Aston Martin V12 Vantage S Manual: The Perfect Aston? - Carfection
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Aston Martin has finally given the V12 Vantage S a manual gearbox, is it better than the automatic? Oh yes. And then some.
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To those who say "ah typical british journalist being biased to british cars" "overpriced and underpowered" "aston martins look the same", just keep in mind that *this car is pretty much the last ever production car to have a naturally aspirated V12 mated to a 3 pedal manual.* Lambo stopped with their manual LP670 SV and Ferrari stopped with their ultra rare manual 599 ages ago. Just let that sink in for a minute. Let alone how beautiful this 2005 design looks. This car deserves the hype.
+smilepermile Was there even an LP670 manual? I thought the last manual Murcielago was the LP640. Anyway, with the next generation we're going to lose one of the best V8s in the industry, one of the best V12s in the industry and yet another manual gearbox I think. I really think in 20 years time when I can maybe afford one of these cars I'll still be buying cars from around this period.
***** I completely agree with you. Aside from limousine style cars like the S600, 760li, W12 A8s, perhaps this car is the 'most affordable' way right now of getting a V12. The Vantage range may have been here since 2004, but that just proves how effective their design and their chassis are. Its not going to be a nurburgring laptime leader but this car wasn't intended with the mindset like that. Oh yes the NSX, I don't feel like it has much of a driver-envolvement. I'm sure thats a very competent car but I prefer the much more analogue approach of the NA1 and NA2 generation NSXs. I do think that the new one sounds muted with its turbocharged engine and there's no manual. I do think they could have made that car 300-400kg lighter than what it is. And for a Honda, its a bit pricey isn't it.
+MRFUCKOFF202 Yep, Lamborghini actually did make LP670-4 Super Veloce with manual transmission (H pattern open gated), but in very small numbers, i'm guessing less than 100 anyway. There are several videos of these rare cars online. And yes, its very sad that brilliant V8s and V12s are gradually fading out. The 4.7 V8 from the Vantage sounds just as good as this V12 and I miss the V10 from the M5+M6, V8 from the M3 too. And yes, these special cars should be bought when they can. Its only the matter of time when they get extinct :'(
smilepermile Wow, I've never seen one before. I bet they're going to be worth several million in years to come.
MRFUCKOFF202 Definitely. I heard that the 6 speed manual Ferrari 599s were recently sold for 600,000 euros so i'm sure it would be the same if not more for the SV manuals. I really hope that many people buy this V12 Vantage S with the manual before their replacement arrives next year or so, otherwise these cars will also be very rare and appreciate like crazy!
Like Clarkson said having a V12 with a manual is like shaking hands with an old friend
I'm pretty Richard something similar about the limited edition gallardo
+Anurag Gupta Which has a V10!
+Ian Townsend He never said that.
+headcrash69 This man here knows every word of Jeremy Clarkson by heart.
James May said that having an electric car with a manual is like shaking hands with an autistic
I'm saying it now, this will be a future classic
This may be my ultimate dream car - at least the base recipe is. Yet the Vantage looks astonishing.
agreed
Love your videos VisioRacer and your English is great. Don't let stupid English people who only speak one language tell you otherwise.
One of the best car guys ever. Dont ever stop.
The quality of your videos has increased dramatically over the past year or so. I'm glad I subbed back then.
+Carfection which is the car roaring at the beginning of each video? Ftype? Great channel!!
That 7 speed manual with auto blip actually makes this car even more unique. It signifies a renaissance of old values and qualities but modified and improved, distilling the best part of this feature. Happy to see Porsche and Aston making the effort to do this!!! :D
masterpiece from aston
This 10 years old car is more beautiful and charismatic than any other car produced today. Wish these could stay the same forever..
+MyRealName I'm glad that I wasn't the only one who thought that too. So many people bitch on how 'dated' and 'overrated' these astons are but I do think if it ain't broke, why fix it? These cars look absolutely beautiful, sound epic and have a very good chassis. With this 2016 V12 Vantage S, it is certainly the last car to ever have the NA V12 mated to a manual, so it deserves the hype.
Yes, if anything is really special in 2016, this is it, as special as it gets.
Yes, finally we found 2 petrolheads that don't go with the flow of the hype. Bless you 2. cheers.
- another petrolhead that doesn't like the new age crap
Shaken not stirred. What a car!
Lol true
+ARMYTRIX Do you guys have an aftermarket exhaust system for the V12 Vantage S? The oem exhaust system (derived mostly from one-77) is quite light I heard...
+smilepermile You can also just remove the fuse 22 as for all Aston's control the exhaust valve and then it's just perfect ;)
Velago wow, nice!
+Velago there's even a switch that turns it off for u :)
This car has got to be my favourite car on the market today. I saw one for the first time a few weeks ago here in Canada, and I looked inside and it was a manual transmission. I wanted to find the owner just to shake his hand and congratulate him haha. On a side note, i'm not sure I buy the argument at 6:24 about power making manual transmissions harder to use... Europe may be having a problem with this, but the Hellcat has 125 more hp than this car and uses a manual just fine. Also, what about modified cars? I've driven 800whp cars from the 90's with a manual transmission and it's no tougher than if the car was stock with 300hp. I think it's a manufacturers excuse. Awesome video, as always.
+Roads Untraveled Love watching your videos!
These types of cars are getting rarer and rarer. I hope they build more of it before the next gen Vantage comes out. No more N.A. V12s :'( Its a similar approach to the 911-R being an old-school naturally aspirated engine w/ manual transmission - but it would have been great if Porsche built more than 991 of 911-Rs because they appreciated in value so much.
Usually I take my headphones off to watch a video, I just prefer it, however, I went and got the best ones I could find to watch this. All for THAT NOISE.
V12 Vantage S with a manual is one of my dream cars.
Lovely review! The production quality just keeps getting better. Hats off to you guys.
What a beautifully concise and elegant review. And that car is just magnificent.
Excellent review my friend, one of the best!! Keep it up.
Such a great car and one of the best reviews I've seen. Very nice job Carfection 👍 thanks for it.
Only thing I can think of when I see a car with a dog leg manual is the episode of top gear when may had that merc and kept backing into everything
I want one of the 6.0 V12 Astons with a manual before I die. Hopefully they don't appreciate like crazy.
+Harrison Conyers Get the older 2009-2012 V12 Vantage (non-S) manuals, the prices have come down a bit.
Jason Lo at the rate I'm going now it'll probably be several years before I can even look into it. My next purchase is an e46 M3.
+Harrison Conyers They are already going up! Look around and a low mileage 510bhp V12 Vantage is almost £100k and a DBS Manaul is around the same money. A year ago they were both around £80-85k
My father's friend purchased a 2007 DB9 with a manual tranny and I can guarantee that it is one of the most incredible experiences of my life. Its not the fastest car I have driven but definitely the most pure
So I hope your dream comes true
Great video guys! Love the cinematography!
Please stop putting music over the engine sound (:
i will never get bored of listening to that 6.0 liter v12
Back to loving Carfection with this review!
Bang on with the comments on why autos are more popular. And bang on with the review. Absolutely beautiful.
What a car! Cool vid too, liking the quirky switching between different externally mounted cameras.
You guys deserve thrice the subs ! An exquisite video after an exquisite video ..
another V12 Vantage S review!
my favorite car!
Fantastic review !
Probably my all time favorite looking car. Simply stunning.
Fantastic car and fantastic review!
I've no doubt that this car will massively appreciate in value in a relatively short space of time. Great engine, proper gearbox and beautiful form factor. Hard to argue with that, albeit the price is prohibitive for 'normal' people.
+Gary Shaw I hope many people buy this car so that it doesnt become super exclusive, therefore not appreciate in value so much compared to a 599 or Lambo SV manual! haha
Carfection! Your content is amazing as always, thank you for making all these videos ^^
I was thinking, would you mind doing a video on something super rare? Things like the Zenvo ST1 hypercar from Denmark, or the Mitsuoka Orochi Japanese mid-engined sports car, or the Toyota Century luxury car that looks dated but has a V12 in it, they're all pretty interesting in their own way, and yet I've hardly seen coverage on any of them. It'd be great if you guys could cover one of these cars or some other unknown gems in the automotive world. Anyways, thanks again you guys, cheers! ^^
You could turn into Podfection and become people transport pod reviewers.
hermest99 Podfection : For the love of pods
This guy did a previous review of the first Gen I manual v12 Vantage. Would be good to have heard how this Gen II S version manual compares. Good video. Fabulous car.
The best car in the world ever possibly ever made ever.
Love that car (would change the colour to Rolls Royce Blue, and no yellow bits). This video is epic. And still have the question (that others have also asked, but no reply) what is that music at the end ? I love that too! Please Carfection, what is it and who is singing it ? Please leave a reply !!! Please ?
I love the book analogy at the end at 9:26 minutes.
@ 9 minutes in,look at his face, his smile,he's buzzing off this car. he drives every road car going,so 4 him to feel like that it must be special. more of a drivers car than a mid life statement car. love to see it perform on a circuit.
If I had the money I'd seriously buy this in the blink of an eye.... Sounds awesome... Feels awesome and looks awesome... dated or not... I'd buy it anyway
Great review....
Aston Martin design is pure & timeless. There is no other!
Really liked the video
I've been waiting for someone to do this on a 2016 vanquish S
"And for the first time it has a manual gearbox" - man have you ever heard about, say, the V12 Vantage from 2009?
That’s the “V12 Vantage” and this is the “V12 Vantage S” that previously was only offered with automatic gear box.
5:50 Saw your new focus there !!!
Is it sad that the most exciting part for me was seeing the reflection of the camera car Focus ST-D in a couple of the shots? Great review though! Dogleg gearboxes are so cool, if a bit impractical.
I absolutely love this car
Very well said
Can't wait for the DB11
can't wait for the v 12 turbo, bring it
That colour, similar to Audi nardo grey. Love it
This car in this colour and cognac brown leather interiour: Perfection.
Old design or not...this is one of the sexiest sports cars on this planet...full stop. I am in love!
This is my new favourite car of all time
Awesome Reviewer!
This guy is the best host ever. Can we get him on network TV FFS?
Best channel
Now THAT'S truly carfection.
Not sure about that 7-speed configuration, though... This heavy-ass car is just not going to be gunning for the leaderboards, and a 6-speed is just so symmetrical / proper.
What a great car! I'll buy the scaled version when AUTOart releases it and that says a lot :D I do agree with why cars of such power need a sequential gearbox though. Still, it's great to have one with a manual!
It's such a charismatic car.....luv it..
Is there a way to turn off auto blip when you downshift?
I will have one. This year.
WHATS THE SONG AT THE END CALLED
Name of the song at the end please?
what is that music in the beginning?
Hmm, bit sceptical. Is it a real manual (as in pushing fluid with your clutch foot and moving cables with the stick) or is it just a manualised auto like the 7speed 911 manual?
i would loove to have a manual aston!
It now only needs the metallic and chunky gear knob from V12 Vantage non-S version.
Witch song is that in the end?
+carfection, would you tell me please?
Great on the freeway, but it must be a PITA in the city. Worth the trade-off if you have some twisties in your backyard, for sure.
This is something I've been trying to work out lately. There has to be a point where adding power to sports cars does not translate to a better driving experience. If it's not hindered by power train technology, it'll be hindered by brake and tire technology as well as public roads. Therefore, carmakers must resort to other ways of making cars exciting to drive. This Aston could be an example of that, as well as Porsche with the 911R. Now Porsche has said the next GT3 and RS models will have a manual option.
Nice car!
I want one so bad it hurts, back to work!
will be interesting to see if they put manual with the new turbo
There is a manual option.
They will, this is a quote from Aston Martin Boss Andy Palmer "I've already gone on the record saying I want to be the last manufacturer in the world to offer a manual sports car."
Does it have an unlimited mileage bumper-to-bumper warranty?
perfection. nothing to say more.
If I had the money, I'd buy it instantly. INSTANTLY.
I love the production values on your videos. However you always seem to use the same location to film. This country is beautiful, with diverse scenery. Id like to see some more creative work.
V12 engines normally sound brutal,screaming loudly and you can hear it miles away.But this isnt,the exhaust sound was very soothing.I really like it
When will they launch a new mode
+Supcharged Its not like you would afford this car is it so who gives a shit if this car has been around since 2005? The chassis is amazing and it sounds great, let alone its attractive looks. If it ain't broke, why fix it?
I love the vantage
Now that you have had almost two years to experience the replacement for this 2017 model, I wonder which you like to drive more. Because for me, I love the 2017 more.
my favourite new car
How do you shift 7 gears manually :O
I see the car future two ways, there will be electric cars (with graphene batteries, this is important to note) and there will be a small niche market for gas cars. Why do I think this? Well there is a small niche market for many things that used to be commonplace, like vacuum tube headphone and speaker amps, vinyl discs, hell, sailboats even (although that's stretching it a bit). And companies within these niche markets are very dedicated to their products, and the same I think the same will hold true for gas cars in the future.
On the other hand, I greatly support electric cars as well, but I think that if you are going to make one (as a company), you shouldn't half ass it, huge power, and direct drive, don't need a heavy transmission to weigh the car down needlessly. And companies now that make performance cars will most likely end up making very fast electric cars which will probably end up being much much faster than today's gas cars. And who knows, some drivers and racers might like them more, as with the smooth ride, and direct drive, you have huge power at any speed, and you can focus more on cornering.
Of course all this is speculation, but I think it's reasonable, and if anyone has any other input, it would be interesting to hear.
You have a good point, but I think there will always be a market for combustion powered sports cars for the people who want them. It may not be the most popular in the future, but it will still continue to be made to cater to our market. Manufacturers like Aston Martin know and understand there is a good chunk of people who enjoy driving a stickshift, and people like you and me will happily buy one. Did motorsport put traditional horse racing out of existence? No. Stickshift cars will always exist because people like us will make sure of it. And when oil runs out? Well, fuels like methanol and bio diesel will take the place of petrol in combustion engines. The Internal Combustion Engine is too good and reliable to ever go away for a long, long time, and it's only improving.
I want to hit Like button twice!!
I'll have mine in ice blue please, not that vile colour combo AM put on it
You should definitely upgrade the sound of your intro with some V12 ;)
But does it come with a BUMPER to BUMPER warranty?
The interior is dated but the exterior is absolutely perfect.
I don't think any of the current range look dated. The yellow / grey combo will likely be popular in Germany. Blue and red for me. Analogue will take a long time to die out....
Finally, a real car review...
It is a beautiful looking car.......
Now that's my kind of car..
I feel like his statement about cars like this disappearing and everything "analog" being digitalized reflects many aspects of our everyday life, not just cars (as he mentions with netflix etc.). I'm only 19 but I worry about where we're going with certain things.. Kinda wish some things could stay in the past (i.e. manual gearboxes, not electric cars).
Nissan GT-R 2017 review or Seat León Cupra 280!! Spain can made good cars too!!
YES! Thank you Aston Martin! AM
I run a 2006 6 speed manual 4.3 every day but of course I want a V12 manual but given a 22k car is £75k and a 55k car £50 ish that's a pound a mile depreciation before fuel, service, insurance. I just can't get there... 🙄 No idea why the 7 speed is a thing as the 6 speed is so good...
Maybe I'm odd, but I think I prefer the sound of a V8 more than a V12... Say what you will about the car built around it, but I think the Maserati GranTurismo's engine might be the best sounding available.
4 years I'd say it's still beautiful and still notdatedy
this car is a masterpiecd