Try Partners Get Interrogated By Corporate Interviewer | You Can Sit With Us Ep. 145
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- Опубликовано: 1 май 2023
- Expert job hunter and hiring manager AJ Escobar joins us to share interview hacks and how to land your dream job.
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I live in Sweden where we have 25 days of mandatory holiday each year. It makes my heart sink hearing the group talking about being afraid of taking vacation, knowing the tremendous health benefits of rest.
Definitely adopting Becky's "What makes you say that" that is genius 😂
When I shop at fancy grocery stores the cashier almost always thinks I’m paying as an instacart or other grocery service person. No clue why, like I don’t look like I should be shopping there for myself? So love this also, “are you instacarting?”“No, what made you ask that?”
And I don’t think anything negative about instacart workers just always makes me wonder why they assume that and don’t ask the people in front of me in line.
I’m gonna use this SO much
NEVER EVER DISCLOSE YOUR DISABILITIES TO A HIRING MANAGER OR ANYONE BESIDES THE HR PERSON AFTER YOU ARE PAST YOUR PROBATION PERIOD!!!!!!!!
I walked out of a job once. But I feel justified. A brand new manager screamed in my face (like I felt her spit hit my face.) she grabbed me while she shouted. It was triggering. (abusive ex-husband who liked to scream) she also called my spirituality into question and told me if I'm not Christian I'm wrong and that's why I have anxiety. So I left for lunch and just went home. I felt awful for my coworkers as it was a bakery (I was head baker) and it was 3 days before Thanksgiving. I tried going back to talk to management but couldn't get myself to do it.
As a Latina who’s had to work with “boomers” who thought i was younger than I am. Sometimes even when your work quality isn’t enough . And “what makes you say that” responses are fun to do but takes major courage and advocacy when you’re talking to authority figures . Even still, prepare for the the boomers to be angered and only make your time at the company more difficult, take notes, save emails and definitely have a time line for quitting.
Also, the only really "dramatic" way that I quit was an instance where I was working at a teaching job and was accused by a student of something pretty heinous that would be something that I would have been immediately terminated and lost my ability to teach anywhere. I was meeting with the principal, both assistant principals, the school resource officer, a deputy sheriff, my county's coordinator, and my building union representative.
Multiple adults wrote statements basically saying "hey, he wasn't even in the building when this incident allegedly occurred, so there's literally no way this happened," my union rep and county rep both shared that they were not happy how this situation was being handled. Finally, one of the student's friends had the courage to come forward and say that they made it all up.
I asked for the students to be removed from my class (I was teaching an elective) and asked if there would be any sort of repercussions for them. The principal, to my face, said "there's nothing we can really do about it..." to which the union rep and county rep both immediately said "uh, yeah there is..." however, the student was not punished in any way. I walked back to my classroom, typed up my resignation, CC'ing the Associate Superintendent (the principal's boss), my school and county union reps, my county coordinator, and basically said "fuck this shit, I'm out" in a very professional way. Printed it off, put it in an envelope with my classroom keys. Gathered my things and put them in my car. Then took my resignation down to the principal, handed it to him and said "you're going to need a sub for the rest of the year, I won't be back." They tried to talk me down (because nobody wanted to come to this school for obvious reasons...) and I told them that their lack of leadership was creating a culture where the inmates were running the asylum, and as a young teacher, I could not place myself in a situation where the risk was far higher than the reward. My union rep also came in as I was getting ready to walk out of their office, and handed him a copy of the grievance that had been filed by her and the county for much the same reason, and in a few poignant words said "unless you get it together, he will only be the first of many..."
I believe that principal ended up getting fired at the end of that school year.
I am so so happy Rainie ended up at 2nd try and not Kentucky! We need her
I read this before getting to that part and thought Kentucky was the name of a person they almost hired instead of Rainie. I was like damn kinda mean to Kentucky lol
Couldn’t agree more!!
As a native Appalachian (Becky pronounced it correctly), I would answer Rainie's like this:
I would begin by visiting the mine site and speaking with some of the employees to get information about the impact on the workers and their families.
I would then visit some local establishments such as gas stations, restaurants, and grocery stores in order to get some information on how this closure will impact the community.
Finally, I would speak with someone at the corporation that owns the mine to try and obtain some information about the decision to close the mine, but also, were there any other options to try and avoid the closure.
I didn’t disclose my fear and anxiety about talking on the phone when I got hired to be a graphic designer. It was awkward when I told them I wouldn’t be picking up the phone. They understood and worked around it for me. They were great.
Absolutely hilarious that Peloton is a sponsor of this episode lol
I'm glad some else saw this! Hahahahhahaha
YES!!!
Regarding the disclosing disability question: just having a mental health disorder does not automatically make it a disability. A disability is something that is disabling to the point that you require accommodations on a frequent basis bc w/out them, you could not do your job. The woman with panic disorder sounds like she is able to do her job, but may have an episode every once in a while. While I'm sure they are awful and disrupt her workday when they happen, the daily impact does not sound like it is significant enough to be considered a disabling condition. However, it doesn't mean she's not entitled to being treated with compassion by her employer when the episodes happen. It just wouldn't be considered a disability from a legal perspective. Also, no, you don't have to share your mental health problems with your potential employer in an interview.
oh my GOD this is coming at the perfect time. I've been breaking my back job hunting for months now and recently took a break from burnout/ lack of direction. ty!!!
sending you good vibes and good luck!!! 🫶🫶🫶
Sending you all the "Land a great job" vibes!❤
Sending lots of good vibes your way!
Same!
I was about to scoff at that "It's all about networking" comment until i realized that's how I got my current job 😂
I mean, I'm a great asset and the job and I were a good fit, but I did find out about through a mutual acquaintance.
I can't put into words how much this podcast cheers me up! I have been having such a "big sad" couple of weeks, and being able to wake up to the YCSWU crew really made my day. Thank you for always sharing positivity and kindness through this show, really appreciate you all!
Lol how y'all know I needed interview prep rn 😂 thanks for always taking about such a wide range of topics and bringing in experts if one of you isn't an expert on the topic
I didn't disclose my disability until i needed an accommodation.
This podcast makes the day so much better! Thank you for everything you do to make a mundane day better for everyone!
On disclosing mental health, neurodivergence, etc: Keep in mind that while the ADA does apply in many cases, unfortunately there's a certain amount of leeway for employers based on the requirements of the job. It's also entirely possible that a hiring manager will have a concern in their mind that they technically shouldn't consider, but will. For that reason, personally my strategy is to try to get an overall feel during the hiring process for the supports and the company's attitude towards disability and other issues of discrimination (do they have employee resource groups? is there a clear HR process for resolving things like this?) but not necessarily to disclose. However, I would ask questions about the job requirements to get a sense of whether it's going to be reasonable for me to do the core functions of the job. Then, when hired, as part of onboarding I'd have a conversation with HR about necessary accommodations. This "vibe check" doesn't always work, but often you'll get a spidey sense of a company that's going to suck, and a culture that's not going to be friendly. Hope this helps!
For the young looking person starting a new position in their career and worried they won't be considered for promotions - talk to your supervisor candidly about what pathways are possible and when promotions can reasonably be expected to happen assuming a good track record is maintained. Each industry is so different with how promotions are handled - some industries expect people to move up incrementally every 3-5 years, but not all are like that. Also boomers love to "mentor" people - regardless of whether or not their help/guidance even still applies to your position, it's often times just a good way to get your foot in the door with someone and ensure that they'll put your name out there when positions open up. If you have a mentor and they aren't helping you network your way into better career opportunities, get a better mentor - no one says you have to only pick 1.
Looooove this podcast! This came at a perfect time 👌🏼❤
I had a job interview last week and I'm supposed to hear back in the next few days but this was very helpful bc i hate my current job and need to leaveee
i’m listening to this ep while at my corporate job. LOVEEEE
after hearing this, introverts are really screwed
Once a hiring manager and i only talked about our love of petting zoos and the baby goats. I was hired and wasn’t very good at the job
AJ was great to listen to!
It’s probably because I’m dutch but the whole segment on how to say something in a corporate way just confuses the hell out of me. It’d be just so annoying to me if people wouldn’t say what they mean and instead use all fancy words to talk around it
Also Dutch and I agree and it often means as well when somebody does have a problem with you, you don’t even know why 💀
For a spilt second, I thought Matt had dyed his hair and beard blond, then the camera panned lol
i've been listening to you guys since you began and i know how Becky and Maggie look like but i imagined Matt and Rainy in a whole different way i am stunned 😅
Hi, HR pro here. I would recommend only speaking to your required accommodations after you have an offer in hand, and before you accept the offer. You'd only offer this information if the accommodations would be required to complete the duties of the role - for example, if you need to listen to music to complete projects as a way to manage your anxiety or ADHD, that can look different for different roles. In a call center role where you have to be on the phone talking to people, that would be hard to manage. As a software engineer doing some coding, less of an issue.
So you want to think about:
How does my requirement impact the role, if at all.
Are my requirements reasonably managed for this position.
I worked in embryology for a while and my mentor told me that hospitals/healthcare settings don't like to hear that you want to move to a certain area, they want to know that you want to work at THAT hospital specifically. I'm not sure if that is true across the board, but it is interesting.
I've been in the same job for almost 11 years now. They really only interviewed people who were qualified and it was literally a vibe check. We're a small company of only 13 people so personalities not clashing is important.
Funnily enough, I *hate* interviews and talking about myself but I've gotten every single job I've ever interviewed for. Haven't gotten an interview for everything I've applied for but once I get my foot in the door...it's over. lol.
Also, as a European the work culture regarding vacation time/work hours in the US will never not baffle me.
I can’t tell you how many people walk out during their lunch break (or sooner) on their first training day at the funeral home I used to work at. I was a trainer and I had people do it to me 😅 I was never bothered by it cause if you can’t handle a day where I’m guiding you through it, you definitely won’t survive problem solving on this job on your own. Usually it’s because people think it’s less work than it is, not not being able to handle the morbidity of it.
I had no idea that Matt went to the U of R! I’m an upcoming senior at the university majoring in psychology. It’s finals week, so this was a nice break from studying.
As a TA person, this is the topic I can relate a loooot.
How do they know I have an interview tomorrow 😅
Good luck in your interview!!!
@@bethurbani3057 thank you 😭
I didn’t know Matt went to U of R!!! ❤️ROCHESTER
To the peace corp person, I’d say the best strategy is to verbalize your goals with your supervisor and tell them explicitly you do want to grow in the agency and ask them what it’ll take to get to the next role! It shows that you are invested and may put you more on their radar and if they are a boomer, I think it shows you’re willing to “put in the work”. Unfortunately, if your supervisor isn’t supportive (I’m lucky this hasn’t happened to me) try finding other allies in your department to mentor you
Very interesting guest.
Side note about what to disclose health wise to interviewers, I have an auditory processing disorder so I have a difficult time processing spoken language especially if questions have more than one part. My processing disorder directly affects my performance during an interview so I might disclose that in the beginning so they know me pausing and asking them to repeat questions isn’t a sign of me not caring or not paying attention but rather because I have a difficult time processing verbal language. Now I also have ADHD and that doesn’t really directly affect my performance in an interview so that is probably something I would leave out.
Haha, love Rainie! Camera Op haha
AAAAAAAAH GILROY GANG?! So inspiring to see amazing people succeed coming from our small lil garlic town
Yea that’s true. People quit because of bad manager not the company 47:33
people can request accommodations prior to interviews at my company
Kentucky would have loved to have had you, Rainie! As long as the job was in Louisville…the rest of the state gets a little problematic lol
UofR represent💙🐝
I am seeing a section on job applications where you are to disclose any disabilities, and they are requiring a dated signature. It might be risky to not mention.
I definitely left a post it to quit but the caveat was the HR lady told me to do that
Love the pod, but would love if you dialed the mic sensitivity down JUST a hair. The mouth sounds were very intense this week
I forgot Matt went to UR! Rochester, NY representation haha
I would not share my disability in job intervjus. I have dylexia, and did experient a bit where I at some intervjus said that I had it, and some where I did not tell. I had some bad experienc at the intervjus where I said I have dyslexia, there were minnimum 1/4 of the intervju was "what I can and cant do", "this job requiers a lot of writing and reading, - you woun't be able to cope with this" and other bs surrownding stigmas of my disability. It was not fun, and I did not get the jobs where I told them I have a disability (even thoug they by law are not alowed to reject me becaus of that).
Kentucky is not THAT bad of a state. We could be way better, but we have a lot of heart. But also, not mad you didn't want to come here either. 😂
Are you aware your description still says
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Does Rachel do the pod cast any more?
I think they havent edited the podcast description yet... Needs an update ;)
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If you mean "Ariel", they are not going to change anything until she makes an official statement.
They did on the channel description and where you can listen to their podcasts. Just not in the description
yaaay!!
I"m sorry but 23 is still very young. you can expect to get a lot of promotions at that age.you're still very green
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Clarification for those who thought referencing bandwidth meant literal internet bandwidth: it doesn't mean that.
Ive might of missed it. What does Becky do? Is she a stay at home wife. If so that is awesome and im jealous
I think now yes, she’s a stay at home plus this podcast on the side.
Some of the most radically progressive folks doing good work for unionizing is coming out of Kentucky, specifically the Appalachian region. Conservatives have gerrymandered the state so voter turnout is grim but please don't shit on the work of grassroots local orgs fighting to save our beautiful state from fascism. I'm proud to be Appalachian and from Eastern Kentucky. :( Makes me sad to see the implied classism on one of my favorite RUclips channels.
Your comments on disability in the workplace really requires a disability advocate to answer this question. You really provide inaccurate information and it can be remarkably harmful! Please don't do this. JFC, your company just went through a HUGE HR issue this past year and ya'll think this is the time to discuss employment searches and law without a qualified expert? Bring in a qualified person to talk about this stuff. This is a very disappointing take ya'll.