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  • Опубликовано: 6 сен 2023
  • Welcome to another Sound Exchange Session episode featuring my co-host Anthony. For this episode we will be discussing Problematic Trends In The Record Industry.
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  • @JJ-ez3tr
    @JJ-ez3tr 11 месяцев назад +14

    On the west coast, high demand used CDs run around $9 or $10. If you get a new CD on release, yes you can get a sale. But new titles are skimping on packaging as most come in those horrible digi-wallets, which are basically thin cardboard envelopes that scratch the disc when remove the CD.

  • @SaintMartins
    @SaintMartins 11 месяцев назад +9

    The industry will never learn. By the year 2000 retail stores were selling CD's for $16 - $20. In 2002 the Napster/online download thing exploded. By 2007 stores started closing down & record companies were laying off 20% -30% of their workforce.

  • @Skycladatdusk78
    @Skycladatdusk78 11 месяцев назад +9

    At times like these I'm so glad I prefer CDs. In some cases I can get 3 CDs for the price of 1 vinyl.

    • @patientzero3367
      @patientzero3367 4 месяца назад

      Very true that's what I've started to do

  • @markcusack6335
    @markcusack6335 11 месяцев назад +5

    Superb, thoroughly engrossing discussion. Thank you.

    • @BrendonSnyder
      @BrendonSnyder  11 месяцев назад +1

      You’re welcome Mark! We’re glad you enjoyed the discussion.

  • @bigedhaaheo
    @bigedhaaheo 11 месяцев назад +1

    Aloha Brendon,
    Excellent topic.
    These greedy price Gouging companies , will never learn. I'm 67 years old, been buying New & Used record albums since the early 1970's when I was in High School .
    I recall when Elton John's new released started the trend of a new price increase.
    Then the disco era hit & record sales drop tremendously. Then Cassette tapes got popular, which save the music industry. Then in the 1980's Cd's revived the music 🎶 market, but these Cd's weren't cheap they were being priced at $18.99 digital. Then the younger generation wanted affordable music, then streaming started then the music industry sank. Sad to say, if these so called greedy companies don't stop taken advantage of the younger generation of music listeners.
    The Industry might fall again.
    Here in Honolulu Hawaii, we had at least 7 independent music shops in the early 1980's, today we have (1) Major independent (RSD) Music Store. we do have 2 other small one's which one of them do participate in (RSD) on a smaller scale. Because of this I purchased a lot from Amazon & other companies abroad if the shipping is feasible.
    I will keep on collecting because I enjoy it , but majority are listeners not collectors like my self & are buying Vinyl or Cd's for the nostalgia & these are the ones in my opinion is keeping this music industry going. So these industry greedy
    companies better be prepared when these listeners start getting tired of the price increases of a physical format & they will start selling off their collections, & cheap Phongraph , which I see a lot more of here in Honolulu. Because it's a fad for the young ones, some will stick with it, but majority will move on to something else.
    The sad part is the independent record stores will suffer 😪....
    I hope your video will reach some of those greedy companies. So they will know what can happen, history sad to say always repeats it's self. We never learn....
    Thanks again Brandon.
    Looking forward to another video soon.
    Mahalo Ed

  • @zoltanszabo4242
    @zoltanszabo4242 11 месяцев назад +4

    This was fun, guys! I love how people called, came by.
    I drew a line at 20 USD/LP years ago, and I am sticking to it. I can do it, because I'm not a vinyl fetishist, CDs are just as good for me.
    I talked to a record store owner here in Hungary a few weeks ago about prices. The lady told me that there are buyers like me, who are very conscious about prices, because for us CDs, records, cassettes are about the music. We love to explore, cover wide ranges. Even if you are a metal only or jazz only fan, you can cover a wide range. And then there are those who zero in on their favorite band and they don't care how much it costs, because the collection they are heading for is limited. The LPs are just a bit more than decorations, displayable trophies. Hell, I know a guy who has to own every color variant of the Depeche Mode albums! I'm not saying that these people are fools, their drive is different. Metallica is typically the band that has fans like that. But unfortunately I suspect that it is them who the record companies can rely on, when it comes to working the money-suction machinery.

    • @Jhon-Rocks
      @Jhon-Rocks 11 месяцев назад

      You're right about some who need every varient... and that is a puzzle to me. I can see wanting to have the original pressing, if you have owned it. And then getting a remastered or half speed. It's about the listening experience at that point. But to get the white, swirl, red, Newbury Comics, Target and however many stores will put their spin on it. Get it... spin 😆 that takes a lot of cash 💸 💰 invested. And I believe they will not open possibly any. I know those people. Believe me. It's wild. I buy my records to listen to. Now I will admit that I have a few saved. But I have a Michael Jackson lp, I've seen selling for over $200... and I love to listen to it. Their's a Morrisy I want, but will not pay the crazy money for it. I got The Kings and Queens of the Underground from Bilky Idol on Amazon... it has to be a mistake, for if I remember $12.99 and it's very limited split black and white, that selling for about $200 in places.

  • @Andy-bz7ow
    @Andy-bz7ow 11 месяцев назад +4

    I will buy new (reissues) all day long. I like albums clean and to sound great!! Used is hit or miss

  • @TonyPascarella-x2l
    @TonyPascarella-x2l Месяц назад

    Excellent topic gentleman. My opinion is this.... I buy used vinyl from the 50s thru late 80s because it was recorded, mixed, and mastered in analog. I buy cd's from late 80s forward because most recording studios converted to digital. I can hear the difference between the two formats, but I like them both. I will only buy reissues of classics on vinyl when necessary, but do not/have not purchased new releases on vinyl. Most used cds in upstate NY where I live are $4 to $5. Used vinyl is more but I don't care if it's something I want. Anything new since 1990 I buy on cd, and cd is cheaper than vinyl. Having said all that - power to the music lovers/collectors of the world!

  • @markbunton9919
    @markbunton9919 11 месяцев назад +7

    The pricing is what killed the music business in the 90’s. It drove people to downloading and streaming. In addition to people not buying CDs/vinyl the price of concert tickets have skyrocketed to compensate for the loss of album sales revenue. It’s no wonder why many legacy acts just tour off of nostalgia instead of spending time and money off the road to sell a few thousand copies when they can keep money flowing by touring

    • @lateramae
      @lateramae 11 месяцев назад

      This is absolutely true. The rising costs of CDs and vinyls made people stop buying physical products. Because very few people buy physical music products nowadays, artists have to raise the price of their concert tickets and merchandise. Currently, artists get their income from touring and if they can't tour, then they lose money.

  • @teckertime
    @teckertime 11 месяцев назад +2

    Glad to see Anthony back in the videos. Quality Guy.

  • @Stephen1164
    @Stephen1164 11 месяцев назад +3

    Great insight from you both, vinyl is insane I prefer my cd’s!! They can paint the vinyl any color I will still take my CD. BTW Tom Petty threaten to call his album in 1981 “The $6.98 album” to stop the price increase.

  • @dano1962
    @dano1962 11 месяцев назад +44

    I avoid the ridiculous cost of vinyl by not buying vinyl. CDs are the way to. Cheap, better quality, no cleaning. I've NEVER understood the vinyl resurgance.

    • @jimmycampbell78
      @jimmycampbell78 11 месяцев назад +8

      Neither me. I think CDs are amazing too. Vinyl lovers always come back with bigger artwork and their ‘warmer’ sound and audiophile claims; but I think vinyl is a rip off and a massive money/time sink (cost/maintenance/condition risk).

    • @Skycladatdusk78
      @Skycladatdusk78 11 месяцев назад +10

      I think CDs sound better as well, I have 11,000 +.

    • @dietmarsteiner1070
      @dietmarsteiner1070 11 месяцев назад +2

      CD prices are rising, too! For exmple 72 seasons by Metallica 24€/25,67$!

    • @lionheartroar3104
      @lionheartroar3104 11 месяцев назад +5

      Sold my vinyl collection 20 years ago for the cd format. Have never looked back.

    • @MiguelA99
      @MiguelA99 11 месяцев назад +4

      I am collecting cds since 30 years ago and I do still love them.. but I do not buy much now because I think I own almost what I want... cd has always been the way to go and you can find almost all releases from a singer/band. Difficult to get all that stuff on vinyl.

  • @RockNRod.
    @RockNRod. 11 месяцев назад +3

    Definately a tricky topic. Obviously, huge touring bands dont need the vinyl revenue stream, but hopefully smaller bands are making some money off of their vinyl sales.

  • @Spiralout-lh4dj
    @Spiralout-lh4dj 11 месяцев назад +4

    Thank you for this video!! More people need to speak up over this!! It saddens me for all the musicians and music lovers out there!! Hope it gets better, man!!!

    • @BrendonSnyder
      @BrendonSnyder  11 месяцев назад +2

      I think if more people took a stance on this, especially bands, then things might start to shift in the industry. Problem is, people just keep going along with it silently and therefore nothing happens making a bad situation worse.

  • @ccarney1126
    @ccarney1126 11 месяцев назад +2

    Fair play to the lads at Sound Exchange. It’s hard to beat their prices. Believe me, I know. I shop around all of north Jersey and buy a lot of vinyl.

    • @williamtm1965
      @williamtm1965 11 месяцев назад +1

      so true...every time I go to their store I walk out with some records

  • @rovo7249
    @rovo7249 11 месяцев назад +1

    So true. I used to go out for music hunt every weekend. Now is twice a month at the most. All because gas and record prices increase.

  • @Hir0-Protagonist
    @Hir0-Protagonist 11 месяцев назад +1

    Im soooo glad i've stuck with cds over the years. New vinyl prices are ridiculous.

  • @Madhatter8547
    @Madhatter8547 11 месяцев назад +3

    I’ve noticed that CD prices(at least on Amazon) are starting to creep up a bit as well.

    • @davej.meister5421
      @davej.meister5421 11 месяцев назад +1

      NOT just Amazon...but BN's online prices as well. I used to be able to get CDs for $4.99 or $5.99 via BN for almost a decade. Then the prices shot up for one CD from $5.99 to $16.99. Bunch of crap!

  • @lateramae
    @lateramae 11 месяцев назад +1

    Brand new CD prices are not as bad as brand new vinyl prices, but they're still up there. If the price is out of my budget, I usually wait for the price to go down before purchasing the CD. That or I buy used CDs. Vinyl album prices these days are ridiculous, though.

  • @celebratedsummerrecords5621
    @celebratedsummerrecords5621 11 месяцев назад +1

    yet again I find myself fully in line with you both. Nothing will change until stores like ours can build a true indie collition (not whatever bs ones currently in the pocket of the majors.

  • @m_recordz
    @m_recordz 10 месяцев назад +1

    This was a fascinating vid. Thanks for putting the industry into perspective.

  • @jambogeordie
    @jambogeordie 11 месяцев назад +1

    Great video gents. Really eye opening. Pre ordered the new Stones on vinyl (I'm in Canada) for $58 (blue vinyl)...take out the $10 shipping-$48 for a single vinyl record😢 Amazon (if anyone cares) was $45...surely/mercifully we have peaked!

  • @benjamingoldstein6298
    @benjamingoldstein6298 11 месяцев назад +4

    That's why I buy used; unfortunately, even used prices are getting insane.

  • @tapanim6576
    @tapanim6576 11 месяцев назад +2

    Freaking awesome video. 🤘😎🤘 You are so right about everything you talked about. It was a pleasure to listen and watch you guys. 🤘😎🤘

  • @amateurmusicresearch1972
    @amateurmusicresearch1972 11 месяцев назад +1

    A problematic trend I see is that turntables are widely available, but if you want to buy a new cd/dvd/bluray player, it gets difficult, at least in my country. They're just not sold anymore, and in the case of the discman, not manufactured at all.

  • @britpopbuzz8564
    @britpopbuzz8564 11 месяцев назад +1

    Wow what a video that hits that hits the nail on the head. It's 100% true that vinyl prices are going up and pushing prices up across the board in music.
    People just need to hold back and not rush out to buy brand new. Take your time and wait. Be patient and eventually a used copy of something you want will become available. As a collector that's something you have to learn. It's not about making a collection over night. Rome wasn't built in a day. Always go for used unless it is a brand new album.

    • @BrendonSnyder
      @BrendonSnyder  11 месяцев назад +1

      I hear you but as big of a music fan as I am, I can’t wait weeks and even months hoping a used copy shows up. Used turnover isn’t the same today as it once was either. Some vinyl and CDs don’t even stay in print past the first pressing which might only be a few thousand copies so if you don’t buy it new you’ll be paying much more used. It can be a real gamble waiting for a used copy as it could skyrocket in price.

    • @britpopbuzz8564
      @britpopbuzz8564 11 месяцев назад

      @@BrendonSnyder I totally agree. That's a valid point, depending on who the artist is the price is very high.

  • @defaultx238
    @defaultx238 8 месяцев назад +1

    So many older artists albums (original pressings) are going up and up in price, so I imagine it's cheaper to get the reissues, which have a "guaranteed" newness, I've had many og albums I bought that were a little pricey, but an original, end up sounding terrible.

  • @tjflash60
    @tjflash60 11 месяцев назад

    Thanks for the discussion. I have always been a rock music fan and since I have no musical talent when I needed a music class in college I took a class on Music Industry Business. The instructor was also the owner of a local recording studio. It is interesting how much has changed and cycled since the early 80’s.

  • @ralfwalter3923
    @ralfwalter3923 11 месяцев назад

    Best fuckin video I've seen all year! Hell yeah. Keep it real!

  • @ChrisPropfeMusicallyObsessed
    @ChrisPropfeMusicallyObsessed 11 месяцев назад +2

    Great video, guys! I usually buy new too unless I kind find a NM earlier pressing. Not happy about the price increase though. Lol. I love seeing the Samhain album behind you by the way.

  • @Original_Lurke_fromthe_Unknown
    @Original_Lurke_fromthe_Unknown 11 месяцев назад

    Hey Brendon, great seeing Anthony again. Whatever people think doesn’t matter and it’s none of their business. I for one never thought you had a gripe with Anthony. People should just keep to themselves.

  • @vitortelles92
    @vitortelles92 9 месяцев назад +1

    Hello from Brazil guys, great channel, congrats o/

    • @BrendonSnyder
      @BrendonSnyder  9 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you, so glad you’re enjoying it! 🖐️

  • @ronmartin4212
    @ronmartin4212 11 месяцев назад

    I didnt know David Hyde-Pierce worked here!!!Awesome!!(guy in blue shirt,Brandon.)

  • @motleyfan7558
    @motleyfan7558 11 месяцев назад +2

    Good to see you both. Great show.

  • @chrisknowlton9460
    @chrisknowlton9460 11 месяцев назад +2

    Vinyl is a RIP off but people still pay. Records cost $8 -or $9 when i stopped buying vinyl (1988). I understand inflation and cost increase over time but $25-$30 for one record is insane. It's greed pure and simple.

  • @billymuellerTikTok
    @billymuellerTikTok 11 месяцев назад +1

    welcome back Anthony!!!!

  • @halloweenlady4073
    @halloweenlady4073 3 месяца назад

    the only records I really had were ones my dad gave me when I was little. I am a cd person. I custom built my shelving to fit my books, movies, and cds. Unfortunatly for me both films and cds are becoming harder to find and more $$$. Though I am one of the weirdos who does not care about duluxe, first printing, or pacakging so much as just owning the stuff I love. I don't mind if a cd is missing the book as long as the disc is in good shape. I do like a cd to at least have the backing paper though so I can read the title easily on my shelf. I know they do these new cardboard cases to be more eco friendly and I am cool with that but I hate the ones they do thin like records because you cant read it on the shelf. The cardboard ones where you can still read the side is much better.

  • @jorgemaria3624
    @jorgemaria3624 11 месяцев назад +1

    Amazing record store

  • @ignatiusb.samson977
    @ignatiusb.samson977 11 месяцев назад +1

    I'd love that copy of Mindcrime....

  • @lorenzoferguson7055
    @lorenzoferguson7055 11 месяцев назад

    Great discussion. I only own CDs. Great to learn about vinyl.🤘

  • @ericmiller1881
    @ericmiller1881 11 месяцев назад

    I uttered those exact words years ago. "Im not just buying one!"😂

  • @jimmyr204
    @jimmyr204 11 месяцев назад +1

    I can't deal with the vinyl drama and stick to CD's. Wow, running a music store sounds fun in theory, but a total nightmare in real life.

  • @mondoenterprises6710
    @mondoenterprises6710 11 месяцев назад +1

    Always better to go to a good indie store to check out the merch.

  • @Nephilim-81
    @Nephilim-81 10 месяцев назад

    Since things are so expensive now I usually focus on getting really good recording quality albums. I’m lucky to buy maybe 12 to 15 CDs a year minus boxsets. Family costs and living costs are insane. They are doing it on purpose though. 😮

  • @PopPop_2
    @PopPop_2 11 месяцев назад +1

    I haven't bought any vinyl for a while now. Spent a bit on a new Pioneer cd player and gotta say cd's sound great, and I'm glad I invested in it. Vinyl is getting out of hand and I'm not paying what the suits want me to for vinyl. Cd sounds depend greatly on your system. The better the system, the better they sound..

    • @JJ-ez3tr
      @JJ-ez3tr 11 месяцев назад

      Which CD player did you get? And where?

    • @PopPop_2
      @PopPop_2 11 месяцев назад +1

      @JJ-ez3tr I just checked and it's a Yamaha cd-s303 and from Amazon. Had trouble with several other brands skipping including Onkyo and Tascam. Had to return them. But zero problems with the Yamaha.

  • @neillbarrett4959
    @neillbarrett4959 11 месяцев назад +1

    Welcome back guys I missed your videos did you hear the new stones track I'm looking forward to the new album.

  • @JukkaTirkkonen-xz9xy
    @JukkaTirkkonen-xz9xy 11 месяцев назад

    Anthony we're been cool..good speaks

  • @JukkaTirkkonen-xz9xy
    @JukkaTirkkonen-xz9xy 11 месяцев назад

    👏👏good speakings

  • @krujones
    @krujones 11 месяцев назад +4

    Record companies are seeing the huge increase in vinyl sale and getting greedy. Unfortunately I think they are going to price themselves to the point where people are going to stop buying records again

    • @davidtrahan3062
      @davidtrahan3062 11 месяцев назад +2

      You are spot on about your experience and opinion 💿👍👌✅

    • @jimmycampbell78
      @jimmycampbell78 11 месяцев назад +1

      There is massive greed from record companies. I commented on this at Phil Aston’s whats spinning magazine channel. He reviewed a Jeff Beck 4 disc and book cd boxset that was £65. (Probably about 90- 100 US dollars). He defended the price but I thought it was a massive rip off attempting to cash in on Jeff beck’s passing. Its just not on imo, and it was a cd boxset as well. WAy too much and i do not believe in “collectors prices”

    • @davidtrahan3062
      @davidtrahan3062 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@jimmycampbell78 well said ✅✊👊🤙☝️

  • @tommyaddison6539
    @tommyaddison6539 11 месяцев назад

    Great content! Thanks, as troubling as this is, still a fun watch

  • @jazzpunk
    @jazzpunk 11 месяцев назад

    Cool Shuggie Otis album...LPs in my heyday (1970-1985-ish) were $4 at the NEX. A litte higher + tax in-town.
    Being a young musician at the time, many of those LPs are not in great shape.
    About 5 years ago, I wanted fresh copies of Led Zep III & IV and FRAGILE. 3 LPs, $75 at B&N. Told the cashier I spent $12 on these same 3 records back in the day.

  • @tommyaddison6539
    @tommyaddison6539 11 месяцев назад +2

    Sam Goody were thieves! I remember those prices!

    • @BrendonSnyder
      @BrendonSnyder  11 месяцев назад

      As I remember, they were always overpriced. I was one of those people that shopped at Circuit City where they sold CDs at near cost.

  • @Nephilim-81
    @Nephilim-81 10 месяцев назад

    Well here in Canada it is disgusting. Inflation is nuts. Used CDs are the best option for affordable collecting

  • @MetalGreggNY75
    @MetalGreggNY75 11 месяцев назад

    Hey Brandon & Anthony! My thing about the industry that’s slightly perturbed be is there dozens of turntables available but CD players are hard to get and the players that are available are like high end transports that cost $500-$800.

  • @melprophet1936
    @melprophet1936 11 месяцев назад +1

    I recently read an article online about the music industry (I think it was from Rolling Stone) which basically said that recent contract negotiations between the major record labels and streaming services resulted in a new deal that lowered the percentage of sales revenue distributed to record labels. Simply put, with the new deal which runs industry wide, labels (and artists) are making less money from sales....This might be the reason why the pricing of new vinyl is going up. It attempts to compensate for the decrease.

    • @the-vinyl-dreamscape5084
      @the-vinyl-dreamscape5084 11 месяцев назад

      Yes. Less for the labels. More for the artist. That’s a good thing. Prices of new product is increasing because record labels are greedy.

    • @melprophet1936
      @melprophet1936 11 месяцев назад

      @@the-vinyl-dreamscape5084 I want more for the artists too, but I don't believe the article said the artists were getting any increase from the new contracts. As I recall it was the streaming services that made got the increase.

  • @rubberpigg01
    @rubberpigg01 11 месяцев назад

    Hey, f*** yeah!! 😄

  • @Candywarhol
    @Candywarhol 10 месяцев назад

    Obviously it's been a few years, BUT... I seem to recall Casey Kasem describing the Tom Petty price "disagreement" this way: The label wanted to price the album at $9.98, TP refused and threatened to change the album title to "The $8.98 Album"

    • @BrendonSnyder
      @BrendonSnyder  10 месяцев назад +1

      Yes and Metallica actually did that with their E.P. titling it the “$5.98 E.P. Garage Days Re-Revisited” because the label wanted to charge more. Which is what makes it so frustrating that Metallica has raised its vinyl prices on older albums making some more expensive than others.

  • @trailtherapyman
    @trailtherapyman 11 месяцев назад +1

    In regard to pricing, it's simply price gouging in my opinion. Certain albums are OOP and those used copies sell for lots of money, and labels know this. They then re-release it and mark it up knowing fans have two choices: Try to find a used one, or bite the bullet and buy a new copy for a bit more.

  • @dlwseattle
    @dlwseattle 11 месяцев назад

    I dont go for much of the old stuff anymore. I mostly only buy new music to support new bands (no not metallica or foo fighters, but to each their own) - there are a lot of great new bands if you do the work to find them. I generally only buy new vinyl if it is under $25. The only time i buy cds is if it is 40% less than the cost of the vinyl version or less even. I'm 63 and bought my first vinyl in 1973 so ive never been able to shake vinyl altogether.

  • @davej.meister5421
    @davej.meister5421 11 месяцев назад

    Of course, my preferred format is CD, just as anyone else's. But NOT ALL good albums have EVER made it to CD. So I have to opt for vinyl. I have bought several vinyl records for NO more than $3. Many of them were as low as 50 cents each, and a lot of them were ones that were OOP on CD. The only vinyl record I splurged on was one that was hard to find, UK's sophomore release Danger Money from 1979. I spent $8. I could've gotten it for $15 on CD. That ended up being a bad investment, but I didn't even know its CD was still in print. I hate that the UMG CD prices online jumped from $4.99 or $5.99 to $17. That's totally insane. And over the years, I purchased several $4.99 or $5.99 CDs. Then the online retailers had to gouge the prices. Curses! Foiled again!! UGH!!!

  • @kennethhardbargeriii2798
    @kennethhardbargeriii2798 11 месяцев назад +1

    Did you guys ever order from bmg music service and Columbia house there cds was pretty cheap back in the day.

  • @scrubbadog6768
    @scrubbadog6768 11 месяцев назад

    I'm not sure what the cost price is to the store, or their mark up, but Metallica - 72 Seasons at my local record shop - $105AU ( black) or $110.00 (purple). I can order the same thing & get it shipped from Denmark to Australia for $30 less. This is the same for most releases.

  • @Mattomega
    @Mattomega 11 месяцев назад

    Great video. But the used vinyl market is alive and ever growing at Revilla and Princeton Record Exchange.

    • @BrendonSnyder
      @BrendonSnyder  11 месяцев назад

      Yes it’s alive and growing everywhere. The issue is the pricing. But in most cases it’s not the stores, it’s the labels and distributors that are jacking up costs.

    • @Mattomega
      @Mattomega 11 месяцев назад

      perhaps but I never buy new vinyl -- there is so much used. the good stores follow real estate sales, auctions, everything. I wrote an article years ago on the Record Exchange (the music store of my youth!) about how they do acquisitions. Really interesting stuff. Glad to see you got to revilla! @@BrendonSnyder

  • @markkemp7608
    @markkemp7608 10 месяцев назад +1

    The companies will just say inflation and justify the prices.

  • @dietmarsteiner1070
    @dietmarsteiner1070 11 месяцев назад +1

    72 seasons by Metallica was sold for 50€/53,5$, when it came out. Only the black pressing! The yellow/black one was at 96$!!! At the resellers like discogs the same record was sold for average 160$!!!!, peaking at 355$!
    People are dumb enough and pay!!!

  • @mse1576
    @mse1576 11 месяцев назад +1

    In the early 90s Best Buy would have new CDs at practically cost.

    • @BrendonSnyder
      @BrendonSnyder  11 месяцев назад

      Circuit City was another store like that. They sold the CDs and DVDs at cost often taking a loss as a way to get people in the door who then may stay and buy an appliance or something where they made the money back in spades. It was actually a good business model.

    • @mse1576
      @mse1576 11 месяцев назад

      Bought a stereo from CC that BB had for a hundred dollars more.@@BrendonSnyder

    • @michaelrogers8126
      @michaelrogers8126 Месяц назад

      This is so true. Bought a lot of CD’s from CC. It was a way to get people in the door. Miss those days

  • @matthewchance8835
    @matthewchance8835 11 месяцев назад

    Hey Guys,
    I stopped buying record albums many years ago, I bought albums when I was younger and they were usually $8.99 [for single] & $14.99 [for double] so for $100.00 I can get roughly
    8-9 single records, I only bought double albums if it was something I wanted [Frampton Comes Alive] The price of albums has gone up so much now, that I started buying
    CDs, mainly because they're a lot cheaper than vinyl albums. So jacking up the prices on all these common albums is ridiculous, I wouldn't pay $45.00 for any album, that's crazy.
    So basically, if I had $100.00 now, I'd only come home with 2 albums, compared to the 8-9 I bought about 35-40 years ago.

  • @quolizzy1554
    @quolizzy1554 11 месяцев назад +1

    I just heard Australia are going to stop selling DVD's due to streaming, can you believe this if it happened to music in the States and here in the UK.
    Are we really at this stage of losing physical media?

  • @MarcDurain
    @MarcDurain 11 месяцев назад

    Iron Maiden, "Live After Death" : three years ago, 25,99 euros ; today, 40 euros. But I think of a band who has maintained reasonable prices : Dream Theater, for their archive releases : you could get a triple vinyl for 34,99 euros.

  • @cal7957
    @cal7957 11 месяцев назад

    My issue is last night I saw Unveil the strength at a small bar and they don’t have enough support to make a cd. I bought their other merch to help support but that sucked. Hopefully they can eventually put one out

  • @MrMetalminded
    @MrMetalminded 11 месяцев назад

    What a shame, reminds me of the movie Wall Street “greed is good”.
    Everything is more expensive and it’s ridiculous!
    I was at one of those antique malls and found a few sellers that had vinyl. The prices were insane for easy to find typical classic rock. I was disappointed (though I’m more a CD guy).

  • @nealhanna5609
    @nealhanna5609 11 месяцев назад

    U can't get more people into vinyl because of the high prices. People are now going to cds because it's cheaper. But now cds are way up on price. I think that people just use Spotify instead of dealing with physical formats

  • @ignatiusb.samson977
    @ignatiusb.samson977 11 месяцев назад

    I've been freaking out about the 30 to 50 dollar Lp for a few years now. It's absurd. But it's the same with everything. Everything is more expensive now. And it will likely be that way forever, or until we experience some kind of economic correction.

  • @davidkornblatt851
    @davidkornblatt851 11 месяцев назад +1

    They want to make sure in the future that ALL MUSIC WILL BE STREAMING and THAT ONLY THEY WILL HAVE THE ONLY HARD COPY!

  • @briankessler3501
    @briankessler3501 11 месяцев назад +1

    Record companies are run by vultures, nodoubtaboutit.
    Thanks Brendon and Anthony also. 💯

  • @rakeshsinghal9920
    @rakeshsinghal9920 11 месяцев назад +1

    Discussed these are great f***ing points. Kind of gets me very annoyed. Enjoyed the video!

    • @BrendonSnyder
      @BrendonSnyder  11 месяцев назад

      Yeah both Anthony and I get annoyed by these issues all the time. It’s perplexing that the industry thinks it can sustain itself this way.

    • @rakeshsinghal9920
      @rakeshsinghal9920 11 месяцев назад

      Right. It seems like they are trying to grab as much money from the consumers until eventually we stop buying vinyls

  • @donnielcarter792
    @donnielcarter792 11 месяцев назад +1

    As long as someone buy records at high prices they will keep driving price up.I am 66 years old.This is total greed.

    • @BrendonSnyder
      @BrendonSnyder  11 месяцев назад

      Yes that’s true and certainly what the labels are counting on. It’s sort of like why the rents in NYC are so high. There is always someone with more money willing to come in and rent that apartment for more money.

  • @gratefulblac
    @gratefulblac 11 месяцев назад

    There was a vinyl price crisis in the mid to late 00s and people (mainly DJs) turned to cds as a cheap alternative. In fact the cd mixer with twin cd drives started to appear as a result.
    Is it time for a cd revival?

  • @quolizzy1554
    @quolizzy1554 11 месяцев назад

    Hi Brendon,
    I just had the inspiration for another question for your Q&A next time while watching the latest Lets go to the record store #38 at Princeton Record Exchange.
    Ok question was: what method do you use to cleanly remove those awful price stickers from CD cases?
    A friend of mine once told me to use nail varnish remover but it just seems to ruin the case with a nasty smudge kinda stain.
    Plus I have bought digi packs in the past and the price labels actually have torn off the area of the cover where the label was.
    Which really bums me as it ruins the CD or indeed vinyl album cover.
    So I would love to know your ways around this.
    Ok, have a great day.
    Bye bye.
    Dave.

    • @treff9226
      @treff9226 11 месяцев назад

      If you're talking about getting stickers off of CD jewel boxes, I buy nothing but used CDs and use Goo Be Gone, it removes any residue left behind from stickers, erases smudges and for stubborn stickers it breaks down sticker, making it much easier to completely remove! Goo Be Gone cleans and polishes up old jewel boxes better than any other solvent - it's an awesome product, I've used it on thousands of jewel boxes!

  • @christopherbarker1048
    @christopherbarker1048 11 месяцев назад +2

    So a Vinyl reissue of Ride the Lightning by Metallica for $32.98?
    I could by 3 CDs with that amount. 4 CDs if there was a sale.

    • @BrendonSnyder
      @BrendonSnyder  11 месяцев назад +1

      Exactly our point!

    • @christopherbarker1048
      @christopherbarker1048 11 месяцев назад

      @@BrendonSnyder I'll be heading to Zia Records new location this weekend.

  • @kurjan1
    @kurjan1 11 месяцев назад

    Want to know where the prices will go..? Well here in Australia prices for vinyl is between $70 & $120 per album. And they're selling like hotcakes! So that's were you'll be in a couple of years.

    • @BrendonSnyder
      @BrendonSnyder  11 месяцев назад +1

      Prices in other country’s don’t usually affect the prices in a different country nor are they an outlier. For example, the price of a CD in Japan has always been twice the cost of one in the US. Yet in 40 years the US price has never doubled. I believe the same to be true for vinyl.

  • @lisathurston8265
    @lisathurston8265 11 месяцев назад

    Sales on the CD's vs Vinyl maybe the cost of vinyl materials. Gas prices will dictate the vinyl costs. it always was this why. 1980's when cost of gas went up so did vinyl records. Big oil do this all the time.

  • @mondoenterprises6710
    @mondoenterprises6710 11 месяцев назад +1

    Weird. I can get 2 or 3 new cds or one new album. I 'll get the 3 new cds. And still have money for some used cds or lps.

  • @patientzero3367
    @patientzero3367 4 месяца назад

    Because of this price increase in vinyl, I've got back to buy CDs and rarely buy vinyl

    • @BrendonSnyder
      @BrendonSnyder  4 месяца назад

      Yeah I just stayed with CDs 😂

  • @michaelhalford9709
    @michaelhalford9709 11 месяцев назад

    Buying records was a suckers game in the beginning and is even more now. Except for the beautiful covers the medium was too flawed. I couldn't imagine paying $20+ for a record. Cds were always the best.

  • @ignatiusb.samson977
    @ignatiusb.samson977 11 месяцев назад

    For new issued records. I will not pay more than 25 dollars on a single Lp. I won't pay more than 30 for a double Lp. And those are TOP END prices. That's it.

    • @BrendonSnyder
      @BrendonSnyder  11 месяцев назад

      I hear you. It’s unfortunate that prices are so high. I’d buy more vinyl as well if the prices weren’t so outrageous. The only time I shell out for vinyl is when its not available on CD.

  • @BTBAM310
    @BTBAM310 11 месяцев назад

    How much for that copy of Babes in Toyland Nemesisters???

  • @bsquared4604
    @bsquared4604 11 месяцев назад

    Metallica going after the cash? How unusual! I grew up on records. I can't pay more than $20 for a new record. Also, half the time they are warped anyway. The price of used records is through the roof too. When I go to the record store, I mostly browse. The fund days of buying records is long over.

  • @jasonsayre84
    @jasonsayre84 11 месяцев назад

    Also Walmart is selling those Metallica albums on CD for $5 a piece.....

  • @1962starchild
    @1962starchild 11 месяцев назад

    I HAVE ALWAYS BOUGHT VYNAL BUT THE PRICES ARE RIDICULOUS NOW .IAM NOW BUYING CDS NOW OR THE USED VYNAL THAT IS AFFORDABLE .AT LEAST AT 58 YEARS OLD THERE IS NOT A LOT MORE VYNAL I NEED LOL .

  • @mandomtz
    @mandomtz 8 месяцев назад

    The prices these days on new vinyl is outrageous. It has nothing to do with supply chain issues or supply/ demand or the cost or materials. I feel like pandemic fueled demand has finally been met. It's just classic mainstream record industry greed. I know damn well it doesn't it doesn't cost that much to produce a record. Why is that any single LP or reissue from sony or UMG cost $40-45 MSRP but smaller labels like Mississippi Records, Superior Viaduct and Drag City only charge $22 MSRP? The industry is just high on the hog and consumers are stupid stupid lemmings.The simple solution is just to boycott Major label releases till prices drop. The other issue is all of the rampant inflation and speculation on discogs driving up the cost of all used records. Suddenly common AF albums pressed in the millions by The Cars, Steely Dan and Fleetwood Mac are going for $30 or more which is just plain silly. I don;t think Cd's will take off just cuz of thier low price point. The value just isn;t there in terms of what you get. The small format art and chinsy jew case don't offer somthign better then just streaming.

  • @JukkaTirkkonen-xz9xy
    @JukkaTirkkonen-xz9xy 11 месяцев назад

    22,40

  • @jesses.9843
    @jesses.9843 11 месяцев назад

    They are testing how well ride the lightning sells compared to master of puppets and that will help them set the price to maximize profit. So dont buy ride the lighting. :)
    Edit. By ”they” I mean Metallica, not Anthony/Sound Exchange

  • @carstenselberg1255
    @carstenselberg1255 11 месяцев назад

    That's why I only buy CD's

  • @timothypreston6496
    @timothypreston6496 11 месяцев назад

    They are most likely doing this because record labels and artists don't make much money because of streaming.

  • @zundap100
    @zundap100 11 месяцев назад

    I dont buy new records, only used analog from 60`s, 70`s and some fom 80`s.

  • @Airbourne-Rocker
    @Airbourne-Rocker 11 месяцев назад

    I don’t see the appeal to Vinyl records! Lol hey let’s but Cassette or VHS it’s almost 2024 lmao

  • @dennisbrown4219
    @dennisbrown4219 11 месяцев назад

    Over pricing for the sake of over pricing is ridiculous

  • @christopherm.6991
    @christopherm.6991 11 месяцев назад

    There’s a lot of factors not being talked about here of why things became what they are. Not trying to defend an old music industry but let’s face it.
    Once Napster happened and tech grow to making music free and now streaming the average consumer doesn’t buy anything. So why does a band like a Metallica put a price on this stuff? It isn’t cause they don’t have enough money….no. They are a corporation. Overhead. The works to provide jobs like any company. Need to make the money to sustain it. Get it?
    You wanna blame things. Blame technology and why new music and artists are a complete joke now. Look at the youth and the bull crap they support. People like Cardi B are like McDonald’s. Making society dumber and weaker.
    Ok enough if my rant

  • @williamtm1965
    @williamtm1965 11 месяцев назад

    "gas is up" - no, it's not. Gas prices went down from previous price increase on vinyl.

    • @BrendonSnyder
      @BrendonSnyder  11 месяцев назад +1

      Gas prices fluctuate, vinyl prices never go down. They only go up. But the increase in the price of oil from a while back did lead to a shortage of materials for vinyl with caused delays and prices to increase. Once the prices are up, there up. That’s the reference we made.