The Case For Israel: Prof. Alan Dershowitz Q&A
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- Опубликовано: 13 окт 2011
- After a screening of his film, "The Case For Israel," at the Yale Initiative for the Interdisciplinary Study of Anti-Semitism (YIISA), Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz fields questions from a live audience. Shalom TV exclusive coverage.
Great job, Alen! What a masterpiece!
Am Yisrael Chai.
« We will overcome, one day »
I found it and read through it.
I loved how the arab at the end that said "why don't the jews get over the holocaust" got owned
Sorry youtube didn't let me see I had more than one response, I apologise. Could you give me a link so that I may read the whole context behind it?
Memorable! 2 yrs to Date, it's Still fundamental for International cooperation a Two State Solution for both to live side by side is imperative. Thank you Alan Dershowitz.
it's OK to STOP a debate to fix the mic situation...
this guy cries at night when he thinks of Finkelstein. and he cries when he thinks of Epstein, but those are different kind of tears.
Why do you keep getting kicked out of countriesC?
Jews and Christians are not enemies. Nor should neo-cons make Conservative Christians their enemies. All you have to agree on is separation of religion and state.
There is no need to fight with each other. Radical Islam will be a difficult enemy and will probably take more time and energy to defeat than Communism. Radical Islam has more potential for destruction than Fascism and Communism combined.
I hope you are both aware of that.
I am not religious but I have not problem with religious people. The main problem as I see it when there is no separation of state and religion.
"Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's"
Mathew 22:21
I want to understand the settlements. Are they just Jews buying land and building houses in yet to be decided territory? If so, then that is not Israeli claimed land, it is just people who are Jewish building houses in land that may be part of an Islamist future state. Once that happens the Jews could choose to sell the homes, or decide to stay in an Islamist state, unless Jews aren't allowed in an Islamist state, contrary to how Muslims are allowed in the Jewish state.
Indeed, I truly believe peace in the middle east will only come when the civilians come together from both sides, not the politicians.
I'm brazilian and I have the right to live in Europe, with all the benefits, because my great-grandfather was Italian and I have the Italian citizenship. That is law of return and I think it's fair. Some people truly have a problem with Jews.
Thank you very much for being informative!
No, Mr Goldstone only retracted ONE point and then only after pressure like being denied to attend his son's Bar Mitzvah.
The Case for Israel book talks about the 1937 partition being a Jewish state where Jews are a majority. That makes sense to me, but what about the 1947 partition plan? Was that a fair plan? I suppose it was based an understanding of future populations and just dividing up the land somewhat equally?
1947 designated about half of palestine to the future jewish state and a 50/50 arab-jewish demographic split, which enabled zionist forces to ethnically cleanse the palestinians
Fair enough, I thought it was a bit strange
Dershy owned!
Great job, Allen.
This is a good guy, but he gets some things wrong. He is not assertive enough when it comes to defending Israel by saying you can't use "disproportionate force". That is ridiculous, that is how war is won.
Can I ask who was attempting to restrict Mr Goldstone's access to his own son's Bar Mitzvah?
I would be happier if you could show me where he "circumvented" his way around evidence. You didn't say, although I do recognise the character limit so I don't blame you.
I don't think he is against you. I assume his main issue to maintain the separation of state and religion. As Jew I am well aware of the extraordinary support Protestant Christians have towards Jews and am grateful for it.
I have found the article, there are a number of things before and after that quote I feel change the context of it, however, I do agree it is still incorrect in the way he put it. I would like to say I myself am against collective punishment, regardless of anyone else, but that doesn't make me dismiss everything he has argued for/against. I shall continue in another comment.
Secondly if it is the case that he did intend it, because admittedly it is a controversial example he used, he states that if it is used for "terrorist operations". So not any random village would be knocked down, but one where the villagers allowed for the terrorists to operate from. Of course not all villagers would be responsible for this, so I do not fully agree, however, in law a bystander to a crime that does not act despite being able to, is often seen as just as guilty as perpetrator.
" In both collections of the hadith, Al-Bukhari and Muslim say to us:
"Judgment Day will not come before you fight the Jews, and the Jews will
hide behind a stone or a tree, and the stone or the tree will say: Oh Muslim,
oh servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him, with
the exception of the gharqad tree" - and this is why it is not uncommon to
see gharqad trees around the settlements and so on.
Muhammad Hussein, Grand Mufti of Jerusalem:PA
TV, Jan 9, 2012
BUUUURNED AT 20:10
If the Palestinians accepted the UN PARTITION snd recognize Israel as a state..then the Palestinians had their own state..no more refugees..so sad...
What is round and loathes and despises Bercotitz ?
The World..............
I think Mr Goldstone actually refuted the report so Dershowitz didn't have to :)
This guy represents the cesspool of humanity!
Bad. Worse. Worst. Not worser
I don't want you to do my research per say, but if you have made an assertion it is reasonable to ask for evidence for this, and as you are the one bringing new information to light it is your burden to prove it to me. I said for my research because I felt that this would further your motive to educate someone who may not know all of the facts.
Look everyone knows that the Jews have always been in the holy land! Solomon's temple! Judea and Samaria! Come on!
And in Judaism the Talmud says "Dina Demalchuta Dina"
Meaning the Law of the country is the law. One must pay taxes and abide the laws of the country
well said allen
Its been 10-years... no bomb.
Tzyon chai!
Nice speech! Good bless Israel:-)))
Okay, let us break down the reasoning you follow. If I were to say, the people in Greece "are on welfare" would this be racist? Evidently not, Greece is a national state concerned (or at least should be) with all its people. Ethnicity does not fall into anything Alan Dershowitz has said. The Palestinian people are a collection of many people, defined by a national consciousness, not an ethnic one. Alan Dershowitz is nothing like a Nazi.
amazing! thank you!
Unlike "anti-semite" Finklestien, this guy actually knows what he's talking about!!!
Not too far from what I think really.
Perhaps you need to take another semester. As a law student I would have thought extra care would have gone in to how you present you case in every sense, and by that I mean, it's "your" not "you're".
Not that I am a grammar Nazi, excuse the term, but if you are going to tell anyone to go to University again, at least make sure you sound like you have gone while doing so.
I love Israel, and I do think Alan D is doing a great job promoting her, but he's reputation is tarnished, as he was a member of the O.J. Simpson team. That's a shame.
He was paid to do a job, and he did it to the best of his ability.
Yea Goldstone was picked just because he was a Jew, not because of the work he did bringing the butchers in the old Yugoslavia to justice and not because he's considered one THE world's authority on International Justice. Strange how Mr. Dershowitz NEVER EVER mentions ONE deliberate lie in the report in ANY of his talks. And for good reason. He's a lawyer (whose used to justifying the actions and defending murderers) and he knows full well what "libel" is.
All very well but, delouaz, you didn't answer my question, where did Dershowitz support collective punishment, because of course I would be against that, but I cannot find it... Also there're plenty of other examples of states and groups using collective punishment, that mere fact that Dershowitz stands up against Israeli nationalists kind of demeans your comparison to him and Nazi's. Never seen a un-nationalistic Nazi in my life. But until you show me where he is for collective punishment..
Considering the IDF hasn't existed for even a single century I am now suspicious of your seeming attempts to dramatise this beyond reality. But for each crime they have witnessed and done nothing, I agree. You will have to get specific in order to have a debate on that issue further.
Indeed some have formed a group in "Break the Silence" but to try and apply that as something all Israeli soldiers,or even a sizable portion, is misguided. Many soldiers feel they have served their families
That is the plain truth.
as "the"* perpetrator
Word. Way to go Alan.
"If there is a God,send a flood" - could have chosen your timing a little better..
It was never occupied, silly.
It was disputed.
Facts, plox.
???? from where does he get his fact???
What can he said about:
- Settlements :when an Israeli group take over a house of a Palestinian family
- Take over other people land ??? Palestinian had their land but it's occupied
And he finishes with "Get over it"...get over what? the stealing, the killing, the hatred... that's so sad, I use to respect this guy so much...
But, tbh, that puts a lot of Palestinians in prison..
Dershowitz does have his Israel/Palestine facts right, and he's facts about the tacticts used there.
However, anything other than the conflict in the middle-east, I agree with you.
This reminds me the story about the wolf , the wolf is coming!! everybody gets attention and steps in but no wolf , same over and over again until no one believes and then the wolf really steps in and murderes them with justice .
Maybe, possibly maybe some attacks were through desperation, but you are approaching a middle east problem with western eyes. The cultural process of both sides is not like yours. Religion on both sides plays an impact, but mainly with the Palestinians. They justify doing it because they think they will get rewarded for taking a human life, most often innocent life.
And that isn't an accurate description of what happened, way way to simplistic of a historical narrative.
I did not call them "traitors", nor did I say they did a disservice to their families either, you are building a straw-man by putting words in my mouth. I honestly believe those claims should be looked into with utmost importance. But to characterize all of the Israeli army based on them is not representative. The approach that these guy exist meaning the whole of the IDF is bad is not fair.
Playing the victim? Paah. You talk to relative of the fogel family among others of playing the victim.
should Israel return to its 1967 border?
not at all ,he should innext all and dismantle all fakelestinian PA and Hamas give them Israeli education work residential rights and trouble makers expell !
"should Israel return to its 1967 border?"
You mean like when they gave up the land in Gaza, only for it to be used by Hamas to fire rockets at them?
It does not sexist such a thing as 1967 borders.
But if we play with the idea. Do you really think it's god to return what Jordan named West bank, to Jordan. Similar with Gaza, do you really think it's a god idea return it to Egypt? The people in Gaza suffered a lot.
Two things here. 1, those areas was illegally invaded, occupied by egypt and annexed by Jordan. 2. The land was illegally invaded and taken from the mandate for the Jewish National home.
Israel made a peace deal with Jordan as per U.N. resolution and could keep West bank.Israel made a peace deal with Egypt and returned Sinai, Egypt did not want to have Gaza back.
Why force them back to them? Is international law not something we should follow today?
Buy Palestinian a land far away from the middle east
If Israel has neuclear wepons why cant iran have neuclear weopons
Kinda stupid question. Its obvious. Iran has repeatedly vowed to wipe of the face of the earth its enemies as soon as it gets its hands on nuclear weapons. SInce when did Israel vow to do that?
um he was completely wrong. Iran doesnt have nuke no airspace violated!!!
" Iran doesnt have nuke"
which is why we want to keep it that way. in spite of what Iran wants.
Please! no more Iran-denial.
IRAN-denial is not quite like holocaust denial, but it's denial in the face of what Iran said it wants - which is to wipe out the Jewish people in Israel.
This is the same kind of denial people had in WW2 when Hitler said he wanted to wipe out the Jewish people because he was anti-zionist.
People just didn't believe he meant it.
liar liar liar.
this man is evil