.
Exactly!!!What was Dashrath going to do after shooting the deer 🦌. He was going to take it to the royal kitchen where it would have been cooked well and eaten by everyone. Hare Ram.
Here, nobody is partaking in cannibalism like Dr.hannibal lecter but cooking the meat of animals killed in hunting and eating it for sustainance and protein intake. How could Shri. Ram, Lakshman and Sita Ma subsist on fruits and herbs for 14 years of their Vanawasa period. There are stories of Pandavas hunting in the forest and eating non veg food or else they just would not survive the harsh environment. The Rishis and holy people like Vashishtha and Valmiki received patronage from the royal family hence they must be following a vegetarian diet in their Ashramas. Otherwise the local populace and kings were very much hunting animals for their sustainance.
@@sachinkhale7513oh yeah and you were there to watch eh?
people used to hunt bears so that means they ate it? people hunted rhinos so they ate it?
what logic are you giving...
@@RandomBeluga1878 the answer to your question is given in the next post. Check it out. Swami Vivekanand has given a detailed view on meat eating by the Kshatriya clans.
@@RandomBeluga1878The reason you would hunt a bear and rhino are very different for hunting a deer. You may be deficient in micronutrients and zinc for cognitive function because of veg diet.
Several verses clearly tell us that when Sri Rāma was hungry, he would eat meat even during his exile. The proponents of vegetarianism tell us that these are bad translations or misinterpretations, but the original Sanskrit verses and several independent translations are available for everyone to read - these verses can’t be more clear about Rama eating meat. If anything, it’s actually the translations by the proponents of vegetarianism, that are misleadingly contrived to show Rama as a vegetarian.
Another thing that is clear from multiple verses is that Rama’s apparent tendency to avoid meat during the exile didn’t result from his belief in non-violence against the animals - it’s just something that he considered as part of an ascetic lifestyle. There are verses where he sacrifices animals for ceremonies and wears clothes made out of animal skin.
Ramayana is not unique in this sense: many respected Hindu texts, including the Vedas, condone meat-eating and animal sacrifice. The vegetarianism in the modern Hindu society is a virtue borrowed from Buddhism and Jainism, and a relic of the times when these two sects had gained prominence.
you have lost your mind😭😭😭😭making everything up because YOU like the taste of meat. Lowest you've fallen
Pi pu paa ,ho gaya?? Aab Jake murga pel ke aa ja
@@kartikeydubey9010 Verses implying that Rama ate meat:
Ayodhya Kanda 2-52-102
तौ तत्र हत्वा चतुरः महा मृगान् |
वराहम् ऋश्यम् पृषतम् महा रुरुम् |
आदाय मेध्यम् त्वरितम् बुभुक्षितौ|
वासाय काले ययतुर् वनः पतिम् || २-५२-१०२
Having hunted there four deer, namely Varaaha, Rishya, Prisata; and Mahaaruru (the four principal species of deer) and taking quickly the portions that were pure, being hungry as they were, Rama and Lakshmana reached a tree to take rest in the evening.
Alternative translation: Being famished, Rama, Lakshmana hunted and killed a boar, a Rishya animal (a white footed male antelope), a spotted deer and a great deer with black stripes and quickly partaking the pure meat reached a tree by the evening to spend the night.
Ayodhya Kanda 2-55-32/33
क्रोशमात्रम् ततो गत्वा भ्रातरौ रामलक्ष्मनौ || २-५५-३३
बहून्मेध्यान् मृगान् हत्वा चेरतुर्यमुनावने |
Thereafter having travelled only a couple of miles the two brothers Rama and Lakshmana killed many consecrated deer and ate in the river-forest of Yamuna.
Alternative translation: After travelling a distance of two miles further in the forest on the bank of Yamuna, those two brothers slew deers worthy for sacrifice for food and ate them.
Ayodhya Kanda 2-96-1/2
तां तथा दर्शयित्वा तु मैथिलीं गिरिनिम्नगाम् |
निषसाद गिरिप्रस्थे सीतां मांसेन चन्दयन् || २-९६-१
इदं मेध्यमिदं स्वादु निष्टप्तमिदमग्निना |
एवमास्ते स धर्मात्मा सीतया सह राघवः || २-९६-२
Having shown Mandakini River in that manner to Seetha, the daughter of Mithila, Rama set on the hill-side in order to gratify her appetite with a piece of flesh. Rama, whose mind was devoted to righteousness stayed there with Seetha, saying; “This meat is fresh, this is savoury and roasted in the fire.”
Alternative translation: Having shown to Sita the mountain-river Mandakini and gratifying her with meat, Rama sat on the mountain slope. Righteous Rama was seated in Sita’s company and remarked saying “This meat is sacred. This is savoury roasted in fire”.
Aranya Kanda 3-44-27
निहत्य पृषतम् च अन्यम् मांसम् आदाय राघवः |
त्वरमाणो जनस्थानम् ससार अभिमुखः तदा || ३-४४-२७
Raghava then on killing another spotted deer and on taking its flesh, he hurried himself towards Janasthaana.
Alternative translation: Then Rama killed another deer, got the meat and quickly departed to Janasthana.
Aranya Kanda 3-47-23
समाश्वस मुहूर्तम् तु शक्यम् वस्तुम् इह त्वया || ३-४७-२२
आगमिष्यति मे भर्ता वन्यम् आदाय पुष्कलम् |
रुरून् गोधान् वराहान् च हत्वा आदाय अमिषान् बहु || ३-४७-२३
[Sita to Ravana] “Be comfortable for a moment, here it is possible for you to make a sojourn, and soon my husband will be coming on taking plentiful forest produce, and on killing stags, mongooses, wild boars he fetches meat, aplenty.
Alternative translation: “Take rest for a while staying here. It is hoped that my husband will come and be getting from the forest plenty of meat of many kinds on killing deer, alligators and hogs.”
Aranya Kanda 3-73-13/17
न उद्विजन्ते नरान् दृष्ट्वा वधस्य अकोविदाः शुभाः || ३-७३-१३
घृत पिण्ड उपमान् स्थूलान् तान् द्विजान् भक्षयिष्यथः |
रोहितान् वक्र तुण्डान् च नल मीनान् च राघव || ३-७३-१४
पंपायाम् इषुभिः मत्स्यान् तत्र राम वरान् हतान् |
निस्त्वक्पक्षानयसतप्तानकृशान्नैककण्टकान् - यद्वा -
निः त्वक् पक्षान् अयस तप्तान् अकृशान् न अनेक कण्टकान् || ३-७३-१५
तव भक्त्या समायुक्तो लक्ष्मणः संप्रदास्यति |
भृशम् तान् खादतो मत्स्यान् पंपायाः पुष्प संचये || ३-७३-१६
पद्म गन्धि शिवम् वारि सुख शीतम् अनामयम् |
उद्धृत्य स तदा अक्लिष्टम् रूप्य स्फटिक सन्निभम् || ३-७३-१७
अथ पुष्कर पर्णेन लक्ष्मणः पाययिष्यति |
[Kabandha to Rama] “Thereabout birds will be unflustered on seeing humans, because they are artless to avoid hunting, because none kills them, and you may savour them because those birds will be best and burley, similar to ghee-gobs. “Oh, Rama in that Pampa Lake there are best fishes, red-carps, and blunt-snouted small porpoises, and a sort of sprats, which are neither scraggy, nor with many fish-bones. Lakshmana will reverentially offer them to you on skewering them with arrow, and on broiling them on iron rod of arrow after descaling and de-finning them. While you eat those fishes to satiety, Lakshmana will offer you the water of Pampa Lake, which will be in the bunches of flowers of that lake, and which will be lotus-scented, pellucid, comfortably cool, shiny like silver and crystal, uncontaminated and that way pristine, by lifting it up that water with lotus leaf, making that leaf a stoup-like basin… [3-73-16b, 17, 18a]
Alternative translation: “Not knowing what it is to be killed on those auspicious birds will not be scared of human beings. You both can kill those birds and eat those fat birds that are comparable to balls of butter-fat. Rama! There in the Pampa Lakshmana, by charging an arrow at the best of fish with a single bone, prawns and big fish crooked bodied fish, removing their skin and wings, piercing through skewers made of iron, cook and offer them with devotion. While you are delightedly eating fish Lakshmana can fetch you water in a lotus leaf from the Pampa tank. The waters of Pampa has a scent of lotuses being full of lotus, It is enjoyable, cool, healthy and crystal clearlike silver.”
@@descendantofbharatbharatva7155 i have got whole book of Geeta press Gorakhpur and none of this translation is present their and the context of this shlokas does not match with the translation you copy pasted here
@@kartikeydubey9010 Gitapress version have mistranslated these verses where the aspects of meat is being mentioned by trying to sanitizing these driven by the emotional sentiments of folks
Vegetarianism and non violence are Jain practices, not strictly Hindu ones.
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In Markandya Puran It is clearly written "A man can only eat meat if he is ready to give his flesh as he takes the the flesh of other then only he is allowed to eat it"
Pre-Vedic Hinduism allowed meat but not Hinduism after the age of Vyasa and Krishna. Technically speaking in modern times after the age of Lord Krishna and when Ved Vyasa wrote the Veadashastras, Mahabharata, and Mahapuranas. Lord Krishna and Lord Indra instructed devotees to not eat meat. Shrimad Bhagavatam 11.5.14 and Manusmriti 5.48 prohibits eating and animal slaughter of all meat irrespective of animal from land or sea. Eating meat is foreign to India for most Indians and brought by colonialists.
Eating meat is allowed as long its a permitted meat like non-beef or non-pork, but you have to purify yourself afterwards. Much like Kshatriyas do.
Enough with this Mleccha talk. We need Lord Vishnu to come as Kalki to get rid of the Mlecchas.
@@SDYUchgmywrldpork is allowed not beef. Arjun killed a boar while hunting and then Kirat came out as Lord Shiva.
वेदों में कहाँ है कि "भूतदया" मतलब सभी प्राणियों के प्रति प्रेम और स्नेह रखो
उनकी रक्षा करते रहो पालन करना सिखाया है
@@BengaliManfromWB No That was attempted but Lord Krishna stopped and ordered the Pandavas to stop. (Pandavas are people not gods). Maharishi Vyasa, Lord Krishna, Lord Agni and Lord Indra prohibit and punish eating meat.
“ये त्वनेवंविदोऽसन्त: स्तब्धा: सदभिमानिन: ।
पशून् द्रुह्यन्ति विश्रब्धा: प्रेत्य खादन्ति ते च तान् ॥ १४ ॥”
“Those sinful persons who are ignorant of actual religious principles, yet consider themselves to be completely pious, without compunction commit violence against innocent animals who are fully trusting in them. In their next lives, such sinful persons will be eaten by the same creatures they have killed in this world.”
- SB 11.5.14
“यः पौरु॑षेयेण क्र॒विषा॑ सम॒ङ्क्ते यो अश्व्ये॑न प॒शुना॑ यातु॒धान॑: । यो अ॒घ्न्याया॒ भर॑ति क्षी॒रम॑ग्ने॒ तेषां॑ शी॒र्षाणि॒ हर॒सापि॑ वृश्च ॥”
“The Yātudhāna, who fills himself with the flesh of man, and he who fills himself with the flesh ofhorses or of other animals, and he who steals the milk of the cow-- cut off their heads with your flame.” - Rig Veda 10.87.16
“नाकृत्वा प्राणिनां हिंसां मांसमुत्पद्यते क्व चित् ।
न च प्राणिवधः स्वर्ग्यस्तस्मान् मांसं विवर्जयेत् ॥ ४८ ॥”
“Meat is never obtained without having encompassed the killing of animals; and the killing of animals does not lead to heaven; hence one should avoid meat.” - Manusmriti 5.48.
India needs the Manusmriti as the law of the land again. The oppression Brahmins face is disheartening.
@@SDYUchgmywrld vedic hinduism coz read yajurved there r so many sacrifices of animal
Non voilent life style is more from Upanishads and Bhagavad gita. By the time Upanishads were written, Vedic Hinduism had evolved and probably many people realized the influence and good effects of diet, based on Lifestyle....
Upanishads are excellent books to read and enrich the knowledge...
We don't have any concept or halal or haram and hindu gods didn't put restriction on foods.A ksatrya have to eat rajashik foods his duty is to fight and slice the enemy into several pieces .We don't like the non violent coward for security we need Raja chandragupta,lalitaditya like ksatrya .And Upanishad talk about humanity and the supreme Brahman the Atman concept
@@questionnowho, as per vedas, the food was classified as Satvik, Rajasik and Tamasik. But due to the influence of Upanishads, more people moved towards Satvik, because upanishads had more spiritual lessons. Although nothing was forced upon Hindus, it was out of choice.
@@questionnowho well then why didnt they eat humans instead of animals i also love humans to eat
The Gita isn't advocating absolute non violence. It states unless someone attacks you don't initiate conflict.
@@project77977kuru disease says hi. Also cannibalism only existed before cremation and burial as a means to dispose of bodies.
Yes, I once read it in a text that it was not compulsory for everyone to eat vegetarian food. Just like any other tool, it was recommended to be used according to the necessity.
Vegetarian food was recommended for Brahmins who had to do a lot of intellectual work, such as memorizing shlokas and mantras, while Kshatriyas were recommended spicy food as it increases aggressiveness (allegedly) and shudras were allowed to eat meat as it helps to do hard physical work.
It was a very non-ideological, non-emotional, pragmatic outlook.
Buddhism and Jainism associated meat with morality and created confusion. These two religions create an extremely pacifist society and eventually lead to its political and military decline.
There is no recommendation for any Varna mentioned anywhere. Spices don't increase rajas. Red and green chillis do. You don't cook, do u?
Now, if ever meat was eaten it was offered to the goddess first and just so u know red chillis and green chillis wasn't really in our cuisine. Red chillis came due to invaders. Green chilli is debatable. However sattvik food was eaten in gurukuls and since all 3 upper classes ate sattvik during childhood and teenage, they did so for the rest of their life. Meat eating was allowed in emergency conditions but cow was still not to be killed.
Out of all pandavas, Bheem was the only meat eater. He needed it but m sure he wasn't eating the sinful halal KFC meat. Actually halal is against Vedic principles of meat eating.
The total irony is that creatine and B12 in meat support mental health and cognitive function. The DHA from the fish actually increases the IQ of a new born if the mom ate it, and a high carb diet which is vegetarian diet causes brain fog and lethargy, so the real tamasic food is a vegetarian diet. Plus sattvic diet mentioned in the veda was: It should be chewy, fatty and greasy. What fits the perfect description of this? Meat does, nothing else fits this description as good as a cooked meat does.
@@keshavrao212 However the pressure cooker is meant for hard protein, not for cooking soft protein like lentils which is reducing protein in lentils after being cooked. Look at the amount of protein rajma provides before being pressure cooked as compared to its end product. Indian women back then were mostly vegetarian along with men, cooked food in claypots, copper or silver or gold, which helps in retaining nutrients especially protein not killing it.
However, Ramakrishna paramhansa also ate fish yet died a skeleton with 0 body muscle mass.
You seriously need to work hard on logical reasoning and your character / personality development. Being so bitter about things u don't even understand, you will acquire negative karma for sure and will just be a burden for people around you. Thank God I don't know u in real life. I am protected 🧿🧿🧿
Oh my God! So much hatred for vegetarianism especially sattvik diet. 🧿🧿🧿🧿
@@whitelotus2960 There are alot of instances where people who ate mat died muscleless, but that is not mean that it is not a good source. Well whatever protein rajma contains, it does not have the same bioavailability and same amino acid profile required for humans, it lacks leucine and other essential amino acids.
Thank goodness someone has the guts to lay the facts
There are multiple references to eating Deer and poultry. Certainly meat eating.
IMO, the start of a vegetarian diet in India is a function of the following.
1) abundance of agricultural produce.
2) Ashokan edict, post Kalinga.
Yup you got it right
For modern world , being Vegetarian is not just left as an option ,it has become a necessity to save our Planet.😢
Not really
I stopped eating meat from 40 days it's hard but I am getting over
Modern*
Are you a fool? Being vegetarian doesn't help anything, you're killing every insect, animal or bird which comes to the field when you grow vegetables, secondly you're affecting the ecosystem and foodchain drastically. Thereby, ruining everything, this analogy is similar to using battery electric vehicles(not hydrogen evs)
Vegan or Vegetarian diet can be good for health but it’s not gonna save the planet
It is not necessary to eat veg to be a true Hindu ! Nowadays a true Hindu is a person who is fighting for the Dharma.
Jay Sanatan 🕉️🙏🏻
Satvic food (veg) for learning and scholarly work, Rajasic food (non-veg) for warrior and labar work. Tamasic food (old or processed) for survival when food is scarce.
Last meal of bhuddh is controversial some say it was poisoned musroom and some who want to spread false rumors say that it was pork
So you decided that one group is speaking the truth and the other group is not, based on what ?
@@lautheimpaler4686 sir bhuddh said that meat is for sub humans, humans beings shouldn't eat it ; google it
@@madhavgupta1558 KONSE CHUTIYE CHAMAR NEECHE JAAT KE PAIDAISH HO TUM? BUDDHA NEVER SAID THAT AND ITS PERMITTED TO EAT MEAT YOU ABSOLUTE IMBECILE
It doesnt matter if we ate meat or not, what matters is if we choose to be humane or cruel henceforth. I hope we free the world from cruelty as much as possible.
Halaal is very humane 😉
@sankalpverma618 nothing is more humane than letting a life live
@@sankalpverma618halaal you and feed the chickens
@thrissurachellieus3143 yes we should to cultured plan based food, basically grow plants in a lab without having to kill it
@@thrissurachellieus3143 what?
In Himachal And Some Other Hill States Some Deities Are From Asur Yoni That's Why In Many Temples Plays Sacrificial Rituals..!! 🔥🙏🏻🕉️
Plz, explain more on deities from asur yoni!!!!
Explain in detail bro what is asur yoni
Yeah, badla ji, thora vistar mie btae!
@@jaysawant3097ghatotkach, maa hidimba, barbarik or locally known as kamru naag in himachal, etc.
Yes true
Most of our revered characters had bow and arrow as weapon . Valmiki was a hunter and yet he cursed another hunter who killed a bird for feeding his family. This conflict was there thousands of years back.
But he cursed after he became sant after he did dhyan on Shri Ram naam for 1 yug atleast...he got enlightenment, then when he saw another hunter he cursed out of sympathy...change of consciousness
A recent photograph of some Hindu protesters demanding a ban on non-vegetarian food in restaurants and government canteens in India made me sit up and take notice. I believe that these protesters are ignorant of what their religion preaches. They are simply going against their own religious scriptures.
Most of the world religions sanctify offering of animals in sacrifice including Hinduism. Hindu scriptures are witnesses to such sacrifices and killings of animals for consumption. References of such commands are replete in Hindu scriptures like Manusmriti, Vedas, Upanishads, Brahmins, Grihsutras, Dharmasutras and others.
This column would not suffice for quoting all such references but a few from different scriptures are imperative to bring home the point and clear the misconceptions:
Manusmriti (Chapter 5 / Verse 30) says, “It is not sinful to eat meat of eatable animals, for Brahma has created both the eaters and the eatables.”
Manusmriti (5 / 35) states: When a man who is properly engaged in a ritual does not eat meat, after his death he will become a sacrificial animal during twenty-one rebirths.
Maharishi Yagyavalkya says in Shatpath Brahmin (3/1/2/21) that, “I eat beef because it is very soft and delicious.”
Apastamb Grihsutram (1/3/10) says, “The cow should be slaughtered on the arrival of a guest, on the occasion of ‘Shraddha’ of ancestors and on the occasion of a marriage.”
Rigveda (10/85/13) declares, “On the occasion of a girl’s marriage oxen and cows are slaughtered.”
Rigveda (6/17/1) states that “Indra used to eat the meat of cow, calf, horse and buffalo.”
Vashistha Dharmasutra (11/34) writes, “If a Brahmin refuses to eat the meat offered to him on the occasion of ‘Shraddha’ or worship, he goes to hell.”
Also, comments of some great scholars of Hinduism are also worth noting:
· Hinduism’s greatest propagator Swami Vivekanand said thus: “You will be surprised to know that according to ancient Hindu rites and rituals, a man cannot be a good Hindu who does not eat beef”. (The Complete Works of Swami Vivekanand, vol.3, p. 536).
· Mukandilal writes in his book ‘Cow Slaughter - Horns of a Dilemma’, page 18: “In ancient India, cow-slaughter was considered auspicious on the occasions of some ceremonies. Bride and groom used to sit on the hide of a red ox in front of the ‘Vedi’ (alter).”
· A renowned scholar of scriptures Dr. Pandurang Vaman Kane says, “Bajsancyi Samhita sanctifies beef-eating because of its purity”. (Dharmashastra Vichar Marathi, page 180)
· Adi Shankaracharya’ commentary on Brihdaranyakopanishad 6/4/18 says : ‘Odan’ (rice) mixed with meat is called ‘Mansodan’. On being asked whose meat it should be, he answers ‘Uksha’. ‘Uksha’ is used for an ox, which is capable to produce semen.
· The book ‘The History and Culture of the Indian People’, published by Bhartiya Vidya Bhawan, Bombay and edited by renowned historian R.C.Majumdar (Vol.2, page 578) says: “this is said in the Mahabharat that King Rantidev used to kill two thousand other animals in addition to two thousand cows daily in order to give their meat in charity”.
It seems a great majority of the followers of Hinduism are not in contact with their religious scriptures thus falling an easy prey to the fascist forces like the Sangh Parivar who have nothing to offer to the Indian society save hatred. And all Indians know where these hatred-mongers are taking India to? 😊😊
Diet was according to your profession. A teacher or sage will have a satvik diet but people of warrior class needed meat. Infact the meat diet is way better than the vegetarian. The vegan diet does more damage to earth than a non vegetarian diet. Idk why hindu dharma considered even wonderful vegetables like onion and garlic as tamasik despite them having very amazing qualities and being so good for the body.
Only yogis and people following spiritual life used to be vegetarian
You Food got nothing to do with your Nature .... Search top ten State with highest crime in india and top ten vegetarian State ... You will find many state making in to the both list ... . For examples. Rajasthan is most vegetarian State and Rajasthan have the highest rape case in 2021 and 2024 going to be same seeing the rape cases with in four months there .... This whole thing of satwik bhojan is scam Japan's is most civilized and safe country today they also they have a huge number of non-vegetarian but we know there crimes in ww2 ... it shows your nature got nothing to do with your food habit ..you are what you are ...
वेदों में कहाँ है कि भूतदया मतलब सभी प्राणियों के प्रति प्रेम और स्नेह रखो
उनकी रक्षा करते रहो पालन करना सिखाया है
This is totally correct and that is what logically think will give you
@@TheB657verses contain meat eating
@@justicebydeathnote True.
@@TheB657 Bruh Vedàs only suggested not to consume "Pork" as it was no good for us. But on the other hand, mentioned eating beef
@@OG_d0wnFall Hindus ate beef, horse, buffaloes, sheep, goats, and several species of birds that were offered as sacrifice. Cow became holy post Buddhism and mainly the Parshuram identity created by brahmins.
@@justicebydeathnote nah!
not only vedic times, but even today if u go to uzbekistan, kazakstan, kyrgiztan, tajikistan you can literally buy it on streets as street food in variousforms.
just watch one of those travel vlogs and u will see horse biryani being sold in the middle of an open market by the road side in a 10BHK size pit-pan.
i hope we all know the ancient India did have some regions / extensions from these countries.
The vaishnavites refrain, the shivaites are divided and the shakts ate but with restraint. You need a real expert to answer these questions.
these are puranic sects
these weren't the sects during vedic times
3000 years ago, you did not go to the market anywhere in Bharat to get subjis. Outside of large village areas where there might have been some local gardens, you lived in the countryside. You picked from the fields, marshes, and waterways anything that you could eat, and you fished and hunted for your main nutrition. In some places in ancient Bharat, picking eatables from trees and fields was nearly impossible, so hunting became your main food source. If you lived in the forest in North Bharat in the winter, you ate almost exclusively meat, as there was nothing else. Eating fish and meat had nothing to do with religion in ancient times. It had everything to do with if you were going to live or die from malnutrition and starvation.
I got reminded of one more example that when raja Dushyant forgot about Shakuntala then it was by a fisherman that he got back his ring when he was cutting up a fish. This made him remember her and being her and his child raja Bharat. So it means people at that time used to eat meat
All ancient kings went for "Mrigaya" deer hunt and obviously they ate deer meat.
I know right, it is super obvious.
There are instances of kshatriyas going on hunts time and again in Mahabharata and Ramayana. Yet we have people saying it never happened and it was just target practice.
We in south India, except Brahmin, Vishya all other Hindu eat meat !
It was never mentioned in any script that Hindus shouldn't eat meat !
Lord Rama ate meat, Lord seethani ate meat, Lord seetha offered rice and meat to river Ganga !
All North Indians never know the vedas n Puranas they simply cry on Muslims and hence they eat meat we shouldn't eat meat !
Poor guys and political victims
We Assamese people offer fish during death rituals. Some Assamese tribes like Mishings and Kacharis offer pork. Dont alienate North Eastern people on the basis of our food habits.
We’ve heard kings going into the jungle and playing “kill the deer” sort of exercise or vacation. What did they do after killing the deer ? Most possibly cooked and ate in the jungle and returned to the palace with deer skin and head.
Hello viewers and Abhijit, I am a strict vegetarian and devotee of Lord Shiva. When I view the cruelty and the very thought of slaughtering animals sends shivers down my spine and tears flow unconsciously. That has been my psyche and DNA. But when it comes to Hindutva, I am Kshatriya and a strong proponent of Hindus getting armed and trained in Martial arts to defend themselves- I detest the Gandhian approach. When I read about some practices in Rig Veda time, as Abijit Chavda pointed out and even Abhijit Iyer in Pguru mentions, the Ashweamedha yagna was not just sacrificing the Horse, it also involved other obnoxious rituals tantamounting to bestiality. To this day I could not understand the yawning intellectual gap between Rig Vedic rituals and Upanishads- which is sublime and esoteric. Abhijit Iyer Mitra tells there is unequivocal evidence to show that people ate beef during the Vedic period. Being a Tamil Iyer Brahmin myself it was hard for me to stomach this. But I cannot turn a blind eye to facts. On the other hand, the Tantric expert Rajarshi Nandy who came on the Beerbiceps podcast- Ranveer shows tells those who ate Beef cease to be Hindu. Could someone enlighten me on this paradox?
Whatever may have happened in the past. As per the current cultural scenario. Beef is where we draw the line between Indic civilizational values and outsiders. It is accepted by every sect
There is ample evidence to show that meat was common at the same time it was based on varna i.e. kind of profession you were in...at the same time there is proof at least from times of Alexander not just hindus many ancient people didnt eat cattle meat....as there is a story which states when h went to a place for war and his soldiers killed cattle to eat there was floods as it was considered wrong to eat cattle meat there...though must say buffalo meat as beef is not considered wrong among hindu kali worshipers of India and mostly Nepal..so dont equate cow and buffalo together....cow meat has been mostly banned among hindus since ancient times but not buffalo
@@Abhisheknanavare this is patently false
Cow was cattle as most houses have cows at home and Hindus respected cows at that time because it gives them milk and they can survive in any bad condition by drinking milk and water so they made cow parteek of God and started to do Pooja of them. I might not be fully correct
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@@TheB657brother i also think this is true ,
Satyavati ko jante ho Mahabharat ke Raja shantanu ke wife , wo fisherman family se thi , mtlb uss samay machli khate the log ,
Raja dashratha ne shikar krte waqt ek ladke ko maar Diya tha , wo naam bhul Gaya mai , aur Mahabharat mai hi pandavo ne bhi meat khaya tha jab wo agyaatwas mai the 12 saal , bhot evidences h
We also sacrifice goat 🐐🐐🐐 and after that we eat
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Im telling you some butthurt European is going to tell you that you are horrible for not eating meat.😂Unlike the vegans they have in Europe, you are peaceful❤.
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Chandragupta used to eat peacock meat perhaps.
Marathas ate meat from long time I can say . Coz I am a MARATHA
Well I am am myself odia you know odiya Bengali Marathi whole south Indians are pure non vegetarians in nature the whole vegetarianism concept is purely of Northern plains of India around haryana Punjab Gujarat rajasthan and up
@@suvendukumarnath7941yes northern planes.....not hilly areas....... Himachal , jammu kashmir, uttarakhand, nepal also eat meat..... Because of lack of crops in hilly area...... They also do animal sacrifice.
@@spidy9883 that's why I wrote plains of northern India not simply north india
Archeological investigations recently found cooking pots where they found remnants of red meat like pork and beef. So it's safe to say that they were near eaters for sure.
Could you also do a piece on details of rise of vegetarianism in the subcontinent? According to my understanding it became popular when Buddhism started becoming popular.
Can you cite the locations and dates when these were supposedly found? Also, even if true, it doesn't mean they were all meat eaters. That's like future archaeologists finding the kitchen of a cannibal and then proclaiming that all of us living now were cannibals.
@@Kids11111source: "trust me bro"
yes yes yes, vedic aryas were hardcore meat eaters. Buddhims influnced hinduism ruined it for us.
@@Kids11111 his source : deepak kallal
I propose that we as a people consumed meat we were physically and intellectually stronger. I suspect that we were at the top of the world then. I suspect that a lot of us became vegetarian because we now had the time and the means to be caring and compassionate just like at present where many in the western world is becoming vegan and vegetarian.
The tiger eats meat, can only run for a short distance. The horse and bull eat vege and move long distances. For muscular strength is the mighty elephant.
Meat was given to soldiers in India, those days to bring the fierceness to fight not strength.
Really insightful, humans are omnivores and meat is just nutrition
@@yashdwivedi8440 Cannibalism is nutrition too. Just because something is nutritious doesn't make it justified in and itself.
@@yashdwivedi8440but killing animals for flesh...i understand why our ancestors did it but now it's not needed i feel
you are right 210%
In studying ayurveda I recently came upon the translated texts of the Caraka Samhita which talks about when and what meats to eat! Was surprised to find that!
Technically speaking in modern times after the age of Lord Krishna and when Ved Vyasa wrote the Veadashastras, Mahabharata, and Mahapuranas. Lord Krishna and Lord Indra instructed devotees to not eat meat. Shrimad Bhagavatam 11.5.14 and Manusmriti 5.48 prohibits eating and animal slaughter of all meat irrespective of animal from land or sea. So by definition when Vyasa was alive the common rule in India was to avoid meat. Eating meat is foreign to India brought by colonialists.
Hinduism does allow eating meat if its from a non-prohibited animal such as any animal that isn’t a cattle or pork, but you have to purify yourself afterwards. Much like Kshatriyas.
Jai Shree Krishna, Jai Indra Devarajya.
You are wrong about buddha,, he ate sukaramaddava . In pali minsh means meat not maddava. Sukaramaddava is a type of mushroom which was poisonous
It depends on who you trust, if you read the mimansa and British translations then yes our ancestors ate meat but if you read the Arya Samaj or Vedantic translations then NO THEY DIDN'T EAT MEAT.
Medha can also means sacrifice and Medha also means intelligence(like in hindi we say, "Ye bahut Medhavi student hai").
According to Nirukta Ashva also has many meanings.
Edit: Okay so a lot of people think that I am saying our ancestors were vegetarians, I'm not.
Infact I personally believe atleast the warrior class 100% ate meat and there is nothing wrong about it, I just pointed two different perspectives.
Stop defending it bro, tribals of India were the original inhabitants and they ate meat and worshipped gods. Yes, brahmins didn't consume it. But was common for other people too, there was no such imposition back then. But today, fake brahmins can't even accept the fact that everybody's not vegan.
It's not about what Arya samaj says or Colonial historian says. Ancient India always had meat in its diet (not on daily basis though). Swami Vivekananda explicitly stated in his writings that meat was consumed in Vedic India. The time period of Vedic India as given by present day historians is wrong. The climatic conditions of Vedic period was cold as explicitly mentioned in Rig Ved. So, meat consumption was common
Think for a moment, your ancestors were hunter-gatherers. Would they really choose to be vegetarians when the majority of plants were not tasted in the new land of Arya Varta, and meat was a familiar diet?
Broo arya samaj was a disastrous organisation if you think they wont"mistranslate" texts then you are wrong arya samaj clearly have there propoganda
Pre-Vedic Hinduism allowed meat but not Hinduism after the age of Vyasa and Krishna. Technically speaking in modern times after the age of Lord Krishna and when Ved Vyasa wrote the Veadashastras, Mahabharata, and Mahapuranas. Lord Krishna and Lord Indra instructed devotees to not eat meat. Shrimad Bhagavatam 11.5.14 and Manusmriti 5.48 prohibits eating and animal slaughter of all meat irrespective of animal from land or sea. Eating meat is foreign to India brought by colonialists.
Eating meat is allowed as long its a permitted meat like non-beef or non-pork, but you have to purify yourself afterwards. Much like Kshatriyas do.
Enough with this Mleccha talk. We need Lord Vishnu to come as Kalki to get rid of the Mlecchas.
Doesn't matter if our ancestors ate it or not. However today it's need of hour n to save mother Earth we will need to turn to vegetarian.
Animal husbandry is one of major factor contributing to green house effects
If the whole world went vegetarian, the greenhouse gas emissions would shoot up multiple hundreds of percentage
Animal bones have been recovered and analyzed from all excavated Harappan sites, going back to 7500 BCE. Similar remains are also found at the Mesolithic sites of other cultures in north western and central India which were inhabited during the same time period. Mesolithic populations were hunter gatherers who consumed meat and berries while the Harappans had already mastered animal husbandry as well as farming millets, legumes and probably vegetables. But it is possible that by the later Vedic period not all ancient Indians were meat eaters, just as today. More importantly, they respected Nature even when they took from her what they needed.
As for the Ashvamedha yagna, there is another school of thought about it which says that the horse was later on set free into the forest by the victorious King after the coronation ceremony, which does actually seem more rational considering the stallion was originally made to run free across neighboring kingdoms as a symbol of the King's growing power.
The horse was a very important and symbolic animal . Doesn't make sense to let it free after the yagna .
Horse ran free and then later sacrificed.
@@ShubhamKumar-dk5iq using the same logic why kill it? Still, we don't know for sure except that during the Vedanta (later Vedic period) this yagna was done purely as a symbolic, meaning employing only mantras in the form of an Ashvamedha yagna.
@@indianhistoryarchaeology vedantic was definitely non violent...Vedic was not
@@ShubhamKumar-dk5iq hhinduism is a dynamic rreligion . it doesnot have codified book .u urself can add some thing some idea to hhindu philosophy it allow u to do that if ur idea take the taste of time then u will be next vasishta, or vishvamitra or valmiki or buddha or jain or shankarcharya or vivekanand....
Appreciate your honesty :)
Jai Shri Rama or Shri Laxman did not eat meat.
“न मांसं राघवो भुङ्क्ते न चापि मधुसेवते |
वन्यं सुविहितं नित्यं भक्तमश्नाति पञ्चमम् || ५-३६-४१ “
"Rama is not eating meat, nor indulging even in spirituous liquor. Everyday, in the evening, he is eating the food existing in the forest, well arranged for him."
Sloka 5-36-41.
Rama eating meat was mistaken because Idam in Sanskrit also means roots and pulp, which is found in the forest. And since the context says that Rama avoids eating meat, he’s only eating the food thats already grown and aranged such as the plants.
Specifically in this verse.
“इदम मेध्यमिदम स्वादु निस्टप्तमिदमग्निना एवमास्ते स धर्मात्मा सिइतया सहा राघवह”||२-९६-२”
Rama, whose mind was devoted to righteousness stayed there with Seetha, saying; "This is fresh, this is savoury and roasted in the fire."
Sloka 2-96-2
It was already said that Idam means Roots and Pulp in this context. And the verses where it specifies Rama didn’t eat Meat.
Rama did hunt but not eat, it only refers to feeding a Demon called Kabandha and offering a Demon Deer to the river goddess (as an offering not food), but neither deity ate meat. Jai Shree Rama.
Jaya Siya Rama
@@captain9842 Shri Rama killed the Deer because its a Demon? And its obvious Demons are bad. I don’t think anyone has ever said that Ravana was eaten by someone else or something.
@@captain9842 Shri Rama survived by eating pulp and roots. Jungles have flora as well. Shri Rama is a Hindu god, not a human. He does not have your weird Non-Hindu flawed desires. He only hunted to practiced his weapon skills.
@@captain9842 Then you don’t actually believe in the Ramayanam, or Shri Rama as a god and therefore you’re an Atheist just like Communist China. Maricha is an actual Rakshasa in the Ramayanam as a deer. If you want to be anti-Hindu go ahead, but I’m not stopping you.
@@captain9842 Because it wasn’t a deer it was a Rakshasa in the form of a Deer. Maricha is a Rakshasa in the Ramayanam. Its actually well known to real Hindus who believe in the Ramayanam. I respect that you’re an Atheist, but please respect the beliefs of Hindus.
LORD BUDDHA'S LAST MEAL IS NOT CONFIRM WHETHER IT'S MEAT OR POISENOUS MUSHROOM
i was reading rigveda and there i came across the "ashv sukt". its all about sacrificing horse, cooking its flesh and hoping that cooked flesh does not fall on earth and eaten by gods through "havis".
i have also read in vayu puran that at the time of prajapati yajna, rudra destroyed the yajna and cut off 1 of the 5 heads of prajapati. so, a lamb was sacrificed and its head was used as replacement for 5th head of prajapati so that prajapati could finish the yajna.
i also read in shatpath brahman, once lord agni got scared and he was hiding in a lake, but the fish of the lake told his tearabouts. thus lord agni cursed fish to be regularly hunted and used as the food by human.
i also read in either atharv-veda or some brahman text, that lord agni is given sacrifice of 8 rams.
there are many more instences of animal sacrifice. i believe, that prohibition of animal sacrifice is the remanent of Buddhism.
@@Rakshita442 but jainism was not too influential. at max they might have 20 or 30% population following it. while budhism at its peak was almost 90 to 95% indian popu.
@@animeismydrug3011 Jain's were more of the most clever people that time. In majority islamic and pre era they used the best game. In pre islamic era they traded and called themselves friend of Hindus in islamic era they distanced themselves from Hindus and called themselves monotheist and were the most rich people in islamic time were Jain merchants they played the game better than any religion people. They were the major financer of brutal islamic invaders like arungzeb. But at the same time Jain acted like saint and called themselves peaceful samaj. Buddhist were not double standard they were pure but due the rise of Buddhism the kshtariyaness of major kings became extinct at the same time Arab invasion grew in south asia. At last Buddhism couldn't gain tight hold in many kingdom and became minority in the country of Nepal and India where all of it started
If a person ate meat in Vedic era , it doesn't means that it is allowed in veds. Don't manipulate 👎
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I am Nepali and my mountain ancestors are said to be meat eaters simply because they had to survive.
How did Ram and Lakshman survive in exile if they didn't eat meat? They used to go out hunting in the forest no?
@@TheB657 Thanks for info
Thanks for sharing your knowledge and yes we shouldn't criticize anyone for stating facts.
All I know is that killing anyone unnecessarily is wrong and a sin.
जय श्री राम
Bhai bas Gandhiji ne bhi aisa hi kuch soch ke fuckup kiya tha.
@@stoic007 Gandhiji never said unnecessarily, he always said killing is a sinful act.
There's no sin in our Dharma, so don't spread Western Propoganda over here
Sanatan Dharma isn't an Abrahamic religion. So there is no point in polluting it with such stupid philosophies
@@alphamaydus so kill animals unnecessarily if it is a pleasant thing to do for you.
By the way I'm not a Gandhian but Pro BJP And Sanatani.
जय श्री राम
Be kind to every Animal
Feed them & Put a bucket of Water outside your House.
Be #Vegan 🙏🌱
Humans have always been omnivorous.
Dasaratha went deer hunting in the Kuprata period means eating deer meat was common at that time and in the Drapara period Subhadra, sister of Krishna and Arjuna of the Mahabharata went hunting deer together.
You could make entire long video for this topic we would love to watch
Eventhough i found it after 1 year its worthy..... People are fighting and considering meat eaters as adharmis with no value. But they dont know how the anscestors survived.
Can you tell about Argentavis , according to the time period this exists while the ramayana events . Is Jadayu is an Argentavis ??
🙏Jai Shri Ram 🚩🙏
0:04 lol didn't expect this type of opening/intro from u sir 😂❤
Which side were the Indians are in WW2?
Glad to hear that sir had said that our ancestors did have eaten meat
Are you mllecha who rejects sanatan dharma . ? By eating meat you are risking your future births
Thank you abhijit sir🙏
Non violence, Is gandhi thing. and believe me he did so bcz we cannot fight rich british arm force! other then that with time and requirements norms has changed.
in Budha kundli there is placement of stars and planets where he can create new religion and he did so! fate or unfinished business.
and mostly we are tropical people geosocioeconobiological and out of tatse people do eat whatever they like to or have to eat.
sir you are doing good job! ❤❤
There has been growing demand for meat for consumption because of growing Islamisation, Christianisation and simultaneous decline in the Sanatan Dharam because of derasinated Hindus.
I also recall a reference to meat in Shrimad Bhagwatam where it is advised not to eat meat before a 7 day Pooja in order to avoid going to attend nature's call very often. That was exact reference. It had no reference to Pooja.
So, I agree with Abhijit that let's not get emotional about it. We were very diverse in our culture and we are still very diverse.
Jai Hind.
Kings used to hunt deers , what do you think they used to do with those? I think brahmanas were vegetarian not strictly though. Before Buddhism flourished in India more people were probably meat eaters.
Correct
No Buddhism is the reason why Meat is common. Buddhist nations are non-veg.
“यः पौरु॑षेयेण क्र॒विषा॑ सम॒ङ्क्ते यो अश्व्ये॑न प॒शुना॑ यातु॒धान॑: । यो अ॒घ्न्याया॒ भर॑ति क्षी॒रम॑ग्ने॒ तेषां॑ शी॒र्षाणि॒ हर॒सापि॑ वृश्च ॥”
- Rig Veda 10.87.16
“The Yātudhāna, who fills himself with the flesh of man, and he who fills himself with the flesh ofhorses or of other animals, and he who steals the milk of the cow-- cut off their heads with your flame.”
Om Hare Hare Krishna, Jai Shree Agni Deva. Jai Maharishi Vyasa.
India really fell when Hinduism is no longer the framework in the government. Jai Shree Maharishi Vyasa.
Om Hare Krishna, Om Nammo Narayana, Jai Indra Devrajya, Jai Agni Deva, Jai Maharishi Vyasa.
That's the diversity of Hinduism
Very well said 👏... Kshatriyas went for mrigaya expedition, that is killing a deer(s), as mentioned in the shastras. Besides, skin of wild animals were used by sages for meditation in ancient India. Food needs to be as per body type and not as a forced version of a society.
Why would you need to preach not eating meat if there wasn't a significant population eating meat?
In ancient India during the vedic period there were a lot of rituals and animal sacrifices. Sheep's, goat's, pigs, wild boars etc.. were prominent. And yes they were eating meat.
Lol another Abrahamic loser in ancient India there were a lot of rituals like how to slay terrorist like Abrahamics and save animals from these demons don't worry you will get the taste of it!
That was pre-vedic Hinduism. In Shrimad Bhagavatam 11.5.14 and Manusmriti 5.48, Lord Krishna and Lord Indra prohibit eating meat.
Bulls too
@@SDYUchgmywrldthey don't prohibit, they suggest what's best for you.
It's not islam to impose the ideology in others though
@@SDYUchgmywrldlord Krishna, lord Ram, lord Shiva never accepted any kind of meat.
In ancient India, diet was as per the profession one is in. It was also as per the ashram. So Kshatriyas ate meat normally but once they enter in Vanprashtashram, they will leave non veg diet.
In my region called Kumoun we eat raw goat meat during many rituals in the ancestoral village
That is great to hear that Hindu culture has food culture and lived experience of the people of those culture of eating raw meat. Eating raw meat is sometimes essential for curing disorders and some diseases.
none sense they do this to remember their ancestor who were hunter gathers ( many thousand ago) and they eat raw meat in a very small portion just for a bite it is very symbolic & one should protect this symbolic practices ...and some also drink small drop of raw blood.
@@urrasscal8380 ja be c dsdk tera Gyan nahi chahiye
@@urrasscal8380 It's not symbolic so don't be blasphemous we eat more like sabji substitute don't apply your colonized mind to my customs
@@user-ih6be2xr4 What is his mind supposed to be colonised by?
verse 5.56 as translated by Olivelle states, "there is no fault in eating meat, in drinking liquor, or in having sex; that is the natural activity of creatures. Abstaining from such activity, however, brings greatest rewards."
City people don't understand basic human necessities at all, sometimes go into the interiors of rural areas and see how life is. It's basic human behaviour to eat whatever is possible to eat. 🗿 Vegan food is not very common amongst peoples it's a choice.
I read that even Brahmins ate meat even cows and that Shri Adi Shankaracharya prohibited us from eating meat to tackle the rise of Buddhism and Jainism which advocates total ahimsa. Which is why lot of rituals involves using silver cows (over actual meat in past). There is nothing wrong with it as Humans were hunters before farmers.
No. Commie propaganda.
You are quite right....regarding shankaracharya and buddhism point...just that there is no proof hindus ate cow...though yes buffalo meat was quite common in mountains, tantric practioners, south india and parts of east india, maybe even some coastal regions some time ago....gandhism also led to this...as gandhism was focusing on reducing eat consumption and sacrifices
@@yogiojas buffalo is still sacrifice in assam kamakya mandir
Those who ate meat are fools .Those who didn't ate meat are wise
Just One point I would like to explain upon, In the valmiki ramayan translation by Shree purnpajna das(ISKCON) it is mentioned that after the ashva-med yajna was done the ashva was killed but by vedic rituals and mantras which insured that the horse got a higher birth in next life. It has not mentioned about eating the meat of the ashva or horse. In the vedic times as asuras and rakshas also occupied the earth who might have eaten non-vegetarian food.
Reincarnation is not there explicitly in Rig Veda....There are very few references means if there was ,it wasn't mainstream..maybe concept of reincarnation became popular after vedas..in vedanta
Pre-Vedic Hinduism allowed meat but not Hinduism after the age of Vyasa and Krishna. Technically speaking in modern times after the age of Lord Krishna and when Ved Vyasa wrote the Veadashastras, Mahabharata, and Mahapuranas. Lord Krishna and Lord Indra instructed devotees to not eat meat. Shrimad Bhagavatam 11.5.14 and Manusmriti 5.48 prohibits eating and animal slaughter of all meat irrespective of animal from land or sea. Eating meat is foreign to India and most Indians, and brought by colonialists.
So listen to Lord Krishna and Lord Indra.
Eating meat is allowed as long its a permitted meat like non-beef or non-pork, but you have to purify yourself afterwards. Much like Kshatriyas do.
Enough with this Mleccha talk. We need Lord Vishnu to come as Kalki to get rid of the Mlecchas.
Sir can u make a detailed video on Samrat Vikramaditiya of vikram smvat times
Sorry to say some muslim rulers have destroyed the written records and evidences kept in Nalanda University, but can be seen in Prophet Muhammad's uncle work.
Eat porotta with beef curry you will get moksha, 3 times🙏🏻💯
If you eat then fine, no need to say this without any reason and don't act like that's not offensive
Vidyasagar in the 19th century Bengal had written a lot of treatises that Vedic Brahman was a beef eating tribe and called "Ghoghnaa" because a calf had to be sacrificed to please him. It may be true because in Iran bull heads adore tops of ancient pillars and Sanskrit titles are still common in many people.