Throwing the teachings right back at the old man, and Kratos is so damn proud of him. You can see it in the start when Loki takes the deer to the wolves aswell. There is a smile under that lumberjack beard.
@@Colaschnittchen there are a lot of single married people and orphans with parents. Even if they are alive and present in your life, that doesn't mean that they fulfill their duties. To you as a child or partner. If you have someone, doesn't mean that you are not alone
Some players think Atreus is too brash. He is, but you have to remember he's literally a teenager trying to save his father's life while also keeping his promise not to tell anyone about Ironwood because it would endanger Angrboda. That's some serious pressure for a boy his age.
@@Freethinker_94 He did the right thing too. If Atreus had told Kratos about Ironwood, "Tyr" would've overheard and Angrboda would've been hurt or worse.
@@medalgear654 fake Tyr is way more annoying. And Atreus did amazingly well considering how messy the whole thing got. Atreus is kind and diplomatic with everybody, including the aesir.
@@medalgear654 And I bet you were completely different as a teenager, weren't you? Or were you made to look in a mirror of what your behavior was like at his age and you didn't like what you saw?
@@dabigsuge After all, Atreus of Sparta was known to be a happy Spartan, a nearly unseen trait among his brothers. Our little Atreus is just like that. Happy, curious, and kind. He has his crappy moments, but who doesn't. It also shows that Kratos named him that because Atreus, besides Faye, was his greatest joy.
Kratos is automatically the best parent to have ever existed because he's the only one to have ever admitted straight-up when they were wrong and actually meant it when they apologized to their child.
That's something only mature and few people that became parents do. Really, Kratos in his inhumanity is more human than the majority of humans on this planet.
@@formarotica1419 Call me a cynical person, then. Sadly, there is personal life experience as well as what I've read and heard from other people that has led to me taking such a view of parents.
Because mimir truly cares about him, this game has such a beautiful story and character development, at the end when atreus tells mimir he’s like a second father to him, it’s like man… they’ve been through so many things on their journey, the payoffs this game has are so emotional is hard not to tear up
Mimir is like Atreus’ uncle. He’s kind, patient, and easygoing like an uncle would be. But Mimir’s still not a pushover, and when he yells at Atreus, it’s warranted. Odin destroyed thousands, if not millions of lives, including Mimir and Freya’s, so it makes sense that Atreus hanging out with Odin pisses off Mimir, Freya, and Kratos.
@@william678910 especially if you think about the fact he did NOT train Artreus as a Spartan warrior. Hes afraid that he did wrong in keeping his pureness and innocence and not making him "strong enough" But at the very end, he sees it was the right decision, where he tells him to never shut out those feelings. Its great storytelling.
When the norns said there is no grand design, only the choices they made....when kratos chose to say sorry and learn to trust his son, he defies fate....
Didn’t he also skew some events like killing Magni and Modi since those two were supposed to be alive to fight at Ragnarok? I remember that being the reason why Modi was shitting himself once he saw Kratos had killed Magni. Plus I actually think it’s possible that some of the prophecies that Faye made were Red Herrings to nudge Kratos, Atreus and even Odin in certain directions and the final mural at the ending was what Faye was hoping to happen.
Kratos was supposed to die in atreus hands via soul capture in a marble thing....but when kratos changed for the better, that fate had already changed....if he didnt do it, maybe his fate is set in stone already...
I think its the small changes they made that caused their fates to change. Atreus befriended people from enemy territory that would eventually aid their cause, Kratos then speaks to Thor and reasoned with him instead of continuing the fight, ultimately using the fact that Thrud and Atreus were friends and are fighting together for Thor to fully change his mind. The mural shows Thor killing Kratos, but because of these small changes, they were able to completely subvert their prophecy.
2:27 Throughout the entire game up until this point, Kratos always called him "Atreus" or "Son". Seeing Kratos revert to calling him by the iconic "boi" put everything into perspective.
Kratos really has matured. That apology woulda taken every ounce of his willpower, and was probably tougher than any god he had ever killed. Removing one's own ego is easily anyone's toughest battle. And the way Atreus reminded him back of his own wisdom shows, that the cycle truly did end. They both became better. Even the way they shoulder-hug each other has evolved. In 2018, Kratos genuinely struggled to even place his hands on Atreus' shoulder. Now he's so open, he reaches out for him, and Atreus happily responds. You can just hear Kratos thinking, "AH GET OVER HERE, YA WHIPPERSNAPPER." in just his body language lol
You just forgot one thing, leaving Calliope was the hardest thing he did, we even had a QTE for that saying that Kratos was using all his emotional strenght just to do that
Kratos really is one of the most beautifully written characters there is, to go from such a brute and tough parent to one that encourages their child to follow their own path and that they trust their child with the choices they make, it’s so beautiful
And even in turn, Atreus goes from a whiny mischievous kid to a brave, kind, loyal young man. Maybe still a bit reckless here and there, but he's learning from his mistakes and his father's lessons. I love how it's obvious Kratos is trying to raise Atreus to be a good man. He still flubs it but that's any normal parent as they raise children. Like Atreus said- Just be better. Being sorry doesn't accomplish a whole lot :)
Considering the kind of a person he was in previous games - his 2018 appearence was already some serious progress. Because if he remained the same ball of pure rage he probably would've just died trying to 1 v 1 the entire Norse pantheon.
Kratos told him he was worthy of the name he gave him. One of his closest friends and best Spartans he ever knew. Kratos never seems to lie. He meant this with all he had. How they managed to round off kratos as a character we could relate to..blows my mind. Seriously. Well done.
@@squashmallow2006He did actually lie once. When Atreus asked him if he killed only the deserving ones and Kratos said yes. Even so, he fixed that and told the truth at the end.
When Kratos was able to admit his own mistakes, and Atreus his, finally mustering the strength to ask for Atreus' forgiveness had me in tears. And Atreus with his "don't be sorry, be better." Was a very nice cherry on top of everything. This game had much more development than i would have imagined, a welcome change indeed.
In GoW 2018, Kratos laments that the boy isn't ready, but "neither am I". In this, he finally admits to Atreus that even he wasn't prepared at all for the things that happened. But Atreus hits him with that "Don't be sorry, be better." Perfect.
It hits harder the more you think about it. The first time we see Atreus apologize to Kratos it is that line. Now, the first time Kratos has said “I am sorry” to literally anyone (over the span of five games!!) that same line goes right back at him.
Kratos: don’t go to Asgard Mimir: don’t go to Asgard Freya: don’t go to Asgard Tyr (Odin): don’t go to Asgard Brok and Sindri: don’t go to Asgard Atreus: everyone’s wrong but me
Which is what Heimdall said, hes not there to help people hes there to help himself, prove himself a great warrior like his father, Atreus means well but he makes his decision through arrogance most of the time, thats why Odin thought he could manipulate Atreus to get to his own goals.
@@filipelopes4586 Yep I agree with you. Love gow since I was a kid. Kratos does not want Atreus to be end up like him, a murderous monster. They’ve been through a lot. Enjoy the game and kick some asses
Kratos is dad of the century for looking his child in the eye and truthfully apologizing. It’s ok to tell our kids when we’re in the wrong. Then that little smile after Atreus says “Don’t be sorry, be better” this isn’t a video game, this is art, poetry and storytelling at its very best.
It’s like at that moment Kratos knows his lessons are sticking in Atreus’s mind, and that he’s becoming the wise warrior he wants him to be Such a lovely moment all around
I love the Atreus maturity, admitting he's wrong as well, I remember I was once in a group, didn't go too well but by the end we made peace. Just like this, seeing the pain we caused each other, acknowledging it and admitting we were both wrong in one way or another, and we forgave. I still avoid groups, I am the one person I can't forgive for it all, and I prefer not to be anyone's burden (also can't be bothered) but this reminds me of that
You can actually feel and see a burden lifted from his heart just from those 30-seconds from when he took a breath to say I'm sorry to when he gave that little smile when he is told to be better. When he stood up you can see it - he became a better man in just a minutes time. How powerful confession and forgiveness is! It changes the spirit of man quicker than any drug or medicine ever could. To put it simple, I could see him transform. I'm sure it was moments like these that actually changed Chris Judge himself as he became Kratos as an actor. It literally made him a better man. Now that... is passion. That is what real game and movie developers give their fans. That is how you do it right. Edit: This scene is in my top 3 faves. Also when he first rested in bed, took of his armor, and felt his stomach wound is another. And when he saw his prophecy at the end are my favorite parts. This game wasn't just a game or a movie. It was an expression of real life development. I've felt this in my life as well this year...
Nah, Zeus was not the father he needed. Zeus was manipulative and abusive. Kratos finally managed to completely shake his father's legacy and break the cycle of the gods by being a better person than who he came from.@@extremlylongnamethatyouwon1358
3:07 Nice little detail, but Kratos slightly fidgets with his Axe moving it back and forth; a subconscious thing we do when we feel nervous, anxious, or guilty. These subtly mannerisms really break down how much humanity Kratos has gained these past two games
I like how realistic Kratos and Atreus' relationship is now that they've both gotten older. Kratos is the classic example of an annoyed, but also overprotective dad, and Atreus is old enough to where he's not afraid to mouth off to his dad when he's angry, and he wants some personal space and freedom like any teenager would. And the scene when Kratos and Atreus say their good-byes, it sort of makes me think of a kid getting ready to move to a new place or go to college and their parents being both sad but also proud that their kids are leaving the nest. God of War has always been a deep, heart-breaking, and emotionally powerful franchise, and it gets even better through every game.
What I love most about this is it’s not just a simple callback, it’s Artreus using his fathers own teaching but in a way to express he has learned from his father lesson. This game should have won GOTY
Both of them acknowledged their faults. Atreus learned to not to take on the world alone and Kratos learned to believe in his son and give him room to grow
You can tell the scenes where Christopher was on the verge of tears, or actually crying. He's the type of person whose lower lip starts to tremble when he's trying to hold his tears back, or when he can't. You can pinpoint the moment it happens in this scene. It's when Atreus tells him "I need to know you'll be okay without me"
Older, emotional, apologetic Kratos is amazing. What a way to pay off a series of games meant only to appeal to teenagers with egotrip, powertrip, and angsty masculinity. It doesn't feel out of place, and it feels earned.
Many of those teenagers are now fathers. SM knew that their fanbase had grown up and so they gave them a game for people that had grown up. Such an emotionally mature decision by the devteam, rather than appealing to the old fantasies from the fanbase of 15 years ago they appealed to the fanbase as it is, as the years had changed them. Whoever made that decision is legitimately a genius
This. There was just so much miscommunication. Atreus never felt he could go to Kratos because as we see, when he does find out he just tries to shut it down. When they do a side mission later on in Alfheim, Atreus seems genuinely surprised Kratos just wants to spend time with him. Seems like for the last few years all they do is train. Kratos keeps the secret of his prophesied death from him and became overprotective.
In a time we're things like masculinity and fatherhood is so often demeaned by Western entertainment, culture and news, it's refreshing to see the strength of a father and sons relationship being built.
3:16 just to see the progress Kratos has been through is inspiring. Even if it's fictional doesn't mean I can't make it true and apply it to my own life.
5:20 I keep coming back to this scene every so often. Giving Kratos a full beard was not only a great design for the character, befitting of the new mythology, but it acts as a way of making his facial emotions ambiguous. I can only think there's a wobbly chin going on under that beard, like Kratos is about to cry. It makes his character so much more interesting.
We can't overlooked the fact that atreus screw up and should be humble enough to apologize as well for always going ahead of himself and never thinking logically about his decisions. But he has to live with his mistakes and stop being so self righteous
A Father's love will be the most powerful thing in the world, while a Mother's love is the most truthful thing in the world, Seeing Kratos as a Father, losing his self when he is not with his son is almost the saddest thing you can imagine, even though I don't have a ps5 to play this game but by watching Chris Smoove's walkthrough of this game, I've learned so much as a Son to my Father/Mother, I learned that we children will always needs the guide of a parent whenever you are or what we are doing, and always check on your father/mother make them sure they are alright despite you are not with them or with them, and that's would be the greatest gift that we could give to our parents, we are so lucky that by just checking on them making sure they are alright telling them we love them we are making them the happiest person with that simple gesture and language. No money or anything, Just love of a child.
the first scene is framed and written so damn masterfully. atreus' reactions in particular are flawlessly executed---the resentment from kratos accusing him of going to odin, him feeling like everyone is ganging up on him when freya, tyr, sindri, and brok goes against him, and the ultimate burst of anger that causes him to flee
I remember playing as Kratos back in the Greek Saga, playing as a monster created by gods who burned innocent people alive just to solve a puzzle so that he could progress on his quest for vengeance. Now, as I play Ragnarok, that same man labeled as a monster makes me and my wife cry from witnessing him be one of the best dads in gaming, apologizing to a boy who has only seen a fraction of what his father once was. This game is so beautiful, it makes you forget who Kratos was in the past as he has become a better person who fights to survive, not for vengeance or hatred.
You know, i think I get why these two are such good characters for a father and son story. They're each what every father and son fear to be. Kratos is angry, distrustful, and controlling. He feels as though nothing good can happen unless he commands it, that his son isn't ready. He becomes distrustful because of how he was treated and, in the end, realizes he's doing the same thing that HIS father did, distrusting his son. His love blinds Kratos to the truth, that Atreus is more ready than he thinks. Atreus is the prodigal son, in this case. He is angry at his father, he feels he is ready to be without him, but inexperience clouds his judgement and he realizes he needs his father more than he realizes.
Well there's small faults to this. Kratos's father (Zeus) didn't love him and was more worried about a prophecy and his own safety than kratos. Zeus didn't have trust issues of kratos because he didn't see kratos anymore than a weapon. The Atreus one is spot on though
My dad past away 8 year ago i could say good bye to him properly since that day that thing haunts me. I miss my dad and watching this part of the game how kratos said all that and apologized to atreus..my god man always hits me and make me cry 😢💔
if you have a bad father, you are under no obligation to forgive him, even if he acknowledges how he did you wrong. If you are a father, the prospect of forgiveness should not justify the things you have done or might do against your children. Treat them well, treat them right, from the start or as early as you can
In retrospect, "Tyr" IMMEDIATELY going for the "He'll only cloud your mind" Line is genius for two reasons -Odin knowing that Atreus would assume he could handle it -The others trust "Tyr's" words (and this helps to keep them thinking he was actively being wise) because... well, they're true words. It could just be a passive decision, but retrospectively I'd like to think it was Odin's way of being another step ahead in even his smallest role as he spied on them.
Kratos rarely compliments anyone. So hearing any compliment from him holds tremendous weight. Especially that compliment about Atreus living up to his namesake.
5:50 I am absolutely convinced that THIS was the moment Kratos knew that Atreus was ready to be independent (That, or was REALLY close too it, he just needed to see Atreus face down a major conflict, i.e. Ragnarok to really seal the deal)
Kratos’s body language here man kills me. Him having to sit down, barley looking at atreus. He clutches his axe trying to soothe himself. He looks so small and scared. I never thought I’d see Kratos in this situation, so vulnerable, wearing his heart on his sleeve and it’s beautiful.
All Atreus is wanted is to help people he just wanted to protect his father you just wanted to stop Odin from hurting everybody else and that's a great brave kid right there kratos should be proud for the man that his son become
being a single father, it hit Home really hard when atreus said "i need to know you'll be okay without me" just thinking of parting ways with My daugther is hard... Kratos is a really good dad
i think this is the first like AAA game that tackled "being a better person" in such a good way. I like that this game makes these characters not only realise their issues, but do it in a natural way. I like that this series has pivoted to being a better person. dont get me wrong I like other stories that are about other deeper subjects, but the simple nature about a person changing and becoming a better human just touches home a lot. every one of us is flawed, aspects that we shift blame to others and not look at ourselves. be better, not as in "try harder to appease", but be better to yourself.
I like the little hugs they give each other. For Kratos that is more affection than any parental figure has given him his entire life, and he routinely gives it to Atreus.
Kratos own insecurities and previous failures are what pushed him to making mistakes but I love that about this story that he isn’t perfect but even Atreus acknowledges he was forgetting his dads teachings and was also making mistakes. This dynamic between a parent and child is so accurate and wholesome that they come together in a way that legit makes sense. Atreus making the promise to listen to his dad when he’s not there while Kratos remember and acknowledge his son when he isn’t there is perfect. I love that also Atreus speaking up and being wise and mature made Kratos get in his feels and apologize while Atreus then reminds him of exactly who he is with the dont be sorry be better line. Ah this game is fucking perfect.
Alright Atreus may be distrustful towards Kratos for keeping secrets, or babysitting him around (which wouldn't be wrong because he's like, 13?) but he doesn't even trust Mimir? Or Sindri? And props to Kratos for tanking the "a**hole" insult. Man (or god) has really grown into a much calmer person.
When atreus said “don’t be sorry father, be better” he looked at him like “that’s my boy” this games story is so awesome imo
He finally smiled!! Like happy smile, not scoffing or insulting smirk...
Throwing the teachings right back at the old man, and Kratos is so damn proud of him. You can see it in the start when Loki takes the deer to the wolves aswell. There is a smile under that lumberjack beard.
Whats his time stamp?
@@fernald2201Yeah but it still looked more like a smirk insulting one or not
I cri evitime Kratos smiled
"I am Sorry," in just 3 words Kratos has done more than millions and millions of real fathers across the world throughout history
All parents have children, but many children don’t have parents
@@Colaschnittchen Damn. Well said
@@Colaschnittchen there are a lot of single married people and orphans with parents. Even if they are alive and present in your life, that doesn't mean that they fulfill their duties. To you as a child or partner. If you have someone, doesn't mean that you are not alone
Many of them are all, “Never apologize. It shows WEAKNESS and an unwillingness to defend what you believe in.”
Whaaat? No way. Parents may be as well wrong sometimes, but they usually admit it
Some players think Atreus is too brash. He is, but you have to remember he's literally a teenager trying to save his father's life while also keeping his promise not to tell anyone about Ironwood because it would endanger Angrboda. That's some serious pressure for a boy his age.
Yep alot of us was like this
@@Freethinker_94 He did the right thing too. If Atreus had told Kratos about Ironwood, "Tyr" would've overheard and Angrboda would've been hurt or worse.
any excuse for "he's a teenager" is just an excuse. He's literally the most annoying character in the game.
@@medalgear654 fake Tyr is way more annoying. And Atreus did amazingly well considering how messy the whole thing got.
Atreus is kind and diplomatic with everybody, including the aesir.
@@medalgear654 And I bet you were completely different as a teenager, weren't you? Or were you made to look in a mirror of what your behavior was like at his age and you didn't like what you saw?
"You have grown into a warrior worthy of your namesake..."
Considering the story of Atreus from Sparta, that is an incredible compliment
Such beautiful dialogue man, I completely forgot he named him after his spartan. I thought he was talking about the name Loki at first
@@dabigsuge After all, Atreus of Sparta was known to be a happy Spartan, a nearly unseen trait among his brothers. Our little Atreus is just like that. Happy, curious, and kind. He has his crappy moments, but who doesn't. It also shows that Kratos named him that because Atreus, besides Faye, was his greatest joy.
I bet Kratos was super proud when Atreus ripped off the wings of a Valkyrie. Good on him
@@squashmallow2006 there’s a theory that he was kratos last soldier
@@flaqiy Nope. That theory was disproved long back.
Kratos is automatically the best parent to have ever existed because he's the only one to have ever admitted straight-up when they were wrong and actually meant it when they apologized to their child.
That's something only mature and few people that became parents do. Really, Kratos in his inhumanity is more human than the majority of humans on this planet.
Yes.. kratos inhuman power include his power to ask for apology as parent.
then you'll like superman and lois
Discipline of a soldier... One who does his best to be better...
@@formarotica1419 Call me a cynical person, then. Sadly, there is personal life experience as well as what I've read and heard from other people that has led to me taking such a view of parents.
“I need to know you’ll be okay without me,” was some next level adult-conversation shit I wasn’t prepared for. That hit hard.
Dude Mimir was on point with his dialogue in the first scene. Not used to him yelling like that, those lines gave me chills.
Because mimir truly cares about him, this game has such a beautiful story and character development, at the end when atreus tells mimir he’s like a second father to him, it’s like man… they’ve been through so many things on their journey, the payoffs this game has are so emotional is hard not to tear up
@@HectorReyes-lm7xpyeah, Mimir is like a second dad(Uncle) Atreus. Even Kratos is being more open to Mimir like they’re real “brothers”
Mimir is like Atreus’ uncle. He’s kind, patient, and easygoing like an uncle would be. But Mimir’s still not a pushover, and when he yells at Atreus, it’s warranted. Odin destroyed thousands, if not millions of lives, including Mimir and Freya’s, so it makes sense that Atreus hanging out with Odin pisses off Mimir, Freya, and Kratos.
Mimir parenting Atreus was just hilarious to me. Damned head! He's one of my favorite characters
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I love how he clings to the axe as if he is holding Faye for strength
You can also pick up on his nervous energy and doubts as he has a heart to heart with his son. Kratos has done damn good as a single father
Kratos opened up which is something really hard for a spartan like him to do, especially on that level.
@@william678910 especially if you think about the fact he did NOT train Artreus as a Spartan warrior.
Hes afraid that he did wrong in keeping his pureness and innocence and not making him "strong enough"
But at the very end, he sees it was the right decision, where he tells him to never shut out those feelings.
Its great storytelling.
@@brosephstinson1297 just like Týr
When the norns said there is no grand design, only the choices they made....when kratos chose to say sorry and learn to trust his son, he defies fate....
I mean yea but he did kill heimdall so they were sorta right :/
@@smol1211 He literally gave him every chance to walk away
Didn’t he also skew some events like killing Magni and Modi since those two were supposed to be alive to fight at Ragnarok? I remember that being the reason why Modi was shitting himself once he saw Kratos had killed Magni.
Plus I actually think it’s possible that some of the prophecies that Faye made were Red Herrings to nudge Kratos, Atreus and even Odin in certain directions and the final mural at the ending was what Faye was hoping to happen.
Kratos was supposed to die in atreus hands via soul capture in a marble thing....but when kratos changed for the better, that fate had already changed....if he didnt do it, maybe his fate is set in stone already...
I think its the small changes they made that caused their fates to change. Atreus befriended people from enemy territory that would eventually aid their cause, Kratos then speaks to Thor and reasoned with him instead of continuing the fight, ultimately using the fact that Thrud and Atreus were friends and are fighting together for Thor to fully change his mind. The mural shows Thor killing Kratos, but because of these small changes, they were able to completely subvert their prophecy.
2:27
Throughout the entire game up until this point, Kratos always called him "Atreus" or "Son". Seeing Kratos revert to calling him by the iconic "boi" put everything into perspective.
Kratos nearly pulled out the belts of chaos on Atreus 😮😳
@@mlgbats436 oh no
@@mlgbats436 bruh if it was Faye, she'd bring out her frozen chancla
@@dragonrider1736 lmafo
@@dragonrider1736 that frozen chancla is with Kratos now.
I swear Brok has the best lines of everyone on Kratos' team.
Atreus: *transforms*
Everyone Else: ?!
Brok: WAT DAFAWK?!?! 💀💀💀💀
Brok does have a way with swear words XD
@@neodecade15 I think he related to Samuel l Jackson, because bruh he has that month😂
facts
The fact he calls the Odin "All Fucker" and Thor "Big'Ol'Idiot" is the best thing about this game......
I mean how'd you react if your friend/ surrogate nephew turned into a 7ft bear before your eyes
Kratos really has matured. That apology woulda taken every ounce of his willpower, and was probably tougher than any god he had ever killed. Removing one's own ego is easily anyone's toughest battle. And the way Atreus reminded him back of his own wisdom shows, that the cycle truly did end. They both became better. Even the way they shoulder-hug each other has evolved. In 2018, Kratos genuinely struggled to even place his hands on Atreus' shoulder. Now he's so open, he reaches out for him, and Atreus happily responds. You can just hear Kratos thinking, "AH GET OVER HERE, YA WHIPPERSNAPPER." in just his body language lol
You just forgot one thing, leaving Calliope was the hardest thing he did, we even had a QTE for that saying that Kratos was using all his emotional strenght just to do that
@@xteminadorx001 Shhh, don't remind me of that. Certain moments are better forgotten for good reason.
@@squashmallow2006 that is a important part in Kratos character
Kratos has always been mature
@@li_yankeeking5478 no...
Kratos really is one of the most beautifully written characters there is, to go from such a brute and tough parent to one that encourages their child to follow their own path and that they trust their child with the choices they make, it’s so beautiful
And even in turn, Atreus goes from a whiny mischievous kid to a brave, kind, loyal young man. Maybe still a bit reckless here and there, but he's learning from his mistakes and his father's lessons. I love how it's obvious Kratos is trying to raise Atreus to be a good man. He still flubs it but that's any normal parent as they raise children. Like Atreus said- Just be better. Being sorry doesn't accomplish a whole lot :)
He wasn't that much of a brute.
He tried to be a family man in the old games, but we only got hints of it.
@@TsukabuNosoratori2 You impart the words of the wise, and I thank you for that.
@@smileyman1721 we had some hints of it from 1,2, ghost, and 3. Ascension and chains showed that side of kratos more
Considering the kind of a person he was in previous games - his 2018 appearence was already some serious progress. Because if he remained the same ball of pure rage he probably would've just died trying to 1 v 1 the entire Norse pantheon.
Kratos told him he was worthy of the name he gave him. One of his closest friends and best Spartans he ever knew. Kratos never seems to lie. He meant this with all he had. How they managed to round off kratos as a character we could relate to..blows my mind. Seriously. Well done.
Kratos never has lied. At worst, he only withholds the truth like his godly lineage. But he's very honest and laconic.
@@squashmallow2006He did actually lie once. When Atreus asked him if he killed only the deserving ones and Kratos said yes. Even so, he fixed that and told the truth at the end.
When Kratos was able to admit his own mistakes, and Atreus his, finally mustering the strength to ask for Atreus' forgiveness had me in tears. And Atreus with his "don't be sorry, be better." Was a very nice cherry on top of everything. This game had much more development than i would have imagined, a welcome change indeed.
I’ve literally been crying about it since yesterday. Wasn’t expecting to hit me as hard but it did. I can’t wait to play more of this tonight
In GoW 2018, Kratos laments that the boy isn't ready, but "neither am I". In this, he finally admits to Atreus that even he wasn't prepared at all for the things that happened.
But Atreus hits him with that "Don't be sorry, be better."
Perfect.
Me to buddy
It hits harder the more you think about it. The first time we see Atreus apologize to Kratos it is that line. Now, the first time Kratos has said “I am sorry” to literally anyone (over the span of five games!!) that same line goes right back at him.
Kratos accompanied me since I was a single young man to this day, a father of 5. From god of war 1 to ragnarok. Seeing this, bring me to tears.
Same to me, but with the mural at the end of the game, seeing kratos's path. Made me cry 😭 he honestly deserves that path, worshipped and praise.
5 kids goddamn poor woman
@@OZZOZZ slsry? Ahh u guys are intolerable even if this was a joke , it's not funny
@@OZZOZZ bro's gonna push us all the way up to 9 billion
Zeus, is that you?!
Seeing Kratos smile when Atreus told him, "be better," was heartwarming.
Bro I shat myself for Atreus when Kratos yelled boy!
😂😂😂😂 bruh
ANSWER ME
@@grandcanyon-fu9zt ANSWER ME BOY!!!!
As an expecting father I swear I’ll act like this if I have to 😂
Belt of chaos 😂😂
The “Be better quote” at the end not only aged like fine wine, but it also hits right at home.
I think it's also funny how you can noticce the moment Atreus remembers about when Kratos said the same thing to him
My mans reaction to that "Dont be sorry, be better"
He taught boi well
Kratos: don’t go to Asgard
Mimir: don’t go to Asgard
Freya: don’t go to Asgard
Tyr (Odin): don’t go to Asgard
Brok and Sindri: don’t go to Asgard
Atreus: everyone’s wrong but me
No comment I'll fix this
Which is what Heimdall said, hes not there to help people hes there to help himself, prove himself a great warrior like his father, Atreus means well but he makes his decision through arrogance most of the time, thats why Odin thought he could manipulate Atreus to get to his own goals.
Like any teenager going through a rebellious phase. That and lacking any interaction with people his own age.
Nice to meet you Sorry. I am BOI!
Lmao Odin-Tyr just went along because he knew it would make him more mad
Nothing impresses me more than a parent who can admit they were wrong in front of their child.
This game has become amazing. Now it teaches everyone family values.
It is even more impressive considering this is the guy who previously killed anyone even remotely related to him. Kratos has come a very long way
@@filipelopes4586 Yep I agree with you. Love gow since I was a kid. Kratos does not want Atreus to be end up like him, a murderous monster. They’ve been through a lot. Enjoy the game and kick some asses
Me 2. My bestfriend introduced me to gow back in 2007. Time flies fast. I will. I learned many things from gow : we must be better for the future.
“You have become a warrior worthy of your namesake”
That was deep when you remember the story of Atreus from the last game. The soul of the group.
Kratos is dad of the century for looking his child in the eye and truthfully apologizing. It’s ok to tell our kids when we’re in the wrong. Then that little smile after Atreus says “Don’t be sorry, be better” this isn’t a video game, this is art, poetry and storytelling at its very best.
It’s like at that moment Kratos knows his lessons are sticking in Atreus’s mind, and that he’s becoming the wise warrior he wants him to be
Such a lovely moment all around
I love the Atreus maturity, admitting he's wrong as well, I remember I was once in a group, didn't go too well but by the end we made peace. Just like this, seeing the pain we caused each other, acknowledging it and admitting we were both wrong in one way or another, and we forgave. I still avoid groups, I am the one person I can't forgive for it all, and I prefer not to be anyone's burden (also can't be bothered) but this reminds me of that
Letting go of the wannabe badass stuff will help you grow too
@@theflyingegg3557 no bada** here, simply acknowledging where I'm at, but thx for inputting on a topic you have no knowledge on
@@alexwalker3229 I have knowledge of the fact that your wording was cringey. You know what you were doing. Agree with the sentiment though.
You can actually feel and see a burden lifted from his heart just from those 30-seconds from when he took a breath to say I'm sorry to when he gave that little smile when he is told to be better. When he stood up you can see it - he became a better man in just a minutes time. How powerful confession and forgiveness is! It changes the spirit of man quicker than any drug or medicine ever could. To put it simple, I could see him transform. I'm sure it was moments like these that actually changed Chris Judge himself as he became Kratos as an actor. It literally made him a better man. Now that... is passion. That is what real game and movie developers give their fans. That is how you do it right.
Edit: This scene is in my top 3 faves. Also when he first rested in bed, took of his armor, and felt his stomach wound is another. And when he saw his prophecy at the end are my favorite parts. This game wasn't just a game or a movie. It was an expression of real life development. I've felt this in my life as well this year...
It wasn't a little smile. It was a big one. The beard just hid it.
As an OG of GOW,
I literally cried here,
Kratos has changed so so much and became the father he never even had.
"he became the father he never had" bro he MADE it that he never had. 💀
Nah, Zeus was not the father he needed. Zeus was manipulative and abusive. Kratos finally managed to completely shake his father's legacy and break the cycle of the gods by being a better person than who he came from.@@extremlylongnamethatyouwon1358
In 2018
Atreus: I am sorry
Kratos: Do not be sorry, be better
In 2022
Kratos: I am sorry
Atreus: Do not be sorry, be better
@UnWaifu shit my keyboard
Kratos be like: that’s my boy
There is a quote from Superman that said: “The son becomes the father and the father the son.” And it reminded me of Kratos and Atreus.
Looking straight into the eyes while apologizing... such a Kratos thing to do I swear. A proper warrior.
I love how Kratos looked at Mimir. He was genuinely surprised that Mimir was defending him, too.
That small smile Kratos did after being told to be better
4:19 The way Atreus smiles when Kratos acknowledges him as a warrior says a lot. Imagine being considered a warrior by him!
When the best of the best acknowledges you, there’s no better feeling
Especially when that same guy is your dad
This is indication he clearly is not the monster he use to be. Owning to your shit and learning from it takes a lot of courage and humility.
I love how Kratos holds up Mimir after atreus calls him an asshole like "you seeing this shit?"
3:07 Nice little detail, but Kratos slightly fidgets with his Axe moving it back and forth; a subconscious thing we do when we feel nervous, anxious, or guilty. These subtly mannerisms really break down how much humanity Kratos has gained these past two games
2:27
A big glowing circle just appeared over Atreus’s head.
He should've been better, not sorry.
Kratos: BOI!
atreus: SHITSHITSHITSHITSHITSHITSHIT!
That was the first smile that ever graced his face since who knows when...
Kratos: don't be sorry, be better.
*Atreus will remember that*
Atreus: don't be sorry father. Be better.
*Kratos will remember that*
It's "Do not be sorry, be better."
I like how realistic Kratos and Atreus' relationship is now that they've both gotten older. Kratos is the classic example of an annoyed, but also overprotective dad, and Atreus is old enough to where he's not afraid to mouth off to his dad when he's angry, and he wants some personal space and freedom like any teenager would. And the scene when Kratos and Atreus say their good-byes, it sort of makes me think of a kid getting ready to move to a new place or go to college and their parents being both sad but also proud that their kids are leaving the nest. God of War has always been a deep, heart-breaking, and emotionally powerful franchise, and it gets even better through every game.
What I love most about this is it’s not just a simple callback, it’s Artreus using his fathers own teaching but in a way to express he has learned from his father lesson. This game should have won GOTY
Nah the story in 2018 was better and Elden Ring was INSANE!!!
Both of them acknowledged their faults. Atreus learned to not to take on the world alone and Kratos learned to believe in his son and give him room to grow
The only time I’ve seen a good smile man I feel so good to know I’ve been apart of the amazing transition of kratos
Atreus: "I'll listen for you voice in my head, when you're not there."
In Atreus' head: "Boi."
In all the God Of War series i played, that's the first time i ever seen Kratos smile. And Actually, it's refreshing.
Nope. Thats the third time he smiled.
You can tell the scenes where Christopher was on the verge of tears, or actually crying. He's the type of person whose lower lip starts to tremble when he's trying to hold his tears back, or when he can't. You can pinpoint the moment it happens in this scene. It's when Atreus tells him "I need to know you'll be okay without me"
5:49 made me tear up in a happy way
Older, emotional, apologetic Kratos is amazing. What a way to pay off a series of games meant only to appeal to teenagers with egotrip, powertrip, and angsty masculinity. It doesn't feel out of place, and it feels earned.
Many of those teenagers are now fathers. SM knew that their fanbase had grown up and so they gave them a game for people that had grown up. Such an emotionally mature decision by the devteam, rather than appealing to the old fantasies from the fanbase of 15 years ago they appealed to the fanbase as it is, as the years had changed them. Whoever made that decision is legitimately a genius
Dawhh, he's always been a GREAT father, he was right and Atreus was rushin, he was just concerned, but also tbh Atreus ain't a baby no more
This. There was just so much miscommunication. Atreus never felt he could go to Kratos because as we see, when he does find out he just tries to shut it down. When they do a side mission later on in Alfheim, Atreus seems genuinely surprised Kratos just wants to spend time with him. Seems like for the last few years all they do is train. Kratos keeps the secret of his prophesied death from him and became overprotective.
The really sad part is that they both knew Kratos was prophesied to die and they both kept it quiet to avoid hurting the other one.@@erintoney7137
In a time we're things like masculinity and fatherhood is so often demeaned by Western entertainment, culture and news, it's refreshing to see the strength of a father and sons relationship being built.
2018 and Ragnarok don't feel like two separate games. They feel like two halves of a perfect story.
"Don't be sorry father. Be better." My dad used to tell me to be better when I screwed up and was apologizing to him.
3:16 just to see the progress Kratos has been through is inspiring. Even if it's fictional doesn't mean I can't make it true and apply it to my own life.
Yikes if you’ve got Mimir pulling that tone out then you’ve done really fucked up 😂
Goes from bloodlusting rampaging war god to humble father.
This is the best arc ever man.
Odin telling us that Odin will cloud your mind is hilarious, like even Odin knows he’s an asshole
LMFAO
5:20
I keep coming back to this scene every so often. Giving Kratos a full beard was not only a great design for the character, befitting of the new mythology, but it acts as a way of making his facial emotions ambiguous. I can only think there's a wobbly chin going on under that beard, like Kratos is about to cry. It makes his character so much more interesting.
We can't overlooked the fact that atreus screw up and should be humble enough to apologize as well for always going ahead of himself and never thinking logically about his decisions. But he has to live with his mistakes and stop being so self righteous
A Father's love will be the most powerful thing in the world, while a Mother's love is the most truthful thing in the world, Seeing Kratos as a Father, losing his self when he is not with his son is almost the saddest thing you can imagine, even though I don't have a ps5 to play this game but by watching Chris Smoove's walkthrough of this game, I've learned so much as a Son to my Father/Mother, I learned that we children will always needs the guide of a parent whenever you are or what we are doing, and always check on your father/mother make them sure they are alright despite you are not with them or with them, and that's would be the greatest gift that we could give to our parents, we are so lucky that by just checking on them making sure they are alright telling them we love them we are making them the happiest person with that simple gesture and language. No money or anything, Just love of a child.
Thought people in the west get separated from their parents as soon as they turn 18. You've family values too?
the first scene is framed and written so damn masterfully. atreus' reactions in particular are flawlessly executed---the resentment from kratos accusing him of going to odin, him feeling like everyone is ganging up on him when freya, tyr, sindri, and brok goes against him, and the ultimate burst of anger that causes him to flee
This is only time in the game katros called atrues boy
0:46 i love how mimir acts like a mom here😂
I remember playing as Kratos back in the Greek Saga, playing as a monster created by gods who burned innocent people alive just to solve a puzzle so that he could progress on his quest for vengeance. Now, as I play Ragnarok, that same man labeled as a monster makes me and my wife cry from witnessing him be one of the best dads in gaming, apologizing to a boy who has only seen a fraction of what his father once was. This game is so beautiful, it makes you forget who Kratos was in the past as he has become a better person who fights to survive, not for vengeance or hatred.
This is the moment where Kratos and Atreus breaks the prophecy.
You know, i think I get why these two are such good characters for a father and son story. They're each what every father and son fear to be.
Kratos is angry, distrustful, and controlling. He feels as though nothing good can happen unless he commands it, that his son isn't ready. He becomes distrustful because of how he was treated and, in the end, realizes he's doing the same thing that HIS father did, distrusting his son. His love blinds Kratos to the truth, that Atreus is more ready than he thinks.
Atreus is the prodigal son, in this case. He is angry at his father, he feels he is ready to be without him, but inexperience clouds his judgement and he realizes he needs his father more than he realizes.
Well there's small faults to this. Kratos's father (Zeus) didn't love him and was more worried about a prophecy and his own safety than kratos. Zeus didn't have trust issues of kratos because he didn't see kratos anymore than a weapon.
The Atreus one is spot on though
@@livinglegend9709 I mean, yeah. I didn't mean to imply Zeus loved Kratos but that it was his paranoia and distrust that caused his downfall.
This is a conversation that Kratos desires to have with Calliope and his wife. Apologize for failing them and what he did.
My dad past away 8 year ago i could say good bye to him properly since that day that thing haunts me.
I miss my dad and watching this part of the game how kratos said all that and apologized to atreus..my god man always hits me and make me cry 😢💔
Damn, I just noticed Kratos fingers clip into each other when he apologies. Now I can't unsee it on a great scene.
I love that smile Kratos gives when Atreus uses his phrase. Its honestly so heart warming
if you have a bad father, you are under no obligation to forgive him, even if he acknowledges how he did you wrong. If you are a father, the prospect of forgiveness should not justify the things you have done or might do against your children. Treat them well, treat them right, from the start or as early as you can
0:46 DAMN, son!
It was touching to see it not presented as Kratos one sidedly screwing up but both realizing they had made mistakes and trying to overcome them.
4:20
I love how Atreus smiles when Kratos says he has grown into a warrior.
I was like looking at Tyr everytime when Atreus says he wanna go to Asgard and meet Odin but he's right infront of him the whole time lol
In retrospect, "Tyr" IMMEDIATELY going for the "He'll only cloud your mind" Line is genius for two reasons
-Odin knowing that Atreus would assume he could handle it
-The others trust "Tyr's" words (and this helps to keep them thinking he was actively being wise) because... well, they're true words.
It could just be a passive decision, but retrospectively I'd like to think it was Odin's way of being another step ahead in even his smallest role as he spied on them.
Without a doubt, the best scene in the whole game to me. And there has been great scenes. But this one… it just hits the spot right where you need it
Kratos rarely compliments anyone. So hearing any compliment from him holds tremendous weight. Especially that compliment about Atreus living up to his namesake.
Gaaaaaah I'm getting misty eyed here damn it ;^;
You raised the boy right Kratos, I'm so proud of you ;^;
1:20 you can see Odin smirking in the background when atreus says he wanted to go to Asgard
I just saw this part and I literally had to wipe a few stray tears from my eyes. A truly beautiful scene
One of the best representations of father hood put to screen.
Unlike Last of Us
Joel was a good stand in dad for Ellie.
@@2012banksnb Then the second game pissed it all away for shock value and a run-of-the-mill 'revenge is bad' lesson.
@@HelghastTrooper GOD OF WAR handles the "revenge is bad" bs better IN ALL GAMES for crying lmapo
The original TLOU was a good representation of that. But tlou2 not so much
Sorry I meant TLOU2 , number one is a very well done story. Gameplay is mehh
Atreus is the one kid who can actually say “my dad can beat your dad”
5:50 I am absolutely convinced that THIS was the moment Kratos knew that Atreus was ready to be independent (That, or was REALLY close too it, he just needed to see Atreus face down a major conflict, i.e. Ragnarok to really seal the deal)
Kratos’s body language here man kills me. Him having to sit down, barley looking at atreus. He clutches his axe trying to soothe himself. He looks so small and scared. I never thought I’d see Kratos in this situation, so vulnerable, wearing his heart on his sleeve and it’s beautiful.
All Atreus is wanted is to help people he just wanted to protect his father you just wanted to stop Odin from hurting everybody else and that's a great brave kid right there kratos should be proud for the man that his son become
I think this is one of the only times kratos ever smiled
He also smiled when he shared a bottle of Greek wine with younger Atreus
And he smiled when Atreus got the deer@@zillafire101
The little smile from "Tyr" as Atreus says he wants to go to Asgard...
angry mimir starts showing his armstrong lol
2:27 BOY!
being a single father, it hit Home really hard when atreus said "i need to know you'll be okay without me"
just thinking of parting ways with My daugther is hard...
Kratos is a really good dad
These types of conversations end generational traumas and curses.
i think this is the first like AAA game that tackled "being a better person" in such a good way. I like that this game makes these characters not only realise their issues, but do it in a natural way. I like that this series has pivoted to being a better person. dont get me wrong I like other stories that are about other deeper subjects, but the simple nature about a person changing and becoming a better human just touches home a lot. every one of us is flawed, aspects that we shift blame to others and not look at ourselves. be better, not as in "try harder to appease", but be better to yourself.
I like the little hugs they give each other. For Kratos that is more affection than any parental figure has given him his entire life, and he routinely gives it to Atreus.
I started crying when Atreus said be better to his father. I can imagine how proud he was to his son after everything they been through together.
one of the best moment i never tired watching it , its so beautifully written a father and son love 🤩😍
Kratos own insecurities and previous failures are what pushed him to making mistakes but I love that about this story that he isn’t perfect but even Atreus acknowledges he was forgetting his dads teachings and was also making mistakes. This dynamic between a parent and child is so accurate and wholesome that they come together in a way that legit makes sense. Atreus making the promise to listen to his dad when he’s not there while Kratos remember and acknowledge his son when he isn’t there is perfect. I love that also Atreus speaking up and being wise and mature made Kratos get in his feels and apologize while Atreus then reminds him of exactly who he is with the dont be sorry be better line. Ah this game is fucking perfect.
This speaks more than of the game but of the great dilemma in families that if only we listen to each we may able to cure it
Atreus: Don’t be sorry Father, be better.
The ‘God of War’ has been ‘out-pun’ ladies and gentleman. 😅
I’m sorry but when he turned into the bear and dude said what the fuck that’s exactly how I would react. Made me laugh.
Alright Atreus may be distrustful towards Kratos for keeping secrets, or babysitting him around (which wouldn't be wrong because he's like, 13?) but he doesn't even trust Mimir? Or Sindri?
And props to Kratos for tanking the "a**hole" insult. Man (or god) has really grown into a much calmer person.