And the only question they debate is whether the bird that brings them have white or gray feathers. There is no deeper discussion about where babies come from.
@@ramadadiver7810 I am simply saying that Christians regard each other as heretics. If you're in a particular Christian sect, there is another that regards you as heretical. Is this not the case?
@@Skibbityboo0580 You are assuming that both sides are " Christian " in order to make the claim that " Christians consider eachother as heretics . See this is the problem. Defining. what something is actually matters
For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. 2 John 1:7
That means, according to allah we Trinitarians are the true followers of Jesus. Surah 3:55 allah said, “O Jesus! I will take you and raise you up to Myself. I will deliver you from those who disbelieve, and elevate your followers above the disbelievers until the Day of Judgment."
@@sentientglitch the Quran DOESN'T say the doctrine of the trinity is false, because it addresses something completely different that no christian in the world believes in.
@@lydiematumona6235that verse has nothing to do with the Trinity, the actual verse that addresses it is: “…So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, "Trinity"; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs.” - Quran 4:171
@@lydiematumona6235 the Quran says do not say 3. However Mary being referred to as a god is about something different. It’s not mentioning the trinity.
So one fake gospel dated to around yeat 1500 (that is 1400 years after any of the other books) and a latin copy of the bible written around 300AD (if we assume you just misspelled Sinaiticus). Please enlighten me how these soruces help your case. I am very curious if you checked these "sources" and how on earth you think they support Hijabs case.
@@RaymondTT That’s the problem. The “Bible” is a forgery at best. Which has so many versions & ongoing revision till this day. The books/gospel inside with so many parts omitted or not omitted. Each domination calling each other version of the bible as heretics. Christian scholarship is so poor that average person can’t tell the difference between 2 bible. In the debate, Hijab was simply asked if there was evidence about early Christians who are non-Trinitarian. He simply just answered him.
these ones are probably just ignorant and or misinformed. In my anecdotal experience a lot of Muslims are actually really nice to engage with. They tend to be pretty committed to truth, and they’re already open to spiritual things. They are very lost and not saved, don’t get me wrong, but I’ll take talking with a Muslim about this stuff over a standard atheist any day.
The idea of hell that we get in the New Testament nowhere found in Paul’s authentic letters but rather in the gospels and later texts, such as: the book of Revelation and the epistle of 2 Peter. It’s also nowhere found in the Hebrew Bible whatsoever in any way shape or form. The Hebrew Bible has a concept of a place called Sheol, in which every human being that ever dies and has died resides in. It is mainly described as a gloomy, shadowy and dark place, and is sometimes referred to as the “pit” or the “realm of the dead”. This idea can be found in texts like: the book of psalms, Job, Jonah, Isaiah, some passages in Ezekiel, a vague reference in 1 Kings and then in Jewish apocalyptic texts like Daniel and 1 Enoch. It’s important to note that those concepts of the afterlife in which is found in the Hebrew Bible, Jewish texts and is called Sheol, has developed into many other concepts and has had many ideas added to it over century’s as well as influences. For example: the idea of any punishment whatsoever in Sheol is only found in later Jewish apocalyptic texts like the book of Daniel in it’s very last passages, Isaiah also in it’s very last passages and then 1 Enoch. The text of one Enoch and Daniel are Jewish apocalyptic texts that were written in the 2nd temple period when the nation of Israel was under much oppression and influence from other oppressive nations. Which gave the need to come up with different ideas about the afterlife and add it (for comfort)..
@@izzuddinshah8168Ebionites are almost the opposite of Islam. Go worship your preacher, Mohammed Hijab. majority of the Ebionites rejected as heresies the orthodox Christian beliefs in Jesus' divinity, virgin birth and substitutionary atonement; and therefore maintained that Jesus was born the natural son of Joseph and Mary, sought to abolish animal sacrifices by prophetic proclamation, and died as a martyr in order to move all Israel to repentance.
@@izzuddinshah8168Barbara’s is form 14th century and a forgery. People think it’s real bc Erdogan will proclaim every few years that they found a 5th century version of it but it doesn’t exist. This has happened multiple times now
Muslim simply means the one that submits (to the will of God). The first Christians were indeed true followers of God and believers of monoteism which is the base belief of the abrahemic religions.
Can you please do a whole series on Mormons and Joseph Smith? There is a huge push from the Mormon church to first of all call themselves the ONLY restored and true church of Christ with the restored gospel but also for their church to be accepted as just another Christian denomination. Which their members fully fully believe they are Christians but also highly superior Christians who will be exalted above others, and become gods.
My humble request to all please read these books. 1. The Brother of Jesus and the lost teachings of Christianity by Prof.Jeffrey Butz . 2. Paul vs James the battle that shaped Christianity and changed the world by Dr.Barrie Wilson. 3. Parting of ways by Prof.James Dunn. 4. Unity and Diversity in The New Testament by Prof.James Dunn. 5. Paul and Jesus by Prof.James Tabor. 6. Jesus Dynasty by Prof.James Tabor. 7. How Jesus Became Christian by Dr.Barrie Wilson.
Ebionites sound like New Agers in so far as it relates to this idea of Christ descending upon Jesus as well as they becoming Christ it sounds a whole lot like the Christ consciousness that is spoken of today in New Age circles
I would say Islam has more in common with Nestorianism especially when you find out in the Hadith that Muhammad knew two Nestorian monks who went very influential to him. The two monks were named Bahira in Bosra and Waraqah ibn Nawfal.
The interactions with Waraqah Ibn Nawfal and Bahira are not sufficient answers to explain the unique nature of Islam. Unique in a modern sense, because historically the teachings of the Prophet PBUH are the closest to the faith of Abraham the monotheist PBUH.
Wow, ebionites. Deep cut. I was coincidentally just reading about them in regards to methods of dating the gosepl of John (ie, the ebionites seem to have accepted it, meaning it existed well before the ebionite split c. 140-150 AD)
As a Christian i have been failed by my countries politics who are working against my survival, i have been failed by the pope and the majority of the priests who have given up their vocational wows and slipped into a comfort zone. Today i feel bad for all the souls who have abandoned their faith for the 10 other options that have been placed before them to replace Christianity. Every other faith is thriving but we are being encouraged to lose our faith. This is the reality we live in. BE STRONG!! OUR LORD Is NEAR.
Ebionites were an early Jewish Christian sect that existed in the early centuries of Christianity. While beliefs varied among different Ebionite groups, some rejected the divinity of Jesus and did not believe in his crucifixion in the same way as mainstream Christianity. Instead, they believed Jesus to be a purely human prophet. However, it's essential to note that there were variations in beliefs among Ebionites, and not all held the same views on Jesus' crucifixion
Ever since realizing that James probably produced Ebionism, I've been amazed by just how insightful Luther was for wanted to remove his epistle from the bible. Same with Revelation, which we now know was likely written by John the Mystic, and which messes up the order of the Rule of Faith in the beginning of the book.
That's true, they didn't believe that he was divine. But they also denied the virgin birth, and thought that "the Christ" was a heavenly figure. But still they thought that Jesus resurrected.
This is untrue, the Ebionites practiced 'Adoptionism', in which Jesus Christ was a prophet until God 'adopted' Him and made Him God. This is stupid because God is eternal, and thusly using them as a 'gotchya' as a Muslim is as well.
@@hermanwooster8944a lot actually. The idea that Jesus wasn’t crucified but was someone took his place, the talking in the cradle, the making clay birds etc
"A majority of the Ebionites rejected as heresies the orthodox Christian beliefs in Jesus' divinity, virgin birth and substitutionary atonement" the point he made was that they denied christs divinity, making them worshipping only the "father" aka god Muslim means a person who submits his will to god aka worshipping only one god making the ebionites "Muslim" even if they don't believe in most Muslim beliefs respectfully, don't take stuff out of context as it spreads unnecessary hate and kills civil discussion
The guy asked him, if there was any early christian group that did not contradict with the Quran and Hijab responded with the Ebionites. So, that is definitely false, since they believed in the resurrection (contradicting Quran), but also denied the vrigin birth (contradicting Quran). And they thought that the Christ was a heavenly figure (contradicting Quran).
The Bible is not a book about history or geology it is a book about theology and philosophy. The Bible never says that the universe or earth cannot be billions of years old.
Took me 10 minutes to google what the ebionites believed and says clear as day most rejected the divinity of Christ soooo the real question is what’s the truth
The Ebionites (in general) believed in Christ's divinity, but in a weird fucked up way. They assumed he was 'adopted' into Godhood, and that they may become 'Christs' themselves.
And when david wood said ebionites don't follow muslim jesus , he said i didn't say they were muslims. But in this video he literally said ebionites when the other guy asked who early christians didn't contradict quran. Lier
The doctrine of Trinity necessarily imports the complete equality in all respects of the three persons of the Trinity, for if there were inequality in any respect between them that would mean the superiority of one over the other two in which case the one, or the two, that lacked equality could not be God; the one who has superiority over the other two would be God of the universe, including the other two. Even a cursory study of the Gospels and the Epistles reveals that in respect of the attributes of which there is a record the Father is supreme and there is a disclaimer by Jesus of those attributes. For instance, God alone is the true source of honour, as is said: How Can you believe when you accept honour from one another, and care nothing for the honour that comes from him who alone is God. (John 5:44) This finds support in the Quran: Whoso seeks honour should realise that all honour belongs to God. (35:11 ) And, behold one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good things shall I do, that I may have eternal life? And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? There is none good but one, that is, God: But thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments (Matt. 19:16-17) Jesus disclaimed absolute power. When Zebedee asked him to grant that her two sons may sit, the one on the right hand, and the other on his left hand in his kingdom, the reply given by him was: To sit on my right hand, and on my left is not mine to give but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my Father. (Matt: 20:23) His knowledge was not co-extensive with knowledge of God concerning the day and hour of his second coming, after setting out certain signs, he said: But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the son, but the Father. (Mark 13:32) Apparently, not only Jesus lacked equality with God he also lacked equality with the third person in the Trinity, the Holy Ghost, as he said: Wherefore I say unto you, all manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. And whosoever speaketh against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoso ever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come. (Matt. 12:31-32)
If even Jesus was Muslim. Why? Cuz he worshipped God alone and not himself. He didn't even believe that he was son of God because this lie was not invented at the time of Jesus. Jesus was a Muslim prophet
@@BongBing11 you will see. Once you are asked on what authority you worshipped a man. Didn't our prophets always warn us to not worship anyone but Allah? No matter how tempted you are to worship other than Allah ? Why leave the path of Abraham and Jesus?
Jesus is God, and the reason is because he perfect sacrifice needed to pay the debt of humanity sins. Otherwise, a person who in Islam would pay the unbearable price of their sins, when Christians say Jesus is God that doesn't mean he higher being equal as the almighty no it means that God and Jesus are one just Jesus is not all of God power, it put like this everyone have a spirit, body and soul but are they equal no but they still apart of you.
@@MincraftEmail the trinity is not something that can be comprehended by simple human minds and thats ok. But the best way to explain it is God is 3 persons while being 1. They are all God and yet form different parts of the Godhead
@@spudders9034 so is the son equal to the father? Does the son depend on the father? Can the father exist without the son or can the son exist without the father? Please explain am just really confused by it. Saying it "doesn't make sense to humans" just doesn't sound good - Sincerely, mil
@@MincraftEmail i never said it doesnt make sense i said it cant be comprehended. And I am no theologian there are a lot of people much smarter than me that can explain the intricacies of the trinity. The Son is equal to the Father. The same way the Holy Spirit is equal to the Son and The Father. Jesus was dependent on God because while he is God, he is also human, and as humans we need to depend on God I honestly don't know the answer to your final question, as per my previous point there are people much more knowledge than me who will be able to articulate points better and give you better answers
@@spudders9034 sorry i got little confused about what you meant. can you link those people? thanks. (and kindly, don't talk about other religions until you have thoroughly studied them and your own religion have a good day, Night or evening m8.)
John 3:16 New International Version For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. Look up the shroud of Turin. It's impossible to remake and the closest they ever got to debunking it. They took a sample from the wrong piece of the cloth
The Book of the Holy Twelve talks about Yeshua never being Crucified... he actually gets married and has kids. & the Merovingian bloodline still walks the earth today 💫
Wrong if you actually learn what they believed they believed that the Christ was a separate being that entered Jesus and left him stop learning history through dumb people like Mimi hijab
![Summer Walker - Heart Of A Woman [Official Lyric Video]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/SFddctbZzw8/mqdefault.jpg)
Most historically accurate muslim argument:
Oh yes
😂😂😂😂
@@inukithesavage828🤪
Says the bloke who believes in a book claiming earthbis 5000 years old 😂😂😂
@TheSkepticalApologist geneological recods and genesis 1
Christianity is the Bridge between Western and Eastern philosophy and we should not be ashamed of it
Oh, I like this.
No.
@@elmajraz6019 Yes
Wdym Eastern philosophy? Like Buddhism, Confucianism, and Taoism?
@@Spartanoussure
Needed this video!! Thank you IP
At times your research amazes us !!!. Thank you for your hard work. We pray that God bless & uses you more
Muslims arguing history is like 2 elementary schoolers arguing where babies come from
And the only question they debate is whether the bird that brings them have white or gray feathers. There is no deeper discussion about where babies come from.
Hijab was right actually. This RUclipsr did not play the whole debate. Hijab gave a reference
Saint Barnabus : Gospel of Barnabas & Codex Sanaiticus
@@izzuddinshah8168its about what the ebionites believed though, not what one man wrote about it
Soo the Ebionites were heretics, got it.
Aren't all Christians heretics according to the other Christians?
@@Skibbityboo0580
Oh the no true Scotsman .
I believe a God exists and I believe Jesus is God ..I'm an atheist .
Tell me I'm not
@@ramadadiver7810 I am simply saying that Christians regard each other as heretics. If you're in a particular Christian sect, there is another that regards you as heretical.
Is this not the case?
@@Skibbityboo0580
You are assuming that both sides are " Christian " in order to make the claim that " Christians consider eachother as heretics .
See this is the problem. Defining. what something is actually matters
@@ramadadiver7810 They consider themselves Christian, no?
For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
2 John 1:7
That explains why allah in arabic looks like a serpent written.
they do believe he did though
Why do you blindly believe what Paul and his trinitarian followers said?
@@hodorthepolishpainter We aren’t blind if we are led by God’s Spirit.
@@homer1273Why do you accuse Paul of being pagan(like Muhammad) if Paul came from a Jewish background? What would spreading paganism profit him?
Mohammed Hijab can't help himself from lying.
It's called taqiyya, all Muslims do it when it comes to speaking theologically
That means, according to allah we Trinitarians are the true followers of Jesus.
Surah 3:55 allah said, “O Jesus! I will take you and raise you up to Myself. I will deliver you from those who disbelieve, and elevate your followers above the disbelievers until the Day of Judgment."
Exactly
The Quran says the trinity is a false doctrine. And so does logic, even Ip knows that 😂
@@sentientglitch the Quran DOESN'T say the doctrine of the trinity is false, because it addresses something completely different that no christian in the world believes in.
@@lydiematumona6235that verse has nothing to do with the Trinity, the actual verse that addresses it is:
“…So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, "Trinity"; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs.” - Quran 4:171
@@lydiematumona6235 the Quran says do not say 3. However Mary being referred to as a god is about something different. It’s not mentioning the trinity.
Muhammad Hijab being confidently wrong? I’m shocked.
He actually referenced his evidence mate. Watch the whole debate.
Gospel of Barnabus & Codex Sinaiticus.
Look it up yourself rather than watch reels.
So one fake gospel dated to around yeat 1500 (that is 1400 years after any of the other books) and a latin copy of the bible written around 300AD (if we assume you just misspelled Sinaiticus).
Please enlighten me how these soruces help your case.
I am very curious if you checked these "sources" and how on earth you think they support Hijabs case.
@@RaymondTT
That’s the problem. The “Bible” is a forgery at best. Which has so many versions & ongoing revision till this day. The books/gospel inside with so many parts omitted or not omitted. Each domination calling each other version of the bible as heretics.
Christian scholarship is so poor that average person can’t tell the difference between 2 bible.
In the debate, Hijab was simply asked if there was evidence about early Christians who are non-Trinitarian. He simply just answered him.
@@izzuddinshah8168The gospel of Barnabas is a forgery
@@izzuddinshah8168 You don't even know the Gospel of Barnabas is a forgery, plus the Ebionites contradicts the Qu'ran. So there's no truth there.
I thought lying is a sin within the islamic faith.
Taqqiya isn't a sin and that's what Muslims do.
In the Quran it states you shouldn't lie unless it will further Islam.
Wouldn't that violate the 9th commandment
@@loganmiller4669are you telling the truth
these ones are probably just ignorant and or misinformed. In my anecdotal experience a lot of Muslims are actually really nice to engage with. They tend to be pretty committed to truth, and they’re already open to spiritual things. They are very lost and not saved, don’t get me wrong, but I’ll take talking with a Muslim about this stuff over a standard atheist any day.
Mojab just got FINISHED
He gave academic references in debate. Watch the whole debate.
Reference:
Saint Barnabus in his Letter & Codex
@@izzuddinshah8168 What 💀😭
@@olekcholewa8171he gave you evidence and instead of addressing it you respond with emojis? That’s sad.
@@user-ib9of6dm5n What evidence? He typed some senselss dawah crap.
@@olekcholewa8171 He relayed an academic reference. Don’t embarrass yourself.
Hey IP can you do a video on the AfterLife( Sheol, Hell, Heaven. Abrahams Bosom).
He did already. Search for his videos in both heaven and hell
The idea of hell that we get in the New Testament nowhere found in Paul’s authentic letters but rather in the gospels and later texts, such as: the book of Revelation and the epistle of 2 Peter.
It’s also nowhere found in the Hebrew Bible whatsoever in any way shape or form. The Hebrew Bible has a concept of a place called Sheol, in which every human being that ever dies and has died resides in. It is mainly described as a gloomy, shadowy and dark place, and is sometimes referred to as the “pit” or the “realm of the dead”.
This idea can be found in texts like: the book of psalms, Job, Jonah, Isaiah, some passages in Ezekiel, a vague reference in 1 Kings and then in Jewish apocalyptic texts like Daniel and 1 Enoch.
It’s important to note that those concepts of the afterlife in which is found in the Hebrew Bible, Jewish texts and is called Sheol, has developed into many other concepts and has had many ideas added to it over century’s as well as influences.
For example: the idea of any punishment whatsoever in Sheol is only found in later Jewish apocalyptic texts like the book of Daniel in it’s very last passages, Isaiah also in it’s very last passages and then 1 Enoch. The text of one Enoch and Daniel are Jewish apocalyptic texts that were written in the 2nd temple period when the nation of Israel was under much oppression and influence from other oppressive nations. Which gave the need to come up with different ideas about the afterlife and add it (for comfort)..
Michael, I was wondering if there was a book that had a compilation of these historical records of the Church Fathers you quote so often?
You can check out the “Ante-Nicene Fathers” series. Also, a lot of the church fathers’ writings can be found online for free.
New Advent is a good website to use to find writings
It’s so funny to me how the guy reacting repeats Hijab saying Ebionites right away even though he has no idea who they are 💀
Hijab gave him academic references in the debate btw:
Codex Sinaiticus
Gospel of Barnabus
Letter of Barnabus
Um neither does IP 😂
@@izzuddinshah8168Ebionites are almost the opposite of Islam.
Go worship your preacher, Mohammed Hijab.
majority of the Ebionites rejected as heresies the orthodox Christian beliefs in Jesus' divinity, virgin birth and substitutionary atonement; and therefore maintained that Jesus was born the natural son of Joseph and Mary, sought to abolish animal sacrifices by prophetic proclamation, and died as a martyr in order to move all Israel to repentance.
The Gospel of Barnabas is an academic source? Don't make me laugh @@izzuddinshah8168
@@izzuddinshah8168Barbara’s is form 14th century and a forgery. People think it’s real bc Erdogan will proclaim every few years that they found a 5th century version of it but it doesn’t exist. This has happened multiple times now
If they're willing to atribute to islam every scientific or technological advancement of the past, why should this surprise us?
Every time I hear a Dawha guy talking about how Christians were Muslims I lose more and more neurons 💀💀💀
Muslim simply means the one that submits (to the will of God). The first Christians were indeed true followers of God and believers of monoteism which is the base belief of the abrahemic religions.
Should have added "YOU ARE FINISHED" at the end. 😂
Good old tick toc never fails to give you content my brother.
But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.
Galatians 3:11
You’re awesome, Mike!! God is Great and He’s always with us!!
Can you please do a whole series on Mormons and Joseph Smith? There is a huge push from the Mormon church to first of all call themselves the ONLY restored and true church of Christ with the restored gospel but also for their church to be accepted as just another Christian denomination. Which their members fully fully believe they are Christians but also highly superior Christians who will be exalted above others, and become gods.
That's like calling "Jehovah's witnesses" or "Mormons" Christians
My humble request to all please read these books.
1. The Brother of Jesus and the lost teachings of Christianity by Prof.Jeffrey Butz .
2. Paul vs James the battle that shaped Christianity and changed the world by Dr.Barrie Wilson.
3. Parting of ways by Prof.James Dunn.
4. Unity and Diversity in The New Testament by Prof.James Dunn.
5. Paul and Jesus by Prof.James Tabor.
6. Jesus Dynasty by Prof.James Tabor.
7. How Jesus Became Christian by Dr.Barrie Wilson.
Ebionites sound like New Agers in so far as it relates to this idea of Christ descending upon Jesus as well as they becoming Christ it sounds a whole lot like the Christ consciousness that is spoken of today in New Age circles
They kind of feel like proto Gnostics.
@@Guciomyea! But then again gnostics have tenets that feel very new age as well
Heretics saying that heretics are early heretics
Hey IP can you do a video on the Samaritan Pentateuch ? I recently heard about it and would like to learn more about it
I would say Islam has more in common with Nestorianism especially when you find out in the Hadith that Muhammad knew two Nestorian monks who went very influential to him. The two monks were named Bahira in Bosra and Waraqah ibn Nawfal.
The interactions with Waraqah Ibn Nawfal and Bahira are not sufficient answers to explain the unique nature of Islam. Unique in a modern sense, because historically the teachings of the Prophet PBUH are the closest to the faith of Abraham the monotheist PBUH.
Wow, ebionites. Deep cut. I was coincidentally just reading about them in regards to methods of dating the gosepl of John (ie, the ebionites seem to have accepted it, meaning it existed well before the ebionite split c. 140-150 AD)
Hijab always smugly smiles when he actually doesnt know what he's talking about
I watched that original video and I literally said out loud
Is this dude for real.
Everyone gave me weird looks in my house
Please do more on imam uthman
The lies Muslims spread about our faith are staggering!! They never stop lying!
By the sound of it they weren't early Christians either
they were.
@@hodorthepolishpainterwell if they denied Jesus being the Christ, then they aren't Christians, since Christians are the followers of Christ.
@@BRUDERHERZ they did follow Christ. they just don't believe the person of Jesus was the person of Christ
God bless
As a Christian i have been failed by my countries politics who are working against my survival, i have been failed by the pope and the majority of the priests who have given up their vocational wows and slipped into a comfort zone.
Today i feel bad for all the souls who have abandoned their faith for the 10 other options that have been placed before them to replace Christianity.
Every other faith is thriving but we are being encouraged to lose our faith.
This is the reality we live in. BE STRONG!! OUR LORD Is NEAR.
Ebionites were an early Jewish Christian sect that existed in the early centuries of Christianity. While beliefs varied among different Ebionite groups, some rejected the divinity of Jesus and did not believe in his crucifixion in the same way as mainstream Christianity. Instead, they believed Jesus to be a purely human prophet. However, it's essential to note that there were variations in beliefs among Ebionites, and not all held the same views on Jesus' crucifixion
Some belived and some not
Some belived and some not
Make a deeper videos on that plz
A simple example of why Islamic apologetics is just full of clowns 🤡
Ever since realizing that James probably produced Ebionism, I've been amazed by just how insightful Luther was for wanted to remove his epistle from the bible. Same with Revelation, which we now know was likely written by John the Mystic, and which messes up the order of the Rule of Faith in the beginning of the book.
Thank you so much sir I am from india proud to be Christian
Love this guy
It's always some dude that says "watch this" with such an incredibly smug look on his face. then shows off a video of complete nonsense.
with facial pubes ofc.
Could you set the text in color to make it more visible against the black and white background?
Ya Muhammad there is a huge liar full of pride. May he find true God and peace
These Muslims just gotta say a nice Quran verse instead of trying to debunk the Bible
Where do you find all this information? Genuinely asking because I want to read for myself to educate myself
Like lots of information about Christianity theology, history etc? Or the sources in the video?
Mojab thinks confidence is an argument. Unfortunately, he's got a big following who falls for it
The Ebionites didn't believe in Jesus as a divine being; they viewed him as a prophet only. Why didn't you mention that?
That's true, they didn't believe that he was divine. But they also denied the virgin birth, and thought that "the Christ" was a heavenly figure. But still they thought that Jesus resurrected.
This is untrue, the Ebionites practiced 'Adoptionism', in which Jesus Christ was a prophet until God 'adopted' Him and made Him God.
This is stupid because God is eternal, and thusly using them as a 'gotchya' as a Muslim is as well.
The main point is we don't have any scriptures from Ebionites.
It sounds like the Ebionites were just early gnostics
Islam borrows from gnosticism.
It seems so, but as far as I know, they weren't gnostics either, just a heretical group.I guess.
@@hermanwooster8944a lot actually. The idea that Jesus wasn’t crucified but was someone took his place, the talking in the cradle, the making clay birds etc
@@BRUDERHERZyea they do seem to differ a bit from the traditional Gnosticism
@@hermanwooster8944not true 😂
What do they use to try to say the Ebionites rejected the crucifixion?
So they were the original Mormons?
I only say this jokingly because of the "Becoming Christ" bit lol
God Bless you all 🙏
"A majority of the Ebionites rejected as heresies the orthodox Christian beliefs in Jesus' divinity, virgin birth and substitutionary atonement" the point he made was that they denied christs divinity, making them worshipping only the "father" aka god
Muslim means a person who submits his will to god aka worshipping only one god
making the ebionites "Muslim" even if they don't believe in most Muslim beliefs
respectfully, don't take stuff out of context as it spreads unnecessary hate and kills civil discussion
The guy asked him, if there was any early christian group that did not contradict with the Quran and Hijab responded with the Ebionites. So, that is definitely false, since they believed in the resurrection (contradicting Quran), but also denied the vrigin birth (contradicting Quran). And they thought that the Christ was a heavenly figure (contradicting Quran).
It seems lying is an Islamic virtue 🤔
Why is it always Mohammed Hijab?
There are two sects of Eboinites... Read chapter 3 complete of Eusebius and then Tell the Truth my friend 😊
one believed in virgin birth, one didn't, but the other differences still pull it away from islam. it is just adoptionism
Hey ip I have a question where dose billion of years fit into rhw bible there have been billion of year old artifacts found
The Bible is not a book about history or geology it is a book about theology and philosophy. The Bible never says that the universe or earth cannot be billions of years old.
@@t0p_phoneix939 that's true I'm trying my best to prove that the bible or the events in it wasn't 6 thousand years ago
Took me 10 minutes to google what the ebionites believed and says clear as day most rejected the divinity of Christ soooo the real question is what’s the truth
The Ebionites (in general) believed in Christ's divinity, but in a weird fucked up way. They assumed he was 'adopted' into Godhood, and that they may become 'Christs' themselves.
Can someone add this to the wiki article
They have to try so hard to justify their heresy.
Am sorry. But can you kindly explain the trinity to me?
- Sincerely, Mil
I dont see where muhammed says ebionites are early muslims? What are you talking about?
There is no way Muhammed Hijab would lie like that hahaha
This sounds similar to those Gnostic folks or do I got it all wrong?
Their beliefs definitely seem similar to those found in the Coptic Gospel of Philip (a gnostic text).
@@FollowersofTheShepherdthe gospel of philip is valentinian or proto-valentinian, not ebionite. they share similar believes due to common origins
@@hodorthepolishpainter I didn't say it was Ebonite
Where did u get these texts from??
And when david wood said ebionites don't follow muslim jesus , he said i didn't say they were muslims. But in this video he literally said ebionites when the other guy asked who early christians didn't contradict quran. Lier
The doctrine of Trinity necessarily imports the complete equality in all respects of the three persons of the Trinity, for if there were inequality in any respect between them that would mean the superiority of one over the other two in which case the one, or the two, that lacked equality could not be God; the one who has superiority over the other two would be God of the universe, including the other two. Even a cursory study of the Gospels and the Epistles reveals that in respect of the attributes of which there is a record the Father is supreme and there is a disclaimer by Jesus of those attributes.
For instance, God alone is the true source of honour, as is said:
How Can you believe when you accept honour from one another, and care nothing for the honour that comes from him who alone is God. (John 5:44)
This finds support in the Quran: Whoso seeks honour should realise that all honour belongs to God. (35:11 )
And, behold one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good things shall I do, that I may have eternal life? And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? There is none good but one, that is, God: But thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments (Matt. 19:16-17)
Jesus disclaimed absolute power. When Zebedee asked him to grant that her two sons may sit, the one on the right hand, and the other on his left hand in his kingdom, the reply given by him was:
To sit on my right hand, and on my left is not mine to give but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my Father. (Matt: 20:23)
His knowledge was not co-extensive with knowledge of God concerning the day and hour of his second coming, after setting out certain signs, he said:
But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the son, but the Father. (Mark 13:32)
Apparently, not only Jesus lacked equality with God he also lacked equality with the third person in the Trinity, the Holy Ghost, as he said:
Wherefore I say unto you, all manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. And whosoever speaketh against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoso ever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come. (Matt. 12:31-32)
Allah you Muslims ☪️ REPENT Jesus Christ is coming back very soon and accept Him as your Lord and saviour Now tomorrow may not come.
today they are called . mormons.
Muslims believing that god pulled a prank on all of humanity and faked the death of Jesus is hilarious😂
If you think that's how it went you are crazy
I would like a video on why many black people think they are the true Israelites, just genuinely curious
* some black people * let's not generalise
Many black people in America have a serious victim complex and desire to claim what they assume was stolen from them by "the white man".
If even Jesus was Muslim.
Why? Cuz he worshipped God alone and not himself. He didn't even believe that he was son of God because this lie was not invented at the time of Jesus.
Jesus was a Muslim prophet
Jesus Christ is God and Islam is false.
@@BongBing11 you will see. Once you are asked on what authority you worshipped a man. Didn't our prophets always warn us to not worship anyone but Allah? No matter how tempted you are to worship other than Allah ? Why leave the path of Abraham and Jesus?
@@user-gf3hf5ri8b Because Jesus Christ calls us to worship him.
@@BongBing11 he would never. He hasn't. He never will. You have read lies. You are no different than a Hindu because you take other gods beside God
Jesus is God, and the reason is because he perfect sacrifice needed to pay the debt of humanity sins. Otherwise, a person who in Islam would pay the unbearable price of their sins, when Christians say Jesus is God that doesn't mean he higher being equal as the almighty no it means that God and Jesus are one just Jesus is not all of God power, it put like this everyone have a spirit, body and soul but are they equal no but they still apart of you.
They aren’t men of faith, they just contend with followers of Jesus Christand the true faith.
I P : it's funny a minimalists Biblical Scholar is now imitating what you have been doing for a long time!
Typical ignorance of Mohammed Hijab 😂
Without lies Islam dies
what?
May Jesus bless all our journeys. ✝️💞✌🤟
They never accepted the crucifixion you all innovated it.
U have problem when we say they denied crucifixion.
Bunch of no brainers
They accepted crucifixion
There are documents 1900 year old proving it
In fact
They didn't accept virgin birth
Which contradicts your stand
@@WARLORDDOMHUH? Give me the
1900 year old document
Big win islam
6 win streak
☦️✝️❤️ always win 🏅
Without lies islam dies
Can you kindly explain the trinity to me?
@@MincraftEmail the trinity is not something that can be comprehended by simple human minds and thats ok. But the best way to explain it is God is 3 persons while being 1. They are all God and yet form different parts of the Godhead
@@spudders9034 so is the son equal to the father?
Does the son depend on the father?
Can the father exist without the son or can the son exist without the father?
Please explain am just really confused by it. Saying it "doesn't make sense to humans" just doesn't sound good
- Sincerely, mil
@@MincraftEmail i never said it doesnt make sense i said it cant be comprehended. And I am no theologian there are a lot of people much smarter than me that can explain the intricacies of the trinity.
The Son is equal to the Father. The same way the Holy Spirit is equal to the Son and The Father.
Jesus was dependent on God because while he is God, he is also human, and as humans we need to depend on God
I honestly don't know the answer to your final question, as per my previous point there are people much more knowledge than me who will be able to articulate points better and give you better answers
@@spudders9034 sorry i got little confused about what you meant.
can you link those people? thanks.
(and kindly, don't talk about other religions until you have thoroughly studied them and your own religion have a good day, Night or evening m8.)
No God but Allah and Jesus was one of his great messengers peace be upon them all
John 3:16
New International Version
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. Look up the shroud of Turin. It's impossible to remake and the closest they ever got to debunking it. They took a sample from the wrong piece of the cloth
Watch apostate Prophet
Jesus said :-(aramic)Hear o Israel our allah is one
Wow
As i hough all bad muslim arguments werd made
They come with more
The Book of the Holy Twelve talks about Yeshua never being Crucified... he actually gets married and has kids.
& the Merovingian bloodline still walks the earth today 💫
That's a fabricated text that has already been proven to be falls.
You're bad in the head, my friend.
W.
Ebionites seem more like Mormons lamo
Confused people and religion
Ol’ Dollar Store Dan, you’re seriously going to use the words of their opponents to try and validate your position???
This guys is full of cap! Lol
Mohammad potatojab
when is the next bible patch ?
R u Christian or a secular 😅
Who?
Very mormonic
Why do you never actually debate?
Weren't the nazerenes christians?
Like the jewish christians like the 12 apostles?
no one prior to Jesus' resurrection was a christian. they were either jewish, or on the path towards being a christian.
Be in mind, The ebionites did believe Jesus was the Jewish Messiah the Jewish Christ. The so called church fathers liked to exaggerate a bit
Wrong if you actually learn what they believed they believed that the Christ was a separate being that entered Jesus and left him stop learning history through dumb people like Mimi hijab
Its a different story when u face to face debate with mohammed hijab😂 keep believing that corrupted book
The truth is the truth 😂
@@BrotherInChristDK How is it true an God die? No right so how did he die on the cross?? lol
@@Jaliscodenyes, Jesus is God 🙏🙏
@@zagudivine1850 Then how did he die on the cross when it says in the bible god is immortal 😂😂
@@Jaliscoden
I am not a christian, but christiany doesn't say that the physical body of Jesus is God. Only his body has died
Gospel of Barnabas says otherwise js
Satire
Typical ignorant muslim, Gospel of Barnabas has been proven to be a forgery and was made in the 1500s
>Gospel of Barnabas in 2024
but it's a forgery. Everyone knows it's a forgery. There's no debate at all about that.
Can’t tell if this is real or satire, the Gospel of Barnabas is fake. It was written in the Middle Ages by Muslims.