The idea of a redcap-blooded Malkavian should frighten anyone who knows of the possibilty of such a terrifying amalgam. Though I also wonder how many sidhe-blooded Kinain have already been embraced by Toreador...
To break tradition somewhat, I made a Kiasyd who was going through her rebellious phase. Joined a band, slept around, was heavily addicted to cocaine. Gotta come up with her collection though.
With personal experience I can assure you, the loss of the name is very important in the world of Fae. True Names are just as vital and lethal to them as they are to the Fallen. Which is why the loss that the Maeghar suffered is worse than genocide to an extent and why they no longer can make others like them unless they specifically hunt Fair Folk down to take away the Dreaming from them. An act that most Maeghar don't wish even upon a Kithan they could despise - but will do if they specifically need something that this individual may be able to do for them. Kiasyd is something they cannot say because the broken haven't stopped their hunt, if one type of butterfly were to meet the other - even these nights, it would either involve forced "recruitment" or final death. Fear and loss echo in the Maeghar's flight. Few are ever able to feel safe or familiar anywhere or with anyone - nor can they really congregate unless some group specifically goes out to collect them and they remember how well that went with Marconius's brood. They are strange to Humans, Vampire and Changlings and they are all Caitiff to each other. Ironically something mirrored even by the Weirdlings. I don't know if before the Dark Ages Fae Vampires had much of a presence to gather under anything as ostentatious as a clan. The Malkavians once also claimed to be fae touched, but their tongues dance and they know not what will wiggle out. When people believed in fae, they claimed all sorts of things and when that belief dried up and the world became more Banal; so too did even vampiric recollection or sight to find how much wyrd walks even under their noses. But then again, considering most kindred don't even know what Seelie or Unseelie courts are, this is possibly a blessing to keep them from all becoming slaves to True Fae in under 10 minutes. The Kiasyd have a much more uniform appearance, although they are as open to mutation as Maeghar. Typically tall, pale, black pupil-less eyes like a Lasombra that's drunk too much of the Abyss and occasionally can glow under moonlight. Think evil elves that may or may not have drinking preferences to virgins or children. Maeghar can be anything - from several armed spider-men to just unnatural beauty that draws people in. Probably another reason no butterfly can feel at ease even with one of their own kind. Violent reactions of soul and body dysmorphia from both individuals only seems to infuriate Kiasyd despite how cordial and polite their mannerisms may be. Maeghar are also polite to each other, maybe showing the other their famous odious collection, but they tend to just want to leave the other in peace and without incident more than dark wyrdlings. After the Chicago Agreement, more Lasombra are crossing over to the Camarilla and it would be foolish to not assume this wouldn't include Kiasyd. As to whether or not Ivory Tower will tolerate them less or more than the Sabbat, I cannot really know nor care if they were smart enough to destroy them. As they most likely will try to keep and use them. Which is always a bad idea because even if the original Mages that made them could be dead - or in Marconius's case possibly lost to the dark he mingled with; know that Kiasyd gather information instinctively. They were created for a purpose that something is still utilizing, something that is almost certainly not your ally. Something that likely nothing short than Maeghar could help regular kindred to deal with, but Kindred Society will never treat any Caitiff well enough to win any over to help them combat this unknown entity. Whether it be mage or fae, it has butterflies flapping in the dark to gather secrets, weaknesses and ancient pieces of power that not even the Tremere can hope to match.
Kiasyd is my favorite bloodline, they history gets more cool once you know how their history relates with the shadow court. But the Maeghar.. the worse v20 retcon..
"I'm a gem of precious stone, glittering or matte. Each corner, a harbinger of hate; each face, an oracle of fate. I unveil the future, and portray the present, but can't see the past. I lay dormant until I am cast. What am I?"
So, because of how I didn't like how the Maeghar turned out after the Dark Ages I... may have gone into a creative spur and... created stable bloodlines that banded together into their own sneaky covenant for (at first) mutual protection and now actually wanting a voice in modern Cainite society. Like the Maeghar, they gave up the name "Kiasyd", but unlike their more... anti-social cousins they retain identities wholly their own. Reason for the spur: Kiasyd are a fascinating bunch, being a hybrid of fae and Kindred and when I saw the Dark Age rules for them and the rules for Maeghar I was... inspired. Could feed a family of changelings with the amount of Glamour I invested in that creative act XD
yeah never was a fan that they didn't kept the Maeghar being able to pass on their fae powers like in dark ages, it just felt like a arbitrary choice to make them more unique from the Kiasyd despite continuity and precedent.
Would you please provide a source on Vampire Werewolf hybrids? Everything I've ever read from the WWApoc says that the Garou are immune to Caines curse?
*so,i know you probably heard of the kiasyd a couple times but let me tell you something. You do not want to mess with those guys. Why? Tell me something,of all the monsters in our world,whats the one that keeps you up at night? Us? Sure theres a couple tremere with oneiromancy or such powers,hell even a malkavian can scramble your psyche to something unrecognizable. But let me tell you when i say that the fae make even me shudder. How do i fear the kiasyd? I dont,not fully. I pity them as well. I met a kiasyd when i visted salem before i was lost to the worlds. An elder at that. Believe it or not she was as timid as they come,yet before i knew it,i heard neverending whispers,i saw things that werent there,and my flesh rotted and burned and i was left running for my life. And that was but one elder. The kiasyd are vampires sure and the blood of caine can corrupt even the noblest intent. But the kiasyd are something that puts the lasombra and tzimice combined to shame. They are neither of this mortal plane nor of the dreaming,living dreams turned nightmares cought between a limbo in every since. Sure the changelings aren't the strongest supernatural. But a kiasyd is something of horror incarnate. They physicaly dont belong in any reality and they know it, kindred even of there kind feel unease around them. Take it from a ravnos whos been stuck wandering and learning. When you deal with faeries,you will always come out wondering if you can call yourself sane.* -a recording of a ravnos scholar aware of the kiasyd
Oh my fellow scholars, these kind of bloodline are the most wonderful of seekers of knowledge, Gangrel could learn a lot from them ))) fae magic is so much unexplored within KINDRED society, perhaps they are an example of what we could be Now about their feeling habits, draining their victims dry. .. they wouldn't have been it any other way ahahahahahah
Well, if you haven't gained enough inspiration from the podcast episode, here's a free one for you: do whatever you want. Remember that vampires were people once with goals and personalities. Being a vampire would mould that, but it shouldn't define them. Create the concept before you define the vampire.
I really enjoy this podcast. There are some continuous mispronunciations that are a bit distracting, like the word 'denizen.' In this episode 'oubliette,' in another 'Constantinople,' and in another 'vicissitude.'
Marvel: Infinity War is the most ambitious crossover event in history.
White Wolf: Does anybody want to play an elf vampire with changeling magic?
White Wolf were ahead of their time!
neat
"The Kiasyd DISTURB the Tzimisce; that is how vile and twisted the Kiasyd can be."
That's pretty METAL!
"I fear no man. But that... thing... it scares me." - Mikhail of Clan Tzimisce
Basically Lasombra On Drugs
You ain't wrong 😂
You say that like it's a bad thing!
Clan Lasombra + LSD = Kiasyd
Excellent video about my favourite bloodline.
Thank you kindly my good sir!
I had a Kiasyd as the main antagonist for a campaign as my players owed a fae a favor lol. Unfortunately we never finished y
I'll never be able to look at a kia c'eed the same way again
Holy hell! Kiasyds are more frightening that I expected!
They are much more than sit in a library and read books all night long
They can teleport wherever they want & are able to screw up your mind real bad.
I was literally just talking to someone about the Kiasyd today. You must have a few dots in Presence, darling 😏
Or a few in Auspex 😉
The idea of a redcap-blooded Malkavian should frighten anyone who knows of the possibilty of such a terrifying amalgam. Though I also wonder how many sidhe-blooded Kinain have already been embraced by Toreador...
To break tradition somewhat, I made a Kiasyd who was going through her rebellious phase. Joined a band, slept around, was heavily addicted to cocaine. Gotta come up with her collection though.
With personal experience I can assure you, the loss of the name is very important in the world of Fae. True Names are just as vital and lethal to them as they are to the Fallen. Which is why the loss that the Maeghar suffered is worse than genocide to an extent and why they no longer can make others like them unless they specifically hunt Fair Folk down to take away the Dreaming from them. An act that most Maeghar don't wish even upon a Kithan they could despise - but will do if they specifically need something that this individual may be able to do for them. Kiasyd is something they cannot say because the broken haven't stopped their hunt, if one type of butterfly were to meet the other - even these nights, it would either involve forced "recruitment" or final death. Fear and loss echo in the Maeghar's flight. Few are ever able to feel safe or familiar anywhere or with anyone - nor can they really congregate unless some group specifically goes out to collect them and they remember how well that went with Marconius's brood. They are strange to Humans, Vampire and Changlings and they are all Caitiff to each other. Ironically something mirrored even by the Weirdlings.
I don't know if before the Dark Ages Fae Vampires had much of a presence to gather under anything as ostentatious as a clan. The Malkavians once also claimed to be fae touched, but their tongues dance and they know not what will wiggle out. When people believed in fae, they claimed all sorts of things and when that belief dried up and the world became more Banal; so too did even vampiric recollection or sight to find how much wyrd walks even under their noses. But then again, considering most kindred don't even know what Seelie or Unseelie courts are, this is possibly a blessing to keep them from all becoming slaves to True Fae in under 10 minutes.
The Kiasyd have a much more uniform appearance, although they are as open to mutation as Maeghar. Typically tall, pale, black pupil-less eyes like a Lasombra that's drunk too much of the Abyss and occasionally can glow under moonlight. Think evil elves that may or may not have drinking preferences to virgins or children. Maeghar can be anything - from several armed spider-men to just unnatural beauty that draws people in. Probably another reason no butterfly can feel at ease even with one of their own kind. Violent reactions of soul and body dysmorphia from both individuals only seems to infuriate Kiasyd despite how cordial and polite their mannerisms may be. Maeghar are also polite to each other, maybe showing the other their famous odious collection, but they tend to just want to leave the other in peace and without incident more than dark wyrdlings.
After the Chicago Agreement, more Lasombra are crossing over to the Camarilla and it would be foolish to not assume this wouldn't include Kiasyd. As to whether or not Ivory Tower will tolerate them less or more than the Sabbat, I cannot really know nor care if they were smart enough to destroy them. As they most likely will try to keep and use them. Which is always a bad idea because even if the original Mages that made them could be dead - or in Marconius's case possibly lost to the dark he mingled with; know that Kiasyd gather information instinctively. They were created for a purpose that something is still utilizing, something that is almost certainly not your ally. Something that likely nothing short than Maeghar could help regular kindred to deal with, but Kindred Society will never treat any Caitiff well enough to win any over to help them combat this unknown entity. Whether it be mage or fae, it has butterflies flapping in the dark to gather secrets, weaknesses and ancient pieces of power that not even the Tremere can hope to match.
The Maeghar (née "Kiasyd") are tied with the Lamiae as my favorite **non-core clan** bloodline. Masterfully done, milord.
I love the Lamiae too, who will also be getting a episode soon...
Ahi Hay Lilitu! All is ashes now.
Hail Lilith!
Kiasyd is my favorite bloodline, they history gets more cool once you know how their history relates with the shadow court.
But the Maeghar.. the worse v20 retcon..
I think the treatment in V20 Dark Ages is cooler than the Maeghar in V20 True Black Hand book.
"I'm a gem of precious stone, glittering or matte. Each corner, a harbinger of hate; each face, an oracle of fate. I unveil the future, and portray the present, but can't see the past. I lay dormant until I am cast. What am I?"
Nice.
I'd love a video covering vampire hunters
I have one already! Find 'The Inquisition' episode
Ah, the kiasyd. One of my favorite bloodlines, excited to see you cover them. 🖤 Hope we get new lore for them in V5 a some point.
Found your podcast just the other week, and've listened to every episode now. Amazing work; really fills the nights with something special.
Thanks so much! Glad you've been enjoying the Lore By Night podcast!
So, because of how I didn't like how the Maeghar turned out after the Dark Ages I... may have gone into a creative spur and... created stable bloodlines that banded together into their own sneaky covenant for (at first) mutual protection and now actually wanting a voice in modern Cainite society. Like the Maeghar, they gave up the name "Kiasyd", but unlike their more... anti-social cousins they retain identities wholly their own. Reason for the spur: Kiasyd are a fascinating bunch, being a hybrid of fae and Kindred and when I saw the Dark Age rules for them and the rules for Maeghar I was... inspired. Could feed a family of changelings with the amount of Glamour I invested in that creative act XD
Ok, this was excellent!
Update this far in, and loving every sec of it
yeah never was a fan that they didn't kept the Maeghar being able to pass on their fae powers like in dark ages, it just felt like a arbitrary choice to make them more unique from the Kiasyd despite continuity and precedent.
Makes me wonder what happens other kindred drink fae blood, and/or mix said blood with other special blood
They become Maeghar
@@LoreByNightVtM I am sorry but what is different of kasiyd and a maeghar like in dentil?
Would you please provide a source on Vampire Werewolf hybrids? Everything I've ever read from the WWApoc says that the Garou are immune to Caines curse?
They are called Abominations. They have their own wiki page. They are also mentioned in the V20 book "The Black Hand: Guide To The Tal'Mahe'Ra
*so,i know you probably heard of the kiasyd a couple times but let me tell you something. You do not want to mess with those guys. Why?
Tell me something,of all the monsters in our world,whats the one that keeps you up at night? Us? Sure theres a couple tremere with oneiromancy or such powers,hell even a malkavian can scramble your psyche to something unrecognizable. But let me tell you when i say that the fae make even me shudder. How do i fear the kiasyd? I dont,not fully. I pity them as well. I met a kiasyd when i visted salem before i was lost to the worlds. An elder at that. Believe it or not she was as timid as they come,yet before i knew it,i heard neverending whispers,i saw things that werent there,and my flesh rotted and burned and i was left running for my life. And that was but one elder. The kiasyd are vampires sure and the blood of caine can corrupt even the noblest intent. But the kiasyd are something that puts the lasombra and tzimice combined to shame. They are neither of this mortal plane nor of the dreaming,living dreams turned nightmares cought between a limbo in every since. Sure the changelings aren't the strongest supernatural. But a kiasyd is something of horror incarnate. They physicaly dont belong in any reality and they know it, kindred even of there kind feel unease around them. Take it from a ravnos whos been stuck wandering and learning. When you deal with faeries,you will always come out wondering if you can call yourself sane.* -a recording of a ravnos scholar aware of the kiasyd
I'm sorry. I was **trying** to pay attention to what you were saying but Vampire Legolas keeps taking the hobbits to Isengard.
Masterpiece
Love the accent :)
Thanks 😊
I always pronounced it Kai-ah-sid.
would it be able to play a Kiasyd in a player session or is it just not possible? hemmm
It is, but it depends on which edition
Oh my fellow scholars, these kind of bloodline are the most wonderful of seekers of knowledge, Gangrel could learn a lot from them ))) fae magic is so much unexplored within KINDRED society, perhaps they are an example of what we could be
Now about their feeling habits, draining their victims dry.
.. they wouldn't have been it any other way ahahahahahah
OMG you sound SO Beckett
Revenge i want stole all my ketamine the kiasyd did
Anyone have any role play tips for playing a Kiasyd? As I'm playing one in a upcoming game
Well, if you haven't gained enough inspiration from the podcast episode, here's a free one for you: do whatever you want. Remember that vampires were people once with goals and personalities. Being a vampire would mould that, but it shouldn't define them. Create the concept before you define the vampire.
@@LoreByNightVtM that's the best answer. I always say that too, a Cainite doesn't just stop being the person they used to be.
@@LoreByNightVtM thank you!
No problem 😊
@@LoreByNightVtM A-effin'-men!!!!
I dunno, sound like a couple upstanding chaps to me
How Now spirit? Wither wander you?
🤷♂️
Lore By Night I was referencing a Midsummer Nights Dream. You know, because it has all the fairies and stuff. I dunno, I thought it was cute
I did not know. Sorry, didn't study that at school! 😅
Like Cain, FIRST!
I really enjoy this podcast. There are some continuous mispronunciations that are a bit distracting, like the word 'denizen.' In this episode 'oubliette,' in another 'Constantinople,' and in another 'vicissitude.'
You gave with one hand and took with several others...
@@LoreByNightVtM well they're probably tzimisce, which would explain why they're upset about 'vicissitude'
Haha prodigals are funny
You HAVE to drop the accent. When you don’t pull it off, you REALLY don’t. It’s completely distracting.
No. No I don't, because that is what I sound like.
Its called being British, which I assume he is
Correct!
@@LoreByNightVtM You have been unmasked, Lorey! Soon they shall raid your haven in Alabama!
Pray tell, fool. What do you THINK a British person should sound like?