The way to simply shift to real democracy is by legalizing the right of people to vote on bills either digitally or with a piece of paper. Furthermore, citizen initiated legislation is required so people can bring forth bills. With these 2 tools, people can create the government they want. This is what real simple democracy looks like.James Kohut CalgaryChampion for the legalized right of people to vote on bills before the "House"
A very interesting and thought provoking talk - from which I mainly derive that our parliamentary democracy certainly needs tweaking and improving.... and the question raised really by Carl Miller in his talk is how; and could the internet help ? For me he talks a little too much about 'changing' the democratic system we have - rather than 'improving' the system. Surely we are only interested in change for the better. I also worry that because I do not care for the political or other sound bytes on twitter etc (which Carl seems to criticise in one breath but urge us towards in another)that I will somehow be entitles to less democratic rites than the person who twitters. Also, even with an 'internet' based democracy there will be problems (as Carl concedes) - and surely there will still be powerful groups selling us their politics and the 'right' decision we should make. In other words, if the main problem of our parliamentary democracy is not the system; but powerful groups who have too much influence on it; will this not be even worse with an internet democracy. Eg Tesco's telling us that 'Brexit' is a great idea - and click here to vote leave and get 4 pizzas for a pound at the same time ? So we must be careful we do not just change for the worse and get new powerful groups dominating how we do things. What we really need to improve our democracy (as a first step in my view) is a better educated and better informed electorate - who are aware of both sides (to some extent at least) of the matter being discussed..
I think we need to research new ways to organize decision making and social processes. To understand how humans work in large systems is not trivial and can only be done with careful investigation. As I said in another post, in these last 40 years cognitive and social psychology made great progresses in the understanding of humans, and this research can be applied to new social and political systems.
I'd like to imagine, that the administration of my borough could be supported through public accounts (i.e. only to residents of the respective borough), because right now communication is only via phone, mail or e-mail. If residents could chat, create blogs and create posts like a "Wikidemocracy" it could also improve the flow of information. In addition statistics for local government should be supported by an A.I.
computer systems must learn continuously how to make decisions from a variety of consideration variables. One of the considerations is based on human decisions that are experts in fields related to the issues discussed. The decision of mechine learning is never absolute, but at least the computer system requires confirmation and affirmation before making a decision.
I really am not fond of people putting forward ideas supported by none but selected facts. I have a question mark at almost any subtend cs here but I'm not going to ask them as the matter mostly is arguable cause not that obvious. But here is a hint - "Back to Greek democracy" Whom in the audience you are to exclude then and how many';ll be left? Sure women are out but I presume after "democracy qualification test" according to ancient Greeks, not many participants of your net democracy may be left. Please don't mix up tools (means of concluding democracy. Weatker it's voting with paper bulitens or clicking button, with essence of democracy. Politician is a profession by reason - with time so many needs of different groups and people have been recognised legitimate that it is simply impossible to consider them in political process without professional training. Believe me - if you are going to decide on something seemingly obvious to you, you'll be stunned by controversies and soon enough you'll realise that there are so many side effects on certain groups and people you could never even think of. (Personal example - You may think, let's say, make some complicated thing much easier by just attaching certain colours to certain things. And it indeed makes sense and could make life a lot easier. You propose to make it law. Nice - but you see, I myself am totally colourblind not to mention the totally blind people. So according to your law I am already criminal to be punished) I believe you could not imagine this coming and you really did not mean to discriminate me and more then that personaly. But you see - it is not that easy - your suggested type of democracy is more likely bringing us back to encient Greeks when all the decisions were made just by men who were entitled and what was on average not more than 20% of all the population of the polise tops. And don't be so sure when the day comes you personally for sure vill be granted access to decision making.. Even if you and you alone will create the model, there will be always someone able to convince majority that you are not fit.
The way to simply shift to real democracy is by legalizing the right of people to vote on bills either digitally or with a piece of paper. Furthermore, citizen initiated legislation is required so people can bring forth bills. With these 2 tools, people can create the government they want. This is what real simple democracy looks like.James Kohut CalgaryChampion for the legalized right of people to vote on bills before the "House"
5 dislikes? Those are surely dictators.
how are there not more comments on this?! this talk is absolutely epic
MOST PPL prefer watching hockey and soccer on tv
Beautifully-covered, Mr. Miller. Great to see all the DD action, worldwide, now, too. Here's hoping.
this could've been condensed to 2 minutes so I will create an animated version to do so.
Did you get round to this?
didn't ask bro
@@chrischatz7128 skase topi
2:24 Yes
Keanu Reeves really turned his life around
A very interesting and thought provoking talk - from which I mainly derive that our parliamentary democracy certainly needs tweaking and improving.... and the question raised really by Carl Miller in his talk is how; and could the internet help ? For me he talks a little too much about 'changing' the democratic system we have - rather than 'improving' the system. Surely we are only interested in change for the better. I also worry that because I do not care for the political or other sound bytes on twitter etc (which Carl seems to criticise in one breath but urge us towards in another)that I will somehow be entitles to less democratic rites than the person who twitters. Also, even with an 'internet' based democracy there will be problems (as Carl concedes) - and surely there will still be powerful groups selling us their politics and the 'right' decision we should make. In other words, if the main problem of our parliamentary democracy is not the system; but powerful groups who have too much influence on it; will this not be even worse with an internet democracy. Eg Tesco's telling us that 'Brexit' is a great idea - and click here to vote leave and get 4 pizzas for a pound at the same time ? So we must be careful we do not just change for the worse and get new powerful groups dominating how we do things. What we really need to improve our democracy (as a first step in my view) is a better educated and better informed electorate - who are aware of both sides (to some extent at least) of the matter being discussed..
I think we need to research new ways to organize decision making and social processes. To understand how humans work in large systems is not trivial and can only be done with careful investigation. As I said in another post, in these last 40 years cognitive and social psychology made great progresses in the understanding of humans, and this research can be applied to new social and political systems.
a true internet democracy would have a life of its own and who knows where it would lead. could be s nightmare or a dream.
I'd like to imagine, that the administration of my borough could be supported through public accounts (i.e. only to residents of the respective borough), because right now communication is only via phone, mail or e-mail. If residents could chat, create blogs and create posts like a "Wikidemocracy" it could also improve the flow of information. In addition statistics for local government should be supported by an A.I.
Genuinely gonna say this - i wish the monarchs of britian were anarchists acting in advocacy of the people and e democracy.
Brilliant!
Great speech
Me and my computer 2020! I want to be my own representative.
computer systems must learn continuously how to make decisions from a variety of consideration variables.
One of the considerations is based on human decisions that are experts in fields related to the issues discussed.
The decision of mechine learning is never absolute, but at least the computer system requires confirmation and affirmation before making a decision.
why is Digital Democracy not more common?
bitcoin democracy ?
I really am not fond of people putting forward ideas supported by none but selected facts. I have a question mark at almost any subtend cs here but I'm not going to ask them as the matter mostly is arguable cause not that obvious. But here is a hint - "Back to Greek democracy" Whom in the audience you are to exclude then and how many';ll be left? Sure women are out but I presume after "democracy qualification test" according to ancient Greeks, not many participants of your net democracy may be left. Please don't mix up tools (means of concluding democracy. Weatker it's voting with paper bulitens or clicking button, with essence of democracy.
Politician is a profession by reason - with time so many needs of different groups and people have been recognised legitimate that it is simply impossible to consider them in political process without professional training. Believe me - if you are going to decide on something seemingly obvious to you, you'll be stunned by controversies and soon enough you'll realise that there are so many side effects on certain groups and people you could never even think of. (Personal example - You may think, let's say, make some complicated thing much easier by just attaching certain colours to certain things. And it indeed makes sense and could make life a lot easier. You propose to make it law. Nice - but you see, I myself am totally colourblind not to mention the totally blind people. So according to your law I am already criminal to be punished) I believe you could not imagine this coming and you really did not mean to discriminate me and more then that personaly. But you see - it is not that easy - your suggested type of democracy is more likely bringing us back to encient Greeks when all the decisions were made just by men who were entitled and what was on average not more than 20% of all the population of the polise tops. And don't be so sure when the day comes you personally for sure vill be granted access to decision making.. Even if you and you alone will create the model, there will be always someone able to convince majority that you are not fit.
Ye but BitCoin crushed.
yeah absolutely destroyed :( from $350 in 2016 to $5000 in 2019
@@gordygordy89 Dec 2017= 17k $
Now= 5k $
@@SeniorAdrian good luck in life seeing the negative in something doing 10000% and you wanted nonstop 1000000%
@@gordygordy89 Not an argument.
@@SeniorAdrian enjoying that pessimism buddy?