Was wondering when you would get to this one. This is actually courthouse parking and you’re pretty safe since you’re near the courthouse. I did jury duty hear in 2018 and as long as you’re here during the day it’s fine.
As I've commented before, your malls out East anecdotally seem to be more multilevel "vertical" malls, while ours in the Midwest are more spread out. I'm sure it's a real estate/space issue, as the malls you've covered tend to be in more densely populated areas. It's always a treat seeing a different layout such as this.
Not even 30 minutes away from this mall is the more suburban, much larger Willowbrook Mall. That's where most people go to shop. Mass transit (bus) is easily available to get there.
Thanks for doing this video…..this mall is near my job and I’ve never been. I knew of it but due to the high crime area I never ventured to check it out. Well done!
The entrances to the mall and a lot of the stores look straight out of the 70s. Those metal frames. Totally baffled by this being built in the 2000’s! Very strange layout.
Even though the mall has a lot of vacancies the Marshalls does a lot of business which is why Burlington recently moved in. The design of the building is very odd but I think that's because of the way the land is on a hill.
Thanks for posting this one! I am a 4th gen central jersey guy, but luckily moved away many years ago after realizing NJ is a relentless hamster wheel of aggravation and expense. While I wanted to find something negative to focus on with this mall, I think it serves the community with function versus form. The highlight was definitely the faux facade of the movie theater entrance. They easily could have just had a marquee with the name, but they went the extra mile and made it look great! The grand center court staircase was also a highlight but only because it belongs in the disgusting parking decks at the old yankee stadium… 😂😂😂
One good thing about Patterson - nobody chasing you off for using a camera in the mall. Patterson used to be a nice working-class city, but not any more.
Didn't know this mall existed. I am about 45 minutes North of Paterson. In actuallity I am 45 minutes away from every large mall on both sides of NY/NJ border. This mall is definitely for people who don't drive. Less than 30 minutes west from there is the Willowbrook Mall. The highway (Rt.46) there is filled with strip malls and some big box stores the entire way. East will take you to the *Westfield Garden State, Paramus and Bergen Town Center malls. Paramus is just North of the other two and that highway (Rt. 17) is also full of strip malls of stores and stand alone box stores. The area, if you have your own transportation, is saturated with retail choices. The light traffic you saw was likely because of these other malls. September, after Labor Day, schools start up again here. So that may have actually been busy for the Paterson mall at that time. Oh, was that echo from recording or was it like that to your ear too? *Newest area mall (Expensive!)
I usually go to Downtown Paterson to thrift at the Unique located there and I haven’t really seen much crime that I know of. Then again, I’m only there for a thrift store and the the thrift stores I go to in the area are located away from Downtown Paterson.
As a rule of thumb, the lower ranking of the public schools, the more likely it is to require uniforms - at least in NJ. There are exceptions for certain programs in magnet/vocational schools for certain programs.
Seems fairly busy for a weekday, not really dead. Burlington opened in this mall last year & there’s a sign saying that Marshalls has been there since 2011.
Paterson USED to be nice about 60++ years ago one of the beautiful areas in Northen NJ but sadly the area is no more! I am an ex-Ringwood Pasic and I always love the area but no more HIGH crime very sad!
Hi Tom, This mall seems so much like a bus terminal than a relaxing atmosphere. The noise level for me would not have me coming back. Thanks for sharing this one!😂
Wow so I used to work at this mall. The blacked out windows to the front of the Burlington store used to be a Modells Sporting Goods. The uniform store used to be in one of the smaller vacant stores right after the Marshalls. The vacant spot right after the AT&T was a Verizon I believe, moved out of the mall while I was working there. Rest of the mall is exactly how it was. Same vacancies. There is a higher class restaurant with its own entrance outside the mall.
It's not I go here at least twice a month it's always busy, childrens place, marshalls, Burlington, supermarket, models used to be there, but I shop here with no problems finally don't have to leave my city to buy something I want or need
The lines in marshalls always long as hell, the ihop sucks real bad, there's a hair store, but it's in the middle of downtown so everybody is stretched out not couped up in the mall
The mall does give the appearance of never having been finished construction wise. The center staircase looks like an afterthought with basic structural steel and exposed pipes. It probably ran well over budget and elevators were left out. The mall is not very handicap friendly, probably just meets ADA minimums. Hard to believe someone would build a mall in 2008 with all of the other abandoned ones in the country.
After Fleabitten commented about the decreased crime rate in the area for the third or fourth time, I was half expecting him to be attacked within 5 seconds. Glad you weren't 😉
Schools don’t provide uniforms. That store probably sells uniforms for multiple school districts. And I’m not surprised how empty that mall is. I’m not traveling to Paterson to go to a mall.
I was a special education teacher in Paterson for 37 years. The Board of Education paid for teachers to park in the parking garage under the mall. I regularly frequented Price Rite, Marshalls and Ace Hardware, as well as the pizza parlor & food vendors such as Nathan's Famous Hot Dogs and Pollo Compero. Then they threw the teachers and jurors out and the mall went downhill. Bad decision to say the least 👎🏼
The fact that you actually had the audacity to say that center city is a dangerous place is absolutely ridiculous! There’s nothing there in the first place
Patterson is pretty scary. I’m from south NJ originally but my grandmother lived in Jersey City and for a time my mom lived in Patterson. It was not a good experience for her or my stepfather. I give you a lot of credit for going there to film this mall. I went to college in north Jersey and went to a restaurant once in Patterson. That mall looks very confusing and not practical. It looks very busy on the first 2 floors and has mostly major brand stores. I moved out of NJ the year this mall was built. I can’t foresee myself ever moving back.
this mall is considered dangerous? the mall is a ghost town yes but to my knowledge and many of my first-hand experiences of going here, i've never experienced anything that can cause harm to a person
This isnt dangerous. Dangerous is the streets outside of the building I would feel safer inside here than on the streets. I can't wait to return to the city to visit.
Was wondering when you would get to this one. This is actually courthouse parking and you’re pretty safe since you’re near the courthouse. I did jury duty hear in 2018 and as long as you’re here during the day it’s fine.
What a terrible floor plan. That has to be one of the worst designed malls I have ever seen.
As I've commented before, your malls out East anecdotally seem to be more multilevel "vertical" malls, while ours in the Midwest are more spread out. I'm sure it's a real estate/space issue, as the malls you've covered tend to be in more densely populated areas. It's always a treat seeing a different layout such as this.
Not even 30 minutes away from this mall is the more suburban, much larger Willowbrook Mall. That's where most people go to shop. Mass transit (bus) is easily available to get there.
I can't believe the designers of the mall chose.....that...for the mall's look. I bet the mall looked like crap from Day 1.
They definitely had failure in mind retail wise when they built it to me. Cheaper conversion into office space if it did go under.
I’ll admit, I was 13/14 the day we drove by it when it was done and I was displeased with it because it just looked so…. Bland and ugly.
The school year starts shortly after Labor Day on the East coast. Many uniformed schools require you to buy the uniforms, hence the moms and kids.
Thanks for doing this video…..this mall is near my job and I’ve never been. I knew of it but due to the high crime area I never ventured to check it out. Well done!
The shopping carts have to be a total headache for stores and people
1:56 - Is this "Price Rite", the grocery by Wakefern/ShopRite?
The entrances to the mall and a lot of the stores look straight out of the 70s. Those metal frames. Totally baffled by this being built in the 2000’s! Very strange layout.
Even though the mall has a lot of vacancies the Marshalls does a lot of business which is why Burlington recently moved in. The design of the building is very odd but I think that's because of the way the land is on a hill.
Thanks for posting this one! I am a 4th gen central jersey guy, but luckily moved away many years ago after realizing NJ is a relentless hamster wheel of aggravation and expense. While I wanted to find something negative to focus on with this mall, I think it serves the community with function versus form. The highlight was definitely the faux facade of the movie theater entrance. They easily could have just had a marquee with the name, but they went the extra mile and made it look great! The grand center court staircase was also a highlight but only because it belongs in the disgusting parking decks at the old yankee stadium… 😂😂😂
Kevin Maas still shops there
@@SSNESS I remember when his rookie cards were hundreds of dollars!
At minute 10:37 looking out the window is the location of Westside Story film.
Really? I didn't know that.
@fleabittenadventures parking lot and city hall was used to film scenes.
This is Jets territory. If you look closely at right center screen, you can see Tony & Maria's Italian Puerto Rican Ristorante.
If you want to see a truly dead mall visit Lebanon valley Mall in Lebanon, Pennsylvania.
Or Park City Mall in Lancaster Pa , dead too, except for the Apple Store.
One good thing about Patterson - nobody chasing you off for using a camera in the mall. Patterson used to be a nice working-class city, but not any more.
This is the least "mall" feeling mall I've ever seen.
It was very odd.
There was an entertainment arcade center called "Planet 301" which used to be across from the movie theater, guessing that shut down.
yea its burlington co store now
Didn't know this mall existed. I am about 45 minutes North of Paterson. In actuallity I am 45 minutes away from every large mall on both sides of NY/NJ border. This mall is definitely for people who don't drive. Less than 30 minutes west from there is the Willowbrook Mall. The highway (Rt.46) there is filled with strip malls and some big box stores the entire way. East will take you to the *Westfield Garden State, Paramus and Bergen Town Center malls. Paramus is just North of the other two and that highway (Rt. 17) is also full of strip malls of stores and stand alone box stores. The area, if you have your own transportation, is saturated with retail choices. The light traffic you saw was likely because of these other malls. September, after Labor Day, schools start up again here. So that may have actually been busy for the Paterson mall at that time.
Oh, was that echo from recording or was it like that to your ear too?
*Newest area mall (Expensive!)
I usually go to Downtown Paterson to thrift at the Unique located there and I haven’t really seen much crime that I know of. Then again, I’m only there for a thrift store and the the thrift stores I go to in the area are located away from Downtown Paterson.
@4:24 That used to be a Verizon Fios for home cable internet etc. Many people go there to pay their Verizon bills.
As a rule of thumb, the lower ranking of the public schools, the more likely it is to require uniforms - at least in NJ. There are exceptions for certain programs in magnet/vocational schools for certain programs.
Think Catholic schools before you assume rankings dictate a uniform mandate next time.
@@betornween I specified public - not private.
Seems fairly busy for a weekday, not really dead. Burlington opened in this mall last year & there’s a sign saying that Marshalls has been there since 2011.
Paterson USED to be nice about 60++ years ago one of the beautiful areas in Northen NJ but sadly the area is no more! I am an ex-Ringwood Pasic and I always love the area but no more HIGH crime very sad!
Thanks for the update. Why is the mall dangerous?
I explained that in the video. According to many articles, it's a dangerous area. The crime rate is 83% higher than the rest of New Jersey. Etc
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Why? Cause Paterson is a shithole
The mall isn't dangerous... the outer area is. I've never heard of any crime happening in the mall honestly.
Hi Tom, This mall seems so much like a bus terminal than a relaxing atmosphere. The noise level for me would not have me coming back.
Thanks for sharing this one!😂
Been in that mall many times in P town safe but a bad interior design. Good to have inside parking because street parking is tight.
Wow so I used to work at this mall. The blacked out windows to the front of the Burlington store used to be a Modells Sporting Goods. The uniform store used to be in one of the smaller vacant stores right after the Marshalls. The vacant spot right after the AT&T was a Verizon I believe, moved out of the mall while I was working there. Rest of the mall is exactly how it was. Same vacancies. There is a higher class restaurant with its own entrance outside the mall.
i’ve seen way more dangerous malls than this.
thank you. I had no idea which shops were in there since the mall hasn't updated their web site in almost 3 years. I had assumed it had shut down.
Looks clean and busy for a Tuesday afternoon. Not a dead mall at all.
It's not I go here at least twice a month it's always busy, childrens place, marshalls, Burlington, supermarket, models used to be there, but I shop here with no problems finally don't have to leave my city to buy something I want or need
The lines in marshalls always long as hell, the ihop sucks real bad, there's a hair store, but it's in the middle of downtown so everybody is stretched out not couped up in the mall
The mall does give the appearance of never having been finished construction wise. The center staircase looks like an afterthought with basic structural steel and exposed pipes. It probably ran well over budget and elevators were left out. The mall is not very handicap friendly, probably just meets ADA minimums. Hard to believe someone would build a mall in 2008 with all of the other abandoned ones in the country.
i grew up in paterson nj from 1974 to 2023
If you want to see it really busy you should visit it at the first of the month.. but is not dangerous at all love my city 👊🏽
100 millions in Paterson means maybe 20 millions to the actual construction lol
After Fleabitten commented about the decreased crime rate in the area for the third or fourth time, I was half expecting him to be attacked within 5 seconds. Glad you weren't 😉
Schools don’t provide uniforms. That store probably sells uniforms for multiple school districts. And I’m not surprised how empty that mall is. I’m not traveling to Paterson to go to a mall.
How do the physically disabled get around? There must be whole batch of ADA violations.
The mall looks like very worn being built in the early 2000s.
I was a special education teacher in Paterson for 37 years. The Board of Education paid for teachers to park in the parking garage under the mall. I regularly frequented Price Rite, Marshalls and Ace Hardware, as well as the pizza parlor & food vendors such as Nathan's Famous Hot Dogs and Pollo Compero. Then they threw the teachers and jurors out and the mall went downhill. Bad decision to say the least 👎🏼
The fact that you actually had the audacity to say that center city is a dangerous place is absolutely ridiculous! There’s nothing there in the first place
Patterson is pretty scary. I’m from south NJ originally but my grandmother lived in Jersey City and for a time my mom lived in Patterson. It was not a good experience for her or my stepfather. I give you a lot of credit for going there to film this mall. I went to college in north Jersey and went to a restaurant once in Patterson. That mall looks very confusing and not practical. It looks very busy on the first 2 floors and has mostly major brand stores. I moved out of NJ the year this mall was built. I can’t foresee myself ever moving back.
I know that place well. Look how much you had to move out of the way of the other oblivious people.
Lived in NJ all my 57 years and never knew this mall existed. Paterson Falls would have been a more interesting visit for u imho
I was born in Paterson, New Jersey. I can vouch that the city is indeed a 100% 💩🕳️. 👌
So you were born in a s#ithole…Got it
Still miss paterson.. at least pre 2011 era
I been going there since they openned and İ love it
So excited
It’s on I 80 across the George Washington bridge
1:10 i thought that was a publix for a sec
You just described every mall in the United States in 2023.
Rubin “ Hurricane” Carter
NPCs are wild around there. Be safe man!
For real lol
this mall is considered dangerous? the mall is a ghost town yes but to my knowledge and many of my first-hand experiences of going here, i've never experienced anything that can cause harm to a person
It’s not dangerous in that mall at all
This isnt dangerous. Dangerous is the streets outside of the building
I would feel safer inside here than on the streets. I can't wait to return to the city to visit.
I like the 1st 2nd and 3rd flooors
Paterson, NJ; birthplace of the rapper Fetty Wap
You couldn’t pay me enough to live in New Joysey. I’d rather be poor and living in a trailer in Florida than live in Jersey.
Looks like Irving Mall in Irving Tx
Paterson, as the kids would say, is the "straight up hood" .. I doubt you'd disagree 🤪
Oh my,this mall seems so dangerous. 🙄
Only thing useful there is MAYBE the Marshalls for some quick pairs of socks/undies’…. And the overpriced “convenience” store 😂
I know why there's so much crime in the area.
I used to buy heroin in the parking deck area there very dangerous area indeed
Should add paintball and rock climbing spot
They shoot each other enough there already
Yo ive been there before!
It's next to social security they'll make money at the beginning of the month
Paterson is dangerous mall or no mall.
Thank you for this- we planned a vacation in Paterson, and changed our mind after watching this.
That's... really dumb.
@@liliesrnice
You think we should reconsider vacationing there?
Holyoke mall Holyoke,Ma has stairs in the middle
Square one mall Saugus ma as well
So does Milford, Conn
Poor people. Low wages.
Eeeeeeeee!
That mall has absolutely no style and looks like a multi tenant Walmart. Also why are two Burlingtons in the same shopping mall.
It's a two floor Burlington
Find thr alive malls. White Marsh Mall.
In Paterson, that's just the way things go
If you're black you might as well not show up on the street
'Less you want to draw the heat
Bob Dylan
Yeah umm the mall is pretty safe. I would know just saying
yeah...That's mall is ratchet AF.
gross mall and gross place to live. I do not go to Paterson and when I have it is usually driving through
I don't plan to go back anytime soon.
😂😂😂 brah no hope
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I'm starting to see why they call Jersey "The dumpster of NYC".
its a...cultural mall
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This mall is weird i think its because they never finished the ceiling off, HVAC duct work like that visible is ugly in my opinion.