i found Ellen plays bass about 3 years ago.... slowly I also started to follow Yoyoka on drums and Charlotte Milstein on lead guitar... THey are a great nucleus for a band the likes of Steely Dan, but with the ability to play funk, fusion, jazz,metal or anything it seems.... And shout out to the singer Vinya! I hope they stay together as they age and become huge!
@@purplebutterflywithabrokenwing if you do a deep dive on ellens page, you can see her and her father during practice and the patience and insight. Of course Yoyoka has her big hit at 8 with Led Zepplin and then again with Deep Purple burn.
This new generations of young musicians will reach world fame sooner than anybody expected. Little Ellen reminds me of Alejandra Villareal the bassist of the band named Warning who learned to play this song by the age of seven, and by the age of eight she perfected to play this song. Last year they toured with Muse which band members were blown away from her talent. Many calls her as the most badass bass player girl of the world who changes from fingerpick to play with pick during just one song. Now she is almost six feet tall in a supermodel body and touring the world with her sisters also the band members. Little Ellen must be stopped before she will blown. Yoyoka my other favored drummer along with Paulina Villareal the sister of Alejandra named the best rock drummer in 2023. It’s good to see young girls and boys mastering their instruments like the other favored family band from New Zeeland named the Rumpus Machine whose covers are as pristine as a mountain lakes water. I highly recommend to you to look them up and your jaw will drop to the floors. Thanks for this very entertaining video about the next generation of rockers!
I'm a 69yr old bassist... I used ta' could'a play like dat but... Ellen at 11 surpassed my best years (late 20's early 30's) already...dang , she was born for this stuff! Oh, and great reaction Purple Gurl thumbs up and subbed💜🎶👍
This version of Muse's "Hysteria" always blows my socks off! What a fantastic young band - I really hope we hear a lot more from them in the future! Greetings from Germany!
The answer to "how can they be..." is always re-incarnation. We are watching a generation of musicians who learned their craft decades ago, coming back to take it to the next level.
"kids that have been doing this for so long" It should be noted that both Ellen on bass (11 at time of recording) and Charlotte on guitar (despite info on description, was 13 at time of recording) both started learning their instruments at the start of the pandemic. Yoyoka on drum is 14, but she started drumming at 4 or so. I found this group after following Yoyoka for years. Bay on the other guitar is 9 and singer Vinya is 13 and seems to really know how to belt. Charlotte's sister Ella killing the backing vocals is 16
Thank you so much for your support and enthusiasm for these amazing kids!!! Kids Rock For Kids -- a 501(c)3 non-profit based in Brooklyn, NYC -- brings together amazing kids from around the world to do all sorts of different collaborations -- live shows, virtual collabs, and studio collabs like this one. We also feature lots and lots of bands who are already together and creating incredible original music. We brought these kids together in L.A., and recorded 3 songs: this one, Peace of Mind, which is also out (link below), and one more coming soon! 🤘🌍❤
AFAIK, none-profit "KIDS ROCK FOR KIDS" pulled that together. This is *_Better_* than faultless. Everyone is superb. AFAIK, it is one unedited audio take. Ellen's Dad Hovak mixed the audio. Ellen and Yoyoka (drums) covered Led Zeppelin two years ago: _Led Zeppelin - The Ocean (Cover) by Ellen, Eva, Mateo and YOYOKA_ (4m:28s). Yoyoka hadn't even met them before. The audio is one continuous unedited take. Take 1 or 2. They had to do several extra performances because they only had one camera operator, Ellen's Dad Hovak (who edited the video and mixed the audio). You already know about Ellen. Have you seen the video her dad made about how she came to play bass? _Ellen's Story_ (12m:25s). It's inspiring. One of her mentors is Victor Wooten (probably top 5 bassist). Yoyoka is self taught from 2yo. First live gigs at 4yo. Took over as drummer in her family's band at 5yo. Her parents limited her to 30 minutes/day practice until she was 9yo so she'd have a normal childhood. That seems to have caused her to invent ways to think about drumming away from the kit when she was very young. Drummer World added her to their "Top 500 drummers" list at 11yo; youngest ever. Yoyoka has 100+ solo covers at home (one take, no edits), as well as dozens of studio and live performances. The video that drew international recognition was her solo, at home _ Good Times Bad Times - LED ZEPPELIN / Cover by Yoyoka , 8yo_ (2m:57s) From 9yo, her covers were often her own arrangements. Some are better than the original. EDIT: Yoyoka has featured on two jazz albums with Ken Okada Group. AFAIK, she composed the drum parts. I don't know much about the other musicians. Bay (the 9yo guitarist) featured in several other "KIDS ROCK FOR KIDS" videos. Charlotte Milstein on guitar has did one "KIDS ROCK FOR KIDS: two years ago, and jammed with Ellen once. EDIT: Vinya Chhabra is more recently a solo artist, singing and accompanying herself on guitar (and drums & keyboards) I know nothing about Ella Milstein (16yo backing vocals); she hasn't got a RUclips channel. Best Wishes. ☮
@@purplebutterflywithabrokenwing Thank you for replying, and for the complement! I try to write hopefully helpful comments, for people investigating music I like, played by musicians I like. Fairly obviously Yoyoka is one of my favourite musicians, and Ellen is a happy, cheerful 'bass monster'. _Aside: Since writing my original comment, I've discovered Vinya Chhabra has played for "KIDS ROCK FOR KIDS" before, but she didn't have a version on her own channel._ "KIDS ROCK FOR KIDS" version of this Muse "Hysteria" video is the 2nd most popular on their channel! Those kids live from coast to coast. So making their video successful might cause KRFK to fund more. (I know they recorded 2 songs, and might have recorded 4) I hope my longer comments might cause "The Algorithm" to recommend videos I like, to people who might discover they like them too. Hopefully causing positive feedback... _(Summary, I hope helping you might help me 😀)_ If you've questions I might help answer, please reply. I might take days, or more, though. Best Wishes. ☮
BTW please support all new young artist. They are the next generation to bring us great music. Check with your city for organizations in your city for it
AFAIK, none-profit "KIDS ROCK FOR KIDS" pulled that together. This is *_Better_* than faultless. Everyone is superb. AFAIK, it is one unedited audio take. Ellen's Dad Hovak mixed the audio. Ellen and Yoyoka (drums) covered Led Zeppelin two years ago: _Led Zeppelin - The Ocean (Cover) by Ellen, Eva, Mateo and YOYOKA_ ruclips.net/video/Oezh5Y1qutc/видео.html (4m:28s). Yoyoka hadn't even met them before. The audio is one continuous unedited take. They had to do several extra performances because they only had one camera operator, Ellen's Dad Hovak (who edited the video and mixed the audio). You already know about Ellen. Have you seen the video her dad made about how she came to play bass? _Ellen's Story_ ruclips.net/video/Lso2Z4f6C2s/видео.html (12m:25s). It's inspiring. One of her mentors is Victor Wooten (probably top 5 bassist). Yoyoka is self taught from 2yo. First live gigs at 4yo. Took over as drummer in her family's band at 5yo. Her parents limited her to 30 minutes/day practice until she was 9yo so she'd have a normal childhood. That seems to have caused her to invent ways to think about drumming away from the kit when she was very young. Drummer World added her to their "Top 500 drummers" list at 11yo; youngest ever. Yoyoka has 100+ solo covers at home (one take, no edits), as well as dozens of studio and live performances. The video that drew international recognition was her solo, at home _ Good Times Bad Times - LED ZEPPELIN / Cover by Yoyoka , 8yo_ ruclips.net/video/91pz1E8pAOY/видео.html (2m:57s) From 9yo, her covers were often her own arrangements. Some are better than the original. I don't know much about the other musicians. Bay (the 9yo guitarist) featured in several other "KIDS ROCK FOR KIDS" videos. Charlotte Milstein on guitar has did one "KIDS ROCK FOR KIDS: two years ago, and jammed with Ellen once. I know nothing about Ella Milstein (16yo backing vocals); she hasn't got a RUclips channel. Best Wishes. ☮
Yes, they are talented for sure, but even more importantly, they have done huge amount of work with right kind of guidance. You need thousand hours of practice to be pretty good, few thousand to be good and probably ten thousand hours to be "god tier" level, but if you are not challenging yourself to play better, faster, more technical, you can play million hours and still not be there.
I kind of did that latter on my guitar playing. I thought I was practising hard enough, but now I realize I wasn't. I should have practiced more scales and technique, but instead I was just playing "few" songs along with CD's...I guess on most days I played about 3 hours, and some days even 6-8 hours. And I was always way too hard to myself, which was not a good thing for my motivation (especially because I did everything wrong).
You might be mistaken about the amount of work Yoyoka did, and the guidance given, in order to be rated a "Top 500 Drummer". Yoyoka was shown how drum sticks are used at 1½yo. She started teaching herself drums at 2yo. Her parents restricted her to 30 minutes/day because they wanted to ensure she had a normal childhood. That was loosened a bit at 9yo (IIRC an hour/day?). But in those 7 years she had about 1400 hours practice. She played her first live gig at 4yo, and became her parents 'family band' drummer at 5yo. At 6yo, she started making her "Yoyoka Drum Course" videos. So under 800 hours. IIRC, she'd also composed, with help, a simple song or two. I suspect the restrictions caused her to invent ways to think about drumming when she was away from the drum kit. If you watch her early "Yoyoka Drum Course" videos, she has a 'language' of drum patterns. She learned songs by ear ie. memorised everything. She's only learned to read music in the last two years. Her covers at 7yo are OK, eg this jazz fusion: _ Onyx - 川口千里 (Senri Kawaguchi) 7歳女子ドラマー”よよか” / Seven year old drummer ”Yoyoka"_ ruclips.net/video/MkhGgqXywU8/видео.html It's fun, she's playing a live gig At 9yo pretty good, eg _The Police - Murder By Numbers/Cover by Yoyoka_ ruclips.net/video/XdeiMkCpSn8/видео.html Her parents didn't make her practice, or tell her what to play. They let her play anything she wanted. She discovered Led Zeppelin, and other Western bands, for herself. Yoyoka set the standard, which was to release YT videos, and play songs as if live. Her videos are multiple cameras, one continuous take, no edits. IIRC, Yoyoka was added to Drummer World's "Top 500 Drummers (in the world)" list when she was about 11½yo, the youngest ever, a few months after she covered "Burn" by Deep Purple ruclips.net/video/uhzX9QbH3js/видео.html She's one of 17 females. I guess she was short of 5,000 hours of 'practice'. Two years ago, Ellen and Yoyoka met for the first time and covered Led Zeppelin's "Ocean". Afterwards they had a Q&A with Ellen's Dad, Hovak. They talked about practice. IIRC, Yoyoka said she was lazy and didn't do practice much more than 15 minutes unless she had a gig coming up. It appeared Ellen played whatever she liked whenever she wanted. Hovak didn't force her to do anything. IIRC, Ellen guessed less than an hour/day. Ellen learned to play songs using a teaching App called "Yousician". It seems to focus on playing entire (carefully designed) songs. She was OK after two years. She's been playing bass about 4 years now. Summary: They both seem to focus on playing songs as if they are playing live, ie. don't worry about individual notes, but aimed to get the overall song 'right'. I hope that helps. Best Wishes. ☮
@@gbulmer I stand my ground. I watched your links, and there is a huge difference coming from 9 to 11 years. She was pretty good at 9 and very good at 11. Still waiting to see that "god-tier" performance. Of course because of her young age one could argue if it's god-tier or not, but I don't give any age-discounts in this. Of course without any musical talent whatsoever, no amount of training will make you good...probably pretty good is still achievable for the most. And vice versa. If you are super talented you can get there faster, and I think that is also needed to actually be a god-tier player, regardless of the instrument you are playing. I'm not sure about that Drummer's World top list, but in general all those are crap, and you can see Lars Ulrich for example in front of guys like Dave Lombardo or Mike Portnoy. Lars is great for Metallica and I love his style, but that is it. He shouldn't be any of these TOP 100 or 1000 or even 10000 lists, if it's about how good they are.
And regarding to Ellen, she is good, but she is nowhere near the god-tier yet, and if she is ever going to be one, she need to ramp up that practice time a lot. I'm not saying that everyone needs to be very good or the best to be a successful musician (and even less to be a good person), but I was just talking about the best of the best. If you ever want to be there, you need to work your butt off. And for the record, I love Ellen and how she enjoys herself while playing. And that is what matters the most.
i found Ellen plays bass about 3 years ago.... slowly I also started to follow Yoyoka on drums and Charlotte Milstein on lead guitar... THey are a great nucleus for a band the likes of Steely Dan, but with the ability to play funk, fusion, jazz,metal or anything it seems.... And shout out to the singer Vinya! I hope they stay together as they age and become huge!
They were all amazing. I started falling all of their pages after this 💜🎶🤘🏻🦋
@@purplebutterflywithabrokenwing if you do a deep dive on ellens page, you can see her and her father during practice and the patience and insight. Of course Yoyoka has her big hit at 8 with Led Zepplin and then again with Deep Purple burn.
This new generations of young musicians will reach world fame sooner than anybody expected. Little Ellen reminds me of Alejandra Villareal the bassist of the band named Warning who learned to play this song by the age of seven, and by the age of eight she perfected to play this song. Last year they toured with Muse which band members were blown away from her talent. Many calls her as the most badass bass player girl of the world who changes from fingerpick to play with pick during just one song. Now she is almost six feet tall in a supermodel body and touring the world with her sisters also the band members. Little Ellen must be stopped before she will blown. Yoyoka my other favored drummer along with Paulina Villareal the sister of Alejandra named the best rock drummer in 2023. It’s good to see young girls and boys mastering their instruments like the other favored family band from New Zeeland named the Rumpus Machine whose covers are as pristine as a mountain lakes water. I highly recommend to you to look them up and your jaw will drop to the floors. Thanks for this very entertaining video about the next generation of rockers!
Vinya plays guitar and drums too. Probably keys also. These artists are all prodigies.
I'm a 69yr old bassist... I used ta' could'a play like dat but... Ellen at 11 surpassed my best years (late 20's early 30's) already...dang , she was born for this stuff! Oh, and great reaction Purple Gurl thumbs up and subbed💜🎶👍
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Absolutely love how the singer changes a few of the vocals to give it a personal spin also with that jaw dropping solo
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This version of Muse's "Hysteria" always blows my socks off! What a fantastic young band - I really hope we hear a lot more from them in the future! Greetings from Germany!
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The answer to "how can they be..." is always re-incarnation. We are watching a generation of musicians who learned their craft decades ago, coming back to take it to the next level.
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If that's so then Yoyoka is John Bonham.
Check out their cover of Peace of Mind by Boston!
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They also released a cover of Boston -Peace of Mind. Another drop coming soon.
Nice 💜🦋🎶🤘🏻
Wow. Unbelievable !!!! I am amazed!!!!
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"kids that have been doing this for so long" It should be noted that both Ellen on bass (11 at time of recording) and Charlotte on guitar (despite info on description, was 13 at time of recording) both started learning their instruments at the start of the pandemic. Yoyoka on drum is 14, but she started drumming at 4 or so. I found this group after following Yoyoka for years. Bay on the other guitar is 9 and singer Vinya is 13 and seems to really know how to belt. Charlotte's sister Ella killing the backing vocals is 16
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This is great I have watched this about once every day since it came out
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Thank you so much for your support and enthusiasm for these amazing kids!!! Kids Rock For Kids -- a 501(c)3 non-profit based in Brooklyn, NYC -- brings together amazing kids from around the world to do all sorts of different collaborations -- live shows, virtual collabs, and studio collabs like this one. We also feature lots and lots of bands who are already together and creating incredible original music. We brought these kids together in L.A., and recorded 3 songs: this one, Peace of Mind, which is also out (link below), and one more coming soon! 🤘🌍❤
ruclips.net/video/Z431gmb9oMA/видео.html
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AFAIK, none-profit "KIDS ROCK FOR KIDS" pulled that together. This is *_Better_* than faultless. Everyone is superb. AFAIK, it is one unedited audio take. Ellen's Dad Hovak mixed the audio. Ellen and Yoyoka (drums) covered Led Zeppelin two years ago: _Led Zeppelin - The Ocean (Cover) by Ellen, Eva, Mateo and YOYOKA_ (4m:28s). Yoyoka hadn't even met them before. The audio is one continuous unedited take. Take 1 or 2. They had to do several extra performances because they only had one camera operator, Ellen's Dad Hovak (who edited the video and mixed the audio).
You already know about Ellen. Have you seen the video her dad made about how she came to play bass? _Ellen's Story_ (12m:25s). It's inspiring. One of her mentors is Victor Wooten (probably top 5 bassist).
Yoyoka is self taught from 2yo. First live gigs at 4yo. Took over as drummer in her family's band at 5yo. Her parents limited her to 30 minutes/day practice until she was 9yo so she'd have a normal childhood. That seems to have caused her to invent ways to think about drumming away from the kit when she was very young. Drummer World added her to their "Top 500 drummers" list at 11yo; youngest ever.
Yoyoka has 100+ solo covers at home (one take, no edits), as well as dozens of studio and live performances. The video that drew international recognition was her solo, at home _ Good Times Bad Times - LED ZEPPELIN / Cover by Yoyoka , 8yo_ (2m:57s)
From 9yo, her covers were often her own arrangements. Some are better than the original.
EDIT: Yoyoka has featured on two jazz albums with Ken Okada Group. AFAIK, she composed the drum parts.
I don't know much about the other musicians.
Bay (the 9yo guitarist) featured in several other "KIDS ROCK FOR KIDS" videos.
Charlotte Milstein on guitar has did one "KIDS ROCK FOR KIDS: two years ago, and jammed with Ellen once.
EDIT: Vinya Chhabra is more recently a solo artist, singing and accompanying herself on guitar (and drums & keyboards)
I know nothing about Ella Milstein (16yo backing vocals); she hasn't got a RUclips channel.
Best Wishes. ☮
Thank you for that awesome comment 💜🦋🎶🤘🏻
@@purplebutterflywithabrokenwing Thank you for replying, and for the complement!
I try to write hopefully helpful comments, for people investigating music I like, played by musicians I like. Fairly obviously Yoyoka is one of my favourite musicians, and Ellen is a happy, cheerful 'bass monster'.
_Aside: Since writing my original comment, I've discovered Vinya Chhabra has played for "KIDS ROCK FOR KIDS" before, but she didn't have a version on her own channel._
"KIDS ROCK FOR KIDS" version of this Muse "Hysteria" video is the 2nd most popular on their channel! Those kids live from coast to coast. So making their video successful might cause KRFK to fund more. (I know they recorded 2 songs, and might have recorded 4)
I hope my longer comments might cause "The Algorithm" to recommend videos I like, to people who might discover they like them too. Hopefully causing positive feedback...
_(Summary, I hope helping you might help me 😀)_
If you've questions I might help answer, please reply. I might take days, or more, though.
Best Wishes. ☮
Well, that was suitably, surreally, insane, a bit like opening a cupboard onto Narnia ...
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Wow, a whole host of stars here with Ellen and Yoyoka leading the way, Yoyoka already being a drumming legend. Phew the whole group is sensational.
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Just try Missioned Souls cover of Hysteria,Plug in Baby & Starlight from Muse..A family band from the Philippines..
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BTW please support all new young artist. They are the next generation to bring us great music. Check with your city for organizations in your city for it
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lol@really good. Ellen is a badass as is the others in the band.
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Please check Missioned Souls, a family band from the Philippines, they cover Muse, Bon Jovi,
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AFAIK, none-profit "KIDS ROCK FOR KIDS" pulled that together. This is *_Better_* than faultless. Everyone is superb. AFAIK, it is one unedited audio take. Ellen's Dad Hovak mixed the audio. Ellen and Yoyoka (drums) covered Led Zeppelin two years ago: _Led Zeppelin - The Ocean (Cover) by Ellen, Eva, Mateo and YOYOKA_ ruclips.net/video/Oezh5Y1qutc/видео.html (4m:28s). Yoyoka hadn't even met them before. The audio is one continuous unedited take. They had to do several extra performances because they only had one camera operator, Ellen's Dad Hovak (who edited the video and mixed the audio).
You already know about Ellen. Have you seen the video her dad made about how she came to play bass? _Ellen's Story_ ruclips.net/video/Lso2Z4f6C2s/видео.html (12m:25s). It's inspiring. One of her mentors is Victor Wooten (probably top 5 bassist).
Yoyoka is self taught from 2yo. First live gigs at 4yo. Took over as drummer in her family's band at 5yo. Her parents limited her to 30 minutes/day practice until she was 9yo so she'd have a normal childhood. That seems to have caused her to invent ways to think about drumming away from the kit when she was very young. Drummer World added her to their "Top 500 drummers" list at 11yo; youngest ever.
Yoyoka has 100+ solo covers at home (one take, no edits), as well as dozens of studio and live performances. The video that drew international recognition was her solo, at home _ Good Times Bad Times - LED ZEPPELIN / Cover by Yoyoka , 8yo_ ruclips.net/video/91pz1E8pAOY/видео.html (2m:57s)
From 9yo, her covers were often her own arrangements. Some are better than the original.
I don't know much about the other musicians.
Bay (the 9yo guitarist) featured in several other "KIDS ROCK FOR KIDS" videos.
Charlotte Milstein on guitar has did one "KIDS ROCK FOR KIDS: two years ago, and jammed with Ellen once.
I know nothing about Ella Milstein (16yo backing vocals); she hasn't got a RUclips channel.
Best Wishes. ☮
Yes, they are talented for sure, but even more importantly, they have done huge amount of work with right kind of guidance. You need thousand hours of practice to be pretty good, few thousand to be good and probably ten thousand hours to be "god tier" level, but if you are not challenging yourself to play better, faster, more technical, you can play million hours and still not be there.
I kind of did that latter on my guitar playing. I thought I was practising hard enough, but now I realize I wasn't. I should have practiced more scales and technique, but instead I was just playing "few" songs along with CD's...I guess on most days I played about 3 hours, and some days even 6-8 hours. And I was always way too hard to myself, which was not a good thing for my motivation (especially because I did everything wrong).
Thank you for your input amazes me how much talent these young people have makes me jealous that I didn’t have more guidance to do so myself💜🦋🎶🤘🏻
You might be mistaken about the amount of work Yoyoka did, and the guidance given, in order to be rated a "Top 500 Drummer". Yoyoka was shown how drum sticks are used at 1½yo. She started teaching herself drums at 2yo. Her parents restricted her to 30 minutes/day because they wanted to ensure she had a normal childhood. That was loosened a bit at 9yo (IIRC an hour/day?). But in those 7 years she had about 1400 hours practice. She played her first live gig at 4yo, and became her parents 'family band' drummer at 5yo. At 6yo, she started making her "Yoyoka Drum Course" videos. So under 800 hours. IIRC, she'd also composed, with help, a simple song or two.
I suspect the restrictions caused her to invent ways to think about drumming when she was away from the drum kit. If you watch her early "Yoyoka Drum Course" videos, she has a 'language' of drum patterns. She learned songs by ear ie. memorised everything. She's only learned to read music in the last two years.
Her covers at 7yo are OK, eg this jazz fusion: _ Onyx - 川口千里 (Senri Kawaguchi) 7歳女子ドラマー”よよか” / Seven year old drummer ”Yoyoka"_ ruclips.net/video/MkhGgqXywU8/видео.html It's fun, she's playing a live gig
At 9yo pretty good, eg _The Police - Murder By Numbers/Cover by Yoyoka_ ruclips.net/video/XdeiMkCpSn8/видео.html
Her parents didn't make her practice, or tell her what to play. They let her play anything she wanted. She discovered Led Zeppelin, and other Western bands, for herself. Yoyoka set the standard, which was to release YT videos, and play songs as if live. Her videos are multiple cameras, one continuous take, no edits.
IIRC, Yoyoka was added to Drummer World's "Top 500 Drummers (in the world)" list when she was about 11½yo, the youngest ever, a few months after she covered "Burn" by Deep Purple ruclips.net/video/uhzX9QbH3js/видео.html She's one of 17 females. I guess she was short of 5,000 hours of 'practice'.
Two years ago, Ellen and Yoyoka met for the first time and covered Led Zeppelin's "Ocean". Afterwards they had a Q&A with Ellen's Dad, Hovak. They talked about practice. IIRC, Yoyoka said she was lazy and didn't do practice much more than 15 minutes unless she had a gig coming up. It appeared Ellen played whatever she liked whenever she wanted. Hovak didn't force her to do anything. IIRC, Ellen guessed less than an hour/day. Ellen learned to play songs using a teaching App called "Yousician". It seems to focus on playing entire (carefully designed) songs. She was OK after two years. She's been playing bass about 4 years now.
Summary: They both seem to focus on playing songs as if they are playing live, ie. don't worry about individual notes, but aimed to get the overall song 'right'.
I hope that helps.
Best Wishes. ☮
@@gbulmer I stand my ground. I watched your links, and there is a huge difference coming from 9 to 11 years. She was pretty good at 9 and very good at 11. Still waiting to see that "god-tier" performance. Of course because of her young age one could argue if it's god-tier or not, but I don't give any age-discounts in this. Of course without any musical talent whatsoever, no amount of training will make you good...probably pretty good is still achievable for the most. And vice versa. If you are super talented you can get there faster, and I think that is also needed to actually be a god-tier player, regardless of the instrument you are playing. I'm not sure about that Drummer's World top list, but in general all those are crap, and you can see Lars Ulrich for example in front of guys like Dave Lombardo or Mike Portnoy. Lars is great for Metallica and I love his style, but that is it. He shouldn't be any of these TOP 100 or 1000 or even 10000 lists, if it's about how good they are.
And regarding to Ellen, she is good, but she is nowhere near the god-tier yet, and if she is ever going to be one, she need to ramp up that practice time a lot. I'm not saying that everyone needs to be very good or the best to be a successful musician (and even less to be a good person), but I was just talking about the best of the best. If you ever want to be there, you need to work your butt off. And for the record, I love Ellen and how she enjoys herself while playing. And that is what matters the most.
Proves that Rock and Roll was a genetic implant as was classical music ages ago.
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