I love how this battle was incredibly intense, with heavy losses on both sides, and you're never sure who's going to win. And then in the end, even though the tau technically won, the Imperium just says "ah, fuck it" and burns the planet to ashes. Gotta love the the Imperium of Man, even when they lose they win.
@@alexbelle3941 This is 40k if you think they are above glassing a planet you don't understand 40k. this was an act of war to weaken the tau empire and prevent them holding an important world
Most interesting element of this battle imo was Farsight's dramatic intervention. The real explanation is probably just 'plot convenience', but i feel compelled to point out that relatively precise timing like Farsight's 8th's arrival right smack during the battle is implausible for Tau forces that aren't already stationed close by, since they can't space-travel nearly as fast as most of the other major races. so either the explanation is plot convenience (i.e. a plot hole, in other words) as I said, or Farsight has some interesting powers of foresight.
I think if the Tau had had come to power at some other time in history, they may have had a much better chance. But as it stands now... It matters little how advanced their tech is. Their lack of numbers, and care for other living beings, means their certain doom. Any of the factions in the galaxy, if not so preoccupied with each other, could easily extinguish the Tau Empire. The Orks and Tyranids with shear numbers, the Imperium with better soldiers, and the Necrons or Eldar with superior technology. Not to mention Chaos and their corruption... Corrupt one Ethereal, and BOOM, control a portion of the entire Tau species. Just... A bad time to try their hand at the galactic table.
Not being disrespectful, but your thesis there is exactly wrong. Please let me explain. If the Tau had shown up in a less stressful time for the Imperium, they'd have been doomed. As things currently are, they're actually rising at the best possible time for their chances. Do you realize just how stretched Tyranid incursions into the Milky Way are making Imperium forces? Take a look at this: vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/8/8a/Tyranid_Hive_Fleets_Galaxy_Map.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140512084816. Now throw in Failbaddon finally opening the way for free incursions into Imperial space from the Eye, and the Imperium is in the most existential danger its been in since the Horus Heresy. The Imperium cannot marshal the massive forces necessary to wipe out the Tau without effectively surrendering other vast portions of their empire to other factions, maybe even endangering Terra itself; even with all their trillions, the Imperium is barely holding on in the 42nd millennium. Or in other words, the Milky Way is presently more of a free-for-all than it's ever been before, with the Imperium inevitably the beacon drawing everyone's attention... attention away from the Tau. Now with Leviathan seeming to be intent on reaching Terra, Abbadon obviously fixated solely on Terra, the Necron most interested in Mars and the Mechanicus, the Eldar not really interested in expansion at all, and the Orcs ever content to be disunited... this is an ideal time for a small empire on the fringes like the Tau to quietly slip in and gain an ever strengthening foothold, all the while making rapid technological advances at an unprecedented rate, provoking comparisons to humanity at the beginning of the Dark Age of Technology. And, obviously, all of this is exactly what GW's fluff writers have in mind.
Andrew Ryan aren't ethereals imune to chaos the entire Tau race has little presence in the warp and they'll don't even believe in chaos so they are no no means easy to corrupt
CognizantCheddar I can see your point, and I know that obviously they won't be extinguished like they should be for both fluff and crunch reasons, but it's not the Imperium I see as the biggest threat to them. As a matter of fact, their current state of peaceful negotiations with the Imperium is probably their best hope to survive. The only reason they keep surviving in the face of a new Xeno incursion (so far only Tyranid and Necrons) is because the Imperium was there to assist them against a shared threat. I think they would be mostly fine in an unassisted confrontation with Eldar... But an Ork WAAAAGH! ? The Tau are horrible at close range and have a small number of soldiers. The green tide specializes in hack and slashing with overwhelming forces. We'll have to wait and see what deus ex machina technology the Tau use to win, or which race helps them out of it. Also, minor addendum, the Necrons aren't really all that interested in Mars. The majority of the faction is shattered and independent. They have varying goals. However, a big shared focus seems to be the destruction of the Hive Fleets. The Tau are cool. They remind me of very early humanity (Dark Age of Technology) but at an exponentially faster technological growth rate. Adaptable or not, not a single person can honestly deny that unless they are helped in some form or another by the Imperium, they will not survive against the other races. Not yet, anyways. They are too young, too few, too hopeful, too ambitious. They have a long way to go before they can truly protect their own existence against the other major factions of the galaxy.
Alec Adanglao definitely! I'm a fan of the battlesuits but Imperium of Man forever! For The Emperor! Purge the Xenos Scum! Burn their hides from our Galaxy
First, where can I find this lore in books? Actual literature or just inside campaign books for the tabletop? Aun'va needed to go. He ruled for too long for an ethereal. Also, aren't the Tau supposed to have a strong resistance to warp/psyker mind abilities? Not impervious but thught it would be stronger than what Aun'va's retinue showed.
This lore is from the two campaign books "War Zone Damocles: Kauyon" and "War Zone Damocles: Mont'ka". These books contains lore and rules for the forces fighting on planet Agrellan, or Mu'gulath Bay as it is called by the Tau. There are novels about this conflict as well from book store Black Library.
They don’t have resistance so much as they are just less visible due to their weak souls. While Culexus Assassins are mainly anti-Psyker, they can still kill pretty much anyone else with a psychic blast from that Animus Spectrum. And Aun’va’s biggest issue was that he decided to play military commander. The Ethereals are not supposed to be making these decisions; instead that’s the job of the caste leaders and the main commander (Shadowsun). Ethereals are supposed to be spiritual leaders. Yet here Aun’va is giving orders to Shadowsun, some of which turn out to be disastrous (such as insisting on visiting the battle in-person).
The most famous are Puretide, Farsight, Shadowsun. Puretide is basically the Socrates to Farsight/Shadowsun's Aristotle. Shadowsun seems to be pretty overrated. Farsight doesn't age anymore because his super ancient (and of unknown origins) Dawnblade is vampiric and extending his life just about indefinitely. According to the timeline and old codices, basically every named Tau commander in the fluff aside from Farsight should be dead by now from old age, because Tau are supposed to have an average lifespan of only 40 years or something. I think that's being retconned, though, because it's not useful to GW for merchandise purposes for the best known Tau characters to die off so quickly.
Ah we the have newest in tau battle suit designed just for you shadow sun! said the earth cast engineer! well what it called asked shodowsun, well said the engineer in the spirit of Tau deux ex machina
lmao as I was typing how this should be a videogame, you said I wish this was a videogame lol. definitely should be. there's plenty of material for another game right here
After all that they end up using Exterminatus!!! DAFAQ??? should of done that in the first place, instead of loosing tens of thousands of guardsmen and equipment. Not to mention Astartes and an entire assassin squad... what did they think would of happened ???
Your god dam right we needed to use Exterminatus after all that, that's how Man rolls. The point needed to be made to make those filthy, xeno, heretical, space commies understand that you don't fuck with the mighty Imperium of Man.
I'm just hoping at the very least Guilliman will convince the mechanicus to stop the stagnation of tech, if we had the level of tech humanity had during the dark age of technology the Tau would be singing a very different tune as far as trying to take over everything...largely in the vain of "We the Tau are sorry for punching the bigger kid in the face and we will just go back to our side of the galaxy...please do not follow and kill us all". Or they would just surrender.
High-Marshal_Jaeger The Imperium could very easily destroy the tau (and by easily, I mean a small, perhaps a medium, crusade at most would be sufficient), but there are more threatening ennemies to take care of first
Heavy heart Yeah, you fucking cheaters had your own traitor helping you. If Failbaddon helped us during the battle, then you'd have easily lost, but yeah, doesn't work like that
I love how this battle was incredibly intense, with heavy losses on both sides, and you're never sure who's going to win. And then in the end, even though the tau technically won, the Imperium just says "ah, fuck it" and burns the planet to ashes. Gotta love the the Imperium of Man, even when they lose they win.
Fable Wolfe
Those heavy losses mean nothing to the imperium though, however the tau are already running low on resources and don't have the man power
11:30. OK so in this scenario, the Imperium are the covenant glassing the planet after losing ground Assault.
Agreed. Sore losers have to resort to a chicken shit tactic like this...
@@alexbelle3941 This is 40k if you think they are above glassing a planet you don't understand 40k. this was an act of war to weaken the tau empire and prevent them holding an important world
Literally the only reason the tau haven't been wiped out is because every other faction have better things to do.
Do more of these lore videos on battles! You've inspired my hobby heart, and now I'm going to make a conversion of the Raven Guard Chapter Master.
One of the best story narrations you've ever done, love the event by event timeline, really could imagine the battles as they were carried out
I think this is my favorite battle yet, there was a struggle on both sides, awesome video =]!!!
You should do one on Honsou of the iron warriors. Or one on the rivalry between uriel ventris and honsou
F*ck yeah! Honsou vs Ventris or Vaanes vs Grendel
Most interesting element of this battle imo was Farsight's dramatic intervention.
The real explanation is probably just 'plot convenience', but i feel compelled to point out that relatively precise timing like Farsight's 8th's arrival right smack during the battle is implausible for Tau forces that aren't already stationed close by, since they can't space-travel nearly as fast as most of the other major races. so either the explanation is plot convenience (i.e. a plot hole, in other words) as I said, or Farsight has some interesting powers of foresight.
Another possibility is that Farsight deliberately waited to make sure his intervention put him in the Tau’s good graces.
really enjoying these battle lore videos, keep them coming and keep up the great work 👍
Easily the best Lore video to date. Great job guys! Awesome battle that I wish was a video game or something
Farsight just had to inexplicably come and save the day in every single way...
The assassinorum began picking tau pathfinders one by one... Why is this not a movie yet? By far the most tactical battle
I think if the Tau had had come to power at some other time in history, they may have had a much better chance. But as it stands now... It matters little how advanced their tech is. Their lack of numbers, and care for other living beings, means their certain doom. Any of the factions in the galaxy, if not so preoccupied with each other, could easily extinguish the Tau Empire. The Orks and Tyranids with shear numbers, the Imperium with better soldiers, and the Necrons or Eldar with superior technology. Not to mention Chaos and their corruption... Corrupt one Ethereal, and BOOM, control a portion of the entire Tau species. Just... A bad time to try their hand at the galactic table.
Not being disrespectful, but your thesis there is exactly wrong. Please let me explain.
If the Tau had shown up in a less stressful time for the Imperium, they'd have been doomed. As things currently are, they're actually rising at the best possible time for their chances.
Do you realize just how stretched Tyranid incursions into the Milky Way are making Imperium forces? Take a look at this: vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/8/8a/Tyranid_Hive_Fleets_Galaxy_Map.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140512084816. Now throw in Failbaddon finally opening the way for free incursions into Imperial space from the Eye, and the Imperium is in the most existential danger its been in since the Horus Heresy.
The Imperium cannot marshal the massive forces necessary to wipe out the Tau without effectively surrendering other vast portions of their empire to other factions, maybe even endangering Terra itself; even with all their trillions, the Imperium is barely holding on in the 42nd millennium.
Or in other words, the Milky Way is presently more of a free-for-all than it's ever been before, with the Imperium inevitably the beacon drawing everyone's attention... attention away from the Tau. Now with Leviathan seeming to be intent on reaching Terra, Abbadon obviously fixated solely on Terra, the Necron most interested in Mars and the Mechanicus, the Eldar not really interested in expansion at all, and the Orcs ever content to be disunited... this is an ideal time for a small empire on the fringes like the Tau to quietly slip in and gain an ever strengthening foothold, all the while making rapid technological advances at an unprecedented rate, provoking comparisons to humanity at the beginning of the Dark Age of Technology.
And, obviously, all of this is exactly what GW's fluff writers have in mind.
Andrew Ryan aren't ethereals imune to chaos the entire Tau race has little presence in the warp and they'll don't even believe in chaos so they are no no means easy to corrupt
Andrew Ryan the tau race have sth like half-soul and they feelings are not mirrored in warp so i think they are mostly immune to chaos powers
Andrew Ryan but other tau-imeprium species like kroots or vespidos (humans are in the tau imperium too) can be easly corrupted by chaos
CognizantCheddar
I can see your point, and I know that obviously they won't be extinguished like they should be for both fluff and crunch reasons, but it's not the Imperium I see as the biggest threat to them.
As a matter of fact, their current state of peaceful negotiations with the Imperium is probably their best hope to survive. The only reason they keep surviving in the face of a new Xeno incursion (so far only Tyranid and Necrons) is because the Imperium was there to assist them against a shared threat.
I think they would be mostly fine in an unassisted confrontation with Eldar... But an Ork WAAAAGH! ? The Tau are horrible at close range and have a small number of soldiers. The green tide specializes in hack and slashing with overwhelming forces. We'll have to wait and see what deus ex machina technology the Tau use to win, or which race helps them out of it.
Also, minor addendum, the Necrons aren't really all that interested in Mars. The majority of the faction is shattered and independent. They have varying goals. However, a big shared focus seems to be the destruction of the Hive Fleets.
The Tau are cool. They remind me of very early humanity (Dark Age of Technology) but at an exponentially faster technological growth rate. Adaptable or not, not a single person can honestly deny that unless they are helped in some form or another by the Imperium, they will not survive against the other races. Not yet, anyways. They are too young, too few, too hopeful, too ambitious. They have a long way to go before they can truly protect their own existence against the other major factions of the galaxy.
That eversor was a badass indeed
how the hell did the eversor bomb inside him nit go off when he died comepleting the mission?
Very cool, thanks!!
As much as i like tau battlesuits DEATH TO THE XENOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Alec Adanglao definitely! I'm a fan of the battlesuits but Imperium of Man forever! For The Emperor! Purge the Xenos Scum! Burn their hides from our Galaxy
I'd rather live in the Tau empire than the current Imperium any day. You do realize that the current Imperium is not what the Emperor wanted?
A modern warfare game based on this war would be awesome.
Suggestion: Another battle narrative, like this one. Any of them, really.
suggestion: sanctus reach
Suggestion:Trazin
Awesome battles! Where are the dark angels!
suggestions: wolf brothers and rainbow warriors
suggestion: machine spirit or battleships
SUGGESTION: THE BATTLE FOR GRASE MESA
Suggestion: Lore on Ahriman.
suggestion: mantis warriors
lol all the 8 have gang up on one assassin just to kill him. XD
SPACE COMMIES! where is the ANGRY MARINES when you need them?
nevermind that its only the imperium that has officers literally called 'commissars'
who doesn't love the Angry Marines, tho
Matt Im fucking here what do you fucking want.
Angry Marine. Why wasn't you guys deployed
in the trash bin
First, where can I find this lore in books? Actual literature or just inside campaign books for the tabletop?
Aun'va needed to go. He ruled for too long for an ethereal.
Also, aren't the Tau supposed to have a strong resistance to warp/psyker mind abilities? Not impervious but thught it would be stronger than what Aun'va's retinue showed.
This lore is from the two campaign books "War Zone Damocles: Kauyon" and "War Zone Damocles: Mont'ka". These books contains lore and rules for the forces fighting on planet Agrellan, or Mu'gulath Bay as it is called by the Tau. There are novels about this conflict as well from book store Black Library.
They don’t have resistance so much as they are just less visible due to their weak souls. While Culexus Assassins are mainly anti-Psyker, they can still kill pretty much anyone else with a psychic blast from that Animus Spectrum.
And Aun’va’s biggest issue was that he decided to play military commander. The Ethereals are not supposed to be making these decisions; instead that’s the job of the caste leaders and the main commander (Shadowsun). Ethereals are supposed to be spiritual leaders. Yet here Aun’va is giving orders to Shadowsun, some of which turn out to be disastrous (such as insisting on visiting the battle in-person).
where is part 1?
Suggestion: The drop site massacre
Azek Ahriman next plss
Question: What are all known Tau major commanders?
Also, can I win please please please? haha
The most famous are Puretide, Farsight, Shadowsun. Puretide is basically the Socrates to Farsight/Shadowsun's Aristotle. Shadowsun seems to be pretty overrated. Farsight doesn't age anymore because his super ancient (and of unknown origins) Dawnblade is vampiric and extending his life just about indefinitely.
According to the timeline and old codices, basically every named Tau commander in the fluff aside from Farsight should be dead by now from old age, because Tau are supposed to have an average lifespan of only 40 years or something. I think that's being retconned, though, because it's not useful to GW for merchandise purposes for the best known Tau characters to die off so quickly.
Wait the supreme leader of tau empire was killed, what the hell was he doing in the middle of a war zone?
For the greater good I guess
i Love you guys!
....eth-eer-eal.
Great!
Bro please narrate damocles battle
The Tau are awesome.
Ah we the have newest in tau battle suit designed just for you shadow sun! said the earth cast engineer! well what it called asked shodowsun, well said the engineer in the spirit of Tau deux ex machina
lmao as I was typing how this should be a videogame, you said I wish this was a videogame lol. definitely should be. there's plenty of material for another game right here
Neat :o
After all that they end up using Exterminatus!!! DAFAQ??? should of done that in the first place, instead of loosing tens of thousands of guardsmen and equipment. Not to mention Astartes and an entire assassin squad... what did they think would of happened ???
Your god dam right we needed to use Exterminatus after all that, that's how Man rolls. The point needed to be made to make those filthy, xeno, heretical, space commies understand that you don't fuck with the mighty Imperium of Man.
I'm just hoping at the very least Guilliman will convince the mechanicus to stop the stagnation of tech, if we had the level of tech humanity had during the dark age of technology the Tau would be singing a very different tune as far as trying to take over everything...largely in the vain of "We the Tau are sorry for punching the bigger kid in the face and we will just go back to our side of the galaxy...please do not follow and kill us all". Or they would just surrender.
High-Marshal_Jaeger The Imperium could very easily destroy the tau (and by easily, I mean a small, perhaps a medium, crusade at most would be sufficient), but there are more threatening ennemies to take care of first
those Imperials are sore losers!
Heavy heart Yeah, you fucking cheaters had your own traitor helping you. If Failbaddon helped us during the battle, then you'd have easily lost, but yeah, doesn't work like that
+1
suggestion: mantis warriors