CROSS PURPOSES Is one of the most criminally underated albums of all time!!!! Songs like : CROSS OF THORNS, DYING FOR LOVE, IMMACULATE DECEPTION,THE HAND THAT ROCKS THE CRADLE and BACK TO EDEN are Masterpieces!!!! IOMMI IS A GENIUS!!! I Love the Tony Martin era!!!!
Great documentary. Cross Purposes was my first Black Sabbath album I got as new. I also bought the live CD and the VHS. I watched it over and over. Tony Martin is an awesome singer.
@@SeanSimps3-vi5ls Lol, stop, be nice now. Lol, it’s always a good thing when our youth likes guitar driven music. Rather than this Cicada tapping drum thing and their robotic autotune vocals, hip-hop trash! That’s one weirdest things that I can’t figure out. Why do they have that Cicada sound in every fucking lousy song?
Sabbath had so many different line ups, any documentary about these line ups is worth its weight in gold. Thank you so much for making this documentary.
www.barnesandnoble.com/w/black-sabbath-crosses-and-thorns-the-tony-martin-years-edward-wilson-baggett/1121652184 I wrote a book on the Tony Martin years of the band, if you are interested
Truly awesome documentary! I remember this time period. I remember buying that album and the live cd/VHS concert video. Some of these interviews in this documentary though are killer to see since they were never aired in the U.S. till You Tube came out unless they were on a bootleg video. I love seeing this. I love every era of Sabbath!
6:35 - Technical Ecstasy and Never Say Die have a lot of keyboards on them. It started with Paranoid (1970) and from there, there was more and more on each new album.
I'm not the biggest fan of the Tony Martin period, but I consider Cross Purposes to be the era's highlight. Geezer Butler's presence and playing make a big difference. Nobody seems to mention Virtual Death as a favorite, but it's tied with Cross of Thrones to me.
Saw the cross purposes tour, BOSTON Massachusetts, ORPHEUM, i think 🤔 1994?? It was a "blizzard" , my buddy in college drove a bronco II, bottle of jack and plenty of weed. Motorhead opened. What a show. Iommi and butler were there
Thanks for that T shirt, Tony m...later, a neighbour robbed it from my washing line! Big time pissed off! I was! That was 1993! When you played the Olympia, Dublin with Cozy Powell and Glen Hughes on bass!
I heart Bill Ward, Completely forgot that he joined them for the South American leg of the tour. Idk why but I may have a bootleg of that somewhere. Just completely frickin awesome. He is on my list for people I would love to have at my dinner party. "It's Alright" is an awesome song off of the Technical Ecstasy album...first official one song by Bill and I believe the first single off of that joint. Cheers, -a.?/MCD
2:10 "For the last shows of what he's calling his final tour" I almost spit out my coffee 😂lmao Ozzy continued touring for another thirty years and every tour was called the final tour.
@@EdwardBaggettEdtrader Ronnie Dio didn’t buy it, and it seems that Tony & Geezer were led to believe that a reunion was happening (burning their bridge with Dio). They knew their financial interest laid with Dio, they would have hung onto it if they had realized they were being played.
@@EdwardBaggettEdtrader Yup, Bill was the one who wanted to play at those shows. Quote: Tony's autobiography page 295: ''The final European show tunred out to be Bobby's last gig because the tour ended and we only had a couple of shows left in South America and I was talking to Bill and I said: We're doing South America next! He went: I'd love to play South America! Oh? You want to do it with us then? Yes!'' And that was it lol plus Tony mentioned he struggled a bit to get right some songs like Headless Cross so they mostly ended up playing Sabbath old stuff which Bill already knew.
Caught this tour in New Orleans. Motorhead and Morbid Angel were the support bands. I never got into the Tony Martin stuff as it to me was just dull with no real hook to the songs. Was dlad to see Geezer back and the older material was great!
@@EdwardBaggettEdtrader they tried coming to St Louis but couldn't sell any tickets I know they were more popular in the Northeast than in the rest of the country
He mainly hated that it was called Black Sabbath, but at that point, with Iommi, Butler, Nicholls and the voice of three of the previous four Sabbath albums why WOULDN'T it be called Black Sabbath? This was nothing like the "Seventh Star" lineup (which I loved as well).
@@EdwardBaggettEdtrader His wife Gloria didn't like Geezer Butler's bass guitar mix on that album. Geezer himself stated that he thought it was the best Sabbath to date when it was released.
They just should have called themselves something different back then I think they would have sold more albums than done better if they would have changed the name
I couldn’t follow their multiple changes of personnel. I never gave any of these off lineups much of a listen. Only the main singers Ozzy Dio and Gillian! For me the other lineups would like generic 80s rock. Thy lost their way at those times
Buttler and MARTIN created very good songs for the CROSS PURPOSES album, the tracks were better and more straight to the point, DEHUMANIZER had boring melodies mostly it was but no catchy enough, i love CP a lot more.
I would have definitely gone to see Black Sabbath’s final tour. However, there’s no Black Sabbath without Bill Ward playing drums and I wasn’t about to spend over 400 bucks to see and hear Ozzy’s studio drummer. No disrespect to Tommy Clufetos but Tommy is a heavy metal drummer and Bill Ward is not a heavy metal drummer. Tommy Clufetos doesn’t sound like Bill Ward at all, not in the slightest!
The Eternal Idol (1987), Headless Cross (1989) and Tyr (1990) are Black Sabbath's very best albums, but Cross Purposes (1994) was such a disappointment with just one great song (Cross of Thorns). And Forbidden (1995) had that same raw and muddy sound just like Dehumanizer (1992), both very weak albums despite two fabulous vocalists.
I cant stop listening to Tony Martin! Congratylations Tony. You are the BEST. Out of this world!
CROSS PURPOSES Is one of the most criminally underated albums of all time!!!! Songs like : CROSS OF THORNS, DYING FOR LOVE, IMMACULATE DECEPTION,THE HAND THAT ROCKS THE CRADLE and BACK TO EDEN are Masterpieces!!!! IOMMI IS A GENIUS!!! I Love the Tony Martin era!!!!
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Whole-heartedly agree my friend
Totally agree!
Why does everyone leave out psychophobia when they mention their favorite Tony Martin tracks? It's a freaking banger
My favorite on Cross Purposes. Very vintage Sabbath.
100% killer tune. This is my favorite album from the TM era and Psychophobia might be my favorite song
Oh wow!! Cross Purposes is my favourite Black Sabbath album (with *any* singer), yet Psychophobia is the the only song I dislike on that record.
It's like Waiting For Darkness is one of my top 25 Ozzy Osbourne songs. But it never gets any mention.
Tony Martin: what a great guy!
Great documentary. Cross Purposes was my first Black Sabbath album I got as new. I also bought the live CD and the VHS. I watched it over and over. Tony Martin is an awesome singer.
Thank you.
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How old r. U. 12
@@SeanSimps3-vi5ls
Lol, stop, be nice now. Lol, it’s always a good thing when our youth likes guitar driven music. Rather than this Cicada tapping drum thing and their robotic autotune vocals, hip-hop trash! That’s one weirdest things that I can’t figure out. Why do they have that Cicada sound in every fucking lousy song?
Tony Martin is a phenomenal talent who has never quite received his just dues tbh.
Sabbath had so many different line ups, any documentary about these line ups is worth its weight in gold.
Thank you so much for making this documentary.
You are very welcome
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Forgot how much I love this album. Still have the live CD/VHS. Probably the only reason I still have a VCR, actually.
www.barnesandnoble.com/w/black-sabbath-crosses-and-thorns-the-tony-martin-years-edward-wilson-baggett/1121652184 I wrote a book on the Tony Martin years of the band, if you are interested
Truly awesome documentary! I remember this time period. I remember buying that album and the live cd/VHS concert video. Some of these interviews in this documentary though are killer to see since they were never aired in the U.S. till You Tube came out unless they were on a bootleg video. I love seeing this. I love every era of Sabbath!
The best Tony Martin era album for me. Most of the tracks are fantastic.
6:35 - Technical Ecstasy and Never Say Die have a lot of keyboards on them. It started with Paranoid (1970) and from there, there was more and more on each new album.
Long live black Sabbath
Thank you for highlighting psychophobia such a great song!👍😁
Good doc!
I hadn't listened to C.P. in a while. It made me revisit the album. Very good.
Thank you for the kind words. Now crank up the album!
Congrats for this amazing documentary. You don't miss anything.
Thank you for watching, it means a lot
Love that album
Outstanding documentary on a fabulous , often overlooked album.
Many thanks for posting 🤟
Thank you so much. If you haven't, I have documentaries on Headless Cross and Forbidden.
This album kicks ass!
To me Geezer is a REALLY big part of the Sabbath sound, he really brings something special.
I'm not the biggest fan of the Tony Martin period, but I consider Cross Purposes to be the era's highlight. Geezer Butler's presence and playing make a big difference. Nobody seems to mention Virtual Death as a favorite, but it's tied with Cross of Thrones to me.
I like that song too. I would have liked the guitar to had been a tadbit heavier
Amazing seeing and listening to this stuff.
Nice documentary…😊
Amazing material! Thx!🤘
Saw the cross purposes tour, BOSTON Massachusetts, ORPHEUM, i think 🤔 1994?? It was a "blizzard" , my buddy in college drove a bronco II, bottle of jack and plenty of weed. Motorhead opened. What a show. Iommi and butler were there
Genial album.
Great album
My favorite from this 💿is dying for love ❤️ & cross of thotns🤘
Great stuff. The N.I.B -album track conflict with Iommi and Geezer was news to me.
To be fair, Geezer really hasn't said much about his side of that issue.
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Great singer.
this was great thanks. Please do one about their best album Forbidden
Working on it now!!!!
amazing news!@@EdwardBaggettEdtrader
I like all their albums but Forbidden is commonly considered their weakest effort
Worst album!
Correction : The only bad album!
Thanks for that T shirt, Tony m...later, a neighbour robbed it from my washing line! Big time pissed off! I was! That was 1993! When you played the Olympia, Dublin with Cozy Powell and Glen Hughes on bass!
I heart Bill Ward, Completely forgot that he joined them for the South American leg of the tour. Idk why but I may have a bootleg of that somewhere. Just completely frickin awesome. He is on my list for people I would love to have at my dinner party. "It's Alright" is an awesome song off of the Technical Ecstasy album...first official one song by Bill and I believe the first single off of that joint.
Cheers,
-a.?/MCD
2:10 "For the last shows of what he's calling his final tour"
I almost spit out my coffee 😂lmao
Ozzy continued touring for another thirty years and every tour was called the final tour.
The story goes that a doctor told Ozzy that he had MS. But the doctor was wrong
That was a sleeze bag move by the ozzy camp.
@@EdwardBaggettEdtrader " "
The Ozzy camp must have had a chat with Gene $immons
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Ronnie Dio didn’t buy it, and it seems that Tony & Geezer were led to believe that a reunion was happening (burning their bridge with Dio). They knew their financial interest laid with Dio, they would have hung onto it if they had realized they were being played.
10/10!!💖
Awesome! Cheers!!
Thank you
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Headless Cross, Cross Purposes and Forbidden were the three albums I started Sabbath's journey.
I love these albums.
I have documentaries on all three on my channel!
So interesting Bill Ward rejoined the band for the South American leg of the tour I never knew
Lots of people didn't know this. Don't feel bad lol.
I think it was because the drummer couldn't make it because he was sick
@@mikekeeler6362 He didn't have a contract extension, as those dates were added late. His manger wanted too much money.
@@EdwardBaggettEdtrader Didn't Bill want to come back for those few shows? Shoulda check it out Tony's autobiography if he addressed this issue tho.
@@EdwardBaggettEdtrader Yup, Bill was the one who wanted to play at those shows. Quote: Tony's autobiography page 295: ''The final European show tunred out to be Bobby's last gig because the tour ended and we only had a couple of shows left in South America and I was talking to Bill and I said: We're doing South America next!
He went: I'd love to play South America!
Oh? You want to do it with us then?
Yes!'' And that was it lol plus Tony mentioned he struggled a bit to get right some songs like Headless Cross so they mostly ended up playing Sabbath old stuff which Bill already knew.
Love the colored hair that girl has
Sorry Tony, 1:01
m! I ment Niel Murray! With respect to Glenn Hughes !😁
sweet
Caught this tour in New Orleans. Motorhead and Morbid Angel were the support bands. I never got into the Tony Martin stuff as it to me was just dull with no real hook to the songs. Was dlad to see Geezer back and the older material was great!
Sabocrisy!
Forbidden coming soon?
First thing next week.
And they didn't or the United States on the tear album
Correct. I covered that in my TYR album documentary on my channel.
@@EdwardBaggettEdtrader in fact I don't think they ever came to St Louis during the Tony Martin era albums
@@mikekeeler6362 the last time Sabbath was in Arkansas was the Born Again your. And I believe you are 200% correct on St. Louis during the TM era.
@@EdwardBaggettEdtrader they tried coming to St Louis but couldn't sell any tickets I know they were more popular in the Northeast than in the rest of the country
@@mikekeeler6362 HI Mike check out the new song Deconstruction from the Gibson band featuring Tony Iommi and Serg Tarkanian on Gibson TV 📺 cheers 🍻
Geezer hated this album
His opinion switches back and forth.
He mainly hated that it was called Black Sabbath, but at that point, with Iommi, Butler, Nicholls and the voice of three of the previous four Sabbath albums why WOULDN'T it be called Black Sabbath? This was nothing like the "Seventh Star" lineup (which I loved as well).
@@EdwardBaggettEdtrader His wife Gloria didn't like Geezer Butler's bass guitar mix on that album. Geezer himself stated that he thought it was the best Sabbath to date when it was released.
yes he did
@@richardhincemon
They just should have called themselves something different back then I think they would have sold more albums than done better if they would have changed the name
I couldn’t follow their multiple changes of personnel. I never gave any of these off lineups much of a listen. Only the main singers Ozzy Dio and Gillian! For me the other lineups would like generic 80s rock. Thy lost their way at those times
GILLAN
I agree with you I couldn't take all of the lineup changes they should have called themselves something different
Buttler and MARTIN created very good songs for the CROSS PURPOSES album, the tracks were better and more straight to the point, DEHUMANIZER had boring melodies mostly it was but no catchy enough, i love CP a lot more.
I would have definitely gone to see Black Sabbath’s final tour. However, there’s no Black Sabbath without Bill Ward playing drums and I wasn’t about to spend over 400 bucks to see and hear Ozzy’s studio drummer. No disrespect to Tommy Clufetos but Tommy is a heavy metal drummer and Bill Ward is not a heavy metal drummer. Tommy Clufetos doesn’t sound like Bill Ward at all, not in the slightest!
Tony is so drunk
The Eternal Idol (1987), Headless Cross (1989) and Tyr (1990) are Black Sabbath's very best albums, but Cross Purposes (1994) was such a disappointment with just one great song (Cross of Thorns).
And Forbidden (1995) had that same raw and muddy sound just like Dehumanizer (1992), both very weak albums despite two fabulous vocalists.
Calling Dehumanizer a weak album is quite the take! 😮 Top 3 Sabbath album for me, along with H&H and Mob Rules
Should of went with a different drummer for cross purpose album Bobby sucks