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I find interesting how they changed the way Koh steals faces. Instead of keeping the original where he steals the faces of those who express emotions, he becomes an actual predator that "feeds" on his preys by removing their faces and making them lost forever due to the loss of their individuality. It actually makes him even creepier and scarrier than the original. Not to mention that the live-action gives him also history with other Avatars besides Kuruk.
I like how in this version, they really don’t shy away from just how brutal, violent, cruel and unforgiving the world of Avatar can be, and also how psychologically draining and traumatizing 100 years of war can be on people, and how the decisions of older generations can impact the younger generations and cause intergenerational trauma, and also the burdens that the younger generations have that the older generations place on them. For example, Katara has very clear PTSD from witnessing her mother get graphically burned in front of her when she was a kid, and her bending was quite compromised as a result of this trauma. Sokka was forced to grow up fast and become an adult far more quickly than he wanted to because his dad is gone and he feels a lot of pressure wanting to be the best warrior and brother there is to live up to his dad’s expectations. He doesn’t want to lose his baby sister to the Fire Nation, which is why he is understandably reluctant to accompany Aang with saving the world. Aang has to deal with the psychological impacts of finding out not only that he is the Avatar, but also the painful reality that he is the last of his kind. Zuko and Azula are pressured (groomed even) by their dad to compete with each other for his love-and it’s shown that Ozai doesn’t really have a favorite. Azula is shown to be driven to the breaking point because of this, but unlike Zuko, no adults are coming out to help her, and it’s really heartbreaking and sad. The adults in the world of the show are shown to be understandably burnt out, cynical, exhausted and weary after 100 years of war, and many have lost hope that things will get better. No one is doing anything to make the situation better-and it only encourages more division and violence, including with the juvenile domestic terrorists planning to blow up the temple as a means of getting back at the Fire Nation-nevermind that they will kill many innocent civilians in the process. Iroh also has to deal with the psychological impacts of his decisions when he is confronted by an Earth soldier over his actions that led to the death of his 19 year old brother. No one is safe from the impacts of war in this world, not even the animals.
Live action creators didn't want to copy paste the animated series as it is and few of the plot changes made by them are pretty good and welcoming as well. I did enjoy watching many of the changes (like Azula and Sozin's intro) as they offered different and fresh perspectives. But it has its own demerits as well: 1) Characterisation is something that was extra ordinary in the OG series (Aang was goofy yet wise and brave but here he is shown to be always frightened and somewhat coward, Katara was passionate, strong willed but here she almost carried the same expression throughout and why on Earth did they tone down Sokka's sarcasm. He was such a lively guy.) Honestly actors playing main characters seriously needs to improve especially Aang and Katara. (PS: Maria Zhang’s acting stood out for me as she portrayed her interest in Sokka quite perfectly. Actors playing Zuko, Iroh and Ozai acted brilliantly as well.) 2) And why is the casting overloaded with Chinese/South east asian origin actors? The main theme of the original series was peace and harmony between extremely diverse nations. Probably this is why the original creators left this project sighting creative differences. 3) The OG creators had excluded visual references of the genocide against air nomads for a purpose as it was meant to be a kids show. But in netflix without such restrictions they could have explored it much deeper and it would have been fresh for us as well. I was expecting to see more of Aang's past and the wiping out of air nomads. The genocide portion could have been longer considering the effort they had put to show it visually. At least 1 episode dedicated for it would have given ample time for the buildup. However it lasted only for 25 odd minutes so it felt rushed to me. 4) There is no suspense at all in the writing. Everything was just direct and linear. 5) This has very less humour than the animated one. Comparison with original is inevitable as the bar is set so high that it's very difficult to match those standards. So considering the above mentioned issues, the OG stands miles ahead than this live action at least for me and I wouldn't agree with anyone calling this as better than the original itself..
About number 2, the cartoon nations are based on these ethnicities.. Water tribes are innuit Fire nation is japanese Earth kingdom is middle-east-ish (Omashu)/ Chinese (Ba Sing Se) Air nomads are tibetan And in the show it's very clear they took those into consideration while casting each nation characters
@@fernandoviriato4652 there was no such compulsion. I would have loved to see a mix of white, brown and black race people along with different nations too.
@@kshreyaskashyap3543 I understand this point of view.. I would love something like this too. But the show just honored the cartoon ethnicities inspiration, probably because of the backlash of the movie-we-shall-not-name If you wanna check the facts about ethnicities in the cartoon, anywhere talking about the movie says how the only asian are the villains, but the cartoon every nation is based on Asia. I think the creators based a lot of their spiritual mythology on only asian cultures The architecture and clothing are the biggest clue to each nation being very different asian cultures in the animation. Here they chose to go even further and cast middle eastern for Omashu, Japanese for fire nation, and the innuit for the water tribes (there was the thing with Sokka's actor even, he's from a different tribe he said he was, so ppl though he lied about being innuit at all) Again, I would love even more diversity with African cultures too... But the show is giving the asian teachings only, it wouldn't fit the vibe for this storyline in my opinion, nor the character names... All characters have asian names. All the texts in the cartoon are in either Chinese or Japanese (don't remember which right now) So it wouldn't make sense to change the ethnicities when the producers are trying to keep the same asian vibe from the cartoon
I kind of cant wait to see season 2 n 3. First season was great, obviously there were issues here and there but overall it was good. The biggest problem was prolly pacing and some writing decisions but considering everything Im sure season 2 will fix that. Season 1 had 20 completely different stories in 20 episodes. It's nearly impossible to condense all of that (especially if they are bringing stuff from further seasons) in just 8 episodes. Like you cant just teleport from A to B. It all has to be smooth which takes time. Season 2 on the other hand yes, it's also 20 episodes but the story is more cohesive. Basically s2 can start with leaving north, finding toph then losing appa and straight up Ba Sing Se. Those 4 main plots can be easily done in 8 episodes unlike 20 plots from s1. That way they have way more time for character development and it all doesnt have to be that rushed.
I wouldn't call this toxic masculinity. Many parents are disappointed when their parents don't meet their expectations. I think the difference here is that Sokka sexism from the cartoon is both equally a learning experience for him, and played for laughs. Also, I think there are many reasons Sokka wouldn't have those attitudes in reality, not in the least that many of the kids that have to help defend the village would have to be girls. He'd have to be surrounded by women of the village helping him get things done. When I think about what it would mean to have all the fit adult men leave, I can't imagine he wouldn't have been shown up by now. Plus, that Gran gran makes me doubt she'd let him get away with anything.
I agree, I enjoyed this episode a lot more than the last two and I think you guys are going to enjoy the rest of the season because episode 6 is pretty great as well!
It's hard for me to comment on this episode since it's been awhile since I watched the cartoon completely so I don't remember koh. Regardless I thought the design and voice of koh in this show were both very good and the episode overall was solid for me. I will also say June's actress did a phenomenal job as well. Overall this was a solid episode for me even if I don't remember much of how these events went down in the cartoon although that's probably just due to the fact I need to rewatch it again.
I agree it does kind of feel like they were trying to get a wide target audience. Which makes the writing a little too on the head and repeating flashbacks so the younger audience isn’t crazy traumatised or missing key beats, but being a lot darker to please the older audience. For me the good stuff outshines the bad. For me the cartoon got better each season and what made it amazing was how it all tied together. My only concern is Netflix have a reputation for ruining their shows so I fear it might get progressively worse than better.
I never noticed before but now I do wonder where Momo be sometimes, and Appa too, but another banger reaction. I like scary movies and shows so this episode was a 10 out of 10 for me
There is a lot that is good with this show, yet its overshadowed by everything that is so wrong with it. Unfortnately this episode has proven to me they'd rather do their own thing. I don't care if they add extra information/backstory, but stop messing with existing characters. Stop bringing them into episodes where they don't belong.
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I find interesting how they changed the way Koh steals faces. Instead of keeping the original where he steals the faces of those who express emotions, he becomes an actual predator that "feeds" on his preys by removing their faces and making them lost forever due to the loss of their individuality. It actually makes him even creepier and scarrier than the original. Not to mention that the live-action gives him also history with other Avatars besides Kuruk.
I like how in this version, they really don’t shy away from just how brutal, violent, cruel and unforgiving the world of Avatar can be, and also how psychologically draining and traumatizing 100 years of war can be on people, and how the decisions of older generations can impact the younger generations and cause intergenerational trauma, and also the burdens that the younger generations have that the older generations place on them.
For example, Katara has very clear PTSD from witnessing her mother get graphically burned in front of her when she was a kid, and her bending was quite compromised as a result of this trauma. Sokka was forced to grow up fast and become an adult far more quickly than he wanted to because his dad is gone and he feels a lot of pressure wanting to be the best warrior and brother there is to live up to his dad’s expectations. He doesn’t want to lose his baby sister to the Fire Nation, which is why he is understandably reluctant to accompany Aang with saving the world. Aang has to deal with the psychological impacts of finding out not only that he is the Avatar, but also the painful reality that he is the last of his kind. Zuko and Azula are pressured (groomed even) by their dad to compete with each other for his love-and it’s shown that Ozai doesn’t really have a favorite. Azula is shown to be driven to the breaking point because of this, but unlike Zuko, no adults are coming out to help her, and it’s really heartbreaking and sad.
The adults in the world of the show are shown to be understandably burnt out, cynical, exhausted and weary after 100 years of war, and many have lost hope that things will get better. No one is doing anything to make the situation better-and it only encourages more division and violence, including with the juvenile domestic terrorists planning to blow up the temple as a means of getting back at the Fire Nation-nevermind that they will kill many innocent civilians in the process.
Iroh also has to deal with the psychological impacts of his decisions when he is confronted by an Earth soldier over his actions that led to the death of his 19 year old brother.
No one is safe from the impacts of war in this world, not even the animals.
Katara is precious, we must protect her at all cost!
TBH I think Katara can protect herself. She is a badass!!!
Live action creators didn't want to copy paste the animated series as it is and few of the plot changes made by them are pretty good and welcoming as well. I did enjoy watching many of the changes (like Azula and Sozin's intro) as they offered different and fresh perspectives.
But it has its own demerits as well:
1) Characterisation is something that was extra ordinary in the OG series (Aang was goofy yet wise and brave but here he is shown to be always frightened and somewhat coward, Katara was passionate, strong willed but here she almost carried the same expression throughout and why on Earth did they tone down Sokka's sarcasm. He was such a lively guy.) Honestly actors playing main characters seriously needs to improve especially Aang and Katara. (PS: Maria Zhang’s acting stood out for me as she portrayed her interest in Sokka quite perfectly. Actors playing Zuko, Iroh and Ozai acted brilliantly as well.)
2) And why is the casting overloaded with Chinese/South east asian origin actors? The main theme of the original series was peace and harmony between extremely diverse nations. Probably this is why the original creators left this project sighting creative differences.
3) The OG creators had excluded visual references of the genocide against air nomads for a purpose as it was meant to be a kids show. But in netflix without such restrictions they could have explored it much deeper and it would have been fresh for us as well. I was expecting to see more of Aang's past and the wiping out of air nomads. The genocide portion could have been longer considering the effort they had put to show it visually. At least 1 episode dedicated for it would have given ample time for the buildup. However it lasted only for 25 odd minutes so it felt rushed to me.
4) There is no suspense at all in the writing. Everything was just direct and linear.
5) This has very less humour than the animated one.
Comparison with original is inevitable as the bar is set so high that it's very difficult to match those standards. So considering the above mentioned issues, the OG stands miles ahead than this live action at least for me and I wouldn't agree with anyone calling this as better than the original itself..
Well said
About number 2, the cartoon nations are based on these ethnicities..
Water tribes are innuit
Fire nation is japanese
Earth kingdom is middle-east-ish (Omashu)/ Chinese (Ba Sing Se)
Air nomads are tibetan
And in the show it's very clear they took those into consideration while casting each nation characters
@@fernandoviriato4652 there was no such compulsion. I would have loved to see a mix of white, brown and black race people along with different nations too.
@@kshreyaskashyap3543 I understand this point of view.. I would love something like this too.
But the show just honored the cartoon ethnicities inspiration, probably because of the backlash of the movie-we-shall-not-name
If you wanna check the facts about ethnicities in the cartoon, anywhere talking about the movie says how the only asian are the villains, but the cartoon every nation is based on Asia.
I think the creators based a lot of their spiritual mythology on only asian cultures
The architecture and clothing are the biggest clue to each nation being very different asian cultures in the animation.
Here they chose to go even further and cast middle eastern for Omashu, Japanese for fire nation, and the innuit for the water tribes (there was the thing with Sokka's actor even, he's from a different tribe he said he was, so ppl though he lied about being innuit at all)
Again, I would love even more diversity with African cultures too... But the show is giving the asian teachings only, it wouldn't fit the vibe for this storyline in my opinion, nor the character names... All characters have asian names. All the texts in the cartoon are in either Chinese or Japanese (don't remember which right now)
So it wouldn't make sense to change the ethnicities when the producers are trying to keep the same asian vibe from the cartoon
I kind of cant wait to see season 2 n 3. First season was great, obviously there were issues here and there but overall it was good. The biggest problem was prolly pacing and some writing decisions but considering everything Im sure season 2 will fix that.
Season 1 had 20 completely different stories in 20 episodes. It's nearly impossible to condense all of that (especially if they are bringing stuff from further seasons) in just 8 episodes. Like you cant just teleport from A to B. It all has to be smooth which takes time. Season 2 on the other hand yes, it's also 20 episodes but the story is more cohesive. Basically s2 can start with leaving north, finding toph then losing appa and straight up Ba Sing Se. Those 4 main plots can be easily done in 8 episodes unlike 20 plots from s1. That way they have way more time for character development and it all doesnt have to be that rushed.
Gordon is fantastic.
I looked it up, and you're right, George Takei was the voice, good catch!
I really enjoyed getting to flesh out Team Avatar in this episode. The stuff with Aang and Gyatso was great.
I wouldn't call this toxic masculinity. Many parents are disappointed when their parents don't meet their expectations. I think the difference here is that Sokka sexism from the cartoon is both equally a learning experience for him, and played for laughs. Also, I think there are many reasons Sokka wouldn't have those attitudes in reality, not in the least that many of the kids that have to help defend the village would have to be girls. He'd have to be surrounded by women of the village helping him get things done. When I think about what it would mean to have all the fit adult men leave, I can't imagine he wouldn't have been shown up by now. Plus, that Gran gran makes me doubt she'd let him get away with anything.
I agree, I enjoyed this episode a lot more than the last two and I think you guys are going to enjoy the rest of the season because episode 6 is pretty great as well!
That is exciting to hear! Bring on episode 6!!!
Hope you two are having an great and awesome day ❤
Thank you, you as well!
Love your reactions and speaking of Spirited Away maybe you can do a reaction to it.
It's hard for me to comment on this episode since it's been awhile since I watched the cartoon completely so I don't remember koh. Regardless I thought the design and voice of koh in this show were both very good and the episode overall was solid for me. I will also say June's actress did a phenomenal job as well. Overall this was a solid episode for me even if I don't remember much of how these events went down in the cartoon although that's probably just due to the fact I need to rewatch it again.
I agree it does kind of feel like they were trying to get a wide target audience. Which makes the writing a little too on the head and repeating flashbacks so the younger audience isn’t crazy traumatised or missing key beats, but being a lot darker to please the older audience.
For me the good stuff outshines the bad. For me the cartoon got better each season and what made it amazing was how it all tied together. My only concern is Netflix have a reputation for ruining their shows so I fear it might get progressively worse than better.
There is a lot of potential here and aI am excited At the possibility of a season 2. Hopefully they are able to focus more and tell their story.
Why. Why did they feel the need to include Wan shi tong in this episode. It limits the spirit’s influence in season 2.
Appa and Momo can't come because Netflix has to save cash for the finale.
I never noticed before but now I do wonder where Momo be sometimes, and Appa too, but another banger reaction. I like scary movies and shows so this episode was a 10 out of 10 for me
Momo is out there chillen 😂
I wish I could nd chillin with him too, lol
@@chadwickmale2998 same dude! I want him to bring me peaches!!
@@TheMontyVerse yeah also me and appa would sleep for hours
The sexist aspect was only in like 2 episodes total in the cartoon
I would say the sexism aspect of the water tribe was sprinkled all throughout season one tbh.
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Noice!
@@TheMontyVerse y’all should watch the live action Ben 10 movies
There is a lot that is good with this show, yet its overshadowed by everything that is so wrong with it. Unfortnately this episode has proven to me they'd rather do their own thing. I don't care if they add extra information/backstory, but stop messing with existing characters. Stop bringing them into episodes where they don't belong.